Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
Thanks Fred. You took the words right out of my mouth! Alison From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 2:41 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.; Ken Poshedly Subject:

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Peter Gold
So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically on the right troubleshooting path. Hooray! As to other old memories: FullWrite Professional (a promising feature-filled Mac word processor) had the fantastic ability to randomly animate bullet points, so, there was no

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Don't get me started on bullets and autonumbering in MS applications. Once upon a time it just worked. And then they started making it more "helpful" and automatic... and unreliable and impossible to troubleshoot when it breaks. But if you want to see a real horror show, spend a while trying

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I can't remember a Microsoft product release with similarly serious bugs that still weren't fixed eight years or six major releases later. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft. > (What does he mean by

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Ken Poshedly
So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft. (What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for an engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers could correct my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used Word's paragraph tag-method to tag

Re: [Framers] Question for Stefan Gentz re the April 27 AdobeGCClient.exe System Error

2017-05-02 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Good advice. It was never clear to me if this was a Framemaker, Acrobat, or Distiller problem since it occurred when I tried to open each of the programs. Carol At 02:23 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote: I guess the best is to post your question in the corresponding thread in the Acrobat Forum and tag

Re: [Framers] Question for Stefan Gentz re the April 27 AdobeGCClient.exe System Error

2017-05-02 Thread Stefan Gentz
Hi Carol, interesting. I do not have the "Automatically download updates, but let me choose when to install them." in Acrobat Pro DC anymore. Only "Automatically install updates." I guess the best is to post your question in the corresponding thread in the Acrobat Forum and tag one of the

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally stops working. I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the half-dozen

Re: [Framers] Question for Stefan Gentz re the April 27 AdobeGCClient.exe System Error

2017-05-02 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Stefan, I'm running Acrobat XI Pro. My selected setting for updates is "Automatically download updates, but let me choose when to install them." There is an update ready to install but I have not installed it. Yet the problem went away on April 28 as mysteriously as it appeared on April 27.

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
The only commonality I've seen is FrameMaker from version 9 on up, which was when the interface was redesigned. I've seen numerous gripes since that time that the new coding had broken some of the keyboard shortcuts, but it used to be restricted to just the UNIX carryovers. Recently,I've actually

Re: [Framers] Question for Stefan Gentz re the April 27 AdobeGCClient.exe System Error

2017-05-02 Thread Stefan Gentz
Hi Carol, unfortunately I cannot help regarding this. As far as I know, this issue has nothing to do with FrameMaker. As far as I understand from quickly scanning the thread you linked (which points to the Acrobat forum) it has something to do with a Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 Redistributable

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Peter Gold
Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences: It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow. In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard driver issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or other input devices, multiple

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017, Update 1 - where is it for direct download?

2017-05-02 Thread Stefan Gentz
Hi, the Update 1 for FrameMaker 2017 is available for direct download now also from here: http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/detail.jsp?ftpID=6163   Regards, Stefan Gentz Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist      -Original Message- From: Framers

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
We recently (as in the beginning of this year) upgraded to FM2015. I think I'm going to add Alison's checks / process to my final processing. I haven't had colors show up, but I have had issues with text that has conditional tags either showing up (or not showing up) inappropriately. And hope I

[Framers] Question for Stefan Gentz re the April 27 AdobeGCClient.exe System Error

2017-05-02 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Stefan, I hope that you can help sort something out that has bothered me ever since the April 27 Adobe system error occurred. That was the one where users trying to start Framemaker, Acrobat, and/or Distiller suddenly experienced this error: "The program can't start because MSVCP140dll is

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread techcommtools.com
FWIW, I’ve had great results with conditional text in Fm2015 and Fm2017. And each subsequent release since Fm10 (including Fm2017) has crashed less than the previous. I run Fm on a very lean (75 Gb Virtual disk, running Win 8.1) with 16 Gb memory. Specifically, the changes in conditional text

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
Sometimes the Conditions don't show up correctly - bits of text have the wrong Condition showing or a segment or 2 stays in the Conditional colour. I've learned to always: - reboot before setting the final manual Conditions for each manual - finalize with Conditional colours showing - turn off

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
Wait, what? What sort of glitches with condition text? I ask because (as previously seen) I am making heavy use of conditions to create manuals and have had issues, but I thought it was MY fault. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Craig, Alison wrote: > I wonder if this

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
I reported that bug in 2009, the first time I used the weird UI introduced in FM9. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can > get it to work again is reboot - more often

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig, Alison
I wonder if this is related to the fact that I have to reboot before creating the final condition settings for manuals. If I don't, and I've been working hard in Frame for as little as 2-3 hours beforehand, chances are there will be "glitches" with the conditional text. This happens in Frame

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Tammy Van Boening
Yep, I have posted to the list about this very problem. The only way I can get it to work again is reboot - more often than not, just closing and re-opening FM does not work for me at all. And yes, it is a big PITA, and no, I cannot find any pattern/reason to this behavior either. TVB Tammy Van

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2017, Update 1 - where is it for direct download?

2017-05-02 Thread Stefan Gentz
Hi Simon, unfortunately there are currently some problems with the server. We will update http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/product.jsp?product=22=Windows with the direct download for Update 1 asap.   Regards, Stefan Gentz Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist   -Original Message- From:

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Lin Sims
Yeah, pretty much what Robert said. Frame8 was the last version where the keyboard shortcuts worked as intended all the time. Something about instituting the new interface broke things. As someone who used to use those shortcuts ALL THE TIME, it's annoying that some don't work ever, and that they

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

2017-05-02 Thread Scott Prentice
Yes .. if Save As XML does what you need, by all means, use that since it'll be easier. But if your processing requires more document data in XML, you'll either need to set up a conversion and structure app, or use MIF->MIFML. ...scott On 5/2/17 5:42 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: MIF is more

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Craig Ede
Again, as someone who is forced to use FM8 daily (alongside FM10,12,2015), I have to say that is not path you want to follow. The problem does sound like some sort of memory leak thing within FrameMaker though, and they should fix that. You can bet they wont' go back and fix previous

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Umm, if something is completed earlier than originally scheduled, the completion date is moved *up*, (or moved forward, or advanced) not moved back. Moving back means delaying or postponing. -FR From: Framers

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
Upgrade to FrameMaker 8? On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote: > Folks, > At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard > shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be > done via menus-and-mouse. For

[Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-02 Thread Ken Poshedly
Folks, At least every other day, and for no reason obvious to me, all keyboard shortcuts in FrameMaker will stop working after awhile and all tasks must be done via menus-and-mouse. For me, this such a PITA. And it happened again this morning. This has been going on forever. (Well, you know

Re: [Framers] Configuring FrameMaker default page size (with or without vm ware)

2017-05-02 Thread techcommtools.com
Hi Steve, By happy coincidence you can thank Bernt Lie for the following Modifying the base FrameMaker template addition to my Fm 2017 reference book. http://amzn.to/2pTxTbk While reviewing the book for me, he requested the exact thing you’re asking about. I’ve also included a short Editing

[Framers] FrameMaker 2017, Update 1 - where is it for direct download?

2017-05-02 Thread Simon BUCH
Hello, Has anyone had difficulty downloading FrameMaker 2017 update 1, from the FrameMaker downloads page? The table does not appear to detail anything about the download. I can't use the Adobe Update Manager due to security protocol restrictions at customer sites. I tried the link on the

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

2017-05-02 Thread Rick Quatro
MIF is more complete than the save as XML of unstructured documents. For example, I don't think markers come out in the XML, but they would certainly appear in the MIF file. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

2017-05-02 Thread Art Campbell
XSLT wouldn't be trivial but it's doable by mere mortals. Scott (or anyone): What would be the reason to go this route instead of a straight save to FM XML? My original reason for posting was to get cleaner RTF/Word than FM is putting out, but this feels like overkill... Cheers, Art Art

[Framers] Configuring FrameMaker default page size in Parallels

2017-05-02 Thread Steve Rickaby
Dear Frame Gurus I'm recent to FrameMaker on Windows, but have been using FrameMaker itself since v 3 on Mac. So I have no direct experience of the fminit (?) file (?) other than vaguely knowing of its existence. I need to do a trivial config to set the default page size to A4 rather than US