On 11/6/06, David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 06:48:28AM -0500, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to
me that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
unfortunately it occurred to me after
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lveax wrote:
On 11/6/06, David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 06:48:28AM -0500, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to
me that perhaps this question had been asked on
On Dec 11, 2006, at 2:27 AM, lveax wrote:
who are the people that works in apple and also a freebsd developer
now?
Jordan Hubbard and Wilfredo Sanchez come to mind, and maybe Garance
Drosihn would also qualify, as I think he was part of Apple's darwin-
developers, IIRC. There are others.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 10:56:17PM -0600, Chuck Remes wrote:
Also, please recall I said most software and not 100% of software.
I am certain there are outliers that don't compile cleanly on OSX,
but that hardly proves that OSX is not a good UNIX target. The vast
majority of software
David Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 10:56:17PM -0600, Chuck Remes wrote:
Also, please recall I said most software and not 100% of software.
I am certain there are outliers that don't compile cleanly on OSX,
but that hardly proves that OSX is not a good UNIX target. The vast
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From: Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur
, 2006 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD?
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur
to me
that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 01:28:16AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
No, they used it all as the Darwin core. Then they took Darwin and
added their own GUI (used to be called Aqua) and that is MacOSX.
X11 also comes on the MacOS X DVD, but is not installed by default.
Bear in mind that the
Greetings All,
I really appreciate all of the feedback and reply posts regaring my
inquiry about Darwin and FreeBSD.
I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the
OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:03:20AM -0600, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the
OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could get the Darwin 8.1 cdrom to
install.
If your
On Nov 13, 2006, at 01:28, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Apple also doesen't use the UNIX security model. As near as I can
tell their core security model is an ACL model not a user/group model.
Once again this is something that's handled elsewhere.
The user-group security model is alive and the
David Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:03:20AM -0600, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have also recently been able to boot up the
OpenDarwin 7.2.1 as well, but never could get the Darwin 8.1
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Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Greetings All,
I really appreciate all of the feedback and reply posts regaring my
inquiry about Darwin and FreeBSD.
I am still somewhat confused as I have been looking at FreeBSD which I
think is VERY good and have
The biggest problem with MacOS X is that a lot of UNIX software that
runs on FreeBSD and such, is not ported to MacOSX, and it's very
difficult to compile on MacOSX.
This is completely wrong. Take a look at macports [1] (formerly
darwinports) for a large repository of UNIX software that
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Lorin Lund wrote:
The biggest problem with MacOS X is that a lot of UNIX software that
runs on FreeBSD and such, is not ported to MacOSX, and it's very
difficult to compile on MacOSX.
This is completely wrong. Take a look at macports [1]
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Garrett Cooper wrote:
Lorin Lund wrote:
The biggest problem with MacOS X is that a lot of UNIX software that
runs on FreeBSD and such, is not ported to MacOSX, and it's very
difficult to compile on MacOSX.
This is completely wrong. Take a look at
On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Lorin Lund wrote:
The biggest problem with MacOS X is that a lot of UNIX software that
runs on FreeBSD and such, is not ported to MacOSX, and it's very
difficult to compile on MacOSX.
This is completely wrong. Take a look at macports [1] (formerly
On 11/06/2006 05:48, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to me
that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to me
that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM micro-kernel,
combined them, made some improvements
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 06:48:28AM -0500, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to
me that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but
unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
So, basically the Apple team took
David Kelly writes:
Yes, basically. FreeBSD is free for the taking, so Apple
took. Steve Jobs' NeXT team had a lot of familiarity with Mach,
so they took from there also too. A good number of well known
FreeBSD people now work for Apple, there are a number of FreeBSD
device drivers
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:41:28AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
David Kelly writes:
Yes, basically. FreeBSD is free for the taking, so Apple
took. Steve Jobs' NeXT team had a lot of familiarity with Mach,
so they took from there also too. A good number of well known
FreeBSD people
On Nov 6, 2006, at 3:48 AM, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur
to me that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing
list, but unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it.
So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the
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Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Greetings All,
Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to
FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a
better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as compared to other
Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Greetings All,
Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to
FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a
better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as compared to other
operating systems like Linux (Fedora, Gentoo,
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Lorin Lund wrote:
Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
Greetings All,
Being a long time Linux user and now looking into moving over to
FreeBSD, I decided to so some research on the web to try and get a
better idea as to the strengths and weaknesses as
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