Thompson, Jimi wrote:
From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many
people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying
FreeBSD
because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted
by a
devil.
Why should The FreeBSD pr
It would be whatever you used in the disklabel run (or the one done
for you if you use sysinstall). 'd' is unlikely and so is 'c'
d is highly likely and is what you get if you use sysinstall in 5.x. I
have about 25 drives with a d partition.
d certainly is unlikely in 4.x
c will appear in the
Joshua Lewis wrote:
/dev/ad1s1 what? a, d, e, f,g ??
Do I specify? I am using the whole drive. should I change it to /dev/ad1s1a?
Thank you,
Joshua Lewis
Anubis
Joshua Lewis wrote:
The last time I edited this file my system ceased to boot. I have made
what
looks to me like a valid entry. This
Joshua Lewis wrote:
The last time I edited this file my system ceased to boot. I have made what
looks to me like a valid entry. This is the same thing I entered in last
time. I am not going to save this but does it look valid to anyone out there?
# DeviceMountpoint FStype O
On Tue, 25 May 2004 9:56 am, Warren Block wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2004, Joachim Dagerot wrote:
> > The man page for dump states this:
> >
> > []
> > -B records
> > The number of kilobytes per output volume, except that if it is
> > not an integer multiple of the output block size, the command
On Fri, 21 May 2004 2:15 am, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> After seeing the results you got, I'm going to adopt that as my new
> .sig. Thanks for the tip!
>--
>Kirk Strauser
>i'm 16 by the way - sexy brittany spears
LOL Love it!
my new sig
Im 37 by the way - Sexy Aria Giovanni
Will only make people
On Sat, 15 May 2004 8:26 am, Mark wrote:
> I installed my new FreeBSD 4.9R on my new ASUS KV8 Deluxe board.
> Everything work fine... except, FreeBSD cannot find the third
> harddisk! (the third IDE, as master on the third IDE port).
>
> How do I enable it? Or make FreeBSD see it? (please, please,
On Sun, 9 May 2004 3:17 am, w sx wrote:
> Thank you! I used atacontrol to set it until I
> rebooted... and after a reboot.. its detected
> correctly.
>
> --- Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > w sx wrote:
> > > Does anyone have any tips on getting the CDRW
> >
> > drive
> >
> > > set to UD
On Thu, 6 May 2004 10:36 pm, JJB wrote:
> The official 4.10 schedule says 4.10 stable release was scheduled
> for May 5.
> The FTP sites still have RC2 and the 4.10 to-do list talks about
> RC3.
> Anybody from the release team care to comment on what is the holdup
> and when 4.10 going to be updat
On Wed, 5 May 2004 10:38 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Michael Conlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Any ideas what would cause the df -k and du -k discrepancy?
>
> FAQ entry:
>"The du and df commands show different amounts of disk space
> available. What is going on?"
> http://www.freebsd.org/d
On Tue, 4 May 2004 3:01 pm, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
> Is the referenced NIC comptable under 5.1? My understanding was
> "yes" from reading the hardware notes (datasheet is here:
> http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/resources/doc_library/dat
>a_sheets/pro1000mt_sa_dual.pdf) but it seems my system
On Tue, 4 May 2004 12:36 am, Reuben A. Popp wrote:
> Morning all,
>
Could be the board if both drives appear busted.
It could be the o/s. My 5.2.1 system has been getting similar errors
and halting.
See if maxtor has a drive checking utility. Some manufacturers like
seagate have a utility
> Does any one have Company-wide (LAN) Data Storage Plan?
>
> My requirement are
> PC Users: 50
> Users OS: Win 3.1, Win 9x, Win Pro2000, Win XP, Lindows, FreeBSD
>
> My plan is to take weekly backup of 15 PCs as well as company data
> store/file such as Finance/Accounts spreadsheets, Administrat
On Sun, 2 May 2004 6:08 am, dave wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to determine if this UPS will work wih FreeBSD, i
> want to use it to control two computers, a switch, and a cable
> modem. I have not been able to find any information on it pertaning
> to nut or apcupsd. Does anyone know if this is
>
> You can use dump/tar to back up the actual data.
>
> You can use disklabel and fdisk to dump the current partition
> scheme to a text file prior to backing up.
>
> Then, if you needed to restore/rebuild from scratch, you could boot
> a CD (such as FreeSBIE) partition the new disk based on the
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 7:20 am, Вячелслав Обухов wrote:
> Hello I need BSD news & questions
>
> Sloan Moscow Russia
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Argh, I almost forgot this part of dmesg:
>
> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
This is the second cpu firing up
I dont know about the rest.
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:32 am, mark wrote:
> Hi
>
> Big question, I need to set up a FreeBSD server with serial ATA
> hardware raid.
>
> What serial raid controller, or what motherboard with a supported
> serial raid controller is recommended?
>
> I was thinking of staying with 4.9-STABLE or should
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 2:51 pm, Joe Shmoe wrote:
> After i installed freebsd on my machine it would no longer boot. I
> found out after about the critical error and all the posts about
> freebsd not working on a2 thinkpads. If i hit f1 or f12 it gives me
> the loading screen and nothing happens and bo
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 2:51 pm, Joe Shmoe wrote:
> After i installed freebsd on my machine it would no longer boot. I
> found out after about the critical error and all the posts about
> freebsd not working on a2 thinkpads. If i hit f1 or f12 it gives me
> the loading screen and nothing happens and bo
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 3:51 pm, Oliver Breuninger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a way to split and concat dump files afterwards.
>
> This should possible, butg I've been see a solution for this until
> yet.
>
> regards
You know that you can split dump files during the dump
See man dump for the
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 5:01 am, Feczak Szabolcs wrote:
> How can I get the latest bugs ? :) Can I ?
I can cough on you that out to do it...
Sorry couldnt resist
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 5:10 pm, paul wrote:
> I know this benchmark is a little outdated and has probably been
> discussed before http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/
>
> but I was like wtf when I saw this, is this a legit benchmark?
> Anyone out there in the "FBSD" community wanna benchmark 5.2.1 or
> 4.x
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:19 am, Ron wrote:
> Need information on how to get a KVM switch to work with the
> FreeBSD mouse driver.
>
> The Monitor and keyboard work fine but I have to hook a mouse
> directly to the box for it to work.
>
Does it work with another machine or O/S?
I have had kvm switches
> 2) use of fixit mode
> I have found other questions on this list about this topic.
> As suggested, I used the live CD and the CDROM/DVD option and then:
> mount -t ufs /mnt2/dev/ad0s1a /mnt
> ... but I get:
> mount: /mnt2/dev/ad01sa: Operation not permitted
I dont know about the rest but the ab
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 1:00 pm, Aeefyu wrote:
> Deal All,
>
> My problems surfaced when I updated Portupgrade with reference to
> item 20040226 in /usr/ports/UPDATING (though I suspect this is just
> a catalyst -- actual problem lies elsewhere)
>
I had a similar problem. I saw another thread where t
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 9:42 am, Eric F Crist wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been using freebsd 4.x on a laptop for 6 months or so now, and
> I'm not entirely happy with it. Mostly, it lacks multimedia
> support and power management. I don't want to start some flame war
> here, but here goes.
>
> Coul
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 1:35 am, Chris wrote:
> *This message was transferred with a trial version of
> CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
>
>
>
>
> In summary: the only way to mount my cdrom after burning an ISO is
> to reboot first.
>
>
> Prior to 5.2.1-RC1, I was able to burn ISO imaged onto a CDRW using
> burncd
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 5:19 pm, stepan wrote:
> hello all!
> Advise Rack Mount a server 1U for installation FreeBSD.
> Stepan
>
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 2:11 pm, Terrac Skiens wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have been running a FreeBSD system for fun & semi-pro uses for
> about 4 years. In all that time I only upgraded the Hard Disk once.
> That upgrade came at the same time as an OS upgrade, and at that
> time the server was used
>
> Are there any potential pitfalls to this approach, iow are there
> any compatibility issues that come up if I copy files from a nix
> box to a windows box and vice versa?
The problem I can see is that you may have problems with attributes.
It depends on what you are trying to backup. With dat
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 2:11 am, Wayne Sierke wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to mount any .iso images on 5.2-RELEASE:
>
> # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /root/tomsrtbt_1_7_361.iso
> md0
> # mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt
> mount_cd9660: /dev/md0: Invalid argument
> # mdconfig -l
> md0
> #
Try > # mdconfig -a
> > Have I missed some command line options here to avoide having to
> > answer the perms and volume questions?
>
> I don't think you have missed anything. It is one of the little
> annoyances with dump/restore - which still do not add up to enough
> to overweigh the value of using them.
couldnt
>
> Like some one else suggested, check out burncd it will take care of
> ATAPI CDRW drives nicely. The place where it becomes hard is
> getting atapicam to work, not had much luck with this myself.
>
I had trouble with atapicam. well I used the scsi id that was detected
at boot and it didnt work
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I backed some files up using burncd and cdrecord. The files burned
> fine. But the problem that I am having. Is that I am unabel to see
> the files. The command I used for burn cd was: "burncd -f
> /dev/asc1c -s max -e data *.* fixate". And th
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 6:16 pm, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> I am curious what some newbies experiences were with FreeBSD who
> have have no unix experience before. I have someone that I might
> be setting up a unix workstation of some kind for and I'm debating
> whether I should use FreeBSD or some Linux d
Toomas Aas wrote:
Hi!
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 9:32 am, Richard Beyer wrote:
We're currently doing a back up of a FreeBSD 4.9 (2) server by
plugging a USB external drive in and then doing
cp /dev/ad0 /dev/da0
This takes about 30 hours, (USB 1).
To which anubis answered:
Why no
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 3:47 am, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
> I have a port redirect, public port 5001 to an internal machine
> port 3389, for Remote Desktop that works well in natd as long as I
> don't fire up my custom firewall:
>
> 0005023427286 divert 8668 ip from any to any via sis0
> 00100
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 9:32 am, Richard Beyer wrote:
> We're currently doing a back up of a FreeBSD 4.9 (2) server by
> plugging a USB external drive in and then doing
>
>
>
> cp /dev/ad0 /dev/da0
>
>
>
> This takes about 30 hours, (USB 1).
>
>
>
> Is this the best way to do it, or can someone suggest
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:52 am, David Bear wrote:
> I recently replace an ait tape drive with another one of the same
> model,, a sony sdx 300.
>
> Now, when I try to do anything with /dev/sa0 like get status or
> erase, I get a ton of errors. Below is the output of dmesg from
> it. Do I need to re
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 1:56 am, RJ45 wrote:
> Hello FreeBSD 5.2/alpha
>
> I have 3 scsi disk, one of the disks I don;t know why is not
> working. it is not seen by sysinstall and when I try to do
>
> sauron# disklabel -e da2
> disklabel: /dev/da2: no valid label found
>
> GEOM: create disk da2 dp=0xff
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 1:46 pm, Robert Storey wrote:
> I'm trying to set up a FreeBSD client machine for a school. They
> have never used FBSD or even Linux, they are 100% Windows. They are
> interested in letting their students gain experience with
> non-Windows software. So I need to prove to them t
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:00 pm, Edd Barrett wrote:
> Hi there. I think i may have discovered a bug in free bsd 5.2-RELEASE, it
> may be in earlier versions too, but I have not tried it (maybe someone
> running 4.x could try it)
>
> I have made an fstab entry and nsmbrc file for a smb share. vfs.userm
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:45 am, Marty Landman wrote:
> I don't see where this is covered in the FreeBSD Handbook. I have a couple
> of Apache installs (1.3 & 2) and would like to remove them from my system.
> And then start over again. How is this sort of thing normally done?
Really depends on how y
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 5:30 am, Brian H wrote:
> Greetings:
> is there an x app out there that can be used to rip a data cd.
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> _
> Get some great ideas here for your sweetheart on Valentine's Day - and
> beyond. http://
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:52 am, Warren Block wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> > I have a Freebsd 5.1-release box with samba installed, configured and
> > working.
> >
> > On my network I have an NT 4 server (can't change this right now). It
> > has a share on it called publications.
>
> I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux?
>
> Honest question.
>
It makes you smarter.
I learnt more about computing and networking setting up freebsd boxes for 1
month than years of being a gui jockey for the other systems, including
linux.
Now the tables have been turned. I am in
--DUN DUNH--
Dude, that is the worst sound for an admin to hear. Never heard it while
working on any of my bsd boxes.
Heard it twice this weekend. Upgrading a windas 2000 sbs to windas 2003 sbs
box. Then I went Aiee.
I like the fact that freebsd just works with no problems or stupid cra
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 5:39 am, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 07:23:52PM +1000, anubis wrote:
> : We have an old laptop and are going to turn it into a music on hold
> : service for our pabx.
> :
> : Will be uploading files to it via ftp and running a cron
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:54 pm, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a problem playing sounds in FreeBSD. Sometimes it works, sometimes
> it doesn't, and then I get the following error message:
>
> /dev/dsp: Device busy
>
> but "lsof | grep dsp" yields nothing.
>
> Can anyone help me with this
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 8:36 am, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I haven't used my infamous Toshiba Satellite with FreeBSD 4.8 very much
> since I got my desktop system with a flatscreen. I'm trying to think of
> something interesting to do with it now. I don't really need a separate
> firewa
I think it is perfectly justified for people who post crap to this list.
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 02:26 am, Raphael Dinge wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've installed a long ago FreeBSD 5.1 on my mother's
> computer which is a shuttle with nvidia nforce2
> motherboard.
> The computer crashes for reasons I can't explain.
> Since 5.2 was out, I installed it, and the problems
> are still co
Dude, could you rephrase that?
Its a bit hard to understand
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 04:09 pm, sam Long wrote:
> I have a system FreeBSD 5.1-p11.
> How will develop further FreeBSD?
> How real time is possible to make from FreeBSD
> operational system?
> I know, that in FreeBSD there are expansions rea
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 02:13 pm, chip wrote:
> Now I installed mplayer. The man pages shows gmplayer as a gui version
> of mplayer. When I enter gmplayer I get command not found. Mplayer works
> otherwise. I see a port for skins for the gui, but no port for the gui
> itself. Am I missing something here
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:31 pm, Chris wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2003 08:33 pm, anubis wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:04 am, Chris wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > Ok, I see that 5.2-RC2 has made it to the site. Is there a time frame
> > &g
Linux has a thing called drbd which is a block device that allows the
duplication of data across a network. The system writes to the local disk
first then the remote disk keeping them in sync.
Is there an equivalent in FreeBSD or is there one planned or is there another
way of going about thin
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:30 am, samy lancher wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have a 4.5 FreeBSD server. It is our Email, web and database server. I
> would like to setup a backup server so that when the main server goes down
> the backup server takes over its job. Could some one please tell me the
> best way
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:04 am, Chris wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Ok, I see that 5.2-RC2 has made it to the site. Is there a time frame on
> RC3 (if there is indeed going to be one)?
See here
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=17238
and here
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 10:31 am, fbsd_user wrote:
snip
> Are you telling me that the kernel binary is moved from an easy
> uncluttered location in 4.9 of / to a location 2 directory levels
> deep and surrounded with a bunch of clutter?
>
> What king of stupid system design decision is that?
> Is it
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 02:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I had 4.9 release working and did a clean install of 5.1 release over
> the 4.9 and ended up with boot failure after install. Using allBSD
> partition and standard MBR I get a missing operating system error. If I
> use the FreeBSD
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:00 pm, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> Hi Everybody ,
>
> Maybe you know Ensim , Vmware have a software ( Virtul Private
> Server ) which you can divide computer into seperate portions and everybody
> can manage their portions like his server ... One main computer and several
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:45 am, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> Hi Everybody ,
>
>
> I can't install FreeBSD on my Dual Computer ..
>
> When I boot the computer for install FreeBSD from 5.0 CD it stopped
> on TimeCounter "ACPI-SAFE" frequency 3579545 line ...
>
> After That I try to inst
> Dec 25 20:30:33 freebsdcgp /kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
The second cpu is going as stated above as opposed to the first cpu #0
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:27 pm, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> I burned the 2 iso images for 5.2 RC1, but during the install (even when
> choosing to install everything), I'm never prompted for the CD. What is
> it used for?
>
> Thanks.
>
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:28 am, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Could somebody please recommend a utility or script suitable for
> stressing a hard disk to check for possible errors?
>
> Thanks,
>
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:32 am, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
> Hi Everybody ,
>
>
> I watching freebsd-stable list I saw that somebody have a problem
> with SMP support which they are using 4.9 . I know that some improvement
> are coming with 5.x But this problem are very important for example
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:55 am, David Bear wrote:
> if I am writing multiple dumps to a single tape, is it wise to have mt
> write a setmark after dumping each file system?
There is no real need to do this.
If you want to write dump after dump onto a tape in the one session use the
/dev/nsa0 devic
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 04:04 am, Michael L. Hostbaek wrote:
> Hola,
>
> I am trying to install 5.1-RELEASE on an old Compaq Proliant 3000. When
> I boot on the cd, and choose 'default' in the bootloader - I get the
> following error message - followed by a panic:
>
> acpi: bad RSDP checksum (182)
>
>
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 05:46 am, J.D. Bronson wrote:
> Does anyone have 4.9 running on the above platform and if so
> could you kindly post a dmesg output?
>
> I have just bought 2 of these units (IDE) and pondering which flavor of
> *bsd to run on them.
>
> thanks!
I have one happily running 5.1
Th
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:25 pm, Gautham Ganapathy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Will FreeBSD 5.2 (RC1, 2 or RELEASE) support the 3Com 3C90x based n/w
> controller (Broadcom PHY) present on the A7N8X Deluxe motherboard?
>
> Also, will there be a driver for the Sil 3112 SATA driver?
>
> Thanx and Regards
> Gautham
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:31 am, Toomas Aas wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm looking for a cheap solution to back up a FreeBSD 4.8 machine.
> Cheap meaning that tape drives are out of question. Even external
> FireWire drives are deemed a bit too expensive by the folks for whom
> I'm doing this research.
>
> T
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:39 am, Pranav A. Desai wrote:
> I have the same options in the kernel config ... it still does the same
> thing :( ... now I am certain I am doing something wrong ... I think I
> will the GENERIC kernel config and see if that works ...
>
> Thanks for your help
> -Pranav
>
> *
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 02:31 pm, Rick Duvall wrote:
> I have some backup tapes that I have been using each once per week for
> about 8 months. I am getting errors when running amverify on a couple of
> them. To be sure that my tapes are still good and not just the system
> giving me fits, it would be
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:00 am, Dariush wrote:
> Its been over a few weeks now after installing freebsd
> 5.0 and still can not run cvsupdate and portupgrade on
> one my servers.
>
> We are behind a firewall and proxy server.
>
> All traffic to the internet uses a proxy server for
> connection.
>
> I
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:14 pm, Anil Garg wrote:
> hi,
> On red hat ..commands 'adduser' and '/stand/sysinstall' doesnt work.
>
> Can someone help me by telling how to add user and group in redhat.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Anil.
>
>
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:33 am, Daniel Nielsen wrote:
> Hi.
>
> It seems my nforce2 onboard audio is not detected by freebsd 5.1 plain
> install... dmesg says:
>
> uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
> pci0: at device 2.2 (no driver attached)
> pci0: at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
> p
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:13 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi all
>
> does anyone have any recommendations for good open source content
> management systems for
> websites?
Have a look at Bricolage
From the website http://bricolage.cc/
Bricolage is a full-featured, open-source content-management an
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:45 am, Robert wrote:
> I've been messing around with the installion of Freebsd and think I've got
> it after a few tries (I think). I'm at the "username #" command line. It
> also says "I got mail". But now I'm so lost. I've downloaded Doc's,
> handbooks and other information
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 04:28 am, Stephen Hovey wrote:
> The developers of freebsd are practically GODS -
>
> Every night that I get to sleep ALL NITE because my beeper DIDNT go off -
> its because I switched to freebsd
>
> this maybe sounds stupid - but BEFORE I made the switch, well I didnt get
> to
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:12 am, Stephen G Smith wrote:
> I am running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE, and I want to add firewall support to
> my kernel. So, I carefully read and followed the instructions in section
> 9.3 of the FreeBSD Handbook. But when I run "make depend" i get this
> error:
>
> cc: installat
I have 4 freebsd boxes and 1 windows 2000 server box acting as servers for
about 50 windows clients.
The boxes are used for file serving, printing, intranet, database, firewall
etc.
In the future all files will be served by samba and all web pages will be
served by apache but are now served by
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:09 am, Dragoncrest wrote:
> Hi all. I've got a server that keeps advancing it's local time by about
> a minute every 3-4 days and I'm curious what steps I need to do to
> syncronize the time with a given server so that it doesn't keep
> advancing like this? I know I saw it
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