Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-25 Thread John
On 23/09/2010 04:29, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 09/23/10 11:04, Mike Clarke wrote: That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting the feeling that I might have to move over to KDE4 before much longer due to reduced KDE3 support with some of the apps: Same here. I delayed trying KDE4 since my old box was too old; as soon as I

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 09/23/10 18:22, Adam Vande More wrote: If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. 4.3 was pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been far more solid than not. I tried 4.5.1 on 8.1/i386 with every port updated, on a 4-core AMD CPU with a Radeon HD

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 09/23/10 10:46, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:36:03AM +0100, Frank Shute escribió: My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows® and haven't come from the commandline.

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: I'm not too sure what you're asking certain window should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Since

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? Using fluxbox here for ages (used olvwm, ctwm, and fvwm[2] before. It's low overhead, very low cpu/disk/memory

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-24 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
I love Fluxbox too for its lightweightness and configurability. If you find it too minimalistic, I think that XFCE can be a good compromise also since it runs quite fast compared to KDE and Gnome while having most of their functionalities. XFCE is also compatible with Compiz... On Fri, Sep 24,

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, ... It's also lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely so. Strange. After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. I found it

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:38:03AM +0200, Andrea Venturoli escribió: On 09/23/10 06:53, Adam Vande More wrote: As stated before, it's really a personal matter. I like kde4 a lot, ... It's also lighter and faster than KDE3. It's pretty stable too, but not completely

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29:38PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, September 23, 2010 a las 09:36:03AM +0100, Frank Shute escribió: My belief is that people who are comfortable with Gnome/KDE are people who are familiar with working in a GUI such as Windows® and haven't come from the commandline. Totally wrong for me. I come from a UNIX

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 23 September 2010, Andrea Venturoli wrote: After years of KDE3 I tried KDE4 and switched back in half a day. I found it crawling slowly, with continuous crashes, rendering bugs and missing features... Of course, YMMV. That's very similar to my experience too but I'm getting the

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Jud
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:57 -0600, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote: I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:29:38 -0500, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? For many years now, I am happily using WindowMaker as my main desktop. It can be configured easily and

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:57:46PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: You don't have to choose one of those, there are lots of varied window managers, and advocates for each. There's an overview here on fd.o: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops. Many of those are in ports. That's a much

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.ukwrote: When I first tried KDE4 it was much slower than KDE3, have things improved sufficiently since then for me to think about upgrading? If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot. 4.3 was pretty

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Clarke
On Thursday 23 September 2010, Adam Vande More wrote: If you tried on KDE 4.1, 4.2, then yes things have improved a lot.  4.3 was pretty big update in terms of stability, and 4.4 has been far more solid than not.  All the base KDE apps seem to work appropriately, at least the ones I use.  

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on Wednesday, 22 September 2010: Hello all. In all these

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Jorge Biquez on

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Neal Hogan on Thursday, 23 September 2010: I'm not too sure what you're asking certain window should be moved by default to specific workspaces. Since you read the man page I'm guessing you're not talking

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread herbert langhans
If you prefer terminal applications you may get happy with blackbox. Its one of the smallest, but fully functional GUIs. And it is still kosher according to Unix standards. Its my favorite, I even prefer it to fluxbox, what is a little fancier. Cheers herb langhans -- sprachtraining langhans

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 September 2010 23:29, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is written in C considered such a great benefit by the Scrotwm

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Glen Barber
On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively maintained, and vim-like (among other things ;-). Why is written in C

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD dev, actively

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 23 September 2010: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired by xmonad, lightweight, written in C by oBSD

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: If you like xmonad, check out scrotwm. It's inspired

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-23 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:07:28PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/23/10 8:31 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:24:58PM -0500,

GUI Suggested?

2010-09-22 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-22 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jorge Biquez wrote: I was wondering if you can tell suggest me based on yoru experience on what path to follow? KDE? any other? The Handbook covers setting up the three major desktop environments in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html.

Re: GUI Suggested?

2010-09-22 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mxwrote: Hello all. In all these years I have been working with FreeBSd under terminal/shell mode. Since all my needs to solve have been solved that way I have never tried any graphical interface. I was wondering if you