Thanks Fred. You took the words right out of my mouth!
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf
Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:41 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.; Ken Poshedly
So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically
on the right troubleshooting path. Hooray!
As to other old memories:
FullWrite Professional (a promising feature-filled Mac word processor) had
the fantastic ability to randomly animate bullet points, so, there was no
Don't get me started on bullets and autonumbering in MS applications. Once upon
a time it just worked. And then they started making it more "helpful" and
automatic... and unreliable and impossible to troubleshoot when it breaks.
But if you want to see a real horror show, spend a while trying
I can't remember a Microsoft product release with similarly serious
bugs that still weren't fixed eight years or six major releases later.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft.
> (What does he mean by
So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft.
(What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for an
engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers could correct
my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used Word's paragraph
tag-method to tag
Good advice. It was never clear to me if this was a Framemaker,
Acrobat, or Distiller problem since it occurred when I tried to open
each of the programs.
At 02:23 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
I guess the best is to post your question in the corresponding
thread in the Acrobat Forum and tag
interesting. I do not have the "Automatically download updates, but let me
choose when to install them." in Acrobat Pro DC anymore. Only "Automatically
I guess the best is to post your question in the corresponding thread in the
Acrobat Forum and tag one of the
It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of
the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits
the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally
I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the
Stefan, I'm running Acrobat XI Pro. My selected setting for updates
is "Automatically download updates, but let me choose when to install
them." There is an update ready to install but I have not installed
it. Yet the problem went away on April 28 as mysteriously as it
appeared on April 27.
The only commonality I've seen is FrameMaker from version 9 on up, which
was when the interface was redesigned.
I've seen numerous gripes since that time that the new coding had broken
some of the keyboard shortcuts, but it used to be restricted to just the
UNIX carryovers. Recently,I've actually
unfortunately I cannot help regarding this. As far as I know, this issue has
nothing to do with FrameMaker. As far as I understand from quickly scanning the
thread you linked (which points to the Acrobat forum) it has something to do
with a Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable
Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences:
It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow.
In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard driver
issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or other input
the Update 1 for FrameMaker 2017 is available for direct download now also from
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
We recently (as in the beginning of this year) upgraded to FM2015.
I think I'm going to add Alison's checks / process to my final processing.
I haven't had colors show up, but I have had issues with text that has
conditional tags either showing up (or not showing up) inappropriately.
And hope I
Stefan, I hope that you can help sort something out that has bothered
me ever since the April 27 Adobe system error occurred. That was the
one where users trying to start Framemaker, Acrobat, and/or Distiller
suddenly experienced this error: "The program can't start because
FWIW, I’ve had great results with conditional text in Fm2015 and Fm2017.
And each subsequent release since Fm10 (including Fm2017) has crashed less than
I run Fm on a very lean (75 Gb Virtual disk, running Win 8.1) with 16 Gb memory.
Specifically, the changes in conditional text
Sometimes the Conditions don't show up correctly - bits of text have the wrong
Condition showing or a segment or 2 stays in the Conditional colour.
I've learned to always:
- reboot before setting the final manual Conditions for each manual
- finalize with Conditional colours showing
- turn off
What sort of glitches with condition text? I ask because (as previously
seen) I am making heavy use of conditions to create manuals and have had
issues, but I thought it was MY fault.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Craig, Alison
> I wonder if this
I reported that bug in 2009, the first time I used the weird UI
introduced in FM9.
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Tammy Van Boening
> Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can
> get it to work again is reboot - more often
I wonder if this is related to the fact that I have to reboot before creating
the final condition settings for manuals.
If I don't, and I've been working hard in Frame for as little as 2-3 hours
beforehand, chances are there will be "glitches" with the conditional text.
This happens in Frame
Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can
get it to work again is reboot - more often than not, just closing and
re-opening FM does not work for me at all. And yes, it is a big PITA, and
no, I cannot find any pattern/reason to this behavior either.
unfortunately there are currently some problems with the server. We will update
the direct download for Update 1 asap.
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
Yeah, pretty much what Robert said. Frame8 was the last version where the
keyboard shortcuts worked as intended all the time. Something about
instituting the new interface broke things.
As someone who used to use those shortcuts ALL THE TIME, it's annoying that
some don't work ever, and that they
Yes .. if Save As XML does what you need, by all means, use that since
it'll be easier. But if your processing requires more document data in
XML, you'll either need to set up a conversion and structure app, or use
On 5/2/17 5:42 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
MIF is more
Again, as someone who is forced to use FM8 daily (alongside FM10,12,2015), I
have to say that is not path you want to follow.
The problem does sound like some sort of memory leak thing within FrameMaker
though, and they should fix that. You can bet they wont' go back and fix
Umm, if something is completed earlier than originally scheduled, the
completion date is moved *up*, (or moved forward, or advanced) not moved back.
Moving back means delaying or postponing.
Upgrade to FrameMaker 8?
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:
> At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard
> shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be
> done via menus-and-mouse. For
At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard
shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be
done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again this
morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know
By happy coincidence you can thank Bernt Lie for the following Modifying the
base FrameMaker template addition to my Fm 2017 reference book.
While reviewing the book for me, he requested the exact thing you’re asking
about. I’ve also included a short Editing
Has anyone had difficulty downloading FrameMaker 2017 update 1, from the
FrameMaker downloads page?
The table does not appear to detail anything about the download.
I can't use the Adobe Update Manager due to security protocol
restrictions at customer sites.
I tried the link on the
MIF is more complete than the save as XML of unstructured documents. For
example, I don't think markers come out in the XML, but they would certainly
appear in the MIF file.
From: Framers [mailto:email@example.com]
On Behalf Of
XSLT wouldn't be trivial but it's doable by mere mortals.
Scott (or anyone): What would be the reason to go this route instead of a
straight save to FM XML?
My original reason for posting was to get cleaner RTF/Word than FM is
putting out, but this feels like overkill...
Dear Frame Gurus
I'm recent to FrameMaker on Windows, but have been using FrameMaker itself
since v 3 on Mac.
So I have no direct experience of the fminit (?) file (?) other than vaguely
knowing of its existence. I need to do a trivial config to set the default page
size to A4 rather than US
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