Re: colors in tables
Hi Susan Looks like someone has been using custom ruling and shading, which is not recommended in this case (except for the left column). So, remove the custom ruling and shading and use the Table Designer to set the Shading, for example: - Heading and Footing Shading: Fill 100 % - Body Shading: Shade By Body Rows, First 1 Fill 30%; Next 1 Fill 30 % - Apply custom shading to the left column To remove custom ruling/shading: select all cells in the table and choose Table Custom Ruling and Shading Custom Cell Shading Fill: From Table, Color: From table. Tip: Buy Rick Quatro's Table Cleaner plugin for this type of work: http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm Kind regards -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FMKR 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, on Vista Enterprise on HP (Compaq) laptop. I do not have the full Acrobat 5.0 program, on this system. But, I could take the FMKR file to my own pc and use Acrobat 5.0 and then bring it back to this laptop. Question: I have a large (17pgs) table for my glossary. The rows are alternating colors - light and medium shade of the same color. However, the header top row and the left column - are a solid color. Now, we are adding and deleting some of these glossary entries. Is there a way to have the alternate row colors update automatically? I have already gone into the Table Designer and I am working with the shade settings, but not much luck yet. I inherited this table - I think the alternate coloring was done with copy / paste. Thanks, Sue ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Hi everyone, FM8, structured XML, DocBook 4.2 (I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer requires it). WinXP Pro 4 GB RAM 160 GB HDD We're trying to import an XML file into FM8 but FM crashes. The file includes 750 topics that are imported into an FM book as mini-chapter files. They will eventually become topics in RH via TCS. However, FM crashes at about 250 files (repeatable). Restarting FM and/or rebooting the system has no effect. We thought at first that there might be a limit on the number of chapters that can be added to a book. But the Adobe Tech Note at http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/310/310864.html says no, although there may be a practical limit that is dependent on RAM and disk space. TechNote Maximum Number of Files in an Adobe FrameMaker Book Ratings:0 FrameMaker does not limit the number of files you can place in a generated book. Adobe has tested placing several hundred files in a book without consequence. Though you can create a book of this size, generating or updating the book requires enough memory and disk space to open and save every file. I searched the net and the Adobe site but could not find any informatrion related to this problem. If anyone has any experience with this or knows of a tech note or other Adobe article that might provide an answer, I would really appreciate the help. Thanks lots. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems Santa Clara, CA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Garnier Garnier wrote: Hello Listers, Wanted to mention that: As suggested by one of the listeres, I removed all Adobe products from my machine including the registries. Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the installation. How do I resolve this? Garnier, Dov Isaacs of Adobe has frequently and adamantly advised that only ONE installation of Acrobat OR Reader OR Distiller should ever be put on a single PC. Here's a quotation from the archives: Although (very unfortunately), it is PHYSICALLY possible to have multiple versions of Adobe Acrobat concurrently installed, concurrent versions of Adobe Reader concurrently installed, or some combination of versions of both Acrobat and Reader installed, the truth is that the architecture of these programs and the underlying operating system services used by same really only fully supports installation of only one version of EITHER Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader on one system at one time [T]here are a tremendous number of problems reported to Adobe that are suddenly cleared up when the user's systems are scraped of all concurrent versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced by a single version of one or another. (Note that by Acrobat I mean any and all pieces of it including the Distiller, the AdobePDF PostScript printer driver instance, and the viewing program!) I suggest that you uninstall everything again, then reinstall Framemaker but do NOT allow it to install Distiller. Then install Acrobat (I assume you mean Acrobat Standard or Pro -- I don't know of a program called Acrobat Editor) and do NOT install Reader. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
In addition to Stuart's accurate assessment, you're really unlikely to get SaveAs in FM 7 working with a current version of Acrobat because the name and location of the PDF printer has changed over the years since FM 7 shipped. So if you install Acrobat 9 properly, FM 7 has no way of knowing the new location because it didn't exist when 7 shipped. The easiest fix is to install FM 7, install Acrobat 9, and use File Print to produce your PDFs. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stuart Rogerssrog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: Garnier Garnier wrote: Hello Listers, Wanted to mention that: As suggested by one of the listeres, I removed all Adobe products from my machine including the registries. Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the installation. How do I resolve this? Garnier, Dov Isaacs of Adobe has frequently and adamantly advised that only ONE installation of Acrobat OR Reader OR Distiller should ever be put on a single PC. Here's a quotation from the archives: Although (very unfortunately), it is PHYSICALLY possible to have multiple versions of Adobe Acrobat concurrently installed, concurrent versions of Adobe Reader concurrently installed, or some combination of versions of both Acrobat and Reader installed, the truth is that the architecture of these programs and the underlying operating system services used by same really only fully supports installation of only one version of EITHER Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader on one system at one time [T]here are a tremendous number of problems reported to Adobe that are suddenly cleared up when the user's systems are scraped of all concurrent versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced by a single version of one or another. (Note that by Acrobat I mean any and all pieces of it including the Distiller, the AdobePDF PostScript printer driver instance, and the viewing program!) I suggest that you uninstall everything again, then reinstall Framemaker but do NOT allow it to install Distiller. Then install Acrobat (I assume you mean Acrobat Standard or Pro -- I don't know of a program called Acrobat Editor) and do NOT install Reader. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: colors in tables
Hi Sue, The table was probably imported into FrameMaker from Word and so the alternating shading are considered overrides to the default table shading. Here is how to fix it: 1) Select the entire table. 2) Choose Table Custom Ruling and Shading 3) Uncheck the Custom Cell Ruling checkbox and check the Custom Cell Shading checkbox. 4) Choose From Table under both Fill and Color popup menus. 5) Click the Apply button. This will remove the overrides from the table. Now you can set the alternating shading in the Table Designer and it should work as you add and delete rows. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hi All, Using FMKR 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, on Vista Enterprise on HP (Compaq) laptop. I do not have the full Acrobat 5.0 program, on this system. But, I could take the FMKR file to my own pc and use Acrobat 5.0 and then bring it back to this laptop. Question: I have a large (17pgs) table for my glossary. The rows are alternating colors - light and medium shade of the same color. However, the header top row and the left column - are a solid color. Now, we are adding and deleting some of these glossary entries. Is there a way to have the alternate row colors update automatically? I have already gone into the Table Designer and I am working with the shade settings, but not much luck yet. I inherited this table - I think the alternate coloring was done with copy / paste. Thanks, Sue ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ... because, my experience with Save as PDF to Acrobat has been just fine over the years. I have used all versions of FM 6, 7, and 8 (for FM 9, evaluation only for a few weeks) with the various *similar* Acrobat generations available at those times (including FM 7.2 with Acrobat 8) and have not had any major difficulties with the Save as PDF from within FM. (Other than the issue with having to change the paragraph tag settings - one time for any given document - for the PDF generation back and forth a few times till I get the sequence right and prevent the now-expected FM crash. But that is a one-time frustration - albeit silly and aggravating and I wish Adobe would fix it - with any given document and any given version change of FM or Acrobat. After making the changes to the settings for a document, when using a new version of FM, the Save as PDF works perfectly for me from then on.) In fact, having tried both Save as PDF and Print to PDF (only a few times though), with Save as PDF I'd say I get better results, since it gives me the heading markers and window automatically ... which I was not able to figure out afterwards with Print to PDF, so I gave up on that fairly quickly. Is this perhaps a case of YMMV rather than a clear problem for *everybody*? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
I'm trying to add a draft watermark to our CHM output. Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in the CHM topics. A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Garnier Garnier wrote: Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the installation. How do I resolve this? By removing Distiller 5.0, as the Acrobat 9 installation program asked! (Actually, it should offer to remove it for you. I'm surprised that it didn't.) When you installed FM 7, installing Distiller 5 was _optional_. It's an option that should _only_ be exercised by people who don't intend to install the full version (Standard or Pro) of Acrobat. Since you apparently have Acrobat Pro, you should ABSOLUTELY NOT install the Distiller that came with FM 7. As a number of us have tried to make clear, multiple versions of Acrobat do _not_ coexist nicely. As Stuart pointed out, there is no such thing as Acrobat Editor. If you meant Acrobat Pro, it _includes_ Distiller. If you want to install and use Acrobat Pro (any version), you absolutely should _not_ have separate Distiller or Reader installations on your PC. That said, I'd take Dov Isaac's word for it that FM 7.0's Save As PDF won't work with the newer versions of Acrobat; FM 7.0 is pretty old. (FM 7.2, OTOH, works fine with Acrobat 7, which is when the printer instance changed, and thus may work with Acro 8 or 9). But that brings up another question. IIRC, you originally said you were switching from Distiller 5 to Acrobat Pro 9 in order to get the Enable Commenting feature. But in your response to the Adobe engineer, you said you'd been using Acro 8 for a year and did not encounter any problems. Acro 8 fully supports commenting (as does Acro 7). So I'm completely confused as to why you're upgrading from Acro 8 to Acro 9 and why the ancient Distiller 5 that was bundled with FM keeps re-entering the picture. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Diane, I'm making a WAG that either you're hitting a processing wall (the RAM/disk space you mentioned -- how much of the 160 is free?), that there's a network timeout at a certain point, or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file range that's causing an error. Can you convert #250 by itself, or divide the project so that you can test, maybe by thirds? Topics 1-250, 251-500, and so on? Art Can you play with the configuration at all Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Diane Gaskilldgcal...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi everyone, FM8, structured XML, DocBook 4.2 (I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer requires it). WinXP Pro 4 GB RAM 160 GB HDD We're trying to import an XML file into FM8 but FM crashes. The file includes 750 topics that are imported into an FM book as mini-chapter files. They will eventually become topics in RH via TCS. However, FM crashes at about 250 files (repeatable). Restarting FM and/or rebooting the system has no effect. We thought at first that there might be a limit on the number of chapters that can be added to a book. But the Adobe Tech Note at http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/310/310864.html says no, although there may be a practical limit that is dependent on RAM and disk space. TechNote Maximum Number of Files in an Adobe FrameMaker Book Ratings:0 FrameMaker does not limit the number of files you can place in a generated book. Adobe has tested placing several hundred files in a book without consequence. Though you can create a book of this size, generating or updating the book requires enough memory and disk space to open and save every file. I searched the net and the Adobe site but could not find any informatrion related to this problem. If anyone has any experience with this or knows of a tech note or other Adobe article that might provide an answer, I would really appreciate the help. Thanks lots. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems Santa Clara, CA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
(an update - also posting to Omsys list) When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: - if a single topic has a body background=draft.jpg markup, then in the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in the CSS file. - if no topics have a body background=draft.jpg markup, then the CHM does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? Jim Owens wrote: I'm trying to add a draft watermark to our CHM output. Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in the CHM topics. A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
Jim, Edit the .hhp file in a text editor, add draft.jpg to the files section, and then compile in HTML Help Workshop. Mike -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:51 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; fram...@omsys.com Subject: Re: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM (an update - also posting to Omsys list) When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: - if a single topic has a body background=draft.jpg markup, then in the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in the CSS file. - if no topics have a body background=draft.jpg markup, then the CHM does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? Jim Owens wrote: I'm trying to add a draft watermark to our CHM output. Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in the CHM topics. A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mike.feims...@acstechnologies.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acst echnologies.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:50:40 -0400, Jim Owens jow...@magma.ca wrote: When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: - if a single topic has a body background=draft.jpg markup, then in the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in the CSS file. - if no topics have a body background=draft.jpg markup, then the CHM does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? It's a Help Compiler feature, not a bug. ;-) The watermark only show up when you mention the graphic in a topic because otherwise the compiler doesn't know it's part of the project, and doesn't include it in the CHM. (The compiler can't parse the CSS to find it.) But when you do mention it, that overrides the CSS for that file. So *don't* mention it in any topic, but *do* include it by name in the [Files] section of the .hhp. Easy one. ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:40:36 -0400, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file range that's causing an error. Adding to Art's thought, have you tried validating the file, to see if there is a well-formedness error or other such problem from which Frame can't recover? I do suspect you're pushing some internal limit here. The 250 is suspiciously close to 255... the max value of a byte, a limit a careless programmer could have imposed unknowingly, possibly in EDD processing. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Hi Jeremy, Excellent question. Yes, we validated the file with Oxygen before importing it into FM. Here is the procedure we are using. 1. Validate the XML in the Oxygen editor 2. Drag and drop the Validated XML file to the work area of FrameMaker 8. The Use Structured Application dialog box appears. 3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) 4. An error message Validation of XML file failed. appears. We ignore the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box appears. 5.In the Save as type field, we select Book (*.book). Enter any file name and then click Save. Diane -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:40:36 -0400, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file range that's causing an error. Adding to Art's thought, have you tried validating the file, to see if there is a well-formedness error or other such problem from which Frame can't recover? I do suspect you're pushing some internal limit here. The 250 is suspiciously close to 255... the max value of a byte, a limit a careless programmer could have imposed unknowingly, possibly in EDD processing. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcal...@earthlink.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:28:23 -0700, Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.net wrote: 3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) 4. An error message Validation of XML file failed. appears. We ignore the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box appears. Then I'd say you've isolated it to a validation error introduced by the custom XSL. To check that, try using the DocBook EDD that comes out of the box with Frame, with no XSL. Any difference? -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Use of please in technical documentation and messages on screen
Verner, I write in Controlled English for translation. I would write: Wait while the program updates the results. Thus, you avoid the Please and the gerund (updating), the first of which is unnecessary and the second of which may not be translatable in many languages. Simple, direct, active voice statements are best. Words like carefully, slowly, etc., are also invitations to interpretation by the reader, which may not be the result you want. HTH. Tom -Original Message- From: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [mailto:verner.ander...@radiometer.dk] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:31 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Use of please in technical documentation and messages on screen Hi Once I learned that you shouln't use the word please in technical documentation - that it was like asking the reader to do you favor. Does this still hold true? Is it OK to have this message displayed on the screen of our user interface? We are updating the result list, please wait Best regards, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Logging FrameMaker book errors in a text file
For some reason, the XML exported from FrameMaker 8 does not recognize forced returns (Control-Enter). We've reported this as a bug, but Adobe has effectively ignored us and we've had no luck getting any type of workaround other than downgrading to FrameMaker 7. - Gordon --- On Sun, 6/28/09, Lynne A. Price lpr...@txstruct.com wrote: From: Lynne A. Price lpr...@txstruct.com Subject: RE: Logging FrameMaker book errors in a text file To: Gordon Furbush gfurb...@yahoo.com, framers@lists.frameusers.com, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 4:00 PM At 02:57 PM 6/22/2009, Gordon Furbush wrote: Due to a bug in FrameMaker 8 that improperly generates XML, our book build generates MIF files for all of the FM files. Gordon, What is the XML export bug? Could XSLT provide a workaround? --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.com http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Converting PDF to Word
Hi Framers, I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks -- useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.) I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive). Thanks! Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer Attenex, an F T I company lgalan...@attenex.com www.attenex.com Phone: 206-689-4438 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Crash on import PDF comments
WinXP Svc Pk 2 on PC with 1G RAM FrameMaker 9p230 Acrobat Professional 8.1.2 Crash scenario: 1. Create PDF using FM 9. (FileSave as PDF with Generate PDF for review only selected) 2. Edit PDF using Acrobat 8.1.2 and save with edit marks/comments. 3. Select Import PDF comments into FM. (Have selected with all files in book open and with no files in book open.) 4. Crash with message: Internal Error 9004, 6920492, 9676798, 0. FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit. Ran process with Task Manager open and have not seen memory or CPU usage hit maximum. I know my machine is woefully underpowered, and have requested an upgrade. But, I don't see anything that indicates that this is a hardware problem. Can anyone point me to a solution? Thanks in advance, Becky ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM9 Hierarchical book groups/folders not excluded from output in RH8
I have a book (unstructured FM) that uses some text insets in some of my chapters in order to reuse content. However, when I create help in RH8, sometimes a few of my cross-references in chapters with text insets aren't treated as links, but as plain text. I think to resolve this, I want to include the text insets as files in my book so they get updated when I update the book. So, I tried using both a group and a folder in the book to do this, and setting the group/folder to be excluded from output. The FM book updated beautifully, and the insets were correctly excluded from the TOC. But when I generate my WebHelp in RH8, the excluded inset topics are included in the TOC and are generated in a folder corresponding to the name of my FM book's group or folder (behavior seems identical for folder or group). As expected, the original link problem is resolved, but I don't want to add delete the excluded content from RH as a manual step every time we update the helps. Let me know if this is just another feature of the integration between RH and FM in TCS2, if it's an issue that's already been reported to Adobe, or if there is actually a way to make this work. Thanks, Shane ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Syd, I also continue to use Save As PDF with no problems for the exact reason you state (FM 7.2, Acrobat 8). When I went to Acrobat 8 (came with CS3), the View Generated PDF function didn't work, but I simply click the file in the Distiller window that pops up, and the pdf file opens with bookmarks, hyperlinks and security settings intact. For me, it's so simple that's its been a bit irritating that the process gets hammered so quickly by the list. But, since I've never had any problems, I can't offer any suggestions for why it doesn't work for others. It works for me, even with my IT dept. doing the installs, so I'm sure they didn't do anything special. Brian syed.hos...@aeris.net Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 07/06/2009 11:27 AM To Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com, Garnier Garnier garnier_framescr...@yahoo.co.in cc framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ... because, my experience with Save as PDF to Acrobat has been just fine over the years. I have used all versions of FM 6, 7, and 8 (for FM 9, evaluation only for a few weeks) with the various *similar* Acrobat generations available at those times (including FM 7.2 with Acrobat 8) and have not had any major difficulties with the Save as PDF from within FM. (Other than the issue with having to change the paragraph tag settings - one time for any given document - for the PDF generation back and forth a few times till I get the sequence right and prevent the now-expected FM crash. But that is a one-time frustration - albeit silly and aggravating and I wish Adobe would fix it - with any given document and any given version change of FM or Acrobat. After making the changes to the settings for a document, when using a new version of FM, the Save as PDF works perfectly for me from then on.) In fact, having tried both Save as PDF and Print to PDF (only a few times though), with Save as PDF I'd say I get better results, since it gives me the heading markers and window automatically ... which I was not able to figure out afterwards with Print to PDF, so I gave up on that fairly quickly. Is this perhaps a case of YMMV rather than a clear problem for *everybody*? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bemr...@phoenixcon.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bemrich%40phoenixcon.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:01 AM To: Art Campbell; Garnier Garnier Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov I feel like I shouldn't even say this out loud now--I've been using Frame 7.0 and Acrobat Pro 7 together for a couple of years, and Save as PDF works like a charm for me. Where's some wood to knock on? Bob Let what comes, come, Let what goes, go, Find out what remains. Sri Ramana Maharshi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Use of please in technical documentation and messages on screen
On the other hand, why is it that computer programs must be seen to be terse/rude? There is no reason why a computer generated request cannot be perceived as, at least, courteous. Please wait is not a difficult thing to understand and is better for the user to read than a terse wait. It is not relevant that it may not be translatable into other languages. Users will be reading it in English, the language it is written in. Alan On 30/06/2009, at 1:26 AM, Thomas Scalise wrote: Verner, I write in Controlled English for translation. I would write: Wait while the program updates the results. Thus, you avoid the Please and the gerund (updating), the first of which is unnecessary and the second of which may not be translatable in many languages. Simple, direct, active voice statements are best. Words like carefully, slowly, etc., are also invitations to interpretation by the reader, which may not be the result you want. HTH. Tom -Original Message- From: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [mailto:verner.ander...@radiometer.dk ] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:31 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Use of please in technical documentation and messages on screen Hi Once I learned that you shouln't use the word please in technical documentation - that it was like asking the reader to do you favor. Does this still hold true? Is it OK to have this message displayed on the screen of our user interface? We are updating the result list, please wait Best regards, Verner Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. This e-mail message from Cross Match Technologies, Inc. is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Hello All, I too have been using FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 for 3 years and Save As was working just fine. Other writers are using FM 7.0 and Acrobat Pro 8.0 since the last one year and Save As is working just fine. The issue is with FM 7.0 and Acrobat Pro 9.0. I have tried all suggestions provided on the list including the patch sent by Adobe. NOTHING works. With the patch pdf is generated but fonts in the document changes and the consfile.txt is empty. I tried on a new clean machine. It still did not work. As mentioned Printing to ps and then converting to pdf works fine. I have over 300 manuals and definitely cannot convert them manually to ps and then to pdf. I use script to autogenerate the pdfs and the script does not work with Acrobat 9.0. I also got to know that other writers who are not part of the list too are facing similar problems and in their case too the patch did not work. The patch is fine if one needs to convert to pdf randomly but not for a set of 300-350 manuals with over 700 pages each. B/R Garnier -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:01 AM To: Art Campbell; Garnier Garnier Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov I feel like I shouldn't even say this out loud now--I've been using Frame 7..0 and Acrobat Pro 7 together for a couple of years, and Save as PDF works like a charm for me. Where's some wood to knock on? Bob Let what comes, come, Let what goes, go, Find out what remains. Sri Ramana Maharshi ___ -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian Emrich Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:23 PM To: syed.hos...@aeris.net Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved Syd, I also continue to use Save As PDF with no problems for the exact reason you state (FM 7.2, Acrobat 8). When I went to Acrobat 8 (came with CS3), the View Generated PDF function didn't work, but I simply click the file in the Distiller window that pops up, and the pdf file opens with bookmarks, hyperlinks and security settings intact. For me, it's so simple that's its been a bit irritating that the process gets hammered so quickly by the list. But, since I've never had any problems, I can't offer any suggestions for why it doesn't work for others. It works for me, even with my IT dept. doing the installs, so I'm sure they didn't do anything special. Brian syed.hos...@aeris.net Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 07/06/2009 11:27 AM To Dov Isaacs isa...@adobe.com, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com, Garnier Garnier garnier_framescr...@yahoo.co.in cc framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved To be as clear as possible, the save as PDF feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ... because, my experience with Save as PDF to Acrobat has been just fine over the years. I have used all versions of FM 6, 7, and 8 (for FM 9, evaluation only for a few weeks) with the various *similar* Acrobat generations available at those times (including FM 7.2 with Acrobat 8) and have not had any major difficulties with the Save as PDF from within FM. (Other than the issue with having to change the paragraph tag settings - one time for any given document - for the PDF generation back and forth a few times till I get the sequence right and prevent the now-expected FM crash. But that is a one-time frustration - albeit silly and aggravating and I wish Adobe would fix it - with any given document and any given version change of FM or Acrobat. After making the changes to the settings for a document, when using a new version of FM, the Save as PDF works perfectly for me from then on.) In fact, having tried both Save as PDF and Print to PDF (only a few times though), with Save as PDF I'd say I get better results, since it gives me the heading markers and window automatically ... which I was not able to figure out afterwards with Print to PDF, so I gave up on that fairly quickly. Is this perhaps a case of YMMV rather than a clear problem for *everybody*? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bemr...@phoenixcon.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit
RE: Converting PDF to Word
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF-Word conversions ... works reasonably well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done. Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker directly. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Galanter Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Converting PDF to Word Hi Framers, I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks -- useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.) I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive). Thanks! Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer Attenex, an F T I company lgalan...@attenex.com www.attenex.com Phone: 206-689-4438 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris. net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting PDF to Word
Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker directly. Argh ... wrote should be write. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
As mentioned Printing to ps and then converting to pdf works fine. I have over 300 manuals and definitely cannot convert them manually to ps and then to pdf. I use script to autogenerate the pdfs and the script does not work with Acrobat 9.0. You're working too hard. Just print straight to the AdobePDF virtual printer instance, instead. It does the same thing as printing to a PS file and then distilling the PS into a PDF-- all in one step. Alternately, look up watched folders in help, and print to a PS file in a watched folder. Acrobat automatically distills any PS file placed into a watched folder. Even cooler, you can set up different watched subfolders, each tied to a different .joboptions file. So you might have a watched folder tied to a .joboptions that distills with lo-res 72dpi graphics for use on the Web. Or a watched folder that distills files with hi-res 300dpi graphics for use on printing press. Etc. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Converting PDF to Word
Hi Lea, We have been using Solid PDF tools converter with great success and this costs 5 cents less than 100 dollars:-) regards Ankur On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Lea Galanter lgalan...@attenex.com wrote: Hi Framers, I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks -- useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.) I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive). Thanks! Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer Attenex, an F T I company lgalan...@attenex.com www.attenex.com Phone: 206-689-4438 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as ankur.1...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ankur.1978%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Jeremy and Alan, Good idea. We'll try that. I'll let you know what happens. We tried Scott Prentice' suggestion about splitting the file up. It works if we chop it up into sections of 90 topics each. But that's a lot of trouble. If it is actually a bug as Scott and Rick say, then the only way to get the file into FM is to break it up. But we have lots more files like this and manually breaking it up is probably not the most efficient way to do this. I'm hoping that Adobe Engineering finds/creates a real solution to the problem. Best regards, Diane = -Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:59 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Diane Gaskill Subject: Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:28:23 -0700, Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.net wrote: 3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) 4. An error message Validation of XML file failed. appears. We ignore the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box appears. Then I'd say you've isolated it to a validation error introduced by the custom XSL. To check that, try using the DocBook EDD that comes out of the box with Frame, with no XSL. Any difference? -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Converting PDF to Word
At 01:53 PM 7/07/2009, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF-Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.
NitroPDF Professional does a perfect conversion - at least to {blush} Word 7,
which is the youngest version of Word I have or ever will have. I guess this
answer is a bit off-topic in the Framemaker users' list. ;-)
HB
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Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
? Hello Listers, ? Wanted to mention that: ? As suggested by one of the listeres, ? I removed all Adobe products from my machine including the registries. ? Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the installation. How do I resolve this? ? >From Adobe I received the attached mail and as instructed I also installed the >patch. Please see my response to Adobe engr. ? Any idea if I could return Acrobat 9.0 and ask for 8.0 instead? I cannot afford to continue to debug the issue as I have strict deadlines to meet. ? B/R Garnier ? ? ? My response to Adobe Engr. ? ? Thanks. You are right we are using FM 7.0 p576. I have installed the patch. I would like to inform that we are also using Acrobat 8.0 since the last one year with the same build of FM and did not encounter any problems. We did not have to install the patch so not sure about the actual issue with Acrobat 9.0 distiller. ? After installing the patch the Save As option first throws an alert " the selected joboptions not found" Clicking OK starts the distiller for a fraction of second and the pdf is generated. ? If the joboptions is not found how is it converting to PDF? In the generated pdf the fonts change. The consfile.txt is empty and this is not acceptable. ? I am using Framescripts to autogenerate the pdfs. The scripts are running fine with Acrobat 8.0 but with 9.0 it is throwing system error. ? I never faced any of the above mentioned issues with distiller 5.0 and recently installed Acrobat Professional 9.0. so that I could annotate the pdfs for review feedback. ? I now intend to ? 1.?? uninstall all the Adobe products on my machine and manually cleaning up the registry entries because the uninstallers do not do it. 2.?? Reinstall Framemaker 7.0 p576 with distiller 5.0 3.?? Reinstall Acrobat Reader/Viewer 9.0, Editor 9.0 ? I have been told that Adobe Editor can annotate any version of pdf for commenting. ? Is the above the right approach? ? I will wait for your response. ? Why does Adobe products not clean the registries during Uninstall? Why does one need to do so manually? ? ? B/R Garnier ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Original Message- From: Megha Chaitanya [mailto:me...@adobe.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:09 AM To: Garnier Garnier Cc: Megha Chaitanya Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0 ? Hi Garnier, ? Which build no of FM7 are you using? (You can get this info from Help->AboutFrameMaker) .The Patch p578 (framemaker 7 is p576) was released to make framemaker7 work with acrobat version 6 and higher. Pls. see if installing p578 solves the problem. ? Regards, Megha FrameMaker Engg. Team ? ? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Garnier Garnier Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:59 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0 ? ? Hi Listers, ? Thanks to each one of you who responded to my query. ? Am using FM 7.0 and was using Acrobat distiller 5.0. All was working fine including the scripts that I use for various processes before the docs go into the build. ? The requirement shifted to having editable pdfs so opted for Acrobat Pro 9.0. ? Uninstalled distiller 5.0 and installed 9.0. For Manual conversion "Save As" does not work as the tool is unable to locate the job options and the distiller instance. ? On checking noticed that distiller 5.0 registry exists. I will remove all instances of 5.0 and re-install 9.0. Making "Save As" work is important else I may have to modify the scripts that I am using as none are working with 9.0. ? Once again thanks for the responses. Once the issue is resolved will share with the listers. ? Meanwhile more suggestions/workarounds/solutions welcome. ? Best Regards, Garnier ? ? ? ? Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/ ? ___ ? ? You are currently subscribed to Framers as megha at adobe.com. ? Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. ? To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/megha%40adobe.com ? Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
colors in tables
Hi Susan Looks like someone has been using "custom ruling and shading", which is not recommended in this case (except for the left column). So, remove the custom ruling and shading and use the Table Designer to set the Shading, for example: - Heading and Footing Shading: Fill 100 % - Body Shading: Shade By Body Rows, First 1 Fill 30%; Next 1 Fill 30 % - Apply custom shading to the left column To remove custom ruling/shading: select all cells in the table and choose Table > Custom Ruling and Shading > Custom Cell Shading > Fill: From Table, Color: From table. Tip: Buy Rick Quatro's Table Cleaner plugin for this type of work: http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm Kind regards -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > Using FMKR 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, on Vista Enterprise on HP > (Compaq) laptop. > I do not have the full Acrobat 5.0 program, on this system. But, I could > take the FMKR file to my own pc and use Acrobat 5.0 and then bring it back > to this laptop. > > Question: > > I have a large (17pgs) table for my glossary. > > The rows are alternating colors - light and medium shade of the same color. > However, the header top row and the left column - are a solid color. > > Now, we are adding and deleting some of these glossary entries. > > Is there a way to have the alternate row colors update automatically? > I have already gone into the Table Designer and I am working with the shade > settings, but not much luck yet. > > I inherited this table - I think the alternate coloring was done with copy > / paste. > > Thanks, > Sue > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Hi everyone, FM8, structured XML, DocBook 4.2 (I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer requires it). WinXP Pro 4 GB RAM 160 GB HDD We're trying to import an XML file into FM8 but FM crashes. The file includes 750 topics that are imported into an FM book as mini-chapter files. They will eventually become topics in RH via TCS. However, FM crashes at about 250 files (repeatable). Restarting FM and/or rebooting the system has no effect. We thought at first that there might be a limit on the number of chapters that can be added to a book. But the Adobe Tech Note at http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/310/310864.html says no, although there may be a practical limit that is dependent on RAM and disk space. TechNote Maximum Number of Files in an Adobe FrameMaker Book Ratings:0 FrameMaker does not limit the number of files you can place in a generated book. Adobe has tested placing several hundred files in a book without consequence. Though you can create a book of this size, generating or updating the book requires enough memory and disk space to open and save every file. I searched the net and the Adobe site but could not find any informatrion related to this problem. If anyone has any experience with this or knows of a tech note or other Adobe article that might provide an answer, I would really appreciate the help. Thanks lots. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems Santa Clara, CA
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Garnier Garnier wrote: > > Hello Listers, > > Wanted to mention that: > > As suggested by one of the listeres, > > I removed all Adobe products from my machine including the > registries. > > Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install > Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting > to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the > installation. How do I resolve this? > Garnier, Dov Isaacs of Adobe has frequently and adamantly advised that only ONE installation of Acrobat OR Reader OR Distiller should ever be put on a single PC. Here's a quotation from the archives: "Although (very unfortunately), it is PHYSICALLY possible to have multiple versions of Adobe Acrobat concurrently installed, concurrent versions of Adobe Reader concurrently installed, or some combination of versions of both Acrobat and Reader installed, the truth is that the architecture of these programs and the underlying operating system services used by same really only fully supports installation of only one version of EITHER Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader on one system at one time [T]here are a tremendous number of problems reported to Adobe that are suddenly cleared up when the user's systems are scraped of all concurrent versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced by a single version of one or another. (Note that by "Acrobat" I mean any and all pieces of it including the Distiller, the AdobePDF PostScript printer driver instance, and the viewing program!)" I suggest that you uninstall everything again, then reinstall Framemaker but do NOT allow it to install Distiller. Then install Acrobat (I assume you mean Acrobat Standard or Pro -- I don't know of a program called "Acrobat Editor") and do NOT install Reader. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail." -- Oscar Wilde
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
In addition to Stuart's accurate assessment, you're really unlikely to get SaveAs in FM 7 working with a current version of Acrobat because the name and location of the PDF printer has changed over the years since FM 7 shipped. So if you install Acrobat 9 properly, FM 7 has no way of knowing the new location because it didn't exist when 7 shipped. The easiest fix is to install FM 7, install Acrobat 9, and use File > Print to produce your PDFs. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote: > Garnier Garnier wrote: >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> Wanted to mention that: >> >> As suggested by one of the listeres, >> >> I removed all Adobe products from my machine including the >> registries. >> >> Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 Then I attempted to install >> Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because Acrobat keeps prompting >> to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to proceed with the >> installation. How do I resolve this? >> > > > Garnier, > > Dov Isaacs of Adobe has frequently and adamantly advised that only ONE > installation of Acrobat OR Reader OR Distiller should ever be put on a > single PC. ?Here's a quotation from the archives: > > "Although (very unfortunately), it is PHYSICALLY possible to > have multiple versions of Adobe Acrobat concurrently installed, > concurrent versions of Adobe Reader concurrently installed, or > some combination of versions of both Acrobat and Reader installed, > the truth is that the architecture of these programs and the > underlying operating system services used by same really only > fully supports installation of only one version of EITHER Adobe > Acrobat or Adobe Reader on one system at one time [T]here are a > tremendous number of problems reported to > Adobe that are suddenly cleared up when the user's systems are > scraped of all concurrent versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced > by a single version of one or another. (Note that by "Acrobat" I > mean any and all pieces of it including the Distiller, the AdobePDF > PostScript printer driver instance, and the viewing program!)" > > > I suggest that you uninstall everything again, then reinstall Framemaker > but do NOT allow it to install Distiller. ?Then install Acrobat (I > assume you mean Acrobat Standard or Pro -- I don't know of a program > called "Acrobat Editor") and do NOT install Reader. > > HTH, > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > Toronto, ON, Canada > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > > srogers phoenix-geophysics com > > "It is not enough that I succeed. > ?Others must fail." > > -- Oscar Wilde > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
To be as clear as possible, the "save as PDF" feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! - Dov
colors in tables
Hi Sue, The table was probably imported into FrameMaker from Word and so the alternating shading are considered overrides to the default table shading. Here is how to fix it: 1) Select the entire table. 2) Choose Table > Custom Ruling and Shading 3) Uncheck the Custom Cell Ruling checkbox and check the Custom Cell Shading checkbox. 4) Choose From Table under both Fill and Color popup menus. 5) Click the Apply button. This will remove the overrides from the table. Now you can set the alternating shading in the Table Designer and it should work as you add and delete rows. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. rick at frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hi All, Using FMKR 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, on Vista Enterprise on HP (Compaq) laptop. I do not have the full Acrobat 5.0 program, on this system. But, I could take the FMKR file to my own pc and use Acrobat 5.0 and then bring it back to this laptop. Question: I have a large (17pgs) table for my glossary. The rows are alternating colors - light and medium shade of the same color. However, the header top row and the left column - are a solid color. Now, we are adding and deleting some of these glossary entries. Is there a way to have the alternate row colors update automatically? I have already gone into the Table Designer and I am working with the shade settings, but not much luck yet. I inherited this table - I think the alternate coloring was done with copy / paste. Thanks, Sue ___
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
> To be as clear as possible, the "save as PDF" feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! > > - Dov Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ... because, my experience with "Save as PDF" to Acrobat has been just fine over the years. I have used all versions of FM 6, 7, and 8 (for FM 9, evaluation only for a few weeks) with the various *similar* Acrobat generations available at those times (including FM 7.2 with Acrobat 8) and have not had any major difficulties with the "Save as PDF" from within FM. (Other than the issue with having to change the paragraph tag settings - one time for any given document - for the PDF generation back and forth a few times till I get the sequence right and prevent the now-expected FM crash. But that is a one-time frustration - albeit silly and aggravating and I wish Adobe would fix it - with any given document and any given version change of FM or Acrobat. After making the changes to the settings for a document, when using a new version of FM, the "Save as PDF" works perfectly for me from then on.) In fact, having tried both "Save as PDF" and "Print to PDF" (only a few times though), with "Save as PDF" I'd say I get better results, since it gives me the heading markers and window automatically ... which I was not able to figure out afterwards with "Print to PDF", so I gave up on that fairly quickly. Is this perhaps a case of "YMMV" rather than a clear problem for *everybody*? Z
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
I'm trying to add a "draft" watermark to our CHM output. Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in the CHM topics. A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing?
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Installed FM 7.0 with distiller 5.0 > Then I attempted to install Acrobat Editor and Reader but failed because > Acrobat keeps prompting to remove distiller 5.0. It does not allow me to > proceed with the installation. > How do I resolve this? By removing Distiller 5.0, as the Acrobat 9 installation program asked! (Actually, it should offer to remove it for you. I'm surprised that it didn't.) When you installed FM 7, installing Distiller 5 was _optional_. It's an option that should _only_ be exercised by people who don't intend to install the full version (Standard or Pro) of Acrobat. Since you apparently have Acrobat Pro, you should ABSOLUTELY NOT install the Distiller that came with FM 7. As a number of us have tried to make clear, multiple versions of Acrobat do _not_ coexist nicely. As Stuart pointed out, there is no such thing as Acrobat Editor. If you meant Acrobat Pro, it _includes_ Distiller. If you want to install and use Acrobat Pro (any version), you absolutely should _not_ have separate Distiller or Reader installations on your PC. That said, I'd take Dov Isaac's word for it that FM 7.0's Save As PDF won't work with the newer versions of Acrobat; FM 7.0 is pretty old. (FM 7.2, OTOH, works fine with Acrobat 7, which is when the printer instance changed, and thus may work with Acro 8 or 9). But that brings up another question. IIRC, you originally said you were switching from Distiller 5 to Acrobat Pro 9 in order to get the Enable Commenting feature. But in your response to the Adobe engineer, you said you'd been using Acro 8 for a year "and did not encounter any problems." Acro 8 fully supports commenting (as does Acro 7). So I'm completely confused as to why you're upgrading from Acro 8 to Acro 9 and why the ancient Distiller 5 that was bundled with FM keeps re-entering the picture. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Diane, I'm making a WAG that either you're hitting a processing wall (the RAM/disk space you mentioned -- how much of the 160 is free?), that there's a network timeout at a certain point, or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file range that's causing an error. Can you convert #250 by itself, or divide the project so that you can test, maybe by thirds? Topics 1-250, 251-500, and so on? Art Can you play with the configuration at all Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Diane Gaskill wrote: > Hi everyone, > > FM8, structured > XML, DocBook 4.2 ?(I know, I know. Not my idea, but an OEM customer requires > it). > WinXP Pro > 4 GB RAM > 160 GB HDD > > We're trying to import an XML file into FM8 but FM crashes. ?The file > includes 750 topics that are imported into an FM book as mini-chapter files. > They will eventually become topics in RH via TCS. ?However, FM crashes at > about 250 files (repeatable). ?Restarting FM and/or rebooting the system has > no effect. > > We thought at first that there might be a limit on the number of chapters > that can be added to a book. But the Adobe Tech Note at > http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/310/310864.html says no, although there may be a > practical limit that is dependent on RAM and disk space. > > ? ? ? ?TechNote > ? ? ? ?Maximum Number of Files in an Adobe FrameMaker Book > ? ? ? ?Ratings:0 > ? ? ? ?FrameMaker does not limit the number of files you can place in a > generated > book. > ? ? ? ?Adobe has tested placing several hundred files in a book without > consequence. > ? ? ? ?Though you can create a book of this size, generating or updating the > book > requires > ? ? ? ?enough memory and disk space to open and save every file. > > I searched the net and the Adobe site but could not find any informatrion > related to this problem. ?If anyone has any experience with this or knows of > a tech note or other Adobe article that might provide an answer, I would > really appreciate the help. > > Thanks lots. > > Diane Gaskill > Hitachi Data Systems > Santa Clara, CA > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
(an update - also posting to Omsys list) When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: - if a single topic has a markup, then in the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in the CSS file. - if no topics have a markup, then the CHM does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? Jim Owens wrote: > I'm trying to add a "draft" watermark to our CHM output. > > Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section > 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as > viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in > the CHM topics. > > A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing?
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
Jim, Edit the .hhp file in a text editor, add draft.jpg to the files section, and then compile in HTML Help Workshop. Mike -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:51 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: Re: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM (an update - also posting to Omsys list) When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: - if a single topic has a markup, then in the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in the CSS file. - if no topics have a markup, then the CHM does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? Jim Owens wrote: > I'm trying to add a "draft" watermark to our CHM output. > > Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation (Section > 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as > viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in > the CHM topics. > > A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mike.feimster at acstechnologies.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acst echnologies.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
That works! Thank you. Mike Feimster wrote: > Jim, > > Edit the .hhp file in a text editor, add draft.jpg to the files section, > and then compile in HTML Help Workshop. > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:51 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com > Subject: Re: Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM > > (an update - also posting to Omsys list) > > When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: > > - if a single topic has a markup, then in > the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other > topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in > the CSS file. > > - if no topics have a markup, then the CHM > > does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. > > Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I > discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm > missing? > > > Jim Owens wrote: >> I'm trying to add a "draft" watermark to our CHM output. >> >> Following the CSS method described in the Mif2GO documentation > (Section >> 22.11), I've succeeded in adding a watermark to the HTML files, as >> viewed in Internet Explorer. However, the watermark does not appear in > >> the CHM topics. >> >> A quick Internet search turns up nothing about this. What am I > missing? > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > mike.feimster at acstechnologies.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acst > echnologies.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
Mif2Go: adding watermark to CHM
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:50:40 -0400, Jim Owens wrote: >When I compile the HTML files from HTML Help Workshop: > >- if a single topic has a markup, then in >the CHM, that topic has the background image, tiled, and all the other >topics have the background image, non-tiled and centred as specified in >the CSS file. > >- if no topics have a markup, then the CHM >does not have any background images, even though the CSS specifies one. > >Fully repeatable, and at this point Mif2Go is not involved. Have I >discovered a new Help Compiler bug, or is there still something I'm missing? It's a Help Compiler feature, not a bug. ;-) The watermark only show up when you mention the graphic in a topic because otherwise the compiler doesn't know it's part of the project, and doesn't include it in the CHM. (The compiler can't parse the CSS to find it.) But when you do mention it, that overrides the CSS for that file. So *don't* mention it in any topic, but *do* include it by name in the [Files] section of the .hhp. Easy one. ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:40:36 -0400, Art Campbell wrote: >or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file >range that's causing an error. Adding to Art's thought, have you tried validating the file, to see if there is a well-formedness error or other such problem from which Frame can't recover? I do suspect you're pushing some internal limit here. The 250 is suspiciously close to 255... the max value of a byte, a limit a careless programmer could have imposed unknowingly, possibly in EDD processing. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Hi Jeremy, Excellent question. Yes, we validated the file with Oxygen before importing it into FM. Here is the procedure we are using. 1. Validate the XML in the Oxygen editor 2. Drag and drop the Validated XML file to the work area of FrameMaker 8. The Use Structured Application dialog box appears. 3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) 4. An error message "Validation of XML file failed." appears. We ignore the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box appears. 5.In the Save as type field, we select Book (*.book). Enter any file name and then click Save. Diane -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:31 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:40:36 -0400, Art Campbell wrote: >or that there's some type of content in the ~250 file >range that's causing an error. Adding to Art's thought, have you tried validating the file, to see if there is a well-formedness error or other such problem from which Frame can't recover? I do suspect you're pushing some internal limit here. The 250 is suspiciously close to 255... the max value of a byte, a limit a careless programmer could have imposed unknowingly, possibly in EDD processing. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:28:23 -0700, "Diane Gaskill" wrote: >3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click >Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) > >4. An error message "Validation of XML file failed." appears. We ignore >the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box >appears. Then I'd say you've isolated it to a validation error introduced by the custom XSL. To check that, try using the DocBook EDD that comes out of the box with Frame, with no XSL. Any difference? -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
FM9 Hierarchical book groups/folders not excluded from output in RH8
I have a book (unstructured FM) that uses some text insets in some of my chapters in order to reuse content. However, when I create help in RH8, sometimes a few of my cross-references in chapters with text insets aren't treated as links, but as plain text. I think to resolve this, I want to include the text insets as files in my book so they get updated when I update the book. So, I tried using both a group and a folder in the book to do this, and setting the group/folder to be excluded from output. The FM book updated beautifully, and the insets were correctly excluded from the TOC. But when I generate my WebHelp in RH8, the "excluded" inset topics are included in the TOC and are generated in a folder corresponding to the name of my FM book's group or folder (behavior seems identical for folder or group). As expected, the original link problem is resolved, but I don't want to add "delete the excluded content from RH" as a manual step every time we update the helps. Let me know if this is just another "feature" of the "integration" between RH and FM in TCS2, if it's an issue that's already been reported to Adobe, or if there is actually a way to make this work. Thanks, Shane
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
Syd, I also continue to use Save As PDF with no problems for the exact reason you state (FM 7.2, Acrobat 8). When I went to Acrobat 8 (came with CS3), the View Generated PDF function didn't work, but I simply click the file in the Distiller window that pops up, and the pdf file opens with bookmarks, hyperlinks and security settings intact. For me, it's so simple that's its been a bit irritating that the process gets hammered so quickly by the list. But, since I've never had any problems, I can't offer any suggestions for why it doesn't work for others. It works for me, even with my IT dept. doing the installs, so I'm sure they didn't do anything special. Brian Sent by: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 07/06/2009 11:27 AM To "Dov Isaacs" , "Art Campbell" , "Garnier Garnier" cc framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved > To be as clear as possible, the "save as PDF" feature of FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! > >- Dov Folks, I have to ask if this is categorically true for everybody ... because, my experience with "Save as PDF" to Acrobat has been just fine over the years. I have used all versions of FM 6, 7, and 8 (for FM 9, evaluation only for a few weeks) with the various *similar* Acrobat generations available at those times (including FM 7.2 with Acrobat 8) and have not had any major difficulties with the "Save as PDF" from within FM. (Other than the issue with having to change the paragraph tag settings - one time for any given document - for the PDF generation back and forth a few times till I get the sequence right and prevent the now-expected FM crash. But that is a one-time frustration - albeit silly and aggravating and I wish Adobe would fix it - with any given document and any given version change of FM or Acrobat. After making the changes to the settings for a document, when using a new version of FM, the "Save as PDF" works perfectly for me from then on.) In fact, having tried both "Save as PDF" and "Print to PDF" (only a few times though), with "Save as PDF" I'd say I get better results, since it gives me the heading markers and window automatically ... which I was not able to figure out afterwards with "Print to PDF", so I gave up on that fairly quickly. Is this perhaps a case of "YMMV" rather than a clear problem for *everybody*? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as bemrich at phoenixcon.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bemrich%40phoenixcon.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue still not resolved
> -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:01 AM > To: Art Campbell; Garnier Garnier > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Save As not working with Acrobat Pro 9.0- issue > still not resolved > > To be as clear as possible, the "save as PDF" feature of > FrameMaker 7 is not at all compatible with Acrobat 7, 8, or 9! > > - Dov I feel like I shouldn't even say this out loud now--I've been using Frame 7.0 and Acrobat Pro 7 together for a couple of years, and Save as PDF works like a charm for me. Where's some wood to knock on? Bob "Let what comes, come, Let what goes, go, Find out what remains." Sri Ramana Maharshi
Converting PDF to Word
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF->Word conversions ... works reasonably well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done. Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker directly. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Galanter Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:30 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Converting PDF to Word Hi Framers, I'm hoping someone can help me out with converting PDFs to Word docs. My department creates our user guides in FrameMaker, but other departments want to use our text in their materials as well, so they ask me for a Word version. I have been using Adobe Acrobat to save the PDF as a Word doc but it really looks awful and puts the text in weird chunks -- useable but not pretty. (Yes, we could use a real content management system--we've already asked, and the answer has been an emphatic No.) I started looking for applications that can create a good Word version of a PDF, but thought I might ask here in case anyone is already using one that they can highly recommend (something not expensive). Thanks! Lea Galanter Lead Technical Editor and Writer Attenex, an F T I company lgalanter at attenex.com www.attenex.com Phone: 206-689-4438 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Syed.Hosain at aeris.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris. net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Converting PDF to Word
> Might be easier to use Mif2Go to wrote the RTF for Word, from FrameMaker directly. Argh ... "wrote" should be "write". Z
Frame crashes when importing large XML file
Jeremy and Alan, Good idea. We'll try that. I'll let you know what happens. We tried Scott Prentice' suggestion about splitting the file up. It works if we chop it up into sections of 90 topics each. But that's a lot of trouble. If it is actually a bug as Scott and Rick say, then the only way to get the file into FM is to break it up. But we have lots more files like this and manually breaking it up is probably not the most efficient way to do this. I'm hoping that Adobe Engineering finds/creates a real solution to the problem. Best regards, Diane = -Original Message- From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:59 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Diane Gaskill Subject: Re: Frame crashes when importing large XML file On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:28:23 -0700, "Diane Gaskill" wrote: >3. From the drop-down list, select Hitachi-RAID (EN), and then click >Continue. (This uses a custom XSL file from our tools group) > >4. An error message "Validation of XML file failed." appears. We ignore >the message and click OK to continue processing. The Save Book dialog box >appears. Then I'd say you've isolated it to a validation error introduced by the custom XSL. To check that, try using the DocBook EDD that comes out of the box with Frame, with no XSL. Any difference? -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
