It is just that kind of harm I was talking about and weak protestations
from some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been
provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. There will be
no other way of obtaining the software, and like it or not. Yes, I too
got th
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just
> money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs.
Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder *how*
much of a diff
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of
> goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost
> would have been "passed on to everybody in general".
And
Robert Lauriston wrote:
> The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was
> probably stolen some other way.
> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach
That totally depends on how good the encryption was. And, we do not kno
Robert Lauriston wrote:
> The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was
> probably stolen some other way.
> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach
That totally depends on how good the encryption was. And, we do not kno
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
> some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided
> with the means for gaining access to *our money*.
So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook?
--Milan Davidovi?
Sent from my Yost
Theresa de Valence wrote:
> One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the
> card was presented "in person," so this may help you too.
Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended
carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and h
Theresa de Valence wrote:
> One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the
> card was presented "in person," so this may help you too.
Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended
carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and h
The cost of credit card fraud is apparently not high enough that the
US credit card companies think it's worth their while to switch to a
more secure system, such as the chip and PIN cards that are standard
in Europe.
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Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft,
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charges it allows.
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number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.
h
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so
that was probably stolen some other way.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach
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On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place
with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to
be replaced.
Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I had
it set
The cost of credit card fraud is apparently not high enough that the
US credit card companies think it's worth their while to switch to a
more secure system, such as the chip and PIN cards that are standard
in Europe.
Milan Davidović wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> wrote:
> > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just
> > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs.
>
> Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationa
Milan Davidovi? wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> wrote:
> > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just
> > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs.
>
> Honestly, just asking questions; no other rati
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just
> money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs.
Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder *how*
much of a differe
Milan Davidović wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> wrote:
> > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of
> > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost
> > would have been "passed on to
Milan Davidovi? wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
> wrote:
> > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of
> > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost
> > would have been "passed on
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
> Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of
> goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost
> would have been "passed on to everybody in general".
And the
Milan Davidović [mailto:milan.li...@gmail.com] wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
> > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been
> > provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*.
> So, per the terms and conditions of your credit
Milan Davidovi? [mailto:milan.lists at gmail.com] wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield
> wrote:
> > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been
> > provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*.
> So, per the terms and conditions of your c
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
> some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided
> with the means for gaining access to *our money*.
So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook?
--Milan Davidović
Sent from my Yost
Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft,
whereas with a credit card the bank is stuck with any unauthorized
charges it allows.
Citi and probably other banks let you define a "virtual" credit card
number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.
h
It is just that kind of harm I was talking about and weak protestations
from some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been
provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. There will be
no other way of obtaining the software, and like it or not. Yes, I too
got th
On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place
> with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to
> be replaced.
>
> Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so
that was probably stolen some other way.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach
Hi, folks.
The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal
with ASAP.
My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this
is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from
American Express and just got off the phone
Hi, folks.
The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal
with ASAP.
My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this
is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from
American Express and just got off the phone
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