On 28 Apr 2008, at 12:38, Austin Meredith wrote:
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be
> discussing?
According to this report, Dell, HP, and Lenovo may continue to offer
XP under the terms of a
Tammy, Rick, Stephen,
If I'm following the thread correctly, and that could be a dubious assumption,
there appears to be a breakdown between scripting through the FDK and the need,
on FrameMaker's part, to update at some point, text insets manually.
Again, if that is something like the case, is
At 11:00 -0400 29/4/08, Lester C. Smalley wrote:
>If you can find a copy of FrameMaker 5 (e-bay, Craig's List, etc.) buy
>it for the manual; I still have the book (approx 700 pages) and it
>clearly explains a great deal of how Frame works: lots of info about
>master pages; reference pages; generat
I need to advise my group what plugin to purchase for easy mapping of
templates with different tag names.
The obvious choice is TemplateMapper.
Paragraph Tools (Silicon Prairie) is also a possibility, but it is more
limited.
I was wondering if combining Paragraph Tools with BookXRefs (Leximation)
Folks
I have a client who has about 30,000 images that need clipping paths.
Other than a manually processing each image, is there any software
that can systematically create an outline of an image, assign a
clipping path, and save it? I know of none but I thought I would ask.
I can't see ho
I found the Framemaker manual to be very confusing at first. It was
not until I used the program and figured out things myself did the
manual then make more sense.
Now the manual is the first place I go and can now make sense of what
is being explained.
Scott White
Media Production Manager
We're professional communicators, right? Can we please stop contributing
to the misuse and misunderstanding of "learning curve"?
A steep learning curve is one on which you acquire lots of knowledge (Y
axis) in a short period of time (X axis). Something that takes a long
time to learn has a shallo
Dennis and Scott make great points. I found the Adobe FrameMaker Classroom In A
Book to be a great introduction, but it wasn't really until I started
converting Word docs to FM docs and creating templates that I started to feel
comfy working in the FM environment.
One important thing for newbie
Perhaps you meant "Editorially yours"...?
LOL! You're priceless, Richard. :-)
Rene L. StephensonThere's no such thing as "good writing"?only good revising.
- Original Message
From: "Combs, Richard"
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:57:35 AM
Subject
Thank you for that lesson, Richard. I had no idea.
Deirdre
On 4/30/08, Combs, Richard wrote:
> We're professional communicators, right? Can we please stop contributing
> to the misuse and misunderstanding of "learning curve"?
>
> A steep learning curve is one on which you acquire lots of knowle
It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
"Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bryan johnson
wrote:
> let me apologize first as i'm sure this question has been asked and
> answered...
>
> What is the story concerning the frameus
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
wrote:
> It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just curious...
--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
h
Hi Stephen,
As Tammy said, we had some problems getting text insets to update
programmatically through FrameScript. The solution was code to actually
reimport the text insets. This isn't the most efficient approach, but it
works.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
As usual .. an interesting writeup on this in Wikipedia ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve
Apparently there is some disagreement over this one [according to the
author].
Cheers!
...scott
Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Thank you for that lesson, Richard. I had no idea.
>
> Deirdre
>
> Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here - that the Frame
> 5 manual was the last to be
> produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it is
> a lot better than the current
> offering (although I've not seen a FrameMaker 8 manual.)
The FrameMaker 8 manual
Hi, all,
I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out
the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes,
TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of
the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer!
One
I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my
CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an
LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming
that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls
-- not all LEDs have
Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Mike Wickham
To: Lester C. Smalley ; framers at frameusers.com;
Steve Rickaby
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker
> Les
Search the Web for "generative understanding" and "generative learning."
The problem with the common time vs. attempts vs. progress learning
curve model is that it's applied to a single simple task. It "charts"
very well, but it's not a reliable model outside a lab experiment.
Generative understa
I can't comment on the color-correctness of it .. but I recently bought
a "refurbished" (by Apple) 20" Cinema Display, and *love* it. They go
for $499 (free shipping) .. and come up from time to time on the Apple
website. I needed to get a new display adapter that supported DVI
(Radeon 9500 I b
Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last fall/winter.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic
wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
> wrote:
> > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> > "Monday"... We just don't know wh
And I think we've reached the other end of this conversation.
Ok, pretty sure that 1) I wasn't talking about charts and graphs. 2)
I was using an expression -- an idiom! -- to articulate my opinion.
3) While curves and charts and graphs do have technical meaning, that
meaning doesn't take precede
ps I forgot to stick out my tongue at the end of that message.
*pleeebt*
Deirdre
/rant
On 4/30/08, Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> And I think we've reached the other end of this conversation.
>
> Ok, pretty sure that 1) I wasn't talking about charts and graphs. 2)
> I was using an expression -- an i
>>The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't one-- at least, no
>>hard copy is included or sold
>>separately. Adobe does include a file on the CD that you can print and
>>bind yourself, but sheesh. It's
>>over 1000 pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking
>>about
One of the best books for FrameMaker that I have in my collection is: The
Masters Series: FrameMaker 6 by Thomas Neuburger. You can order this from
Amazon or http://www.twelfthnight.com/. Even though it does not cover 7 or 8
you will get a LOT of use out of this one.
Z
Mike Wickham wrote:
> > So there is no proper hyperlinked online guide either?
>
> Yes, there's online help, but it's nice to have a book you can read away
> from the computer. Also, the help files that come with various Adobe
> programs are not (in my opinion) well done. There have been countless times
> when I'
Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if
FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a
list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a
thing?
Mike McCallister
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bo
On 28 Apr 2008, at 12:38, Austin Meredith wrote:
> According to this morning's newspaper, Microsoft plans to discontinue
> its support of XP on June 30th. Is this something we should be
> discussing?
According to this report, Dell, HP, and Lenovo may continue to offer
XP under the terms of a
Tammy, Rick, Stephen,
If I'm following the thread correctly, and that could be a dubious assumption,
there appears to be a breakdown between scripting through the FDK and the need,
on FrameMaker's part, to update at some point, text insets manually.
Again, if that is something like the case, is
At 11:00 -0400 29/4/08, Lester C. Smalley wrote:
>If you can find a copy of FrameMaker 5 (e-bay, Craig's List, etc.) buy
>it for the manual; I still have the book (approx 700 pages) and it
>clearly explains a great deal of how Frame works: lots of info about
>master pages; reference pages; generat
I need to advise my group what plugin to purchase for easy mapping of
templates with different tag names.
The obvious choice is TemplateMapper.
Paragraph Tools (Silicon Prairie) is also a possibility, but it is more
limited.
I was wondering if combining Paragraph Tools with BookXRefs (Leximation)
Folks
I have a client who has about 30,000 images that need clipping paths.
Other than a manually processing each image, is there any software
that can systematically create an outline of an image, assign a
clipping path, and save it? I know of none but I thought I would ask.
I can't see ho
let me apologize first as i'm sure this question has been asked and answered...
What is the story concerning the frameusers.com site? It has been down for
weeks.
Thanks in advance.
___
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The learning curve for FrameMaker can be steep or relatively shallow,
but it depends how how deep you involve yourself and whether its an
avocation or a full-time effort. My recommendations:
1. Go for it with intensity and determination; dabbling won't work.
2. Get the previously recommended boo
I found the Framemaker manual to be very confusing at first. It was
not until I used the program and figured out things myself did the
manual then make more sense.
Now the manual is the first place I go and can now make sense of what
is being explained.
Scott White
Media Production Manager
We're professional communicators, right? Can we please stop contributing
to the misuse and misunderstanding of "learning curve"?
A steep learning curve is one on which you acquire lots of knowledge (Y
axis) in a short period of time (X axis). Something that takes a long
time to learn has a shallo
Dennis and Scott make great points. I found the Adobe FrameMaker Classroom In A
Book to be a great introduction, but it wasn't really until I started
converting Word docs to FM docs and creating templates that I started to feel
comfy working in the FM environment.
One important thing for newbie
Perhaps you meant "Editorially yours"...?
LOL! You're priceless, Richard. :-)
Rene L. StephensonThere's no such thing as "good writing"—only good revising.
- Original Message
From: "Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9
Thank you for that lesson, Richard. I had no idea.
Deirdre
On 4/30/08, Combs, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're professional communicators, right? Can we please stop contributing
> to the misuse and misunderstanding of "learning curve"?
>
> A steep learning curve is one on which you acq
It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
"Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bryan johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> let me apologize first as i'm sure this question has been asked and
> answered...
>
> What is the story con
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just curious...
--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmi
Hi Stephen,
As Tammy said, we had some problems getting text insets to update
programmatically through FrameScript. The solution was code to actually
reimport the text insets. This isn't the most efficient approach, but it
works.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
As usual .. an interesting writeup on this in Wikipedia ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve
Apparently there is some disagreement over this one [according to the
author].
Cheers!
...scott
Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> Thank you for that lesson, Richard. I had no idea.
>
> Deirdre
>
> Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here - that the Frame
> 5 manual was the last to be
> produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it is
> a lot better than the current
> offering (although I've not seen a FrameMaker 8 manual.)
The FrameMaker 8 manual
Hi, all,
I recently had the fun experience of having lightning strike. It blew out
the phone and cable lines, and took out computers, all the network boxes,
TVs, and lots of other electronic equipment. Some jacks were blown out of
the walls and even knobs got blown off of a clothes dryer!
One
I've been shopping too, although just fro general upgrade because my
CRTs are near the end of their lives. The key thing to look for is an
LCD that supports a wide color space -- as close to AdobeRGB (assuming
that's your default) as possible. And also look at the menu controls
-- not all LEDs have
Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Mike Wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Lester C. Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Rickaby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Search the Web for "generative understanding" and "generative learning."
The problem with the common time vs. attempts vs. progress learning
curve model is that it's applied to a single simple task. It "charts"
very well, but it's not a reliable model outside a lab experiment.
Generative understa
I can't comment on the color-correctness of it .. but I recently bought
a "refurbished" (by Apple) 20" Cinema Display, and *love* it. They go
for $499 (free shipping) .. and come up from time to time on the Apple
website. I needed to get a new display adapter that supported DVI
(Radeon 9500 I b
Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last fall/winter.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up
> >
And I think we've reached the other end of this conversation.
Ok, pretty sure that 1) I wasn't talking about charts and graphs. 2)
I was using an expression -- an idiom! -- to articulate my opinion.
3) While curves and charts and graphs do have technical meaning, that
meaning doesn't take precede
ps I forgot to stick out my tongue at the end of that message.
*pleeebt*
Deirdre
/rant
On 4/30/08, Deirdre Reagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I think we've reached the other end of this conversation.
>
> Ok, pretty sure that 1) I wasn't talking about charts and graphs. 2)
> I was using an
>>The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't one-- at least, no
>>hard copy is included or sold
>>separately. Adobe does include a file on the CD that you can print and
>>bind yourself, but sheesh. It's
>>over 1000 pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking
>>about
One of the best books for FrameMaker that I have in my collection is: The
Masters Series: FrameMaker 6 by Thomas Neuburger. You can order this from
Amazon or http://www.twelfthnight.com/. Even though it does not cover 7 or 8
you will get a LOT of use out of this one.
Z
Mike Wickham <[EMAIL
> > So there is no proper hyperlinked online guide either?
>
> Yes, there's online help, but it's nice to have a book you can read away
> from the computer. Also, the help files that come with various Adobe
> programs are not (in my opinion) well done. There have been countless times
> when I'
Mike:
> At one time, LCDs were not supposed to be good enough for this purpose, but
> that seems to have changed. Is anyone still selling CRTs for this purpose,
> or are LCDs by LaCie, Eizo, and others the only options now? I'm not against
> LCDs-- and would actually prefer one, if not outrageousl
Sorry everybody. The point I was trying to make that LCD/LED monitors
have "individual LED backlights for each pixel". Because the LED is
already a coloured primary light source of greater purity than a fluoro
backlight + colour filter can produce, you get a greater gamut. And,
because the L
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