Has anyone seen this?
https://medium.com/@soleri/sexual-abuse-its-you-him-and-his-work-88ecb8e99648
It speaks to the issues of abuse versus "great artist"
Michael Betancourt
Savannah, GA USA
michaelbetancourt.com | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
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I thought Green Eggs and Ham was better.
You seem to see some connection between warning the soldiers of an occupying
army not to fraternize with the locals and sexual harassment of filmmakers? Or
are filmmakers the harassers?
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Francisco Torres
There have been male victims of sexual violence through history. Let's
keep that in mind. Like Spacey's victims.
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I said all filmmakers, all genders. I am serious about the personal
defense issue. And you should watch the film, is on utube and the int.
Archive. It was written by Dr. Seuss. After watching it please tell me
what you think about it.
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Asking for myself
I’m not clear if this is supposed to be ironic/sarcastic, or what. And does
“filmmakers” here refer to only male filmmakers? Or all filmmakers, regardless
of gender, etc.?
“Your Job in Germany” according to Wiki: "The movie was produced by the US Army
Signal Corps. It was
I would suggest to all filmmakers to take personal defense lessons and
to be vigilant at all times. Also look for the film Your job in
Germany (1945) to learn how to deal with the world we all living in
today. The new normal.
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All quiet in the Western Front.
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Don't know if you all saw this article in *Hyperallergic. *Its related,
however on a wider spectrum of artists:
I agree with Amanda,
"naming aggressors should come from the people who have personally been
hurt by them…" - and only by them. I agree, that one should
"make sure to be careful about who gets to tell their own stories." Also,
repeating hearsay is obviously not acceptable.
But beyond that -
Thank you for your observations on the role of scholarship in creating centered
spaces for auteurs Evan.
When female filmmakers voices are centered, when I as a woman don’t have to
decrypt and explain what is perfectly clear to me — I was raised literate in a
male visual vocabulary (as is
Hi Amanda, Evan & Sam and everyone else
Some excellent points have been raised all around.
Why are there no great women (Asian, black, Latinx etc..) film artists on
lists that purport to name the greatest of all time?
What is the purpose of outing offenders?(Amanda made great points about
Fred,
While I agree is a lot more complicated of a situation. I was writing out a
whole long response talking about Gauguin, Picasso, and other toxic male
artists among other things when I decided to revisit your website and noticed a
few things:
1) your list of what you consider the greatest
Sum Bodi and Evan Greene,
In making the initial post on this discussion thread, I was thinking of the
general topic of sexual harassment, not calling out individual people. I think
the discussion has tended to go that way, broadening out at times to discuss
sexism in general in the
Evan,
You make important points, but this situation is perhaps more
complicated than you realize. There are also reasonable differences of
opinion about the extent to which the bad behavior of an artist in life
should affect attitudes toward the art. Many think bad behavior
invalidates the
I didn't attend film school, but art school in the 70s. The male teachers
were all dating their students. I'll admit I slept with my painting
teacher, not to get a good grade because I was the best painter in the
class... just because. At first he asked me what grade I wanted. Then when
we began
Fred,
As a young person just beginning to venture into the experimental film world I
find your unwillingness to name names rather troublesome. Your writing in the
past year has been an invaluable resource for me. But knowingly letting these
disgusting people and their art continue to garner
Fred,
As a young person just beginning to venture into the experimental film
world I find your unwillingness to name names rather troublesome. Your
writing in the past year has been an invaluable resource for me. But
knowingly letting these disgusting people and their art continue to garner
the
Amazing, but unfortunately not that big of a surprise. It supports my
point that no group should feel holier than thou, or immune from all the
badness. (Take, for example, priests, oh, wait, let's not...)
I have to admit I do not understand the psychology at work here -- what
pleasure could
I will give an anecdote about this very listserv: I was very severely
sexually harassed as a college student posting about a film screening in
2008. It was for a well-known experimental filmmaker. The response to my
post involved "oh, you don't know what you're talking about and I bet you
can
Well, I would say it has the appearance of a media fiasco.
By the way, I got the unemployment benefits I was being denied! Minimum
enrollment for adjuncts went up, classes were cancelled, and I received
adjunct offers at two different locations. I decided not to take the
better paying
Hi all,
Of course anything can happen in any domain, whether in a university
or in a community film lab. No community is immune from people who
use their position of authority inappropriately. I'm sure Fred is
right about filmmakers exhibiting inappropriate behavior, and I'm
sure filmmakers
Thanks, Chuck and Pip, for starting the discussion on this. I recommend
looking at this article by Mary Celeste Kearney, Guest Post: How Film
Schools Lead to Pipelines Full of Weinsteins:
This utopian view of experimental cinema seems to me to be incorrect.
Some of those I would call the very greatest experimental filmmakers
were also sexual harassers. Remember that many filmmakers had a position
of profesorship, which certainly conveys an aura of authority, or other
positions
interesting perspective pip…
sadly, sexual harassment and assault do not only result from the hierarchical
power structures of industrial or commercial productions…
nor are they limited to territoriality and competition….
sometimes, these things can happen precisely because we are working
Asking for a friend? Hilarious subject line.
I think experiemental film's freedom comes from its marginality.
In this business there is no money or power because these films are
outside the film industry and outside the art market. There is only
passion, sharing, and working in cooperative
Given the proliferation of items in the news about sexual harassment in the
film industry, and entertainment, and politics and academe, etc. why is this
listserv so quiet on these issues? Nothing to report?
Chuck Kleinhans
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