Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I guess that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes. What version number would you call some time ago? I just used Ctrl-Q about six hours or so ago. --

Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0200, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: Has anyone tested Arora? I wouldn't recommend Arora as a lightweight browser to anyone who isn't already using applications built with the Qt toolkit. If you're a KDE user, it may be a good choice; if you aren't, it spectacularly

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 06 Aug 2009 at 22:49:09 PDT Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:37:46PM +, b. f. wrote: Roland Smith rsmith at xs4all.nl wrote: What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with ports-mgmt/portmaster: portmaster -L ports.list Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; - Root ports (No dependencies,

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread ltcddats
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is

Re: Opera in your repos

2009-08-07 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:46:05AM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: BSD=Berkeley Software Distribution AKA distro of Unix That's not the same as saying that FreeBSD is a distribution. FreeBSD is not called a BSD of Unix, after all. It's a BSD Unix system or BSD Unix OS, or simply a BSD Unix. The

Re: not dead [yet].

2009-08-07 Thread b. f.
On 8/7/09, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Hmm. here is the output from df: ~ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a507630 363386 10363478%/ devfs 11 0 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e507630 107700

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Identry wrote: Try downloading and booting the livefs environment (I think you need cd1 and the livefs cd or just the DVD) and see if you can mount it from that, if not it could be a controller issue. If you can then its probably your OS/kernel but at least you now have access to your

Re: Mouse still crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-07 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 06. Aug 2009, 15:37:34 -0800 schrieb Mel Flynn: On Thursday 06 August 2009 12:46:21 Bertram Scharpf wrote: You might get some help on freebsd-x11 list. As I mentioned twice I manage to reproduce the problem just calling dd. It is definitely not an X11 issue. I really made

Cleaning email

2009-08-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, reading around the FAQ for FreeBSD mailing list, I see that the mailing list server does some message cleaning (converting HTML to text, etc). From reading the list, it does a very good job and I would not mind using the same facility for my own mail if only I knew what is being used. I

Re: Sendmail to duplicate messages

2009-08-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, With some delay... Thanks Matthew, What rule, in what file should I set-up to have my mail sendmail mail server duplicate all messages to another mail server? =20 I am in the proces sof setting-up a new mail server; in the meantime I want all messages arriving to my current mail

Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-07 Thread Robert Huff
Chad Perrin wrote: Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I guess that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes. What version number would you call some time ago? I just used Ctrl-Q about six hours or so ago. The FreeBSD machine with Firefox is down but

Re: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ?

2009-08-07 Thread Kalle Møller
That would be neat :) And I think your correct about the dirrmtry .. since the auto could contain shared files But I don't know about the rest On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Vincent Hoffman vi...@unsane.co.uk wrote: Kalle Møller wrote: Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with

Free Seminar: How to Create a Profitable Email Newsletter

2009-08-07 Thread Self Improvement Newsletter
Dear Darling, I am always looking for ways to provide you with valuable information to help you and your business thrive. I have provided countless seminars, videos, and articles on many very important strategies that every business should think about implementing. Today, I am going to

broken firefox port?

2009-08-07 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
hi, while upgrading firefox 3.0.11-1, this error appeared to me: --- Upgrading 'firefox-3.0.11,1' to 'firefox-3.0.13,1' (www/firefox3) --- Building '/usr/ports/www/firefox3' === Cleaning for firefox-3.0.13,1 ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g left KDE4 makes KDE3 look like Fluxbox. I can't remember the exact figures on

Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Underwood
I'd really love to see chromium ported over. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
I'd give it an fsck or two (more than one has been needed once or twice), I was afraid to run fsck before backing up everything I might possibly need, so I spent most of last night mounting all the partitions and backing up things. I was able to manually mount all the partitions and all the

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Andrew Gould
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, RWrwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:        i'd be interested in Paul's question.  it may be that kde3       is sopping up wy to much disc space.  only have 6.5g       left KDE4

Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser

2009-08-07 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:32:38AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: I'd really love to see chromium ported over. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. This may imply that KDE3 and KDE4 can coexist.

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:12:03 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? (Please forgive me - I know that's a horribly subjective question.) IMO it's less usable in terms of ergonomics, and they

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Are you using the GENERIC kernel After more research, I think the answer to this is no. There is a directory called /boot/kernel.old. From my reading, I believe this is the original generic kernel? if not have you tried it? Not yet. Section 24.2.3 Major and Minor Upgrades of the Handbook says

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Identry jalmb...@identry.com wrote: I'd give it an fsck or two (more than one has been needed once or twice), I was afraid to run fsck before backing up everything I might possibly need, so I spent most of last night mounting all the partitions and backing

How is time zone change signalled?

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
We have a suite of applications with a Java GUI controlling everything. One of the actions the user can perform is to set the time zone. We do this through our Java application and update the /etc/localtime as required. We also make an API call to tell the JVM that the time zone as changed, and

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:31:01AM -0400, Identry wrote: Are you using the GENERIC kernel After more research, I think the answer to this is no. There is a directory called /boot/kernel.old. From my reading, I believe this is the original generic kernel? Try this: # strings

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Identry jalmb...@identry.com wrote: Are you using the GENERIC kernel After more research, I think the answer to this is no. There is a directory called /boot/kernel.old. From my reading, I believe this is the original generic kernel? if not have you tried

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Try this: # strings /boot/kernel/kernel     | grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/' # strings /boot/kernel.old/kernel | grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/' $ strings kernel/kernel |grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys' r...@on.identry.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INET_ON $ strings kernel.old/kernel |grep

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:59:13AM -0400, Identry wrote: Try this: # strings /boot/kernel/kernel ? ? | grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/' # strings /boot/kernel.old/kernel | grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/' $ strings kernel/kernel |grep ':/usr/obj/usr/src/sys'

Re: broken firefox port?

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 07, 2009 07:56:01 -0500 Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: hi, while upgrading firefox 3.0.11-1, this error appeared to me: --- Upgrading 'firefox-3.0.11,1' to 'firefox-3.0.13,1' (www/firefox3) --- Building '/usr/ports/www/firefox3' === Cleaning for

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com a écrit : I don't want to run KDE3 and KDE4 side by side. I want to migrate from the former to the latter. K3B needs kde3 and amarok2 is not yet ready for KDE 4.3. I still use amarok 1.4. There is no problem to use

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
If you did not touch the kernel, there is no need to boot GENERIC! Plus you have said that this box is running PF, which is not in the GENERIC kernel! Personally, I am interested in knowing why the system does not mount the root partition on its own when you can do it by hand and it does not

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 07, 2009 00:27:00 -0500 Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul

Re: Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:08:44AM -0400, Identry wrote: if not have you tried it? No. I need to figure out how to do that, and I didn't have enough brain power last night after doing all those backups. After sleeping on it, I am wondering if I can kill two birds with one stone... by

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
So I guess the question now is, if I can mount it manually, why doesn't it mount during the boot process? I'd give it an fsck or two (more than one has been needed once or twice) So I've been thinking about how to run fsck... At the moment, I have to boot from an install cd, go into fixit

Re: How is time zone change signalled?

2009-08-07 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Steele wrote: [...] The problem is with our C applications. They continue to operate with the old time zone, so things like timestamps in log files are not in sync with the timestamps in the Java app log files. If we stop and restart

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 11:25:48AM -0400, Identry wrote: So I guess the question now is, if I can mount it manually, why doesn't it mount during the boot process? I'd give it an fsck or two (more than one has been needed once or twice) So I've been thinking about how to run fsck...

Re: Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Realize that if you upgrade to 7.x, you'll have to remove and reinstall all ports because the version number of shared system libraries will have changed. Yes, I've decided this is way too complicated. Or would it be safer to try to bring up the machine on it's own with a 6.2 generic

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Odhiambo ワシントン
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Identry jalmb...@identry.com wrote: So I guess the question now is, if I can mount it manually, why doesn't it mount during the boot process? I'd give it an fsck or two (more than one has been needed once or twice) So I've been thinking about how to run

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
fsck is run when all file systems are unmounted! If you can, choose single use mode, press enter when it says something like /bin/sh (I don't remember the wordings) and then on the subsequent prompt,, # fsck -y [Press enter here] That is all you need. Once it completes, it will bring back

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Should I use any flags? Should I mount the filesystems read write or read only? You should never fsck a filesystem when its mounted! Ah... glad I asked. I think you should start by reading the manual pages for fsck and fsck_ffs. I would start with 'fsck_ffs -fp /dev/yourdevicenode'.

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-07 Thread Polytropon
I'm obviously getting more and more stupid. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: To conform with the growisofs manual, you could symlink it to /dev/dvd using the setting linkacd0cdrom in /etc/devfs.conf. Wrong line copies. Should be:

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:26:10PM -0400, Identry wrote: Should I use any flags? Should I mount the filesystems read write or read only? You should never fsck a filesystem when its mounted! Ah... glad I asked. Actually it is only when a filesystem is mounted read-write that you must

RE: How is time zone change signalled?

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
Did you try unsetting TZ and then calling tzset()? The man page implies that doing so will force a reread of /etc/localtime (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tzsetsourceid=opensearch): The tzset() function initializes time conversion information used by the library routine localtime(3).

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 19:26:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go

PROBLEMS WITH 250GB SATA HD

2009-08-07 Thread Juan Esteban Martinez Restrepo
Yesterday I upgraded from 7.2 to 8.0beta2, had some issues with fuse.ko and linux compat, but rebuilt and worked ok, I'm having problems trying to mount my SATA 250GB HD, because it just finds one partition (/dev/ad4s1), but I really have 2 partitions there (/dev/ad4s5 /dev/ad4s6) which are ntfs,

Re: foot-shot?

2009-08-07 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Gary Kline wrote: Super! just offhand, can i install PCSD *over* thius FBSd --7.1--? Keep /usr/home and so on? Or is PCBSD a do-it-from-scratch? (I'm pretty much OS agnostic [[so long as it's somethng like UNIX]], but here I know where things live... With

Time quantization when reading from serial port

2009-08-07 Thread Chris Stankevitz
I receive data on the serial port (flags O_NONBLOCK, VMIN=0, VTIME=0, B115200). The time the data shows up is quantized to 5ms. Where does this 5ms quantization comes from? Increasing kern.hz to 1 does not reduce this effect. Thank you, Chris

Re: How is time zone change signalled?

2009-08-07 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Steele wrote: Did you try unsetting TZ and then calling tzset()? The man page implies that doing so will force a reread of /etc/localtime (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tzsetsourceid=opensearch): The tzset() function initializes

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/7/09, Identry iden...@gmail.com wrote: If you did not touch the kernel, there is no need to boot GENERIC! Plus you have said that this box is running PF, which is not in the GENERIC kernel! Personally, I am interested in knowing why the system does not mount the root partition on its own

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-07 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:25:38 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: It's nice to be able to go on vacation, without worrying about the servers back home craping out :) Vacation? Weekend! :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-07 Thread James Phillips
Thank-you for your replies. I guess my main concern was I'm not sure when to stop banging my head against the wall and ask for help. The checklist kind of goes like: Did you read the FAQ and release notes? Did you read the handbook? Did read the man pages? Did you search the mailing-list

RE: How is time zone change signalled?

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
I wonder if you'd get more insight by asking the question in -hackers. Perhaps there are some libc experts listening there. Well, I still haven't found the magic so I'll try my luck there... Thanks for the feedback. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
I think you should start by reading the manual pages for fsck and fsck_ffs. I would start with 'fsck_ffs -fp /dev/yourdevicenode'. Okay, back in the data center. I ran fsck_ffs -fp on my root file system and it returned with no errors. It just printed some information about number of files,

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Non-printable-character (NPC) NPCs may be a culprit for a file that used to work, now doesn't.  Or a inode oddity. I've been following this thread but haven't chipped in because of timing (you driving to the datacenter). Here's what I'd consider:  # mv /etc/fstab /etc/old-fstab and

Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2

2009-08-07 Thread James Phillips
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: Message: 6 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:04:16 +0200 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:51 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Windows experience won't

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Okay, back in the data center. I ran fsck_ffs -fp on my root file system and it returned with no errors. It just printed some information about number of files, used, free space, etc., ending with the interesting fact of .3% fragmentation. Then I reran it without the -fp and it printed Phase

Re: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ?

2009-08-07 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 06:54:52 Kalle Møller wrote: Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with plist ... Except it seemd to be a list of the files used ?? Try attached patch. Checking WITH_PYTHON now. Also fixed pkg-install while I was in there to respect a FLOWD_UID variable, so

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Identry
Well, something got worse. After running fsck_ffs with no errors, I tried to boot the machine. It got to the point where it printed: snip Booting from BIOS Partition 0 PS2 keyboard detected PS2 mouse detected and it just hangs at that point. Worse and worse... The machine won't boot from

Re: Mouse still crashes with Synaptics

2009-08-07 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 07 August 2009 03:21:30 Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, 06. Aug 2009, 15:37:34 -0800 schrieb Mel Flynn: On Thursday 06 August 2009 12:46:21 Bertram Scharpf wrote: You might get some help on freebsd-x11 list. As I mentioned twice I manage to reproduce the problem just

Re: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:41:57PM -0400, Identry wrote: Okay, back in the data center. I ran fsck_ffs -fp on my root file system and it returned with no errors. It just printed some information about number of files, used, free space, etc., ending with the interesting fact of .3%

Re: Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 11:47:58AM -0400, Identry wrote: Realize that if you upgrade to 7.x, you'll have to remove and reinstall all ports because the version number of shared system libraries will have changed. Yes, I've decided this is way too complicated. Or would it be safer to

Re: Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Tim Judd
On 8/7/09, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Looks like your hardware is dying/dead. Sadly, I agree. Reset BIOS CMOS data (hardware jumper on motherboard) Enter RAID controller BIOS, (re)set your boot drive But it looks like a fundamental BIOS control issue is malfunctioning. Do you

Re: Strange timing when reading from the serial port

2009-08-07 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Chris Stankevitz wrote: Q: What is the source of the alternating +/- 5ms bias that comes and goes every few seconds? This helps: add these lines to /boot/device.hints and reboot hint.sio.0.flags=0x20 hint.sio.1.flags=0x20 Chris ___

Re: Fwd: Boot failure

2009-08-07 Thread Michael Powell
Tim Judd wrote: On 8/7/09, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Looks like your hardware is dying/dead. Sadly, I agree. Reset BIOS CMOS data (hardware jumper on motherboard) Enter RAID controller BIOS, (re)set your boot drive But it looks like a fundamental BIOS control issue

Re: Cleaning email

2009-08-07 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: reading around the FAQ for FreeBSD mailing list, I see that the mailing list server does some message cleaning (converting HTML to text, etc). I don't want just any solution, that works more or less, but the very well tested solution used by

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:23:20PM +0100, RW wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g left KDE4 makes KDE3 look

Aggregate DSL connections with PF

2009-08-07 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
I found the following links online, I am wondering is this possible using pf and netgraph instead? http://www.michaelbrumm.com/how-to-aggregate-bandwidth.html http://www.mushroomnetworks.com/product.aspx?product_id=1009tab=features Sam Fourman Jr.