Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: If it is to be counted as my only achivement on -core that I timed out SLICE and DEVFS, I'll still be proud of what I did there. Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because most of the shortcomings of devfs and SLICE had been solved and all I was waiting for was the CAM

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Your MUA wraps incorrectly. On Friday, 17 August 2001 at 9:16:59 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Julian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because most of the shortcomings of devfs and SLICE had been solved and all I was waiting for was the CAM

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Julian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because most of the shortcomings of devfs and SLICE had been

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Julian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 16 August 2001 at 6:36:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 19:17:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: the lack of subdirectory support is a

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: ls -la /dev/fd What am I supposed to see there? I get three character devices, all mounted on /dev directly. Uhm, have you forgotten how ls(1) works ? No. Try this then: ls -lad /dev/fd /dev/fd/[012] Hmm. Strange. Last time

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 16 August 2001 at 6:36:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: In view of the fact that this thread is about deficiencies in your devfs, this is particularly uncalled for. One of the reasons

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: After 3 years I gave up on the hope that it would ever be fixed well enough to become politically acceptable. After 6 years I removed it. A quick script run on the cvs tree paints this picture of number of commits to src/sys/miscfs/devfs

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: A quick script run on the cvs tree paints this picture of number of commits to src/sys/miscfs/devfs per year: julian phk other 199556 3 15 199620

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: A quick script run on the cvs tree paints this picture of number of commits to src/sys/miscfs/devfs per year: julian phk other 199556

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: A quick script run on the cvs tree paints this picture of number of commits to src/sys/miscfs/devfs per year: julian phk other 199556

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Boris Popov
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Julian feels he has no avenue of recourse and gives up..-- if (!strcmp(DEVFS, SLICE)) return (ECONFUSED); Julian, you had four years, during which you didn't even manage to make half of the commits made to the DEVFS code

RE: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-15 Thread Brandon (home)
[snip] And in general, can we stop the high incidence of mud-slinging we've seen on the lists lately? Here, here! Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 19:17:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: the lack of subdirectory support is a pitty. There is support for subdirectories: ls -la /dev/fd What am I