[Framers] speaking about my love of unstructured FrameMaker

2016-03-07 Thread meg miranda 
I still love unstructured Frame and I have some decent reasons for doing so.
I am speaking about it at a conference in Mountain View and would love to see 
you there.
http://west.writersua.com

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cheers,meg miranda
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Imported text

2013-04-22 Thread meg miranda 
Hi all,

I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame books.

Do you use this Frame feature?
If so, do you use it to reuse or share text?

Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.  
So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into 
the cover page of all 20 of our books.

thanks,
meg
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Re: FrameMaker Feature Requests

2012-05-03 Thread meg miranda 
My appologies, I didn't take the time to find the original poster of this 
request.
 
I would have a few feature requests, but first some info on how we use Frame:
 
We've got Frame set up with unstructured templates (even though we all have had 
DITA experience) and we use RoboHelp to convert 8 books into one single online 
help system.
 
Some of the larger issues I run into all the time:
 
Big irritation that I have, is that the variables are and have been a struggle 
to work with.  Individual writers (over time with writers coming and going) set 
up variables for their book, because, hey, it sounds like a logical and good 
idea. But when we bring multiple books together, I have no good way to manage 
the variables.  My advice to several writers has been to not use variables at 
all in favor of using the global search and replace functionality.  So I'd say 
either remove variables from Frame or put some effort into making them worth 
using. Interleaf used to do such a stand up job with variables. 
 
Other features that would be excellent to me would be things that focus on 
being able to globally manage paragraphs, characters, master pages, variables, 
table types, conditional values, graphics settings, anchored frame settings, 
and markers.  Seems like every release I end up having to troll through 10-20 
different books making macro-level changes through each of the supporting 
files. 
 
Let's see and another pain in the backside has been finding and removing 
paragraph or character styles that are applied but no longer used.  We did 
extensive template clean-up 3 releases ago, but are still finding interesting 
settings that deviate from the current template.  Even after we believe we have 
applied the paragraph style, the old thing still hangs on. I've had to apply 
paragraph styles, then apply default character style, then re-apply paragraph 
style before things stick. 
 
Integration with RoboHelp is a whole other set of grumblings.
 
Thanks and I hope this might help in some small way.
 
-meg

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FrameMaker Feature Requests

2012-05-03 Thread meg miranda 
My appologies, I didn't take the time to find the original poster of this 
request.
?
I would have a few feature requests, but first some info on how we use Frame:
?
We've got Frame set up with unstructured templates (even though we all have had 
DITA experience) and we use RoboHelp to convert 8 books into one single online 
help system.
?
Some of the larger issues I run into all the time:
?
Big irritation that?I have, is that the variables are and have been a struggle 
to work with.? Individual writers (over time with writers coming and going) set 
up variables for their book, because, hey, it sounds like a logical and good 
idea. But when we bring multiple books together, I have no good way to manage 
the variables.? My advice to several writers has been to not use variables at 
all in favor of using the global search and replace functionality.? So I'd say 
either remove variables from Frame or put some effort into making them worth 
using. Interleaf used to do such a stand up job with variables. 
?
Other features that would be excellent to me would be things that focus on 
being able to globally manage paragraphs, characters, master pages, variables, 
table types, conditional values, graphics settings, anchored frame settings, 
and markers.? Seems like every release I end up having to troll through 10-20 
different books making macro-level changes through each of the supporting 
files. 
?
Let's see and another pain in the backside has been finding and removing 
paragraph or character styles that are applied but no longer used.? We did 
extensive template clean-up 3 releases ago, but are still finding interesting 
settings that deviate from the current template.? Even after we believe we have 
applied the paragraph style, the old thing still hangs on. I've had to apply 
paragraph styles, then apply default character style, then re-apply paragraph 
style before things stick. 
?
Integration with RoboHelp is a whole other set of grumblings.
?
Thanks and I hope this might help in some small way.
?
-meg

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Re: hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs

2012-02-17 Thread meg miranda 
Number 2 is what I did. Yup that was it.  


Thanks Rick.  Much appreciated.  


-meg




 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
To: 'meg miranda' megmira...@yahoo.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:51 AM
Subject: RE: hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs
 

Hi Meg,
 
There are two ways that this can happen: 
 
1) You import images from another drive or network volume; this is unlikely in 
your case.
 
2) You Save As the FrameMaker document from one drive or volume to another. 
This will create absolute paths to the graphics. This may be what happened to 
you.
 
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.
 
Rick
 
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER
r...@frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com
 
 
 
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of meg miranda
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:43 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs
 
Hi all,
 
We're using Frame 10 and doing unstructured books.
 
We have source files out on a network drive, but we do often copy the files to 
our local machines so that we can work remotely and offline on them.
 
So now I have a book out on the network drive that somehow is referencing 
images on c:\dic\mybook\userguide\images\button.jpg instead of 
\images\button.jpg.  A similar thing has happened to some of the x-refs in 3 of 
the chapters.  We are getting specific references instead of relative 
references.
 
Does anyone have any suggestions why this behavior is happening? or how to fix 
it without having to open each chapter file and repoint the graphic directory?
 
I think I'm most conserned about understanding why it is happening, so that I 
can tell our team how to avoid this problem.
 
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hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs

2012-02-17 Thread meg miranda 
Number 2 is what I did. Yup that was it.? 


Thanks Rick.? Much appreciated.? 


-meg




 From: Rick Quatro 
To: 'meg miranda' ; framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:51 AM
Subject: RE: hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs


Hi Meg,
?
There are two ways that this can happen: 
?
1) You import images from another drive or network volume; this is unlikely in 
your case.
?
2) You Save As the FrameMaker document from one drive or volume to another. 
This will create absolute paths to the graphics. This may be what happened to 
you.
?
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.
?
Rick
?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
*** 585-283-5045 *** NEW NUMBER
rick at frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com
?
?
?
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lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of meg miranda
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:43 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs
?
Hi all,
?
We're using Frame 10 and doing unstructured books.
?
We have source files out on a network drive, but we do often copy the files to 
our local machines so that we can work remotely and offline on them.
?
So now I have a book out on the network drive that somehow is referencing 
images on c:\dic\mybook\userguide\images\button.jpg instead of 
\images\button.jpg.? A similar thing has happened to some of the x-refs in 3 of 
the chapters.? We are getting specific references instead of relative 
references.
?
Does anyone have any suggestions why this behavior is happening? or how to fix 
it without having to open each chapter file and repoint the graphic directory?
?
I think I'm most conserned about understanding why it is happening, so that I 
can tell our team how to avoid this problem.
?
thanks,
meg
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hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs

2012-02-16 Thread meg miranda 
Hi all,

We're using Frame 10 and doing unstructured books.

We have source files out on a network drive, but we do often copy the files to 
our local machines so that we can work remotely and offline on them.

So now I have a book out on the network drive that somehow is referencing 
images on c:\dic\mybook\userguide\images\button.jpg instead of 
\images\button.jpg.  A similar thing has happened to some of the x-refs in 3 of 
the chapters.  We are getting specific references instead of relative 
references.

Does anyone have any suggestions why this behavior is happening? or how to fix 
it without having to open each chapter file and repoint the graphic directory?

I think I'm most conserned about understanding why it is happening, so that I 
can tell our team how to avoid this problem.

thanks,
meg
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hard coded path names for imported graphics and x-refs

2012-02-16 Thread meg miranda 
Hi all,

We're using Frame 10 and doing unstructured books.

We have source files out on a network drive, but we do often copy the files to 
our local machines so that we can work remotely and offline on them.

So now I have a book out on the network drive that somehow is referencing 
images on c:\dic\mybook\userguide\images\button.jpg instead of 
\images\button.jpg.? A similar thing has happened to some of the x-refs in 3 of 
the chapters.? We are getting specific references instead of relative 
references.

Does anyone have any suggestions why this behavior is happening? or how to fix 
it without having to open each chapter file and repoint the graphic directory?

I think I'm most conserned about understanding why it is happening, so that I 
can tell our team how to avoid this problem.

thanks,
meg
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integration with Robohelp - graphics question

2011-04-13 Thread meg miranda 
We have a graphic that we would like to have resize with the size of the web 
page. (think corporate logo type graphic)

Is it possible to have that happen with settings in the robohelp project?

or do we have to hand edit the output files after they are completed?

Notes on our environment:
   Unstructured Frame 10
   Robohelp 9 converting to WebHelp



And as an aside, thanks to Matt@RoundPeg.  His 4 hours of personal training was 
excellent.  I highly recommend talking to him and RoundPeg if you have a 
Frame/robohelp integration  need.  Without that help, I wouldn't even be able 
to 
ask this question.  I still love webworks better, but at least now robohelp 
isn't the mystery it was.

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integration with Robohelp - graphics question

2011-04-13 Thread meg miranda 
We have a graphic that we would like to have resize with the size of the web 
page. (think corporate logo type graphic)

Is it possible to have that happen with settings in the robohelp project?

or do we have to hand edit the output files after they are completed?

Notes on our environment:
   Unstructured Frame 10
   Robohelp 9 converting to WebHelp



And as an aside, thanks to Matt at RoundPeg.  His 4 hours of personal training 
was 
excellent.  I highly recommend talking to him and RoundPeg if you have a 
Frame/robohelp integration  need.  Without that help, I wouldn't even be able 
to 
ask this question.  I still love webworks better, but at least now robohelp 
isn't the mystery it was.

thanks all,
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frame10 with Robohelp training

2011-03-11 Thread meg miranda 
We are looking for training on the best way to use Robohelp with frame 10.

Does anyone have suggestions?

thanks,
meg miranda



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frame10 with Robohelp training

2011-03-11 Thread meg miranda 
We are looking for training on the best way to use Robohelp with frame 10.

Does anyone have suggestions?

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Re: pure XML

2010-02-16 Thread meg miranda 
Just to add to the mix.  I'm noticing also that companies, irregardless of 
tool, customize their XML in some way that makes it become 'unpure'.  

The files that I authored in Epic, that I thought should have been very close 
to the open source version of XML, where unreadable by the open source 
compiler.  I had nothing fancy, just a heading, and a couple of paragraphs. 

I find it facinating.  And it feels like there is the potential for some sort 
of fancy doctoral study on this sort of thing.  How open source/industry 
standard things become customized and particular to a company or group of 
people. DocBook vs DITA included. Both are XML, but o, how different they are.

-meg



 
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:51 -0600
From: Jan Whitacre jwhi...@verizon.net
Subject: XML Output  from FrameMaker not Pure XML?
 I was told that the XML output from FrameMaker was not ?pure XML,?...that it
adds some kind of FrameMaker tagging.  


  
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pure XML

2010-02-16 Thread meg miranda 
Just to add to the mix.? I'm noticing also that companies, irregardless of 
tool, customize their XML in some way that makes it become 'unpure'.? 

The files that I authored in Epic, that I thought should have been very close 
to the open source version of XML, where unreadable by the open source 
compiler.? I had nothing fancy, just a heading, and a couple of paragraphs. 

I find it facinating.? And it feels like there is the potential for some sort 
of fancy doctoral study on this sort of thing.? How open source/industry 
standard things become customized and particular to a company or group of 
people. DocBook vs DITA included. Both are XML, but o, how different they are.

-meg



?
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:51 -0600
From: Jan Whitacre 
Subject: XML Output? from FrameMaker not Pure XML?
?I was told that the XML output from FrameMaker was not ?pure XML,?...that it
adds some kind of FrameMaker tagging.?

Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-23 Thread meg miranda 
Another way to replace a para tag throughout a book involves using mif files 
and maybe some scripting.

1. Make mif versions of all your book files.
2. Identify the para tag string text that you want to replace. For ex. 
'Heading2'.
3. Identify the para tag string you want to replace it with. For ex. 'Heading1'.
4. Either write a script to iterate through the files and replace the para or 
open each mif file in a text editor (not frame) and do a search/replace.

I've been writing/formatting web services operations lately, and this sort of 
trick has saved me countless hours.

If you have access to WebWorks 2003, UNIX, and perl, I can help with more 
details on efficiently doing this sort of change for a doc set.

cheers,
Meg


  
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Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-20 Thread meg miranda 
Another way to replace a para tag throughout a book involves using mif files 
and maybe some scripting.

1. Make mif versions of all your book files.
2. Identify the para tag string text that you want to replace. For ex. 
'Heading2'.
3. Identify the para tag string you want to replace it with. For ex. 'Heading1'.
4. Either write a script to iterate through the files and replace the para or 
open each mif file in a text editor (not frame) and do a search/replace.

I've been writing/formatting web services operations lately, and this sort of 
trick has saved me countless hours.

If you have access to WebWorks 2003, UNIX, and perl, I can help with more 
details on efficiently doing this sort of change for a doc set.

cheers,
Meg

Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help

2008-11-28 Thread meg miranda 
Verner,

I think your issue may be easy to solve.  But I'd try a couple of things:

1) (optimal if it works)  You can exclude chapters from your webWorks project 
so that your online help works. And theory is that you can use WebWorks to 
define what variables are showing and which are not.  Therefore, you should be 
able to maintain one singular book file, and let WebWorks help you take care of 
the logic needed to define your online content. 

if the variable thing in WebWorks is tricky or not stable in your tests :
2) Set your variables in the frame book files for release 14. Create your pdf. 
Then go to WebWorks (the project where you have excluded the chapters you don't 
need for online help) generate your online help. Make sure to save backup 
copies in a clean directory of both the frame book files and all webworks 
generation and output files, zipping that to keep the size down. Then go back 
to your frame book and set the variables for release 15. Create your pdf. Then 
generate your online help.  {worked for me with WebWorks version 2003 or early 
ePublisher versions}

Either option should allow you to maintain one working book file.  

Though I'm not exactly sure what your variant a and b things are. 

-meg

Andersen, Verner Engell VEA [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:

I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.

.
.
.

I have the following output combinations:

online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a  (as either conditional text or
variables) 
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)


Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.

I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.

On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.


  
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Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help

2008-11-21 Thread meg miranda 
Verner,

I think your issue may be easy to solve.? But I'd try a couple of things:

1) (optimal if it works)? You can exclude chapters from your webWorks project 
so that your online help works. And theory is that you can use WebWorks to 
define what variables are showing and which are not.? Therefore, you should be 
able to maintain one singular book file, and let WebWorks help you take care of 
the logic needed to define your online content. 

if the variable thing in WebWorks is tricky or not stable in your tests :
2) Set your variables in the frame book files for release 14. Create your pdf. 
Then go to WebWorks (the project where you have excluded the chapters you don't 
need for online help) generate your online help. Make sure to save backup 
copies in a clean directory of both the frame book files and all webworks 
generation and output files, zipping that to keep the size down. Then go back 
to your frame book and set the variables for release 15. Create your pdf. Then 
generate your online help.? {worked for me?with WebWorks version 2003 or early 
ePublisher versions}

Either option should allow you to maintain one working book file.? 

Though I'm not exactly sure what your variant a and b things are. 

-meg

"Andersen, Verner Engell VEA"  asked:

I am single-sourcing 2 paper manuals and one online help in one. The
online help is implemented in Webworks Publisher where you globally can
define what conditions to hide and what to show.

. 
. 
. 

I have the following output combinations:

online + release 14
online + release 15
Paper + release 14 + variant a? (as either conditional text or
variables) 
Paper + release 15 + variant b (as either conditional text or variables)


Some of the chapters only belong to the paper manual.

I believe that the foolproof thing is to import all conditions to all
files in the book and set the whole book to the various output
combinations.

On the other and it seems a bit superfluos to have files with
conditional text definitions that are not used.

Re: ANN: Case Study: Moving from Unstructured FrameMaker to XML and Back Again

2008-10-14 Thread meg miranda 
Yes, Jack, thanks for the plug.  I've been working on making my presentation 
flow better and would be happy to hear what kinds of questions people have that 
I may be able to answer. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I'm really looking forward to LavaCon and hope to see many of you there.

cheers,
meg miranda



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ANN: Case Study: Moving from Unstructured FrameMaker to XML and Back Again

2008-10-14 Thread meg miranda 
Yes, Jack, thanks for the plug.  I've been working on making my presentation 
flow better and would be happy to hear what kinds of questions people have that 
I may be able to answer. (megmiranda at yahoo.com)

I'm really looking forward to LavaCon and hope to see many of you there.

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re: Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-13 Thread meg miranda 
I ran into a bug recently where I saw no blank pages, but they appeared in a 
PDF generated using automated scripts.
Here was what happened:
template 1 ws converted to template 2 and then template 3 using Framescript.  
Somehow the framescript introduced a bug in one of the tables whereby content 
in the table was duplicated on 2 pages.  This was only apparent in the Frame 
document when you highlighted the entire table.  The table had to be deleted 
and re-created. Then the mystery page went away.
Depending on what you are using to generate online help, I could see the tool 
adding the blank page because the ending chapter paragraph tag is empty, or 
because like you say you have the doc set to print double-sided.
-meg


  
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Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-13 Thread meg miranda 
I ran into a bug recently where I saw no blank pages, but they appeared in a 
PDF generated using automated scripts.
Here was what happened:
template 1 ws converted to template 2 and then template 3 using Framescript.? 
Somehow the framescript introduced a bug in one of the tables whereby content 
in the table was duplicated on 2 pages.? This was only apparent in the Frame 
document when you highlighted the entire table.? The table had to be deleted 
and re-created. Then the mystery page went away.
Depending on what you are using to generate online help, I could see the tool 
adding the blank page because the ending chapter paragraph tag is empty, or 
because like you say you have the doc set to print double-sided.
-meg

Re: Framers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

2008-03-04 Thread meg miranda 
Mollye,

Check your character styles. And triple check the x-ref styles in both docs.

Not exactly the same issue but i did have some character style mismatch one 
time which caused my x-refs to format badly.

Outside of that I'd be happy to look at the files to help you fix it. ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED])

-meg


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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:39:10 -0600 (CST)
From: Mollye Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cross references in text insets
To: Paul Wilbraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Paul,

My results are different/vary (ugh)...
- When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear.
- When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's
Formatting, the x-refs reappear.
- Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist.

I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting
from the container doc.

Thanks for the thoughts though!

Mollye
  


  

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Framers Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

2008-03-04 Thread meg miranda 
Mollye,

Check your character styles. And triple check the x-ref styles in both docs.

Not exactly the same issue but i did have some character style mismatch one 
time which caused my x-refs to format badly.

Outside of that I'd be happy to look at the files to help you fix it. 
(megmiranda at yahoo.com)

-meg


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:39:10 -0600 (CST)
From: "Mollye Barrett" 
Subject: Re: cross references in text insets
To: "Paul Wilbraham" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <38968.67.52.221.170.1204569550.squirrel at www.itobin.com>
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Paul,

My results are different/vary (ugh)...
- When I double-click and select Update, the x-refs completely disappear.
- When I double-click, go to Settings and select Retain Source's
Formatting, the x-refs reappear.
- Then, when I double-click, select Update, the x-refs persist.

I need a bullet-proof way to update the insets globally with formatting
from the container doc.

Thanks for the thoughts though!

Mollye



  

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Webworks Publisher tables

2007-12-06 Thread meg miranda 
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:49:45 -0500
From: mulholland4 <mulholla...@gmail.com>
Subject: Webworks Publisher tables
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com.

I found that setting table size in WebWorks to 80% often resulted in better 
looking tables in my online help.

You'll need to test it out though. Depending on your output type you may want 
to go smaller than that.  And it could be something that would be easier to fix 
in your Frame template.

If you want specific help on how to find that in your version of WebWorks, let 
me know what version you are working on.

cheers,
meg miranda


  

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