Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD?

2007-04-19 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri said:
 On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: . . .
 
   Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS
   when it comes to web media.
 
  I hope they kill each other and take the whole
  retch-media enhanced web experience with
  them flaming into the pit of hell from which
  they came.
 
  But that's just my opinion.
 
  References:
  http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood

 I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore
 it.

 Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps
 like stocks prices ..etc.

 Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD.

I agree. As much as I personally dislike flash, I have business 
clients who would be willing to switch from Micro$oft to FreeBSD. The 
main stumbling block is the lack of stable flash support.

Where I have deployed test versions of FreeBSD with either OO or KDE 
with Firefox, they were generally happy except for flash. This is one 
of the things we need to overcome if we're ever going to be seriously 
considered as a desktop os. Most clients expect the browser to at 
least work as well as Micro$oft, however misguided that is.

Beech 

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Oracle 10g in FreeBSD

2007-04-19 Thread Julian Bolivar

Hello, somebody had installed Oracle 10g for linux in Freebsd 6.2 ???

Thanks and Regards,

Julian Bolivar
www.julianbolivar.com
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Re: ftpd and chmod

2007-04-19 Thread Mike Bristow

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
[SITE chmod is disabled for anon logins to ftpd]

thanks. no way to change it?


Yes, but you'd have to modify the code for ftpd.  I doubt the FreeBSD 
project would accept such patches[1] as allowing anon users to modify 
file permissions is the sort of thing that can easily create subtle (and 
not so subtle!) security issues.


It may be easier to look at ftp daemons in the ports collection; one of 
them may be usable for you.


[1] This is me guessing, not speaking authoritatively.


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Module for Realtek RTL8111B ethernet NIC

2007-04-19 Thread fbsd

Hi All,

I have just installed PC-BSD on an Asus A8JS laptop. The Realtek 
RTL8111B ethernet NIC does not work so I'm looking for a bit of help.


As far as I can tell the driver for this NIC is the rl driver (the 
module is called if_rl.ko), but I also found a place where the driver 
was listed as the re driver. So the first question is whether someone 
can clarify this?


The NIC is not recognised during boot as there is no mention of it in 
dmesg, which leads me to think that maybe this NIC is not supported by 
the version of the driver in PC-BSD 1.3 (based on FreeBSD 6.1). Realtek 
provide a FreeBSD driver on their site and the Readme says to install by 
either of two methods: 1. Put the if_rl.ko module in /modules folder, 
etc but  the if_rl.ko file is not provided or 2. place new versions of 
the source code files into source and compile  the module but since I 
have no connectivity I can't download source to do this.


I have thought about how to get around these problems and have a couple 
of ideas.
1. Someone could email me an up to date version of the module. The re 
and rl drivers are compiled in the kernel according to the PC-BSD kernel 
configuration file. Will this conflict with any module I load?
2. Is it possible to download source on another pc and transfer it to 
the laptop on cd or usb drive so I can try the compile route. Please 
note that I have tried the source code PBI from the PC-BSD website, but 
some of the directories that should then exist according to the readme 
file are missing so that doesn't work.


Thanks for any help.

Ron
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Re: FW: IBM / FreeBSD - Install Update - Seems to be ACPI

2007-04-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 11:32 PM 4/18/2007, Murray Taylor wrote:


In our initial posts, we stated that we seemed to be having issues
getting the machine to boot with the 4 processors, so to bypass this we
disabled ACPI on boot. This allowed us to get past the CPU error and
continue to boot. However down the track we noticed things like the
ethernet adapater not getting picked up, and the big problem - none of
the disks getting recognised.

We have since tried a few things, one of which was removing all but one
of the CPU's. If we do this, and boot with ACPI enabled, all is totally
fine. All disks are found, and I receive no CPU panic error.

So it appears to me that by disabling ACPI in an attempt to bypass the
QUAD CPU problem, we are causing another issue behind the scenes.

The root of the problem now appears to be, that if we have anything over
1 CPU, directly after the kernel is loaded (when booting from the CD),
we receive the error message panic: madt_probe_cpus_handler: CPU ID 38
Too High. The moment a second CPU to the machineit bombs out.


Have you tried booting a custom kernel with SMP enabled from the hard 
drives?  You might try that and install another CPU and see how the system 
reacts.


Are these CPU's hyperthreaded too?  Or just single core CPU's?  I have had 
problems installing with some systems if hyperthreading was enabled.  Post 
installation with a custom SMP enabled kernel built I could turn 
hyperthreading on or off and the system booted and ran fine.


-Derek

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random hangs/reboots with Dell servers

2007-04-19 Thread Dimitris Zilaskos


Dear all,

I am trying to understand some long standing issues we have with freebsd 
and Dell servers.


Over the last 3 year we have installed freebsd 5.x and 6.x, with currently 
deployed version being 6.1, to a variety of of Dell rack mounted systems.


The Dell systems used so far are Poweredge 1750, 2950 (both scsi), and 
sc1425 (sata). All of them are dual CPU Xeon systems.


All these systems serve as mail/web servers, with 2 to 15 jails.

Installation has always proceeded normally without problems. However, 
after a few months of operation, all of these systems, purchased at 
different moments during the last 3 years, will begin rebooting randomly 
or freezing completely.


These reboots/freezes will at first occur once per 6 months, then 
gradually will move to to once per month, to normally stabilize around 
once per week, but in the case of the 1750 system once it even happened 
twice a day.


Load does not seem to matter, since even after shutting down all services 
in the servers, still random reboots occured.


So far we tried various tricks digged from the archives, like disabling 
ACPI, HT, but nothing changed.


We have migrated some systems that had these issues to RHEL compatible OS, 
and they run rock solid under heavy load.


Right now I have enabled kernel crash dumps and I am waiting for the next 
crash. But I understad a lot of people use FreeBSD with Dell servers, and 
I would like to listen on how to tackle this situation we are facing.


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Cant install freebsd6.2 on RAID1

2007-04-19 Thread М. Павел
Good Day.

I▓ve got a problem:
Server:
-   Motherboard Intel SE7320ep2 with integrated, simple, but fully hardware 
raid controller.
-   Two HDDs Seagate 200 gb combined into raid 1 (mirror).

The HDD has 3 sections:
3 √ not formated
1 √ win2003 server
2 √ keeps logic drives for windows
(there number means diskpart, not a order)

While booting from installation CD (on device probing stage) i've got following 
message:
...
atapci0: Intel 6300ESB UDMA100 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
atapci1: Intel 6300ESB SATA150 controller port 
0xce80-0xce87,0xce00-0xce03,0xcd80-0xcd87,0xcd00-0xcd03,0xcc80-0xcc8f irq 18 at 
device 31.2 on pci0
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1 
...
ad4: 188348MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 188348MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata3-master SATA150
ar0: 188348MB LSILogic v3 MegaRAID RAID1 status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master
...

During the installation of freebsd6.2 there are 3 variants where freebsd can be 
established: ad4,ad6,ar0.
I install the program to the drive ar0, make a slice on it and install the Boot 
Manager in MBR.
After the installation before rebooting the system I make sure that everything 
I need was copied.

Also i checked what says atacontrol
 atacontrol status ar0
ar0: ATA RAID 1 subdisks: ad4 ad6 status:READY

and pciconf:
 pciconf -lv 
...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:1:  class=0x01018a card=0x34508086 chip=0x25a28086 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
device   = '6300ESB IDE Controller'
class= mass storage
subclass = ATA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:2:  class=0x01048f card=0x34518086 chip=0x25b08086 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
device   = '6300ESB Serial ATA Controller (RAID mode)'
class= mass storage
subclass = RAID 
...


This means that the drive is visible and freebsd defines it to be normal (?)

Then Reboot.

F1 - Successfully loads windows
F3 - after BTX Loader I receive the following message: can▓t load kerner. 
Reason: not found

lsdev says
 lsdev
disk devices:
  disk0: BIOS drive A:
  disk1: BIOS drive C:

 show currdev
disk1s3a

However while i loading from installation CD
 lsdev
disk devices:
  disk0: BIOS drive A:
  disk1: BIOS drive C:
disk1s3a: FFS
disk1s3b: swap
disk1s3d: FFS
disk1s3e: FFS
disk1s3f: FFS

After that I reboot the computer and raid controller reports that the RAID is 
in DEGRADED state and drives need synchronization.
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Make Options -- just checking

2007-04-19 Thread David Southwell
Just checking because I have become totally confused so please bear with me.

I have been getting apparently inconsistent problems with a build. 

In my current state of confusion I need  to double check the way in which 
options are given for make before delving deeper into the problem. if there 
is an option define as:

'--with-abc=def'

what is the correct command line?

#[correct command-line]

for
#make
 for
#make configure

david

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Re: dhcpd assign duplicated IP address

2007-04-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

snip
 
 P.S. In recent days we some times got another network problem and I'm
 not sure if it's related to this DHCP server behavior. It happens on
 both Linux and Windows hosts that a host suddenly is no longer
 accessible (Ping no response). Check 'arp -a' on other hosts shows the
 host being accessed have wrong Mac Address. e.g. yesterday
 218.193.55.195 suddenly become in-accessible, this host is Linux and we
 got this behavior on a nearby host:
 
 sappho # arping 218.193.55.195
 Unicast reply from 218.193.55.195 [00:0F:EA:4B:82:58]  0.638ms
 Unicast reply from 218.193.55.195 [00:0F:EA:4B:82:58]  0.637ms
 Sent 113 probes (1 broadcast(s))
 Received 113 response(s)
 sappho # arp -a 218.193.55.195
 ? (218.193.55.195) at 00:02:2A:C1:53:87 [ether] on eth0
 
 arping reply is different from arp cache. This host become accessible
 the next day. Strange. Are these two problems related?

You have something seriously wrong somewhere.  They may be related but
there's not enough information here to be sure.  Consider installing
arpwatch on one or more systems and see if the reports it sends narrow
down the problem.

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Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD?

2007-04-19 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 06:59 +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote:
 On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  . . .
   Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS when it
   comes to web media.
 
  I hope they kill each other and take the whole
  retch-media enhanced web experience with
  them flaming into the pit of hell from which
  they came.
 
  But that's just my opinion.
 
  References:
  http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood
 
 I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore it.
 
 Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps like
 stocks prices ..etc.

Google Maps works just fine without flash - why would you want to
constrain your viewport to some poxy applet control?
If I want to watch a video, I want to use mplayer, not Firefox,

 
 Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD.

I write web applications for a living, and quite happily ignore the
steaming pile of excrement that is rich media applets - the number of
3rd party browser addons whose sole purpose is to disable flash
reassures me that I'm not alone in this view




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Re: IBM / FreeBSD - Install Update - Seems to be ACPI

2007-04-19 Thread David Robillard

In our initial posts, we stated that we seemed to be having issues
getting the machine to boot with the 4 processors, so to bypass this we
disabled ACPI on boot. This allowed us to get past the CPU error and
continue to boot. However down the track we noticed things like the
ethernet adapater not getting picked up, and the big problem - none of
the disks getting recognised.

We have since tried a few things, one of which was removing all but one
of the CPU's. If we do this, and boot with ACPI enabled, all is totally
fine. All disks are found, and I receive no CPU panic error.

So it appears to me that by disabling ACPI in an attempt to bypass the
QUAD CPU problem, we are causing another issue behind the scenes.

The root of the problem now appears to be, that if we have anything over
1 CPU, directly after the kernel is loaded (when booting from the CD),
we receive the error message panic: madt_probe_cpus_handler: CPU ID 38
Too High. The moment a second CPU to the machineit bombs out.



Have you tried to present this issue to some specific FreeBSD mailing lists?
I believe some of these might be more suited to help you.

These lists come to mind:

FreeBSD Bugs
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-bugs

FreeBSD ACPI
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-acpi

FreeBSD Hardware
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware

Good luck !

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Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD?

2007-04-19 Thread DAve

Tom Evans wrote:

On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 06:59 +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote:

On 4/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
. . .

Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS when it
comes to web media.

I hope they kill each other and take the whole
retch-media enhanced web experience with
them flaming into the pit of hell from which
they came.

But that's just my opinion.

References:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood

I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore it.

Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps like
stocks prices ..etc.


Google Maps works just fine without flash - why would you want to
constrain your viewport to some poxy applet control?
If I want to watch a video, I want to use mplayer, not Firefox,


Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD.


I write web applications for a living, and quite happily ignore the
steaming pile of excrement that is rich media applets - the number of
3rd party browser addons whose sole purpose is to disable flash
reassures me that I'm not alone in this view



What FreeBSD needs is a program to display a map just like Google, 
MapQuest, Yahoo, etc. Except, here is the kicker, make the map 
correct. I used an online map for the first time in two years last 
week, it was wrong. I stopped and picked up a new RM Atlas on my way home.


I am afraid I must agree with Mr. Evans, rich media is a comedy. Back in 
1998 everyone was screaming it's the content dummy!. That is still 
true today, and still gleefully ignored by most. Just so long as it is 
pretty, uses [web|i|e]-insert new buzz here, or wins a Weby, the 
content is meaningless, and no one seems to care.


Sorry, I'll go sit in the corner again.

DAve






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Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 10:14:13AM +1000, Murray Taylor wrote:

 Server: IBM X3850 (88633SM)
 CPU X 4: 40K2522
 HDD X 6: 40K1051
 IBM ServeRAID 8i: 39R8729
 
 We are attempting to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE onto this machine and
 are running into a problem getting the operating system to recognise the
 RAID controller. As a result not finding any disks when it comes to
 installing the O/S.
 
 We have attempted various modifications to the boot process, including
 the loading of an aac module, which according to the BSD website,
 should provide support for this type of controller.

I have only installed on a couple of raids and so don't know about
them all or even this one.   So, this might not apply to your situation.
But, I found that I had to study DMESG very carefully to find out what 
device to use for them.   The system seemed to put out a lot of messages 
that looked like other device names but in the end there was just one 
little line that pointed to the correct one.The most recent one was 
a Dell Perc 3i or something like that and I had to run the fixit and 
study the boot messages to figure it out.I don't have that one 
available to look at what it turned out to be, but it was more simple 
than I first thought from all the stuff it wrote out.  After mucking
with fixit a bit, then sysinstall seemed to figure it out OK.  I don't
remember actually changing anything - just fishing around a while.
I may have run fdisk under fixit to look at things and maybe delete
some slices.

So, rather than trying to change things right off, I would suggest
looking carefully at stuff and trying to determine what it is already
doing.

Anyway, good luck,

jerry

 
 When we attempt to boot to OS to install after making these above
 modifications, the boot loader advises that this module already appears
 to be loaded, which contradicts what I believe. In any respect, it
 doesn't work either way (with or without the module manually loaded).
 
 One side note (which i don't think is contributing) is that when I
 attempt to start the boot loader with ACPI enabled, it freezes with the
 message cpu id 38 too high. However if I boot the boot loader with
 ACPI disabled, this message dissapears. It _may_ be a possibility that a
 bi-product of disabling the ACPI is causing the RAID controller to have
 issues. This appears to be an issue because of the X4 CPU count ??
 
 That's a quick summary of the problem we have, and the path(s) we have
 been down to date to attempt to fix it. Any help you can provide would
 be very much appreciated. We are at the position now where we are
 prepared to pay for consulting services to get it going.
 
 Dave Faulkner / Murray Taylor
 
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Re: dhcpd assign duplicated IP address

2007-04-19 Thread Zhang Weiwu

Bill Moran 写道:

In response to Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

snip
  

P.S. In recent days we some times got another network problem and I'm
not sure if it's related to this DHCP server behavior. It happens on
both Linux and Windows hosts that a host suddenly is no longer
accessible (Ping no response). Check 'arp -a' on other hosts shows the
host being accessed have wrong Mac Address. e.g. yesterday
218.193.55.195 suddenly become in-accessible, this host is Linux and we
got this behavior on a nearby host:

sappho # arping 218.193.55.195
Unicast reply from 218.193.55.195 [00:0F:EA:4B:82:58]  0.638ms
Unicast reply from 218.193.55.195 [00:0F:EA:4B:82:58]  0.637ms
Sent 113 probes (1 broadcast(s))
Received 113 response(s)
sappho # arp -a 218.193.55.195
? (218.193.55.195) at 00:02:2A:C1:53:87 [ether] on eth0

arping reply is different from arp cache. This host become accessible
the next day. Strange. Are these two problems related?



You have something seriously wrong somewhere.  They may be related but
there's not enough information here to be sure.  Consider installing
arpwatch on one or more systems and see if the reports it sends narrow
down the problem.
I have followed Jeffrey's suggestion and reconfigured dhcpd.conf to make 
sure no host with specified IP address is within dynamic assigned IP 
range. I was mislead by my previous experience with Microsoft DHCP 
server configuration where a host with fixed IP address should be within 
the range. After updated dhcpd.conf I haven't see an IP conflict yet, 
I'll watch a few days.


For the ARP issue, thanks for suggesting arpwatch. I'd like to take a 
deeper look into how ARP works later. Thanks!

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Re: undefined reference to environ

2007-04-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Desai, Rajesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 when i link my application witj -lc (libc). i get the following errors


 /usr/lib/libc.a(getenv.o): In function `getenv':
 getenv.o(.text+0x19): undefined reference to `environ'
 getenv.o(.text+0x29): undefined reference to `environ'
 getenv.o(.text+0x63): undefined reference to `environ'
 /usr/lib/libc.a(getenv.o): In function `__findenv':
 getenv.o(.text+0xd5): undefined reference to `environ'
 getenv.o(.text+0xe2): undefined reference to `environ'
 /usr/lib/libc.a(getenv.o)(.text+0x113): more undefined references to 
 `environ' follow
 /usr/lib/libc.a(getprogname.o): In function `_getprogname':
 getprogname.o(.text+0x4): undefined reference to `__progname'

 can any body help me what can be wrong..and where i cam dinf thease symbols.

Those should be in the standard library also.
Can you come up with a simple test case that demonstrates the problem?
I can't reproduce anything like it on -STABLE.
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Xorg crashing without overt error messages

2007-04-19 Thread Rob
Hi All,

I am having a problem with a new laptop where Xorg crashes but doesn't
give any explicite info as to why.   I have added at the end some of the
output.  Thanks! 

Rob


www.empython.org   Python for Electromagnetics

Output from startx:

Script started on Thu Apr 19 07:32:43 2007
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/rob/.serverauth.67896
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name Xenon:0 in list
command /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (stdin):1:  bad display name Xenon:0 in
add command


X Window System Version 6.9.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2 i386 [ELF] 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD Xenon 6.2-STABLE-200704 FreeBSD
6.2-STABLE-200704 #0: Wed Apr 18 16:22:57 PDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SMPROB i386 Build Date: 16 October
2006Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Apr 19 07:32:43 2007
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing
from list!


waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.



/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name Xenon:0 in remove
command

Script done on Thu Apr 19 07:32:47 2007


End of /var/log/Xorg:

**) Option Protocol standard
(**) Keyboard1: Protocol: standard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) Keyboard1: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard1 (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 (type: MOUSE)
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing
from list! FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount
is 2, should be 1; fixing.


My xorg.conf:

# File generated by xorgconfig.

#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining
# a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the
# Software), to deal in the Software without restriction, including
# without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish,
# distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to
# permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to
# the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
# included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
# EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
# MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
#  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
# LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE,
# ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR
# OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation
# shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use
# or other dealings in this Software without prior written authorization
# from The X.Org Foundation.
#

# **
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **

# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
#
Section Module

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga   # don't initialise the DGA
extensionEndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
Loadtype1
#Loadspeedo
Loadfreetype
#Loadxtt

# This loads the GLX module
Load   glx
# This loads the DRI module
Load   dri

EndSection

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# 

Re: random hangs/reboots with Dell servers

2007-04-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 05:54 AM 4/19/2007, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote:


Dear all,

I am trying to understand some long standing issues we have with freebsd 
and Dell servers.


Over the last 3 year we have installed freebsd 5.x and 6.x, with currently 
deployed version being 6.1, to a variety of of Dell rack mounted systems.


The Dell systems used so far are Poweredge 1750, 2950 (both scsi), and 
sc1425 (sata). All of them are dual CPU Xeon systems.


All these systems serve as mail/web servers, with 2 to 15 jails.

Installation has always proceeded normally without problems. However, 
after a few months of operation, all of these systems, purchased at 
different moments during the last 3 years, will begin rebooting randomly 
or freezing completely.


These reboots/freezes will at first occur once per 6 months, then 
gradually will move to to once per month, to normally stabilize around 
once per week, but in the case of the 1750 system once it even happened 
twice a day.


Load does not seem to matter, since even after shutting down all services 
in the servers, still random reboots occured.


So far we tried various tricks digged from the archives, like disabling 
ACPI, HT, but nothing changed.


We have migrated some systems that had these issues to RHEL compatible OS, 
and they run rock solid under heavy load.


Right now I have enabled kernel crash dumps and I am waiting for the next 
crash. But I understad a lot of people use FreeBSD with Dell servers, and 
I would like to listen on how to tackle this situation we are facing.


First make sure you are up-to-date on the FreeBSD version you are running, 
also make sure it is still a supported release.  If not, update your src 
and rebuild everything.


For the hardware I'd run complete diagnostics from dell on one of these 
servers, and any stress tests available as well.  If the hardware all 
checks out OK, I would look for either an environmental cause such as 
heat.  Heat can cause hardware problems that wouldn't show up 
otherwise.  If neither of these looks like the cause, then you may need to 
swap-out a system board, or RAM as it must be a hardware issue.


-Derek

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Re: Xorg crashing without overt error messages

2007-04-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 10:31 AM 4/19/2007, Rob wrote:

Hi All,

I am having a problem with a new laptop where Xorg crashes but doesn't
give any explicite info as to why.   I have added at the end some of the
output.  Thanks!

Rob


Rob,

I have seen this on some systems running nvidia drivers.  I found if I 
cvsup'd and reinstalled the nvidia driver it would fire up just fine.


-Derek


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Re: random hangs/reboots with Dell servers

2007-04-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 At 05:54 AM 4/19/2007, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
 I am trying to understand some long standing issues we have with freebsd 
 and Dell servers.
 
 Over the last 3 year we have installed freebsd 5.x and 6.x, with currently 
 deployed version being 6.1, to a variety of of Dell rack mounted systems.
 
 The Dell systems used so far are Poweredge 1750, 2950 (both scsi), and 
 sc1425 (sata). All of them are dual CPU Xeon systems.
 
 All these systems serve as mail/web servers, with 2 to 15 jails.
 
 Installation has always proceeded normally without problems. However, 
 after a few months of operation, all of these systems, purchased at 
 different moments during the last 3 years, will begin rebooting randomly 
 or freezing completely.
 
 These reboots/freezes will at first occur once per 6 months, then 
 gradually will move to to once per month, to normally stabilize around 
 once per week, but in the case of the 1750 system once it even happened 
 twice a day.
 
 Load does not seem to matter, since even after shutting down all services 
 in the servers, still random reboots occurred.
 
 So far we tried various tricks digged from the archives, like disabling 
 ACPI, HT, but nothing changed.
 
 We have migrated some systems that had these issues to RHEL compatible OS, 
 and they run rock solid under heavy load.
 
 Right now I have enabled kernel crash dumps and I am waiting for the next 
 crash. But I understand a lot of people use FreeBSD with Dell servers, and 
 I would like to listen on how to tackle this situation we are facing.

Sorry, I missed the original post on this.

We run a variety of Dell stuff where I work.  Lots of 1850 and 2850 units,
and some 1950 and 2950s, in addition to a few 850s and the like.

We're not having any problems.  We routinely see uptimes that span from
one maintenance window to the next without any unplanned reboots.

One thing we've had fun with is that Dell has issued a LOT of firmware
upgrades over the last year, and those are a pain to get applied to remote
systems.  However, I don't recall any stability problems prior to the
upgrades.

I know this isn't answering your question, but I thought I'd point out
that your experience is not typical.  Somewhere, you are having a problem
that _can_ be solved.

The various units you describe come in various configurations, I wonder if
you're picking a specific hardware combination that FreeBSD has trouble
with?

Otherwise, you're on the right path with the crash dumps.  Once you have
more details, post them to this or the -hackers list to see if you can
get the problem narrowed down.  However, if these systems are spontaneously
rebooting without a panic, crash dumps might not help.

You don't have IPMI enabled on a public interface, do you?

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Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 We are attempting to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE onto this machine and
 are running into a problem getting the operating system to recognise the
 RAID controller. As a result not finding any disks when it comes to
 installing the O/S.

 We have attempted various modifications to the boot process, including
 the loading of an aac module, which according to the BSD website,
 should provide support for this type of controller.

Excuse me for asking a stupid question, but did you define an array
before attempting to install FreeBSD?  The aac driver won't attach
individual disks, it will only attached defined arrays.

 When we attempt to boot to OS to install after making these above
 modifications, the boot loader advises that this module already appears
 to be loaded, which contradicts what I believe. In any respect, it
 doesn't work either way (with or without the module manually loaded).

The loader is correct, aac is included in GENERIC.

 One side note (which i don't think is contributing) is that when I
 attempt to start the boot loader with ACPI enabled, it freezes with the
 message cpu id 38 too high. However if I boot the boot loader with
 ACPI disabled, this message dissapears. It _may_ be a possibility that a
 bi-product of disabling the ACPI is causing the RAID controller to have
 issues. This appears to be an issue because of the X4 CPU count ??

It appears the server uses non-consecutive CPU numbers, and we use a
static array with 32 slots, indexed by CPU number, to hold information
about the CPUs (or rather the local APICs they contain).

If you can either install without ACPI, or remove two of the CPUs
during installation, this should be fairly easy to fix: change the
definition of NLAPICS in /usr/src/sys/{amd64,i386}/acpica/madt.c and
rebuild your kernel, then boot with ACPI enabled and report back to
us.

DES
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

I tried Ubuntu once and went through an upgrade. This was after some
years of Debian at home.  There were problems, I thought it was a
joke. The documentation was also very bad, having to google for web
(PHP forums) pages with the right fix. Looked very ammateurish.

I moved to FreeBSD. I had enough of Debian-related problems.

[ ]s
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

On 4/14/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:



 My issues with FreeBSD as a desktop mostly come from the difficulty of


I suppose your the kind of user that would benefit from using PC-BSD.
PC-BSD is not a distro. It FreeBSB + friendlier installation and
package management à la Windows or Mac (and ports if you like).

Henry
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

On 4/13/07, Claude Menski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why is freebsd better then ubuntu?
___


I'll give you a real example. I havea licensed mathematics package
called Maple. It expensive. Ubuntu (Debian) just broke the
installation from one upgrade to another. They take pride in not
keeping backwards compatibility. Then, I used FreeBSD with the Red Hat
emulation software, ad I have it runing.

Another example: documentation (with whole books on the system desgin)
and a community more knowledgeable.

Plus, ports. You don have to wait 6 months like in Debian.

Additionally, you can run Linux software under emulation layer.

BSD license.

Cheers.

Henry
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

I find nothing brilliant in Debian's package management. It's heavily
dependent upon human intervention and just adds a layer of complexity
on top of a problem that was *already solved* in the Unix world, by
using Make files. Do they have a better backtracking algorith then
Make? No.

Debian's package management is the number one cause that distro just
got slower and slower in their release cycle.

Henry Lenzi
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Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

Dear folks --

I'm trying to install a software package called LINGO for my
operations research class. There's a Linux version (no BSD, though).

http://www.lindo.com/downloads/downloadm.html

I'm hoping I can get this to work with the Linux emulation layer
(other stuff work already, like Maple 8).

I am getting errors related to a shell script a LD_LIBRARY_PATH

There are libraries that need to be loaded in /opt/lingo9
 ls
LINGO.CNF   libcxa.so   liblindo.so libmosek.so.3.2 lingovars.sh
libcxa.so.3 liblindo.so.3.0 libunwind.so.5
libconsub3.so   libcxa.so.5 libmosek.so lingo9


I unpacked it under /opt.

There's a bash shell script you're supposed to run:

##
#! /bin/sh


LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$HOME/opt/lingo9/bin/linux32
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

LINGO_LICENSE_FILE=$HOME/opt/lingo9/license/lndlng90.lic
export LINGO_LICENSE_FILE
###

My first question is if the shell script translation to tcsh is correct:

###
#!/bin/tcsh

setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/opt/lingo9/bin/linux32

setenv LINGO_LICENSE_FILE /opt/ling9/license/lndlng90.lic
###

When I try to execute it, I get the error below (BTW, set to 755).


ls -l bsdlingolic.sh

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  2527  143 19 Abr 13:00 bsdlingolic.sh

./bsdlingolic.sh

LD_LIBRARY_PATH: Undefined variable.




What suggestions do you have regarding this issue?
Thanks in advance.

Henry
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chris
Henry Lenzi wrote:
 On 4/13/07, Claude Menski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why is freebsd better then ubuntu?
 ___
 
 I'll give you a real example. I have a licensed mathematics package
 called Maple. It expensive. Ubuntu (Debian) just broke the
 installation from one upgrade to another. They take pride in not
 keeping backwards compatibility. Then, I used FreeBSD with the Red Hat
 emulation software, ad I have it running.

We'll have to take your word for that on this.

 Another example: documentation (with whole books on the system desgin)
 and a community more knowledgeable.

While I myself agree that FreeBSD documentation is damned good - Ubuntu
is pretty damned good also. I can't say either pro nor con for Debian.

 Plus, ports. You don have to wait 6 months like in Debian.

This may or may not be true - I myself have not used Debian. I have used
Ubuntu (6.10 and upgraded to 7.04) and I was happy with the applications
I installed/used.

One thing to mention - you keep saying Debian. While it's true Ubuntu is
Debian-ish (A distro of, a fork - whatever they call it), I think that
you may be tainting your overall opinion based on Debian.

IIRC - the op specifically stated Ubuntu and NOT Debian. Just ensureing
that you don't cloud the already murky waters of this thread.

 
 Additionally, you can run Linux software under emulation layer.

Agreed - and in many cases, even better then on a Linux distro.

 BSD license.

This goes without saying.

 Cheers.
 
 Henry



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Re: program/binary ip filtering

2007-04-19 Thread Randy Schultz
Hey Bill,

Tnx much for the input.  I'm the new lead sys admin here.  Been away from
freebsd for far too long.  It's good to be back.  ;

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Bill Moran spaketh thusly:

-}
-}that you either need to write stateful rules (so that the initial connection
-}creates a state that is then used to allow traffic in both directions) or

That's what we currently have set up.

-}you need to create two rules -- one to allow traffic out, the other to
-}allow traffic in.  Stateful filtering is generally considered to be more
-}secure, but you then have concerns about properly maintaining state tables,
-}which can be a problem on very busy servers.

Oh?  Why is stateful considered more secure?  Anybody have links to good
reading on this?  I've been through the links in the handbook.  Tho' I could
have missed something, I didn't see anything on why stateful is more secure
than in/out.  

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acpi: s3 on asus kills ata?

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Franks

I sent this to the acpi list and got back resounding silence, so maybe
it was considered off-topic somehow?  I am certainly no guru in these
matters...I thought I was fairly detailed, so I would hope it wasn't
ignored for lack of info, but just incomprehensibility perhaps ;)

Steve

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Date: Apr 17, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: s3 on asus kills ata?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The only thing 'special' I have on my system is a gmirror, and it
appears to be quite unhappy with suspending.  I added lines to
rc.suspend to umount the partitions, stop the mirror, and kldunload
gmirror, but it still freaks, identically as far as I cen tell whether
it is enabled or not, so maybe it's really ata that is the problem,
not gmirror.  Dmesg output follows, and you can see at the end where I
try to suspend, right before gmirror gives the 'provider destroyed'
message.

Interestingly, after following the acpi.hw.disable_on_poweroff=0
from the handbook, s1 appears to work (although the screen stays in
the current state instead of sleeping, but the sleep led does flash
and the keyboard is inactive until the sleep button is pressed).

Also, I don't know if this is universally the case, but you might put
a note in the handbook page for newbies - any time I do an acpiconf
-s(x) on any of my machines (the asus server or my brand-new cheapo
compaq laptop), I have to follow it with the '' sign, or else I get a
suspend request: not ready yet error, and the prompt returns with no
suspend.  I supose it should be obvious that you cannot suspend if the
system is interacting with the user, but it wasn't to me initially, as
I didn't know the '' command/modifier existed until reading about
shell scripts a bit.

Thanks, all,
Steve

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FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 31 21:58:00 MST 2007
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kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0: A M I OEMXSDT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 5.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 25.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
wi0: Linksys WDT11 port 0xdc00-0xdc7f,0xd880-0xd8bf mem
0xdfeffc00-0xdfef irq 16 at device 19.0 on pci2
wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE
wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (8.72.1)
wi0: Ethernet address: 00:60:1d:f0:e4:f9
atapci0: Promise PDC40718 SATA300 controller port
0xd800-0xd87f,0xd400-0xd4ff mem
0xdfefe000-0xdfefefff,0xdfec-0xdfed irq 17 at device 20.0 on
pci2
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
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uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
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usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
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uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chris
Henry Lenzi wrote:
 I find nothing brilliant in Debian's package management. It's heavily
 dependent upon human intervention and just adds a layer of complexity
 on top of a problem that was *already solved* in the Unix world, by
 using Make files. Do they have a better backtracking algorithm then
 Make? No.

I don't understand this at all. Assuming that Ubuntu's package
management is nearly the same as Debian's (by means of apt-get etc.)
then how do you figure it's heavily dependent on human intervention?

Perhaps you have portupgrade (that happens to be fairly intense when it
comes to human input and or intervention) confused with apt-get and or
apt-get upgrade/update?

If you are not confused, then perhaps the version of Debian or Ubuntu
was in it's infancy stages?

 Debian's package management is the number one cause that distro just
 got slower and slower in their release cycle.

Interesting - so, the semi annual (of course this means 2 times a year)
release of say Ubuntu isn't in line with say, OpenBSD or even FreeBSD
(when they manage to push our 2 releases in a year).

Base on what you have stated - you either used a very old version of
Debian or a very old version of Ubuntu. Then again, there is always the
notion that you may not have used any of the above and are just talking
out your keister ;)

 Henry Lenzi


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Re: Make Options -- just checking

2007-04-19 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Apr 19, 2007, at 4:39 AM, David Southwell wrote:
In my current state of confusion I need  to double check the way in  
which
options are given for make before delving deeper into the problem.  
if there

is an option define as:

'--with-abc=def'

what is the correct command line?

#[correct command-line]

for
#make
 for
#make configure


Arguments of the form --with-abc=def are typically fed to  
configure, not to make.  If you are using ports to build the software  
in question, you would adjust the port Makefile to include the extra  
option by changing the CONFIGURE_ARGS.


If you are building by hand, you would run ./configure --with-abc=def.

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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Philip M. Gollucci

###
#!/bin/tcsh

setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/opt/lingo9/bin/linux32

setenv LINGO_LICENSE_FILE /opt/ling9/license/lndlng90.lic
###

When I try to execute it, I get the error below (BTW, set to 755).



LD_LIBRARY_PATH: Undefined variable.
It means exactly what it says.  By default LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not set in 
your env.  If you try to use a not set yet 'undefined' variable on the 
right hand side of a setenv it gives this.


setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /opt/lingo9/bin/linux32

Or you could get fancy with [ -z $LD_LIBRARY_PATH ]


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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

On 4/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Henry Lenzi wrote:
 I find nothing brilliant in Debian's package management. It's heavily
 dependent upon human intervention and just adds a layer of complexity
 on top of a problem that was *already solved* in the Unix world, by
 using Make files. Do they have a better backtracking algorithm then
 Make? No.

I don't understand this at all.


It's quite obvious you don't.


Assuming that Ubuntu's package
management is nearly the same as Debian's (by means of apt-get etc.)
then how do you figure it's heavily dependent on human intervention?



Have you ever seen the process whereby Debian (and I keep saying
Debian because Ubuntu just piggybacks on the Debian developers)
releases packages?

Their package management system is supposed to be about handling
dependencies automatically. Well, I'm not sure you've quite noticed
this, that FreeBSD (and the other BSDs) *also* handle dependencies
automatically. How? Because of the Magic Makefiles and its
backtracking algorithm! Well, funny, huh. No need to reinvent the
wheel, as 3 BSD Unixes demonstrate daily.



 Debian's package management is the number one cause that distro just
 got slower and slower in their release cycle.




Interesting - so, the semi annual (of course this means 2 times a year)
release of say Ubuntu isn't in line with say, OpenBSD or even FreeBSD
(when they manage to push our 2 releases in a year).


I said Debian and you said Ubuntu. My point was that the packaging
system they have impinges an extra work load on their developers
(there aren't really developers in Debian, only packagers. Only one or
two develop system-level software, unlike in the BSDs).
Fine. Ubuntu release sin a 6 months cycle. That is the reason they
created Ubuntu, because Debian couldn't handle it. Notice that Ubuntu
has full time developers on their payroll, *and* they piggyback on
Debian. My point being that part of the blame lies in the technology
which, in fact, is an opinion seldom heard. A funny thing that the guy
who actually invented dpkg doesn't really use it anymore...
Here's what you do: plot a graphic of the growth of number of packages
in Debian, and then observe how that relates to their release cycle.
You'll notice that the more packages they have, the more they stall.



Base on what you have stated - you either used a very old version of
Debian or a very old version of Ubuntu. Then again, there is always the
notion that you may not have used any of the above and are just talking
out your keister ;)

 Henry Lenzi


Yes I have, I used Debian for over 5 years. I much prefer FreeBSD
nowadays. Anyways, I'll not have an argument with you. I care nothing
about Ubuntu or Debian or your opinons on whether I've used Debian or
not. That is what I think. I'll just leave it at that. You think
Ubuntu is great, good for you.

Henry Lenzi
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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:15:28 -0300 Henry Lenzi wrote:

 I'm trying to install a software package called LINGO for my
 operations research class. There's a Linux version (no BSD, though).

 http://www.lindo.com/downloads/downloadm.html

 I'm hoping I can get this to work with the Linux emulation layer
 (other stuff work already, like Maple 8).

 I am getting errors related to a shell script a LD_LIBRARY_PATH

 There are libraries that need to be loaded in /opt/lingo9
  ls
 LINGO.CNF   libcxa.so   liblindo.so libmosek.so.3.2 lingovars.sh
 libcxa.so.3 liblindo.so.3.0 libunwind.so.5
 libconsub3.so   libcxa.so.5 libmosek.so lingo9


 I unpacked it under /opt.

 There's a bash shell script you're supposed to run:

 ##
 #! /bin/sh


 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:$HOME/opt/lingo9/bin/linux32
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

 LINGO_LICENSE_FILE=$HOME/opt/lingo9/license/lndlng90.lic
 export LINGO_LICENSE_FILE
 ###

 My first question is if the shell script translation to tcsh is correct:

Why should you convert the script to tcsh? IMHO the best way is to
convert it to sh.

 ###
 #!/bin/tcsh

 setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/opt/lingo9/bin/linux32
   ^^^ [1]
recursive declaration?

 setenv LINGO_LICENSE_FILE /opt/ling9/license/lndlng90.lic
 ###

 When I try to execute it, I get the error below (BTW, set to 755).

  ls -l bsdlingolic.sh
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  2527  143 19 Abr 13:00 bsdlingolic.sh
  ./bsdlingolic.sh
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH: Undefined variable.

Yep, it's not defined at the time [1] occures. Actually, defining
LD_LIBRARY_PATH almost always is a Bad Thing.

 What suggestions do you have regarding this issue?

1. Create a port (local?) for the software. Don't forget to brand
   executables (only!).

2. Install it to PREFIX=/usr/local (i.e. libraries to /usr/local/lib
   etc), linuxulator will make the right thing to find needed
   libraries.

3. Delete the definition of LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

4. Enjoy you work. ;-)


WBR
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

 I'll give you a real example. I have a licensed mathematics package
 called Maple. It expensive. Ubuntu (Debian) just broke the
 installation from one upgrade to another. They take pride in not
 keeping backwards compatibility. Then, I used FreeBSD with the Red Hat
 emulation software, ad I have it running.



Yes. Well, you try that: buy expensive software and go use Ubuntu.
Then, check if works between some release cycle.

I will offer a piece of advice: Linux is so prone to mutation and so
proud in their disregard for any sane ABI policy, that I recommend for
those that wish to use commercial software on Linux that they choose
Red Hat, because that is what all the vendors support, mostly.

Henry
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Re: random hangs/reboots with Dell servers

2007-04-19 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Apr 19, 2007, at 3:54 AM, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote:
Over the last 3 year we have installed freebsd 5.x and 6.x, with  
currently deployed version being 6.1, to a variety of of Dell rack  
mounted systems.


The Dell systems used so far are Poweredge 1750, 2950 (both scsi),  
and sc1425 (sata). All of them are dual CPU Xeon systems.


I've got a large number of Dell PowerEdge 1750, 1850, 2900, 2950  
deployed in various production environments, whereas some other  
clients are using HP ProLiant 360/370 boxen.  Both seem to be rock  
solid under either 5.4/5.5, or 6.1/6.2.  I've even got a pair of  
firewall boxes running nothing but NAT and SSHd, which are at 600+  
days of uptime:


FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE (FW) #0: Tue Jul 12 11:10:14 EDT 2005

Welcome to FreeBSD!
12:24PM  up 636 days, 19:26, 3 users, load averages: 0.25, 0.14, 0.04

(Machines running more services get OS or service related updates  
more frequently-- typically every month to every 3 months-- but I  
don't like to make changes to a running machine unless I expect the  
change to make an improvement which justifies the disruption.  For a  
non-SMP firewall which would involve loss of external network  
connectivity to update, nothing in 6.x is worth the cost to update to  
as yet, IMHO.)



All these systems serve as mail/web servers, with 2 to 15 jails.

Installation has always proceeded normally without problems.  
However, after a few months of operation, all of these systems,  
purchased at different moments during the last 3 years, will begin  
rebooting randomly or freezing completely.


These reboots/freezes will at first occur once per 6 months, then  
gradually will move to to once per month, to normally stabilize  
around once per week, but in the case of the 1750 system once it  
even happened twice a day.


Load does not seem to matter, since even after shutting down all  
services in the servers, still random reboots occured.


Sounds to be something hardware-related like a power-supply problem,  
if the failure rate is gradually getting shorter and is not  
correlated with load at all.


So far we tried various tricks digged from the archives, like  
disabling ACPI, HT, but nothing changed.


We have migrated some systems that had these issues to RHEL  
compatible OS, and they run rock solid under heavy load.


Hmm.  Well, you might have to wait for a few weeks or months to be  
able to get reasonable comparison of longer-term stability, but this  
at least implies that something like cooling or a failed fan aren't  
likely causes.


Right now I have enabled kernel crash dumps and I am waiting for  
the next crash. But I understad a lot of people use FreeBSD with  
Dell servers, and I would like to listen on how to tackle this  
situation we are facing.


Try to get a crash dump.  Also, you might find reviewing the BIOS  
options and disabling everything which is not needed, hopefully  
including USB, will help.


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Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Mark Tinguely

  If you can either install without ACPI, or remove two of the CPUs
  during installation, this should be fairly easy to fix: change the
  definition of NLAPICS in /usr/src/sys/{amd64,i386}/acpica/madt.c and
  rebuild your kernel, then boot with ACPI enabled and report back to
  us.

  DES
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I suggested that in email too, but looking closer, I think the MAXCPU
needs to be increased because the cpu number uses the apic_id. Or could
that be changed with a logical CPU to APIC ID lookup?

Isn't the APIC IDs programmable? not that I am suggesting that, I
can think of headaches of all the places (like interrupt tables)
where it needs to be changed, not to mention the worry that the
lower APIC IDs were assigned to IOAPICs.

--Mark Tinguely
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chris
Henry Lenzi wrote:
 On 4/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Henry Lenzi wrote:
  I find nothing brilliant in Debian's package management. It's heavily
  dependent upon human intervention and just adds a layer of complexity
  on top of a problem that was *already solved* in the Unix world, by
  using Make files. Do they have a better backtracking algorithm then
  Make? No.

 I don't understand this at all.
 
 It's quite obvious you don't.
 
 Assuming that Ubuntu's package
 management is nearly the same as Debian's (by means of apt-get etc.)
 then how do you figure it's heavily dependent on human intervention?

 
 Have you ever seen the process whereby Debian (and I keep saying
 Debian because Ubuntu just piggybacks on the Debian developers)
 releases packages?
 
 Their package management system is supposed to be about handling
 dependencies automatically. Well, I'm not sure you've quite noticed
 this, that FreeBSD (and the other BSDs) *also* handle dependencies
 automatically. How? Because of the Magic Makefiles and its
 backtracking algorithm! Well, funny, huh. No need to reinvent the
 wheel, as 3 BSD Unixes demonstrate daily.
 

  Debian's package management is the number one cause that distro just
  got slower and slower in their release cycle.

 
 Interesting - so, the semi annual (of course this means 2 times a year)
 release of say Ubuntu isn't in line with say, OpenBSD or even FreeBSD
 (when they manage to push our 2 releases in a year).
 
 I said Debian and you said Ubuntu. My point was that the packaging
 system they have impinges an extra work load on their developers
 (there aren't really developers in Debian, only packagers. Only one or
 two develop system-level software, unlike in the BSDs).
 Fine. Ubuntu release sin a 6 months cycle. That is the reason they
 created Ubuntu, because Debian couldn't handle it. Notice that Ubuntu
 has full time developers on their payroll, *and* they piggyback on
 Debian. My point being that part of the blame lies in the technology
 which, in fact, is an opinion seldom heard. A funny thing that the guy
 who actually invented dpkg doesn't really use it anymore...
 Here's what you do: plot a graphic of the growth of number of packages
 in Debian, and then observe how that relates to their release cycle.
 You'll notice that the more packages they have, the more they stall.
 

 Base on what you have stated - you either used a very old version of
 Debian or a very old version of Ubuntu. Then again, there is always the
 notion that you may not have used any of the above and are just talking
 out your keister ;)

  Henry Lenzi
 
 Yes I have, I used Debian for over 5 years. I much prefer FreeBSD
 nowadays. Anyways, I'll not have an argument with you. I care nothing
 about Ubuntu or Debian or your opinons on whether I've used Debian or
 not. That is what I think. I'll just leave it at that. You think
 Ubuntu is great, good for you.
 
 Henry Lenzi
 
 

As I mentioned before - the Op's question was/is about Ubuntu. I simply
clarified the fact that you were muddying the waters by stating Debian.
And perhaps its true - Ubu is nothing more then a better Debian - but i
must reiterate the fact - the thread was about Ubu.

By muddying the waters of the thread - you are lending information that
isn't pertainant to the Op or anyone else for that matter.

I will admit one thing, from the wording of your thread, it appears as I
mis interrupted what you meant. While I read it from an end user point
of view - you clearly meant it from a programmers (or package
maintaners) point of view.

Perhaps had you made that clearer (not only for me, but others) this
part of the thread would not have gotten this far.


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Chris

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Worldvista-vista

2007-04-19 Thread Mark Busby
Has anyone been able to run vista or worldvista on freebsd?? www.worldvista.org
  I have 4 freebsd servers and hate to add a linux to the mix just for this.
   
  Thanks
   
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:42:57PM -0300, Henry Lenzi wrote:
  I'll give you a real example. I have a licensed mathematics package
  called Maple. It expensive. Ubuntu (Debian) just broke the
  installation from one upgrade to another. They take pride in not
  keeping backwards compatibility. Then, I used FreeBSD with the Red Hat
  emulation software, ad I have it running.
 
 
 Yes. Well, you try that: buy expensive software and go use Ubuntu.
 Then, check if works between some release cycle.
 
 I will offer a piece of advice: Linux is so prone to mutation and so
 proud in their disregard for any sane ABI policy, that I recommend for
 those that wish to use commercial software on Linux that they choose
 Red Hat, because that is what all the vendors support, mostly.

I just accidentally sent some responses to comments in various parts of
this discussion thread that targeted only the individual people who sent
the emails to which I responded.  I actually meant to respond to the
list in each case.  The lack of a list-reply is playing hell with my
ability to consistently respond to the list.  Any who get emails from me
in this thread today, please check to see if they were addressed to the
list in CC, and if not, forward them to the list if you don't mind.

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Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what went 
wrong?


My box has a boatload of drivers; s3-virge, radeon, ati, etc.  This new 
install (6.2 RELEASE) has *no* video drivers at all.


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The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


gmirror - one provider won't activate

2007-04-19 Thread Cam Baillie
Hello,

I set up a RAID 1 duplex following the well-laid out OnLamp article.  I had 
successfully synchronised both disks prior to rebooting.  Then I rebooted and 
the ad3 disk wouldn't activate.

The system boots off of ad0 while slices within ad1 and ad3 are supposed to 
serve as the duplex.  The duplex (/dev/mirror/gm0) mounts successfully to 
/usr/home so I have access to my data from ad1.

I am running 6.2-release.  The dmesg and fstab files are attached.  

Thank you!
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Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Mark Tinguely [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I suggested that in email too, but looking closer, I think the MAXCPU
 needs to be increased because the cpu number uses the apic_id. Or could
 that be changed with a logical CPU to APIC ID lookup?

 Isn't the APIC IDs programmable? not that I am suggesting that, I
 can think of headaches of all the places (like interrupt tables)
 where it needs to be changed, not to mention the worry that the
 lower APIC IDs were assigned to IOAPICs.

I don't know, you'd have to ask jhb@ about the details.

DES
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Re: Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread usleepless

Paul,

On 4/19/07, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what went
wrong?


a fresh install of what exactly?

regards,

usleep
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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

Thank you it worked, except it borked with out-of-memory.
I'll quit using LINGO.

Henry
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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

Thank you Boris. I just discovered that there's an AMPL version for
FreeBSD (who says FreeBSD doesn't get support ?) that works with
lp_solve, so I'll be using that (lp_solve is in the ports tree).

http://www.ampl.com/DOWNLOADS/details.html#Unix

I mention this for other people that might want to search operations
research software that works on FreeBSD.

Thanks.

Henry
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Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread L Goodwin
Hello. I have a server with 3 SCSI drives. FreeBSD is installed on da0 (4.3GB), 
and da1 and da2 (both identical 9GB drives) are to be used in a RAID 1 array 
for file storage on a LAN with Windows XP and Vista clients, using Samba to 
share the filesystem on da1. Backups will be taken from da2.
 
Drives da1 and da2 are currently unused (reclaimed from a Windows server). I 
have not done anything to prepare these 2 drives yet.
 
I also have not configured Samba yet.
 
Please walk me through the process of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2 fileserver given 
these conditions?

I tried configuring the RAID1 array using the following sources, but got 
judging from the errors I got, it looks like I need to prepare da1/da2 first:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

Both assume you only have 2 drives and want to mirror the drive containing 
FreeBSD. I only want to mirror the data drive da1, and would appreciate a 
concise set of steps for doing this right the first time.

Thanks!

   
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Re: Cant install freebsd6.2 on RAID1

2007-04-19 Thread Toomas Aas

N, 19 apr   2007 kirjutas М. Павел [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Good Day.

I▓ve got a problem:
Server:
-	Motherboard Intel SE7320ep2 with integrated, simple, but fully   
hardware raid controller.

-   Two HDDs Seagate 200 gb combined into raid 1 (mirror).

The HDD has 3 sections:
3 √ not formated
1 √ win2003 server
2 √ keeps logic drives for windows
(there number means diskpart, not a order)

While booting from installation CD (on device probing stage) i've   
got following message:

...
atapci0: Intel 6300ESB UDMA100 controller port   
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on   
pci0

ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
atapci1: Intel 6300ESB SATA150 controller port   
0xce80-0xce87,0xce00-0xce03,0xcd80-0xcd87,0xcd00-0xcd03,0xcc80-0xcc8f irq 18  
 at device 31.2 on pci0

ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci1
...
ad4: 188348MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 188348MB Seagate ST3300831AS 3.03 at ata3-master SATA150
ar0: 188348MB LSILogic v3 MegaRAID RAID1 status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master
...

During the installation of freebsd6.2 there are 3 variants where   
freebsd can be established: ad4,ad6,ar0.
I install the program to the drive ar0, make a slice on it and   
install the Boot Manager in MBR.
After the installation before rebooting the system I make sure that   
everything I need was copied.


Also i checked what says atacontrol

atacontrol status ar0

ar0: ATA RAID 1 subdisks: ad4 ad6 status:READY

and pciconf:

pciconf -lv

...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:1:  class=0x01018a card=0x34508086   
chip=0x25a28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00

vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
device   = '6300ESB IDE Controller'
class= mass storage
subclass = ATA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:2:  class=0x01048f card=0x34518086   
chip=0x25b08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00

vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
device   = '6300ESB Serial ATA Controller (RAID mode)'
class= mass storage
subclass = RAID
...


This means that the drive is visible and freebsd defines it to be normal (?)

Then Reboot.

F1 - Successfully loads windows
F3 - after BTX Loader I receive the following message: can▓t load   
kerner. Reason: not found


lsdev says

lsdev

disk devices:
  disk0: BIOS drive A:
  disk1: BIOS drive C:


show currdev

disk1s3a

However while i loading from installation CD

lsdev

disk devices:
  disk0: BIOS drive A:
  disk1: BIOS drive C:
disk1s3a: FFS
disk1s3b: swap
disk1s3d: FFS
disk1s3e: FFS
disk1s3f: FFS

After that I reboot the computer and raid controller reports that   
the RAID is in DEGRADED state and drives need synchronization.

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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:23:52 -0300 Henry Lenzi wrote:

 Thank you Boris.

You are welcome.

 I just discovered that there's an AMPL version for
 FreeBSD (who says FreeBSD doesn't get support ?) that works with
 lp_solve, so I'll be using that (lp_solve is in the ports tree).

I'm far from understanding the topic of those programms. Can you say
if the port of LINGO may be helpful for FreeBSD users?


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Re: Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 19 April 2007 03:24:36 pm L Goodwin wrote:
 Hello. I have a server with 3 SCSI drives. FreeBSD is installed on da0
 (4.3GB), and da1 and da2 (both identical 9GB drives) are to be used in a
 RAID 1 array for file storage on a LAN with Windows XP and Vista clients,
 using Samba to share the filesystem on da1. Backups will be taken from da2.

 Drives da1 and da2 are currently unused (reclaimed from a Windows
 server). I have not done anything to prepare these 2 drives yet.

 I also have not configured Samba yet.

 Please walk me through the process of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2 fileserver
 given these conditions?

 I tried configuring the RAID1 array using the following sources, but got
 judging from the errors I got, it looks like I need to prepare da1/da2
 first:

 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

man gmirror
man newfs
man mount
man fstab
man smb.conf
man samba

gmirror label -b load sambavol /dev/da1 /dev/da2
newfs -U /dev/mirror/sambavol
mkdir /sambavol
mount /dev/mirror/sambavol /sambavol
echo '/dev/mirror/sambavol /sambavol ufs rw 2 2'  /etc/fstab

The samba config depends a log on how you want to use the share and handle 
authentication and permissions, etc. The sample config file has most of what 
you need.  Here's a starting point for a section to share a /sambavol 
directory with a samba share name of sambavol:

[sambavol]
   path = /sambavol
   browseable = yes
   writable = yes
   printable = no

You will of course need a correctly configured global section and you'll 
probably want additional entries in the volume section like public, guest 
ok, only guest, etc.

JN

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Re: Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Franks

I was initially hung up on the boot disk issue as well - everything in
the handbook applies to a data-only drive as well, except the part
about dumping the filesystem, etc.  I presume your disks are
uninitialized.

I suggest a look at the actual gmirror manpage, it has more  better
examples, and I pretty much followed one of those exactly.

There's really only 2 things to do:

1) make sure gmirror gets loaded on startup (specific directions are
in the handbook/man)

2) initialize your disks with gmirror as per the man page.

After that works, you'll have something like /dev/mirror/gm0 (you'll
still have /dev/da1 and da2, but you want to use the gm0 in fstab
instead, otherwise, it won't be mirrored).  Then, if you are a newbie
like me, you can just run sysinstall to fdisk and label (aka.
'partition/format') your new disk.  It was quite easier than I
expected, acutally, and my disks have live data on them - no problems
ensued.  Since it's a 'normal' disk after gmirror is configured, samba
works with it just like the rest of your filesystem.

Samba was a bit more work for me, but again, just followed the
handbook and samba.org instructions, and I had no major issues.

Steve

On 4/19/07, L Goodwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello. I have a server with 3 SCSI drives. FreeBSD is installed on da0 (4.3GB), 
and da1 and da2 (both identical 9GB drives) are to be used in a RAID 1 array 
for file storage on a LAN with Windows XP and Vista clients, using Samba to 
share the filesystem on da1. Backups will be taken from da2.

Drives da1 and da2 are currently unused (reclaimed from a Windows server). I 
have not done anything to prepare these 2 drives yet.

I also have not configured Samba yet.

Please walk me through the process of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2 fileserver given 
these conditions?

I tried configuring the RAID1 array using the following sources, but got 
judging from the errors I got, it looks like I need to prepare da1/da2 first:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

Both assume you only have 2 drives and want to mirror the drive containing 
FreeBSD. I only want to mirror the data drive da1, and would appreciate a 
concise set of steps for doing this right the first time.

Thanks!


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Re: every two weeks

2007-04-19 Thread L Goodwin
Here are some more things to check:

Check the cooling fan(s) in the power supply. I recently had a PS die due to a 
bad fan. Verify that it spins freely by hand (when OFF) and that it spins up 
quickly when turned on, and does not make any suspicious noises. Also check its 
RPM's in the BIOS if available.

I'd also check the CPU fan(s) (physically and in BIOS).

Verify that air can flow freely over the CPU and out through the power supply. 
There should be no cables blocking the path. Also, the power supply should have 
an intake fan that points at the CPU (many PSUs have it on the back, which 
usually does not face the CPU). This is especially important for AMD CPUs.

If hardware has been added, you could be overloading the power supply.

John Haig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Hi 
 
Every two weeks my Freebsd 5.3 box goes down. 
 
I'm running a webserver, databaase. No mail. 
 
Unfortunately it's 1100 miles from where I am and is quite the pain for
my contact to go and start it up again. 
 
He says it's turned off and cold by the time he gets there.
 
It's an old box for sure, hardware seems the likely culprit, but why up
for two weeks and then down?
 
It's the 4th time in well, about 8 weeks. Before that it was off for a
long time because no one could get to it. It's in New Orleans.
 
Anyone run into anything similar? It seems so un freebsd.
 
What would be a good way to see what the last thing that happened was?
 
Thanks for any insight. Please respond to me personally (as well as to
the list if you like).
 
 
Bagus
 
 
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Re: Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread Nagy László Zsolt

*L Goodwin wrote:

 Both assume you only have 2 drives and want to mirror the drive 
containing FreeBSD. I only want to mirror the data drive da1, and would 
appreciate a concise set of steps for doing this right the first time.
1. First of all, you should install the base system on da0 and boot it. 
(Leave da1 and da2 untouched)
2. Create a slice on da1 (fdisk). The name of the new slice will 
probably be da1s1. (You will find this inside sysinstall) I found that 
sometimes I had to use a bit smaller slice than the available space, 
because equally looking disks are not always equal. (Not kidding!)
3. Use disklabel editor to add partitions to the slice 
(/dev/da1s1a,/dev/da1s1b,/dev/da1s1c etc.) and format them with newfs as 
needed.

4. Change loader.conf, add this line:

geom_mirror_load=YES

5. Execute these:

gmirror load
gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/da1


6. Carefully rename all references in /etc/fstab

/dev/da1s1X becomes /dev/mirror/gm0s1X  (where X can be a,b,c,d etc.)

7. Reboot

8. Check your mirror with gmirror list and gmirror status, and see 
if your filesystems are mounted with df.


9. Add da2 to your mirror with this command:

gmirror insert gm0 /dev/da2


Please ask others, as I did not try this and I'm not 100% sure it will 
work. But I think it should.


Best,

  Laszlo


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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

[mailed (but cc line trimmed) and posted]

On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:

Any who get emails from me
in this thread today, please check to see if they were addressed to  
the

list in CC, and if not, forward them to the list if you don't mind.


Surely that will result in multiple copies of your posts all as  
forwarded messages from others.  Instead why don't you go through  
your sent mail and then resend (to the list only) those that you feel  
should be posted.


Given the way this thread has been going recently, it might be wise  
to take the opportunity to give a second judgment about whether the  
message should be posted.


Unless I am specifically asked something, I'll try to make this my  
last post to this thread.


Cheers,

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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:44:02AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Chad Perrin wrote:
 I just accidentally sent some responses to comments in various  
 parts of
 this discussion thread that targeted only the individual people who  
 sent
 the emails to which I responded.  I actually meant to respond to the
 list in each case.  The lack of a list-reply is playing hell with my
 ability to consistently respond to the list.
 
 Every functional mailclient ought to support reply to all.  If  
 yours doesn't, consider using something like Thunderbird from  
 Mozilla, which runs on most platforms...

I'm using mutt.  It supports bloody well everything.  The problem is not
that it doesn't support group-reply (what Windows-users tend to call
reply to all), but that the list doesn't support list-reply and the
direct reply doesn't respond to the list either.  Because of the way
mailing lists usually work, my habitual approach is to try list-reply,
and if that doesn't work, to use the standard reply.  This keeps the
signal to noise ratio for individuals on the list to whom I'm replying
to a minimum, as a group-reply sends an email to *every single person
that has been involved in a given subthread*, which is really obnoxious.

I'm not a fan of getting multiple copies of emails due to a group-reply,
and I'm sure others feel the same.  Thus, I choose to avoid using the
group-reply method when at all possible -- especially since I don't have
time to spend on editing the to and cc headers of every single email I
send out.

Is that clear enough for you?  I'm not an imbecile that doesn't know how
to use email, and I'm not using a mail client circa 1884 either.

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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:16:28PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
 [mailed (but cc line trimmed) and posted]
 
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
 Any who get emails from me
 in this thread today, please check to see if they were addressed to  
 the
 list in CC, and if not, forward them to the list if you don't mind.
 
 Surely that will result in multiple copies of your posts all as  
 forwarded messages from others.  Instead why don't you go through  
 your sent mail and then resend (to the list only) those that you feel  
 should be posted.
 
 Given the way this thread has been going recently, it might be wise  
 to take the opportunity to give a second judgment about whether the  
 message should be posted.
 
 Unless I am specifically asked something, I'll try to make this my  
 last post to this thread.

Tell ya what -- forget it.  I don't have time for that crap.

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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Henry Lenzi

On 4/19/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm far from understanding the topic of those programms. Can you say
if the port of LINGO may be helpful for FreeBSD users?



These softwares are for optimization of costs, resources etc. in
products, or shipment, routes, etc.

I think, yeah, it would be nice to have it on FreeBSD. If they support
Linux, it means there are people interested and they're pretty much th
same sort of crowd that would use FreeBSD. In fact, one of the reasons
people might choose Linux instead of FreeBSD is because they think
there is no - or see - no software for FreeBSD.

BTW, I have contacted the tech support ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and told them
it would probably be very easy for them so have a FreeBSD version.

Spasiba, Boris!

Henry
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New Config of Jails 4 port NIC with 6.2 stable

2007-04-19 Thread clubturbo
Hello Everyone! 
A FreeBSD Grasshopper needs help.

Working with 

PIII 1Ghz. 
1/2 gig ram 
two 80 gig drives
One 4 port D-link NIC.
Freebsd 6.2 stable +Gnome  Xorg, webmin installed
I have comcast with a Netgear wireless router

I would like to configure the above with Jails
My aim is Local DNS, DHCP, Apache1.3, MySQL 4, PHP4, etc, etc.
basic web server stuff.

Not sure where to start!
I would like to have a one NIC port stay on web.
After that I am not sure where to go. 

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Re: Help with running Linux software LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2007-04-19 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:24:21 -0300 Henry Lenzi wrote:
 On 4/19/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm far from understanding the topic of those programms. Can you say
  if the port of LINGO may be helpful for FreeBSD users?

 These softwares are for optimization of costs, resources etc. in
 products, or shipment, routes, etc.

Got it.

 I think, yeah, it would be nice to have it on FreeBSD. If they support
 Linux, it means there are people interested and they're pretty much th
 same sort of crowd that would use FreeBSD. In fact, one of the reasons
 people might choose Linux instead of FreeBSD is because they think
 there is no - or see - no software for FreeBSD.

I asked that question because I had a glance at the program and imo
it's not too hard to port the _linux_ version.

 BTW, I have contacted the tech support ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and told them
 it would probably be very easy for them so have a FreeBSD version.

That would be great.

 Spasiba, Boris!

And thank you! ;-)


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Question about the Window Maker window manager

2007-04-19 Thread Andrew Falanga

If anyone using FreeBSD regularly uses the Window Maker window
manager, I have a question about some behavior I saw today that I
don't quite get.  I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, but I
could not open anything.  I'd double click on the terminal icon that
is on the desktop and it would act like it was trying to do something,
but then nothing happened.  I tried to open the Control Panel, also
an icon from the desktop but to no avail as well.  I couldn't even
start a program from the menus when right clicking on the desktop to
display the menu.

I was, however, able to exit the window manager and then re-open it,
at which time all worked as expected.  Does anyone else experience
such things with Window Maker and if so, short of restarting Window
Maker, how does one go about correcting it?

Thanks,
Andy
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Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread Andrew Falanga

Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
a printer (or create as a postscript file)?

I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
(optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?

If it's something as simple as a string of chained command line aps,
hey, that's fine.  Please someone point me in the correct direction.

Andy
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Re: Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 02:07 PM 4/19/2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:
If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what 
went wrong?


My box has a boatload of drivers; s3-virge, radeon, ati, etc.  This new 
install (6.2 RELEASE) has *no* video drivers at all.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/



You specify what X drivers/X servers in a separate part of sysinstall.  In 
all likelihood you choose only the generic vga option.


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Re: Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:10:47PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote:
 Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
 available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
 a printer (or create as a postscript file)?
 
 I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
 through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
 (optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?

http://www.codento.com/people/mtr/genscript/

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Re: Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 04:19:47PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
 At 02:07 PM 4/19/2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what 
 went wrong?
 
 My box has a boatload of drivers; s3-virge, radeon, ati, etc.  This new 
 install (6.2 RELEASE) has *no* video drivers at all.
 
 Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Senior Information Security Analyst
 The University of Texas at Dallas
 http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
 
 
 You specify what X drivers/X servers in a separate part of sysinstall.  In 
 all likelihood you choose only the generic vga option.

Er, not for about the last 7 years I think ;)

Anyway, OP needs to provide some actual details of what he did and
what is wrong.  I suspect he's a bit confused about something,
e.g. FreeBSD doesn't install video drivers (apart from the drm
modules), they are part of X.

Kris


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Re: Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread Philip Hallstrom

Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
a printer (or create as a postscript file)?

I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
(optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?

If it's something as simple as a string of chained command line aps,
hey, that's fine.  Please someone point me in the correct direction.


I seem to remember using enscript to do this at one point... not sure 
about the color coding, but the rest it will do I think... even cruch 2/4 
pages onto one sheet which is nice sometimes.


http://www.codento.com/people/mtr/genscript/

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Re: Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread Gable Barber

On 4/19/07, Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
a printer (or create as a postscript file)?

I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
(optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?

If it's something as simple as a string of chained command line aps,
hey, that's fine.  Please someone point me in the correct direction.

Andy
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You might be able to find what you are looking for here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=printingstype=allsektion=all

I see a few potentially interesting ports, although I have no personal
experience with them.

http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/print/mp-a4

http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/print/mp-letter

Good Luck,
Gable
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Re: [freebsd-questions] Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread Howard Jones

Andrew Falanga wrote:

Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
a printer (or create as a postscript file)?

I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
(optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?

If it's something as simple as a string of chained command line aps,
hey, that's fine.  Please someone point me in the correct direction.


vgrind(1) does this, and you already have it installed (it's in /usr/bin).

Best Regards,

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Re: Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On Thursday, April 19, 2007 21:13:22 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Paul,

On 4/19/07, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what
went wrong?


a fresh install of what exactly?


I *did* say 6.2 RELEASE

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Re: Missing all video drivers

2007-04-19 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, April 19, 2007 16:19:47 -0500 Derek Ragona 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



At 02:07 PM 4/19/2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:

If a fresh install is missing *all* the video drivers except vga, what
went wrong?

My box has a boatload of drivers; s3-virge, radeon, ati, etc.  This new
install (6.2 RELEASE) has *no* video drivers at all.

You specify what X drivers/X servers in a separate part of sysinstall.
In all likelihood you choose only the generic vga option.

I didn't do the install, but I had him rebuild the kernel and now he has 
the drivers.


Thanks.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/


Re: Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread L Goodwin
There appears to be an issue with da1. 
Please advise as to what the problem is and how to resolve it.

I'm getting similar SCSI parity error messages for BOTH of the following 
commands:

1) gmirror label -b load sambavol /dev/da1 /dev/da2
2) fdisk -BI da1

Here is the output from the gmirror call:
--
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): WRITE(10): CDB: 2a 0 1 11 61 4f 0 0 10
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): SCSI parity error
...
(da1:ahc0:0:0:1:0): Retries Exhausted
Can't store metadata on /dev/da1: Input/output error.
Not fully done.
--
 
...and output from fdisk (nearly identical):
--
WRITE(06): CDB: a 0 0 0 1 0
CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
SCSI Status: Check Condition
ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0
SCSI parity error
Retrying Command (per Sense Data)
...
Retries Exhausted
fdisk: Failed to write sector zero
 
--
 
Please note:
* After disk swap, verified that these 3 SCSI drives appear as DEV 0,1 and 2, 
respectively in the SCSI Disk Utilities device listing.
* Both da1 and da2 appear in /var/run/dmesg.boot. 
* I have the SCSI ID jumpers set correctly for all 3 drives.
* I ran the Hitachi/IBM drive fitness test (Quick Test only) on both of the 9GB 
drives before moving them from the other server -- both passed. Did not run the 
Advanced Test on these drives

John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 19 April 2007 03:24:36 pm L 
Goodwin wrote:
 Hello. I have a server with 3 SCSI drives. FreeBSD is installed on da0
 (4.3GB), and da1 and da2 (both identical 9GB drives) are to be used in a
 RAID 1 array for file storage on a LAN with Windows XP and Vista clients,
 using Samba to share the filesystem on da1. Backups will be taken from da2.

 Drives da1 and da2 are currently unused (reclaimed from a Windows
 server). I have not done anything to prepare these 2 drives yet.

 I also have not configured Samba yet.

 Please walk me through the process of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2 fileserver
 given these conditions?

 I tried configuring the RAID1 array using the following sources, but got
 judging from the errors I got, it looks like I need to prepare da1/da2
 first:

 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

man gmirror
man newfs
man mount
man fstab
man smb.conf
man samba

gmirror label -b load sambavol /dev/da1 /dev/da2
newfs -U /dev/mirror/sambavol
mkdir /sambavol
mount /dev/mirror/sambavol /sambavol
echo '/dev/mirror/sambavol /sambavol ufs rw 2 2'  /etc/fstab

The samba config depends a log on how you want to use the share and handle 
authentication and permissions, etc. The sample config file has most of what 
you need.  Here's a starting point for a section to share a /sambavol 
directory with a samba share name of sambavol:

[sambavol]
   path = /sambavol
   browseable = yes
   writable = yes
   printable = no

You will of course need a correctly configured global section and you'll 
probably want additional entries in the volume section like public, guest 
ok, only guest, etc.

JN



   
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 01:51:34PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
 [ ...diatribe deleted... ]
 Is that clear enough for you?  I'm not an imbecile that doesn't  
 know how
 to use email, and I'm not using a mail client circa 1884 either.
 
 Several things are clear to me, actually.  Feel free to set up your  
 own FreeBSD-related lists if you don't care for how the official ones  
 are configured, as your opinions on the matter aren't likely to  
 affect the way things are.

It only came up because you decided to insinuate that I'm either an
imbecile as relates to email or stuck in the stone age.  You brought
the matter up -- not me.

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RE: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Murray Taylor
Thanks Jerry,

We have determined that our problem is related to the
god-awful mess known as ACPI.

With a single processor installed, it all boots fine, including
finding PCI busses 1 and 2  and the raid on the aac driver is
peachy!

With 2 or more processors installed, and ACPI enabled, it panics
with a madt error about id 38 is greater than the allowed max

And with ACPI disabled, it boots, but doesnt find PCI busses 1 and 2,
which is unfortunate as the RAID controller sits in PCI bus 1 
and the bge inet interface seems to be on PCI bus 2  

So at present we are on the FC6 path, which is obviously much
softer on the vagaries of ACPI and is ignoring the crap data returns.

mjt


 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 12:40 AM
 To: Murray Taylor
 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem
 
 On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 10:14:13AM +1000, Murray Taylor wrote:
 
  Server: IBM X3850 (88633SM)
  CPU X 4: 40K2522
  HDD X 6: 40K1051
  IBM ServeRAID 8i: 39R8729
  
  We are attempting to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE onto this 
 machine and
  are running into a problem getting the operating system to 
 recognise the
  RAID controller. As a result not finding any disks when it comes to
  installing the O/S.
  
  We have attempted various modifications to the boot 
 process, including
  the loading of an aac module, which according to the BSD website,
  should provide support for this type of controller.
 
 I have only installed on a couple of raids and so don't know about
 them all or even this one.   So, this might not apply to your 
 situation.
 But, I found that I had to study DMESG very carefully to find 
 out what 
 device to use for them.   The system seemed to put out a lot 
 of messages 
 that looked like other device names but in the end there was just one 
 little line that pointed to the correct one.The most 
 recent one was 
 a Dell Perc 3i or something like that and I had to run the fixit and 
 study the boot messages to figure it out.I don't have that one 
 available to look at what it turned out to be, but it was more simple 
 than I first thought from all the stuff it wrote out.  After mucking
 with fixit a bit, then sysinstall seemed to figure it out OK.  I don't
 remember actually changing anything - just fishing around a while.
 I may have run fdisk under fixit to look at things and maybe delete
 some slices.
 
 So, rather than trying to change things right off, I would suggest
 looking carefully at stuff and trying to determine what it is already
 doing.
 
 Anyway, good luck,
 
 jerry
 
  
  When we attempt to boot to OS to install after making these above
  modifications, the boot loader advises that this module 
 already appears
  to be loaded, which contradicts what I believe. In any respect, it
  doesn't work either way (with or without the module 
 manually loaded).
  
  One side note (which i don't think is contributing) is that when I
  attempt to start the boot loader with ACPI enabled, it 
 freezes with the
  message cpu id 38 too high. However if I boot the boot loader with
  ACPI disabled, this message dissapears. It _may_ be a 
 possibility that a
  bi-product of disabling the ACPI is causing the RAID 
 controller to have
  issues. This appears to be an issue because of the X4 CPU count ??
  
  That's a quick summary of the problem we have, and the 
 path(s) we have
  been down to date to attempt to fix it. Any help you can 
 provide would
  be very much appreciated. We are at the position now where we are
  prepared to pay for consulting services to get it going.
  
  Dave Faulkner / Murray Taylor
  
  Bytecraft Systems
  
  
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RE: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem

2007-04-19 Thread Murray Taylor
Thanks all,

We will look into the code editting and see what we can get
however we are on an very short time frame so may not be able to 
slot it in before a maintenance slot where we need to be able to drop in
the box 'seamlessly' .

But I have noted the proposed fix provided on these lists into the red
book!

mjt
 

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 Sent: Friday, 20 April 2007 3:37 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Murray Taylor
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 Subject: Re: IBM / FreeBSD Install problem
 
 
   If you can either install without ACPI, or remove two of the CPUs
   during installation, this should be fairly easy to fix: change the
   definition of NLAPICS in 
 /usr/src/sys/{amd64,i386}/acpica/madt.c and
   rebuild your kernel, then boot with ACPI enabled and report back to
   us.
 
   DES
   --=20
   Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I suggested that in email too, but looking closer, I think the MAXCPU
 needs to be increased because the cpu number uses the 
 apic_id. Or could
 that be changed with a logical CPU to APIC ID lookup?
 
 Isn't the APIC IDs programmable? not that I am suggesting that, I
 can think of headaches of all the places (like interrupt tables)
 where it needs to be changed, not to mention the worry that the
 lower APIC IDs were assigned to IOAPICs.
 
 --Mark Tinguely
 
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Re: completly remove (or modify) a port

2007-04-19 Thread Ray
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 12:21 pm, N.J. Mann wrote:
 On Wednesday, 18 April, 2007 at 12:16:28 -0600, Ray wrote:
  Hello all,
  I have been trying to work with postfix from the ports collection.
  I need to rebuild it to include mysql support. I tried
  #make deinstall
  but a subsequent
  #make install
  doesn't give me the options screen.

 make rmconfig

 See man ports(7)


 Cheers,
Nick.

thank you all for your quick answers (all 9 responses) but I guess I should 
have said what are the _ways_ to  

I also appreciate the responses that told me what part of the documentation to 
look at for future reference. 
Thanks
Ray

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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread Rico Secada
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:37:27 -0300
Henry Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 4/19/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Henry Lenzi wrote:
   I find nothing brilliant in Debian's package management. It's heavily
   dependent upon human intervention and just adds a layer of complexity
   on top of a problem that was *already solved* in the Unix world, by
   using Make files. Do they have a better backtracking algorithm then
   Make? No.
 
  I don't understand this at all.
 
 It's quite obvious you don't.

Neither do you!

  Assuming that Ubuntu's package
  management is nearly the same as Debian's (by means of apt-get etc.)
  then how do you figure it's heavily dependent on human intervention?
 
 
 Have you ever seen the process whereby Debian (and I keep saying
 Debian because Ubuntu just piggybacks on the Debian developers)
 releases packages?
 
 Their package management system is supposed to be about handling
 dependencies automatically. Well, I'm not sure you've quite noticed
 this, that FreeBSD (and the other BSDs) *also* handle dependencies
 automatically. How? Because of the Magic Makefiles and its
 backtracking algorithm! Well, funny, huh. No need to reinvent the
 wheel, as 3 BSD Unixes demonstrate daily.
 

Stop comparing things which aren't comparable! 

*BSD ports system handles dependencies in a completely different manner and its 
building upon source. apt-get uses binary packages. The two systems has nothing 
in common.
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Re: I like Ubuntu

2007-04-19 Thread youshi10

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Chad Perrin wrote:


On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 01:51:34PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
[ ...diatribe deleted... ]

Is that clear enough for you?  I'm not an imbecile that doesn't
know how
to use email, and I'm not using a mail client circa 1884 either.


Several things are clear to me, actually.  Feel free to set up your
own FreeBSD-related lists if you don't care for how the official ones
are configured, as your opinions on the matter aren't likely to
affect the way things are.


It only came up because you decided to insinuate that I'm either an
imbecile as relates to email or stuck in the stone age.  You brought
the matter up -- not me.

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This is not the time or the place to comment about this particular topic 
anymore IMO, as this is a high traffic list and many people receive emails from 
this list.

Therefore, I ask that this discussed on the thread be frozen. Like many OS 
comparison threads I've seen in the past, this has gotten out of control, and 
has mutated too much to be of any real use now, other than people getting their 
ires up and flaming across the list.

Regards,
-Garrett

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find processes with pages in swap

2007-04-19 Thread Josh Carroll

Hello,

I was wondering if there is a utility that allows you to query swap
and determine which processes currently have virtual pages in swap. I
couldn't find any way from the pstat/swapinfo man pages, but hopefully
I'm overlooking something.

Regards,
Josh
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Re: Samba and RAID 1 using gmirror on 2 new disks

2007-04-19 Thread L Goodwin
One more thought: I had to disable ACPI (as with the first server) to get 
FreeBSD to boot. Could this have something to do with my problem, i.e., is some 
manual configuration necessary to set up SCSI devices in FreeBSD?

Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   At 06:36 PM 4/19/2007, L Goodwin 
wrote:
 This is a different machine from the original one I was trying to install 
FreeBSD on. However, the two 9GB SCSI-3 drives are from the original machine.

 There seems to be a problem with how they are configured or with one or both 
of the 9GB drives (details are in my posting that appears after yours).
 The 4.3GB SCSI-2 drive that I installed FreeBSD 6.2 on is fine. This is da0.
 The errors are on da1.

 Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 02:24 PM 4/19/2007, you wrote:
 Hello. I have a server with 3 SCSI drives. FreeBSD is installed on da0 
(4.3GB), and da1 and da2 (both identical 9GB drives) are to be used in a RAID 1 
array for file storage on a LAN with Windows XP and Vista clients, using Samba 
to share the filesystem on da1. Backups will be taken from da2.
  
 Drives da1 and da2 are currently unused (reclaimed from a Windows server). I 
have not done anything to prepare these 2 drives yet.
  
 I also have not configured Samba yet.
  
 Please walk me through the process of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2 fileserver 
given these conditions?

 I tried configuring the RAID1 array using the following sources, but got 
judging from the errors I got, it looks like I need to prepare da1/da2 first:

 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html

 Both assume you only have 2 drives and want to mirror the drive containing 
FreeBSD. I only want to mirror the data drive da1, and would appreciate a 
concise set of steps for doing this right the first time.

 Thanks!
 The errors look like it is having a problem writing in the first cylinder 
where the RAID configuration is kept.  If you haven't done a low-level format 
and diagnostics on this drive, I would start there.

 -Derek
 
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Re: Code beautification and/or printing utilities that are not part of an editor

2007-04-19 Thread David Kelly


On Apr 19, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Andrew Falanga wrote:


Another question for everyone.  Are there any programs, hopefully
available in the ports, that one can use to print source code files to
a printer (or create as a postscript file)?

I'd like something that I can feed a C++ program, have it parse
through the code, print line numbers to the left of the page and
(optionally) color code the syntax.  Does anything like this exist?


a2ps was once a nice and simple ascii to PS converter then it bloated  
into a source code pretty-printer. Has been at least 10 years since I  
used it.


GNU indent is a very useful code reformatter.

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nVidia GeForce 6100/430 Realtek 8211 Gig-E on FreeBSD 6.1

2007-04-19 Thread Don O'Neil
Does anyone know how to get a nVidia GeForce 6100/430 Realtek 8211 Gig-E
interface to work on FreeBSD 6.1? Loading the standard nVidia lan drivers
doesn't work, nor does anything in the generic kernel. Is there a
patch/driver for this device? The MB is a Gigabyte M61P-S3.

Thanks!

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