Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread Carlileb
In a message dated 2/17/2012 10:01:56 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, djte...@gmail.com writes: And if you think things might get 'better,' I think you're kidding yourself. Because this is all about forces that are much larger than our little experimental film scene and have been rolling

[Frameworks] TODAY 18:45 | urban research program III | Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved!

2012-02-18 Thread Klaus W. Eisenlohr
URBAN RESEARCH AT DIRECTORS LOUNGE urban research special Saturday, 18 February 18:00 starting on time! Adam Kossoff UK Moscow Diary 46 min 30 2010 urban research program III: Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved! Saturday, 18 February 18:45

[Frameworks] The Horizontal Scratches.

2012-02-18 Thread ben russell
Frameworkers, I just received a mess of telecine'd color super16mm footage from the lab and was more than a bit sad to see a long parade of emulsion-side horizontal blue scratches on the right 1/4th of the frame. I shot about 2.5 hours of footage with an Aaton Minima (a camera I wouldn't really

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread Chuck Kleinhans
Tetzlaff's remarks are not cynical, but realistic. Most of us who have lived through the period he outlines know that it's true. One element he doesn't account for is that experimental film screenings, as events, are significant art world social experiences. And where we still find regular

Re: [Frameworks] TODAY 18:45 | urban research program III | Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved!

2012-02-18 Thread Krista Strobel
T On 2/18/12, Klaus W. Eisenlohr kl...@richfilm.de wrote: URBAN RESEARCH AT DIRECTORS LOUNGE urban research special Saturday, 18 February 18:00 starting on time! Adam Kossoff UK Moscow Diary 46 min 30 2010 urban research program III: Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved!

Re: [Frameworks] TODAY 18:45 | urban research program III | Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved!

2012-02-18 Thread Krista Strobel
On 2/18/12, Klaus W. Eisenlohr kl...@richfilm.de wrote: URBAN RESEARCH AT DIRECTORS LOUNGE urban research special Saturday, 18 February 18:00 starting on time! Adam Kossoff UK Moscow Diary 46 min 30 2010 urban research program III: Activismo Experimental: Artists Involved!

Re: [Frameworks] E6 Kit_Re-exposure

2012-02-18 Thread Krista Strobel
T On 2/17/12, Ken Paul Rosenthal kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com wrote: Nicky, Are these the same kits we're talking about? You mentioned re-exposure at one point, but the current Tetenal four bath one litre kit: 1st Dev, Blix, 2nd Dev, Stabiliser, does not require re-exposure. This is the one I

Re: [Frameworks] E6 Kit_Re-exposure

2012-02-18 Thread nicky . hamlyn
Thanks for the info: I'm no expert on chemistry! Nicky. -Original Message- From: Ken Paul Rosenthal kenpaulrosent...@hotmail.com To: Frameworks Postings frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 4:21 Subject: [Frameworks] E6 Kit_Re-exposure Nicky, Are these the

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread Walter Ungerer
David, Well done, well said. David, I found your summation very comforting, not because of its prediction, but because it states clearly the situation at hand for us all to recognize. Recognition is the beginning of the way to a solution to my mind. Thanks. Walter Ungerer From: David

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Tom Whiteside
A silent musical comedy? Is there an optical soundtrack? Nitrate was common up until the early 50's, way past the silent era. If I were you I'd get rid of it. A funky looking roll of nitrate is no joke. But it sounds like it might be worthwhile to photograph those stalagmites on the reel. Just

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Dennis Doros
Dear Kristie, In the case of nitrate (or any deteriorating film), it's always worth talking to your local archive. In your case, that would be the Pacific Film Archive and the best contact there would be Kathy Geritz. Best regards, Dennis Doros Milestone Film Video/Milliarium Zero PO Box 128

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread Tom Whiteside
Wow this is harsh and somewhat ridiculous. This reply, below, is the cynical one. David has it absolutely right, his assessment rings true and it is based in real world experience, not some pouting ideology. And he is a teacher, so I do hope he is one who cares what students think today. Jeez

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread Beebe,Roger W
One of the things that I find curious is that you can rent a film print for a fraction of the cost of renting a video copy. We were tracking down titles for the curated shows at FLEXfest 2012 (which starts tonight, by the way), and we discovered that we could get John Smith's Associations from

[Frameworks] Part 2 of 2: This week [February 18 - 26, 2012] in avant garde cinema

2012-02-18 Thread Weekly Listing
Part 2 of 2: This week [February 18 - 26, 2012] in avant garde cinema - FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2012 - 2/24 Austin, TX: Experimental Response Cinema http://www.hi-beam.net/erc 7pm, Arthouse at the Jones Center, 700 Congress Ave. FILMS AND VIDEOS BY

[Frameworks] Part 1 of 2: This week [February 18 - 26, 2012] in avant garde cinema

2012-02-18 Thread Weekly Listing
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Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Tarık Aktaş
Hi, It might be risky to work with this film. Does it smell and is it already dissolving? If it just the metal casing then there should be no problem. I have restorated nitrate films from late Ottoman but they were kept in good condition and in new cases. If you can send a picture of it, the case

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Tarık Aktaş
Contacting a local film archive is the best thing. Its too dangerous to keep a nitrate if you don't have the right conditions. Still too risky if you have. There are ways of getting rid (destroy in a safe way) of a nitrate but you need someone experienced. I don't recommend transporting it.

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Dennis Doros
Nitrate film can be dangerous, but if the film is in good condition, the dangers that the press talk about are greatly exaggerated. There is a great deal of nitrate film that has lasted over 100 years. If the reel of film looks like a solid hockey puck, is glue like or there's a great deal of dust

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread scott
David has said the obvious--the "writing on the wall..."But hopefully, Canyon can find ways to stay viable--the idea that the most dependable distributor of 16mm prints of avant-garde films should be allowed to go out of business continues to seem to me a cultural disaster, and an unnecessary one.

[Frameworks] Tonight: Ken Jacobs films and 3D at Microscope Gallery in Brooklyn 7PM

2012-02-18 Thread LBurchill
*We Are Cinema: Ken Jacobs* *Saturday February 18, 7PM* Admission $6 – Artist in Person reservation recommended at at r...@microscopegallery.com In connection with the “We Are Cinema: 50 Years of the Film-Makers’ Cooperative” exhibit at Microscope Gallery, legendary filmmaker Ken Jacobs presents

[Frameworks] What is to be done? was canyon in the news

2012-02-18 Thread David Tetzlaff
I genuinely hope we can have a discussion, starting with the question of 'what really matters?' I have my own thoughts, but I want to hear what other people think and see if maybe some new ideas might emerge, you know, in dialogue. Why is 'experimental film' important? Why does 'the world' need

Re: [Frameworks] What is to be done? was canyon in the news

2012-02-18 Thread Matt Helme
People are not renting films or going to the theater in numbers that will help sustain these organizations, and i don't think we can turn back the tide.Don't mean to be so down, but i think we all know this. Matt http://www.youtube.com/user/oscarthepug1234

Re: [Frameworks] canyon in the news (bad news dept)

2012-02-18 Thread David Tetzlaff
I am beginning to look into the creation of (don't know what to call it) a consortium of colleges, universities, archives, etcetera--places that want to continue to have the option to show prints--who would, in addition to paying rentals for screening individual films, pay an annual fee to

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread John Woods
While its certainly flammable and should be treated with caution I think there is a lot of misinformation about the danger of nitrate film and people are equating it with nitroglycerin. As shown in this thread there are more occurrences of people storing this nitrate film 'improperly' for

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Steven Gladstone
On 2/18/12 5:55 PM, John Woods wrote: While its certainly flammable and should be treated with caution I think there is a lot of misinformation about the danger of nitrate film http://www.horschamp.qc.ca/new_offscreen/dangerous_film.html My Uncle was a Union projectionist back in the day -

Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?

2012-02-18 Thread Dennis Doros
If the film looks to be in good shape, there is nothing to worry about. (My first reel of nitrate I took on the bus to NYC.) But I would call up the archives first, see who wants it, and arrange on where to meet there. As for nitrate films catching fire in projection booths, fire was actually the

Re: [Frameworks] The Horizontal Scratches.

2012-02-18 Thread John Woods
A horizontal scratch? Unusual! Please send me the link. Are you attempting to source the issue for an insurance claim? Since it seems to be related to the starting and stopping of the camera it does not sound like a lab problem (and the lab snips a few feet off the head of every roll to cover

[Frameworks] Kodachrome

2012-02-18 Thread matthew brown
Hello, I recently received some Kodachrome that belonged to my great grandmother and is very much past expiration date. It is regular 8mm, I have two reels, one says develop before 1948 and the other 1955. I was wondering if there were any labs that might still process the kodachrome...preferably

Re: [Frameworks] Kodachrome

2012-02-18 Thread John Woods
http://www.filmrescue.com/ I think they are the only game in town, they are in Canada but have a U.S. mail box and they can only get a BW negative image from the film. From: matthew brown matthewfrancisbr...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

[Frameworks] ECN-2 Process

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Higgins
Hi, Anyone tried the ECN-2 process? I believe it's quite complex, is there any alternative processing techniques. Super 8mm Colour Neg. Regards, Michael - Michael Higgins +353 85 719 6983 http://www.mgmh.me ___ FrameWorks mailing list