Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Danny Bloemendaal
On 26 okt 2008, at 22:42, Alexander Limi wrote: Hi team, There's been a lot of activity and excitement about Plone 4 after the Plone Conference, and I'd like for us to start moving on the development for it. Hanno Schlichting has said that he'd like to be the release manager for Plone

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve McMahon wrote: Here are my 3.3 PLIP tallies as of 5:45 2008-10-28 (UTC). These include some unambiguous votes pulled from e-mail messages to the FWT list. Can this be turned into a result? What I would like to have is a list of PLIPs, with for each plip the result

[Framework-Team] Plip 245?

2008-10-28 Thread Danny Bloemendaal
Is it correct that http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/245 hasn't been officially proposed for 3.3? I can't remember we discussed it though. Danny ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Steve McMahon wrote: Here are my 3.3 PLIP tallies as of 5:45 2008-10-28 (UTC). These include some unambiguous votes pulled from e-mail messages to the FWT list. Can this be turned into a result? i'd say not yet. i'm aware

Re: [Framework-Team] Plip 245?

2008-10-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: Is it correct that http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/245 hasn't been officially proposed for 3.3? I can't remember we discussed it though. afaict (scanning the archives) it's never been proposed to the framework team list, which

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 234: Standardizing our use of INavigationRoot

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: hi team, afaict PLIP 234[1] was never proposed to the framework team list. technically we require this in order to consider a PLIP, or at least we repeatedly asked PLIP authors to announce their PLIPs here so we're aware of them. seeing that this particular PLIP has

[Framework-Team] Re: Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. Alexander Limi wrote: Hanno Schlichting has said that he'd like to be the release manager for Plone 4, and I'd like to formally propose him as a candidate for this role. Over the last couple of months, I have been considering to step up for the release manager job and have gotten positive

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Steve McMahon wrote: Here are my 3.3 PLIP tallies as of 5:45 2008-10-28 (UTC). These include some unambiguous votes pulled from e-mail messages to the FWT list. Can this be turned into a result? i'd say

Re: [Framework-Team] Plip 245?

2008-10-28 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:33, Danny Bloemendaal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it correct that http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/245 hasn't been officially proposed for 3.3? I can't remember we discussed it though. Correct; the author only announced it on plone-developers as a PLIP for a

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 246: View for rendering events as an iCalendar file

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Alexander Limi wrote: Hi Framework Team, On behalf of Andreas Zeidler, I'd like to offer up the following PLIP for your consideration for Plone 3.3: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/246 It's a pretty trivial PLIP that adds a new view that is capable of rendering events as an

[Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Ricardo Alves
Hi framework team, I'm sorry I didnt' comment on the previous discussion about PLIP #244, but I wasn't subscribing this list. Anyway, I'd like to comment on some of the objections already posted in the PLIP page. About the usefulness of site-wide portlets, let me give an example: you have a

Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Alan Runyan
+1 to Hanno/Martin being Plone 4 release manager/communicator -- Alan Runyan Enfold Systems, Inc. http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ phone: +1.713.942.2377x111 fax: +1.832.201.8856 ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187: Working out-of-the-box WebDAV

2008-10-28 Thread Alan Runyan
Andreas, Please confirm, the outstanding questions are: - Wichert asking, How are the marshallers configured via GenericSetup This is a great question. - Ricardo asking, how the OS X resource fork issue was resolved. We should not focus on how a certain platform works

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
steve, here's the tally of my remaining plips: 126 +1 228 +1 236 -1 238 +1 239 +1 240 +1 241 +1 242 -1 243 +1 244 -1 247 +1 i've posted the votes and their motivations at the plips, but not on the list. cheers, tom On 28.10.2008, at 11:21, Tom Lazar wrote: yes, sorry for holding things

Re: [Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
On 28.10.2008, at 11:53, Ricardo Alves wrote: Hi framework team, I'm sorry I didnt' comment on the previous discussion about PLIP #244, but I wasn't subscribing this list. Anyway, I'd like to comment on some of the objections already posted in the PLIP page. About the usefulness of

Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
On 28.10.2008, at 13:03, Alan Runyan wrote: +1 to Hanno/Martin being Plone 4 release manager/communicator same here! tom -- Alan Runyan Enfold Systems, Inc. http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ phone: +1.713.942.2377x111 fax: +1.832.201.8856 ___

[Framework-Team] plans/schedule for 3.3?

2008-10-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi wichert, just as a reminder: do you already have any thoughts regarding the schedule for 3.2 and/or 3.3? like discussed before, we should better try to set these up together in the future... ;) cheers, andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Oct 28, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Steve McMahon wrote: Here are my 3.3 PLIP tallies as of 5:45 2008-10-28 (UTC). These include some unambiguous votes pulled from e-mail messages to the FWT

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Oct 28, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i've posted the votes and their motivations at the plips, but not on the list. thanks tom! and the PLIP pages are fine — they are the canonical source of information, at least for 3.x with x = 3. andi -- zeidler it consulting -

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 237 for Plone 3.3 - Minor i18n upgrades

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. I'd like to propose to accept PLIP 237 - Minor i18n upgrades for Plone 3.3. The full text is at http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/237. Short version: Ship PloneLanguageTool 2.1 instead of 2.0 and PlacelessTranslationService 1.5 instead of 1.4 with Plone 3.3.

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 228: Restore 'Add Item..' menu on all pages

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I guess I'm the first one. I want to propose PLIP 228 for Plone 3.3. I feel that removing the removal of the 'Add Item' dropdown in many places in Plone 3 is a regression in behaviour, and makes adding content a lot more cumbersome. The PLIP has so far only received

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Motivation -- I suspect that by now most of us have realized that the current inline editing behaviour in Plone 3 is not very practical. It has two main problems: * it is very easily triggered by

Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:45, Raphael Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 on both of them. Indeed! -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Alec Mitchell
Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix that though, it's just another regression to work around what many consider a real UI bug. Alec On Tue, Oct

[Framework-Team] Draft Call for Team Membership Applications

2008-10-28 Thread Steve McMahon
DRAFT Call for Plone 4.x Framework Team Members Would you like to help choose what goes into Plone 4? The Plone Framework team is now receiving applications for membership in the Plone 4 Framework Team. The Framework Team will be responsible for evaluating the PLone Improvement Proposals

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Alan Runyan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix that though, it's just another

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alan Runyan wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix

Re: [Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ricardo Alves wrote: Hi framework team, I'm sorry I didnt' comment on the previous discussion about PLIP #244, but I wasn't subscribing this list. Anyway, I'd like to comment on some of the objections already posted in the PLIP page. About the usefulness of site-wide

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3 PLIP Recommendations

2008-10-28 Thread Steve McMahon
Here are the 3.3 PLIP Recommendations. A vote breakdown is attached in PDF. Steve === 126: Link type should automatically redirect when accessed directly Accepted 187: Working Out-of-the-box WebDAV Accepted 197: Add FeedParser as external requirement Accepted 228: Restore 'Add

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187: Working out-of-the-box WebDAV

2008-10-28 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Oct 28, 2008, at 5:20 AM, Alan Runyan wrote: Andreas, Please confirm, the outstanding questions are: - Wichert asking, How are the marshallers configured via GenericSetup This is a great question. - Ricardo asking, how the OS X resource fork issue was resolved. We should not

Re: [Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Ricardo Alves
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Ricardo Alves wrote: Hi framework team, I'm sorry I didnt' comment on the previous discussion about PLIP #244, but I wasn't subscribing this list. Anyway, I'd like to comment on some of the objections already posted in the PLIP page. About the usefulness

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187: Working out-of-the-box WebDAV

2008-10-28 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Oct 28, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Alan Runyan wrote: If the OSX webdav support was dropped from this PLIP, then perhaps the PLIP should be updated to make that clear. At the moment, it clearly suggests that the OSX behavior was specifically targeted. I will leave that up to Sidnei. Having a

Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Jon Stahl
Tom Lazar wrote: On 28.10.2008, at 13:03, Alan Runyan wrote: +1 to Hanno/Martin being Plone 4 release manager/communicator same here! I couldn't possibly imagine two more qualified people. Three cheers for you both! :-) :jon ___