The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-07 Thread Alan Litchfield
It is just that kind of harm I was talking about and weak protestations from some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. There will be no other way of obtaining the software, and like it or not. Yes, I too got

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, folks. The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal with ASAP. My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from American Express and just got off the

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2013-10-06 Thread Alan Litchfield
It is just that kind of harm I was talking about and weak protestations from some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. There will be no other way of obtaining the software, and like it or not. Yes, I too got

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2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook? --Milan Davidović

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2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidović [mailto:milan.li...@gmail.com] wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions

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2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost would have been passed on to everybody in

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2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder

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2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidović milan.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just

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2013-10-06 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to be replaced. Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I had it

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2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was probably stolen some other way. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as

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2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft, whereas with a credit card the bank is stuck with any unauthorized charges it allows. Citi and probably other banks let you define a virtual credit card number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.

RE: The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Theresa de Valence wrote: One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the card was presented in person, so this may help you too. Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, folks. The Adobe credit card compromise issue may be something you all want to deal with ASAP. My son did indeed receive an e-mail from Adobe about the breach. HOWEVER, this is the most important thing. This morning, I received a fraud alert from American Express and just got off the

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been provided > with the means for gaining access to *our money*. So, per the terms and conditions of your credit card, you're on the hook? --Milan Davidovi? Sent from my

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? [mailto:milan.lists at gmail.com] wrote: > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Alan Litchfield > wrote: > > some does not thing to reduce the effect of criminals who have been > > provided with the means for gaining access to *our money*. > So, per the terms and conditions of your

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost > would have been "passed on to everybody in general". And

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? wrote: >On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > wrote: > > Without this, the crooks *would* have made off with those $1000 worth of > > goods - even though I would NOT have been personally liable. And that cost > > would have been "passed

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Milan Davidović
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. Honestly, just asking questions; no other rationale; I wonder *how* much of a

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Milan Davidovi? wrote: > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > wrote: > > That added cost would be smaller per person/account than the cost (not just > > money) of dealing with the resulting fraud costs. > > Honestly, just asking questions; no other

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 10/6/2013 11:04 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Three charges were attempted today on the card that I had in place > with Adobe - fortunately, all were rejected and the card now has to > be replaced. > > Which means I have to run around and change it everywhere that I

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The cost of credit card fraud is apparently not high enough that the US credit card companies think it's worth their while to switch to a more secure system, such as the chip and PIN cards that are standard in Europe.

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was probably stolen some other way. http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Using a debit card could leave you liable for any losses due to theft, whereas with a credit card the bank is stuck with any unauthorized charges it allows. Citi and probably other banks let you define a "virtual" credit card number for a particular merchant and restrict charges to that number.

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Theresa de Valence wrote: > One thing that did help, the bank card agreed to accept the old card, if the > card was presented "in person," so this may help you too. Good point. I forgot to mention that the American Express guy recommended carrying my old card too (since I booked the flight and

The Adobe credit card issue may indeed be a major issue - PLEASE READ - URGENT

2013-10-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: > The credit card numbers in the hacked Adobe data were encrypted, so that was > probably stolen some other way. > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/10/adobe-to-announce-source-code-customer-data-breach That totally depends on how good the encryption was. And, we do not