The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-02-01 - 2004-02-21

2004-02-22 Thread Dan Langille
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tripwire

2004-02-22 Thread Lucas Holt
Can someone recommend a program like tripwire for 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD?

i was using tripwire in 4.x but the port is broken in 5.x.

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Re: MySQL error 2013

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Hi Derrick Ryalls,
you wrote.

DR I have even tried firing up mysqld with --skip-grant-tables to no avail.

DR Googling around, I see lots of reference to glibc issues, but I thought
DR that only applied to Linux.  I have tried mysql41-server port (fresh
DR cvsup), mysql40, and a package mysql323, and they all have the same
DR issue.  That leads me to believe that the o/s has the issue, not mysql.
DR Does anyone have a clue on what I need to check/upgrade?

DR Current system:  FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Tue Oct  7


Does your MySQL daemon crash (look at /var/db/mysql/*err) ? Because I'm
currently seeing this on CURRENT, but STABLE works perfectly for me...




Regards,
Gabriel

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Re: tripwire

2004-02-22 Thread jan . muenther
 Can someone recommend a program like tripwire for 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD?

Tried this one here?

Port:   aide-0.9
Path:   /usr/ports/security/aide
Info:   A replacement and extension for Tripwire

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Re: Apache FreeBSD not executing

2004-02-22 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 07:02:04PM -0600, Pratt, Benjamin E. wrote:
 Hello -
  
 I'm trying to get my Apache web server up and running with PHP support but am 
 running into problems.  When I try to go to a .php web page I'm prompted to save the 
 page instead of having the browser show the page.
  
 I've installed both /usr/ports/www/apache21/ and /usr/ports/www/mod_php5/ and in my 
 httpd.conf file I've got the lines:
  
 LoadModule php5_modulelibexec/apache2/libphp5.so
 DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php
 AddType application/x-http-php .php
  
 I've had this running before but not since I formatted my system, installed FreeBSD 
 5.1 and then synced my source tree and upgraded the system.  I am now running 
 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 #2 from Sat Feb 21 13:55:19 CST 2004.
  
 I've also tried installing /usr/ports/lang/php5/ and /usr/ports/lang/php4/ and had 
 the same issues.
  
 Thanks for any help,

I run Apache2 with php5 on a FreeBSD 4 box and that works. In order for
PHP to work you need to set WITH_APACHE2 in the envorement. For csh
shell its: setenv WITH_APACHE2 yes

I have these for lines:
LoadModule php5_modulelibexec/apache2/libphp5.so
DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.html.var
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps


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Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use?

2004-02-22 Thread Alex de Kruijff
The website for freebsd is www.freebsd.org and on the main page you can
find the handbook which leads to www.freebsd.org/handbook

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obsolete files?

2004-02-22 Thread jsha

hello.

does make world leave obsolete files on your system
after install? without even the slightest effort to
remove them?

please say it isn't so. i like make world.

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Re: obsolete files?

2004-02-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 21 February 2004 11:24 pm, jsha wrote:
 hello.

 does make world leave obsolete files on your system
 after install? without even the slightest effort to
 remove them?

 please say it isn't so. i like make world.


Worse, it is known to cause fatal situations where you have to use the 
fixit disk to recover your system or do a reinstall. If you upgrade a 
kernel that panics, you will be committed to using the bad build. The 
installworld being run after the installkernel and reboot to single 
user mode is for your protection.

FWIW, even installworld leaves obsolete files on your system at various 
times.

Kent

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Re: CURRENT: RAID1: use vinum(8) or motherboard support (VIA VT8237)?

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Hi Burkard Meyendriesch,
you wrote.

BM Hi all,

BM for my new -CURRENT box I have to decide wether to use
BM vinum(8) or the on-board capabilities of my Asus K8V Deluxe
BM motherboard for RAID1 mirroring. Which solution would you
BM recommend?

Personally, I've always found vinum to be a rather weird piece of
software to work with, so I'd suggest you go for onboard RAID, but I0m
not sure if VT8237 RAID1 is supported right now (however, atacontrol
can also do RAID without any direct support for the chipset). If anything,
I'd also look into raid(4).



Regards,
Gabriel

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Re: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY

2004-02-22 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I have had the above error 2 times now during fsck after an unclean
shutdown. fsck -y yielded tons of entries in lost+found.
man (7) tuning says that softupdates guarantees filesystem consistency
in case of crash, but thousands of lost files tell a different story.
Did i miss anything? Or should i disable softupdates for important data?


Make sure you've disabled write caching on the drive firmware
itself... 
Does this also apply for RAID disks (twe)? Also, there is no word about 
this in man tuning(7). Is this more of a guess or is softupdates 
definately dangerous with wite cache enabled? I have also used 
softupdates with 4.9 and did not get these errors.


The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2


I hope you have read the Early Adopter's Guide:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2R/early-adopter.html
Yes i have and after asking others on this list, got the impression that 
5.2 is usable for the most common hardware and applications. But now i 
am seriously considering going back to 4.9

Thanks very much for your reply :-)

Heinrich
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Re: Hardware or software error ?

2004-02-22 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi list,

does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error?

#
 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 kernel:
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b64
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel:
 kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining...
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbcc
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbf4
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s
#
The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2


More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either.  
Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list?
I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit 
that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install 
does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the 
dump?

Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which 
seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more 
experiments.

Thank ayou for your help anyway.

	Heinrich

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Phone : +49/421/218-4664
Fax   :-3341
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Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Hi Heinrich Rebehn,
you wrote.

 Make sure you've disabled write caching on the drive firmware
 itself... 
HR Does this also apply for RAID disks (twe)? Also, there is no word about
HR this in man tuning(7). Is this more of a guess or is softupdates 
HR definately dangerous with wite cache enabled?

I'd say it's the other way round: write cache is dangerous with
softupdates. Softupdates itself is certainly better than no
softupdates, even if it takes a slight performance drop by disabling
write cache.

I think you should disable the write cache on the 3ware cache (not
sure whether there actually is one, mine don't come with any RAM
sockets) anyway as you'll lose all data in there in the event of a
crash.




Regards,
Gabriel

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Re: Hardware or software error ?

2004-02-22 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi list,

does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error?

#
 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 kernel:
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b64
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel:
 kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining...
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbcc
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbf4
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s
#
The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2


More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either.  
Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list?
I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit
that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install
does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the
dump?
Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which
seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more
experiments.
Update: This morning's crash (which i forget in the mail before):

#
ntpd[470]: too many recvbufs allocated (40) 

cron[8309]: login_getclass: unknown class 'des_users' 

syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel 

kernel: 

kernel: 

kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode 

kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 

kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4c 

kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present 

kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc04cc807 

kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe2a8 

kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe2c8 

kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b 

kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 

kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 

kernel: current process = 38 (usbtask) 

kernel: trap number = 12 

kernel: panic: page fault 

kernel: cpuid = 0; 

kernel: 

kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... 7137 7117 7117 7117 7117 
7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 
7117 7117
kernel: giving up on 4591 buffers 

kernel: Uptime: 14h28m36s 

kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 
0x34, scsi status == 0x88


The giving up on   Buffers is also typical for 5.2. I rarely had 
it with 4.9. Unfortunately, all disks are marked dirty then, even if it 
is only 1 buffer.

Thank ayou for your help anyway.

	Heinrich

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University of Bremen
Physics / Electrical and Electronics Engineering
- Department of Telecommunications -
Phone : +49/421/218-4664
Fax   :-3341
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Re: C++ Memory Profiling/Debugging

2004-02-22 Thread David Carter-Hitchin
Hi Lou,

Thanks - I'll give it a spin.  I read with some reservation on
http://dmalloc.com/:

Dmalloc is not as good with C++ as C because the dynamic memory routines
in C++ are new() and delete() as opposed to malloc() and free(). Since new
and delete are usually not used as functions but rather as x = new type,
there is no easy way for dmalloc to pass in file and line information
unfortunately. The `libdmallocxx.a' library provides the file
`dmallocc.cc' which effectively redirects new to the more familiar malloc
and delete to the more familiar free.

I'll give it a go anyway.

Wonder if there is a C++ friendly debug tool out there...

Thanks,
David

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Louis LeBlanc wrote:

 On 02/21/04 12:48 AM, David Carter-Hitchin sat at the `puter and typed:
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone out there know a good C++ memory profiling/debugging tool for
  FBSD?  I'm looking for a tool like valgrind or purify.  I grepped around
  in the ports directory and I found ElectricFence and mprof but these
  seem to be for C only (as they refer exclusively to malloc  free).
  bohem-gc sounds like the kind of package I'm after - but I thought I ask
  in case anyone has better ideas... ?

 devel/dmalloc is pretty good.  I'm using it with C on Solaris, but all
 you do is basically link its library into your process, set a few
 environment variables, and it will dump a complete list of statistics,
 based on the values of the environment variables.  The most valuable
 statistic is the origin of every single memory allocation that is not
 freed.  Simply track those made by your code (file name and line
 number of the malloc are given) and fix them.  I found it MUCH easier
 to integrate and use than Efence or Purify.

 If your process dynamically allocates memory that isn't intended to be
 freed, like for internal structure allocation through the life of the
 process, you might include a routine that frees such pointers in your
 cleanup process.  I have a number of things I have to clear that
 aren't intended to be freed during the life of the process, so I
 simply added them within a conditional precompiler block that only
 gets compiled when I'm building a memory debuggable version.

 You wouldn't believe the memory leaks I found in (someone else's)
 production code with this tool.  HIGHLY recommended.

 Good luck.

  Please cc me on any replies - I had to drop out of this list sometime ago
  as the sheer volume was killing my mailbox...

 I know what you mean . . .

 Lou
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Re: [FAQ pointer] Re: Copy old drive to new drive - is it possible?

2004-02-22 Thread Tig
On 21 Feb 2004 09:41:19 -0500
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi, I have a hard drive which is on its last legs. I also have new
  hard drive to replace the old one. I was wondering if it is possible
  to simply copy everything from the old drive to the new (after
  formating the new drive) and have my system back up and running, or
  do I need to reinstall the OS and everything else?
 
 How do I move my system over to my huge new disk?
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK
 

Just for the record. The FAQ link above was very helpful and I now have
my old, single disk installation spread across two new, fat hard disks
and everything is working great. dump | restore was also very easy to
use and very quick.

Thanks heaps!

-Tig

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Re: Hardware or software error ?

2004-02-22 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Heinrich Rebehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi list,

does anybody have a clue, if the following is a hard or software error?

#
 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 kernel:
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b3c
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe11f6b64
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 29 (swi1: net)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel:
 kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining...
 kernel:
 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00
 kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4
 kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0533f98
 kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbcc
 kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe124bbf4
 kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
 kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
 kernel: current process = 26 (irq15: xl0 ata1+)
 kernel: trap number = 12
 kernel: panic: page fault
 kernel: cpuid = 0;
 kernel: Uptime: 3d10h11m49s
#
The system is running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2


More likely to be a software problem, although it could be either.  
Could you take a kernel dump to the -CURRENT list?
I'm afraid my system is not set up to enable crash dumps. I must admit
that i never cared about this, and unfortunately, the default install
does not seem to enable it either. If i am wrong: where would i find the
dump?
Also, since this is our main server, i prefer going back to 4.9 which
seems to be more solid than 5.2 :-(. I simply don't have time to do more
experiments.
Update: This morning's crash (which i forget in the mail before):

#
ntpd[470]: too many recvbufs allocated (40)
cron[8309]: login_getclass: unknown class 'des_users'

syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel

kernel:

kernel:

kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode

kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00

kernel: fault virtual address   = 0x4c

kernel: fault code  = supervisor read, page not present

kernel: instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc04cc807

kernel: stack pointer   = 0x10:0xe2a8

kernel: frame pointer   = 0x10:0xe2c8

kernel: code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b

kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1

kernel: processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0

kernel: current process = 38 (usbtask)

kernel: trap number = 12

kernel: panic: page fault

kernel: cpuid = 0;

kernel:

kernel: syncing disks, buffers remaining... 7137 7117 7117 7117 7117
7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117 7117
7117 7117
kernel: giving up on 4591 buffers
kernel: Uptime: 14h28m36s

kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status ==
0x34, scsi status == 0x88

The giving up on   Buffers is also typical for 5.2. I rarely had
it with 4.9. Unfortunately, all disks are marked dirty then, even if it
is only 1 buffer.
Update:

I changed my mind and will continue to try 5.2. I disabled softupdates 
to get rid of the softupdates inconsistency error and set up the 
machine to enable crash dumps, as described in
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
I also clocked down the AMD XP1800+ CPU to 100 MHz bus clock to reduce 
possible hardware instability.
All we have to now is wait for the next crash ;-)

Heinrich
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Re: framebuffer fro freebsd

2004-02-22 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Rahul Sawarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  is there a framebuffer port for freebsd?
i want to run my console in 1024x768.
 
 Why would you want a framebuffer for that?
 Do you have frame grabber hardware or something?
 
 If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the 
 text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't
 understand the connection to a frame buffer...

Is it just me or does vidcontrol look ugly when compared to Linux's
console framebuffer that allows high-resolution console displays?

-lewiz.

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Re: framebuffer fro freebsd

2004-02-22 Thread Rahul Sawarkar
Have you tried switching to 1024x768 mode using vidcontrol. I tried and did not suceed on 
my last hardware which was a mvp4 chipset with an 8mb blade3d graphics. Right now I have a 
radeon 7500 on a 440bx chipset. I'd assumed it wouldn't work, this time  around also (ref: 
the url below), but maybe I should give it a try.
So anyways I figured, maybe a framebufer driver would enable switching

Thanks for any tips on this front.



http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-June/009789.html

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Rahul Sawarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


is there a framebuffer port for freebsd?
 i want to run my console in 1024x768.


Why would you want a framebuffer for that?
Do you have frame grabber hardware or something?
If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the 
text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't
understand the connection to a frame buffer...

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Re: framebuffer fro freebsd

2004-02-22 Thread Rahul Sawarkar
Maybe you are using the wrong fonts.Did you try both the 8x8 and 16x16 fonts?

Rgrds

 Is it just me or does vidcontrol look ugly when compared to Linux's
 console framebuffer that allows high-resolution console displays?

 -lewiz.

Lewis Thompson wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 04:58:53PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Rahul Sawarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

is there a framebuffer port for freebsd?
 i want to run my console in 1024x768.
Why would you want a framebuffer for that?
Do you have frame grabber hardware or something?
If all you want is a 1024x768 video mode driving the 
text console, vidcontrol(1) can do that, but I don't
understand the connection to a frame buffer...


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authentication using openldap client.

2004-02-22 Thread falaki
Hello;
My FreeBSD 4.9 server has to authenticate it’s users through Openldap
client from a Linux server. I have installed openldap-client-2.1.22 and
pam_ldap-1.6.4. The ldapsearch gives the correct answer whet it is
invoked with necessary arguments.
I tried to configure pam.conf so that is uses pam_ldap.so for
authentication and I tested many cases ( changing the arguments and
things like this) but nobody can log in. I want to know if other things
except pam.conf must be configured and if pam.conf must be configured can
anybody send me a sample.

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Re: obsolete files?

2004-02-22 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 08:24:28AM +0100, jsha wrote:
 
 hello.
 
 does make world leave obsolete files on your system
 after install? without even the slightest effort to
 remove them?
 
 please say it isn't so. i like make world.

Hi,

If it does then its written down in the handbook under the cutting edge.

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Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use?

2004-02-22 Thread Aaron Peterson
 The website for freebsd is www.freebsd.org and on the main page you can
 find the handbook which leads to www.freebsd.org/handbook

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and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 1
add on programs.  man program name
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Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Eduardo Fernandes
how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2?

Tanks 

Eduardo Fernandes
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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
At 05:04 PM 2/21/2004, Chuck Swiger wrote:
Marty Landman wrote:

looks like arp is unreliable for a canonical list of plugged in ip's. 
Curious about what would work.
nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24 should do it
%nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Target host specification is illegal.
QUITTING!
%
I don't understand the man page though so assume it's me, not nmap.

ping 192.168.0.255
%ping 192.168.0.255
PING 192.168.0.255 (192.168.0.255): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.964 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.160: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1.359 ms (DUP!)
^C
Hmm, since there are five nodes on my class c network this didn't do the 
trick either.

I wrote a quick perl script that I think works but so slowly that it's 
impractical:

%perl -e 'for(0..255) {$ip = 192.168.0.$_;$ping = `ping -c1 $ip`;print 
$ip\n if $ping =~ /64 bytes from/}'
192.168.0.0
192.168.0.1
192.168.0.3

.
.
.


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reserving ATA channel numbers in kernel configuration files

2004-02-22 Thread Dan Strick
Is there any way to reserve specific ATA channel numbers for specific
PCI ATA controllers?

During bootstrap my kernel says:

atapci0: ITE 8212 ATA/RAID controller port 0x8800-0x880f,
0x8400-0x8403,0x8010-0x8017,0x7c00-0x7c03,0x7810-0x7817
irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci3
ata2: at 0x7810 on atapci0
ata3: at 0x8010 on atapci0

atapci1: Intel ICH5 ATA100 controller port 0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3,
0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 9 at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1

atapci2: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port 0xd000-0xd00f,
0xcc00-0xcc03,0xc800-0xc807,0xc400-0xc403,0xc000-0xc007
irq 9 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata4: at 0xc000 on atapci2
ata5: at 0xc800 on atapci2

The relevant part of my kernel configuration file currently says:

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata0at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device  ata1at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
...
options ATA_STATIC_ID   #Static device numbering

I want the ICH5 SATA150 channels to be ata2 and ata3.

Thanks,
Dan Strick
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Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines

2004-02-22 Thread Tony Frank
Hi,

On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:23:28AM -0600, D J Hawkey Jr wrote:
 On Feb 21, at 05:56 PM, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
  
  DJHJ Second, two machines are of the same architecture, but they have different
  DJHJ CPUs: One is an Intel PIII, but the other is a PII. Will the world built
  DJHJ on a PIII be correct for a PII? Similarly, will the kernel for the PII
  DJHJ built on a PIII be correct for the PII, given the different variables and
  DJHJ settings in the two kernel configuration files?
  
  Just make sure you build for 686. If that doesn't work, make it 586 (I
  think the PI qualifies as 686 but I'm not entirely sure). I think the extensions 
  such as
  SSE etc are detected dynamically and shouldn't cause any problem.
  In all my years of messing with builds, I never run into this problem,
  so I guess it's pretty safe.
 Yes, both [my] machines define I686_CPU.
 
 Dynamically, as in at runtime? I think you're right, but I don't
 know for certain, either. This is exactly what I'm wondering about;
 the PII has only MMX, for instance, while the PIII has SSE and MMX2.
 
 I assume the world's codebase is CPU-agnostic within an architecture,
 but I really don't want to assume this; I'd rather know this.

I have PII, Celeron, PIII and P4 in my environment.
All these use I686_CPU in my kernel configs (I got rid of the other I[345]_CPU types.

In /etc/make.conf I include CPUTYPE=p2 as the lowest common denominator if 
including a CPUTYPE flag.
The resulting world  kernel run fine on all the systems.

The higher flags p3 and p4 still just use -march=pentiumpro, however for SSE you
will need p3 or p4 as MACHINE_CPU does not include SSE for p2 level.
Check out /usr/share/mk/bsd.cpu.mk for specifics.

  DJHJ /etc/defaults/make.conf doesn't mention KERNCONF; /usr/src/Makefile.inc1
  DJHJ does. Since /usr/share/mk/sys.mk sucks in /etc/make.conf, that should
  DJHJ propogate KERNCONF to /usr/src/Makefile, right?
  You can also
  just supply it on the command line when doing your make runs.
 Yes, but this means individual commands for each machine's kernel, as
 opposed to one command for all machines (think issue command and go to
 bed, or even an `at` command). Are you stating definitively that what
 I saw in the makefile chain isn't what is really there?

To your original question, yes.
Just add a KERNCONF= line to /etc/make.conf.
First entry should be the local machine kernel (to install) and
any subsequent entries will also be built during 'make buildkernel'
eg:
KERNCONF=   MARVIN RAIDER RAIDERI GENERIC

make buildkernel builds all four.
make installkernel installs MARVIN.

Good luck,

Tony

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seeking shell scripting resources

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
I'm new to running my own unix systems and would like to start learning the 
ropes on shell scripting. I've looked at the handbook and a few other 
sources... maybe haven't looked closely enough.

Any recommendations on more involved manuals/explanations/examples of how 
shell scripts should be developed and used?

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Re: Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Michael Hollmann
download the latest nvidia treiber for freebsd from http://www.nvidia.com
and read the README.

regards michael

 how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2?

 Tanks

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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Marty Landman wrote:

 At 05:04 PM 2/21/2004, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Marty Landman wrote:
 
 looks like arp is unreliable for a canonical list of plugged in ip's.
 Curious about what would work.
 
 nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24 should do it

 %nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24

 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
 Target host specification is illegal.
 QUITTING!

Hi!


The syntax to ping a whole /24 segment would be:

nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24

this will work.

after this you will also have some output from the arp -a command,
because the arp cache has to be filled somehow.

HTH
Olaf
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[Fwd: Do I need Mozilla-1.6 and Mozilla-GTK2-1.6?]

2004-02-22 Thread Bob Perry
Please disregard.

 Original Message 
Subject:Do I need Mozilla-1.6 and Mozilla-GTK2-1.6?
Date:   Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:54:58 -0500
From:   Bob Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FreeBSD-Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello,

Just upgrade to 4.9-RELEASE and CVSup'd my system today.
pkg_version -v listed mozilla-gtk2-1.6_2  as ? orphaned:
www/mozilla-gtk2.   Also have mozilla-1.6_2,2 which was my
original browser.  If I remember correctly, the gtk2 version
appeared after installing Galeon2 and provided additional code
that Galeon2 needed.
Ran pkgdb -Fv  and it referenced duplicate origins for the two
mozilla files and prompted me to unregister one.  I responded no
because of Galeon2.  No was also the default.
Ran pkg_version -v again and the gtk2 version is no longer an
orphan but just needs updating to 1.6_2,2, same version as my
original mozilla.
Fresh Ports indicates that GTK2 is now the default version, but
at the same time marks the file with an x, as in Deleted: This
port has been removed from the ports tree.
Can I deinstall the gtk2 version and not effect Galeon2?  Did I
ever need both mozilla-1.6 and mozilla-GTK2-1.6?
Thanks,
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Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use?

2004-02-22 Thread David Fleck
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Aaron Peterson wrote:
 and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 1
 add on programs.  man program name

...with *each* of them?  Ah, if only that were true..
dcf$ man aspell
No manual entry for aspell


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Re: seeking shell scripting resources

2004-02-22 Thread David Fleck
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Julien Gabel wrote:
 Haven't found much around at all on shell programming and would like
 to start learning it. Any more resources would be most welcome to find
 out about.

Shells differ in their programming constructs, so anything you learn in
one shell may not be transferrable to others.  As a personal preference, I
usually try to write scripts for /bin/sh (for portability), unless I need
a ksh or bash construct.  bash is a variant of sh, with a lot of bells and
whistles added, so techniques that work in bash *usually* work in sh (and
ksh).

With that preface, you might try http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ as a
start.  It's bash-oriented, but a lot if it will apply to other shells (sh
and ksh, not so much csh and tcsh) as well.

And your system scripts are also an excellent place to learn by example.


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Re: Fail to start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all folks,
 
 Version 5.2
 new installation
 
 I encountered problem in starting KDE after installation.
 
 1)
 KDE installed
 pkg_info | grep kde
 kde-3.1.4 The meta-port for KDE
 kdeaddons-3.1.4 Additional plugins and scripts for some KDE applications
 kdeadmin-3.1.4 KDE applications related to system administration
 kdeartwork-3.1.4_1 Additional themes, sounds, wallpapers and window 
 styles for
 kdebase-3.1.4 This package provides the basic applications for the KDE sy
 kdeedu-3.1.4 Collection of entertaining, educational programs for KDE
 kdegames-3.1.4 Games for the KDE integrated X11 desktop
 kdegraphics-3.1.4 Graphics utilities for the KDE3 integrated X11 desktop
 kdelibs-3.1.4_1 This is the base set of libraries needed by KDE programs
 kdemultimedia-3.1.4 Multimedia utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop
 kdenetwork-3.1.4 Network-related programs and modules for KDE
 kdepim-3.1.4 Personal Information Management tools for KDE
 kdesdk-3.1.4 KDE Software Development Kit
 kdetoys-3.1.4 Small applications for KDE
 kdeutils-3.1.4 Utilities for the KDE integrated X11 desktop
 kdevelop-2.1.5 Powerful IDE for developing KDE/Qt-based apps
 
 2)
 /home/user/.xinitrc file not found
 
 ls -al /home/user/
 total 22
 drwxr-xr-x 2 satimis wheel 512 Feb 23 05:58 .
 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Feb 23 07:16 ..
 -rw--- 1 satimis wheel 0 Feb 23 05:58 .Xauthority
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 767 Feb 23 07:16 .cshrc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 248 Feb 23 07:16 .login
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 158 Feb 23 07:16 .login_conf
 -rw--- 1 satimis wheel 373 Feb 23 07:16 .mail_aliases
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 331 Feb 23 07:16 .mailrc
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 797 Feb 23 07:16 .profile
 -rw--- 1 satimis wheel 276 Feb 23 07:16 .rhosts
 -rw-r--r-- 1 satimis wheel 975 Feb 23 07:16 .shrc
 -rw--- 1 satimis wheel 106 Feb 23 05:58 .xsession-errors
 
 3)
 cat /home/user/.xsession-errors
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: No protocol specified
 Error: Can't open display: :0
 
 Kindly advise how to fix the problems.
 
 TIA
 
 B.R.
 satimis
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Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single
line 'startkde ' (without the quotes).  Then try startx again.


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Re: MySQL error 2013

2004-02-22 Thread Erik Greenwald
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:38:11PM -0800, Derrick Ryalls wrote:
snip
 Googling around, I see lots of reference to glibc issues, but I thought
 that only applied to Linux.  I have tried mysql41-server port (fresh
 cvsup), mysql40, and a package mysql323, and they all have the same
 issue.  That leads me to believe that the o/s has the issue, not mysql.
 Does anyone have a clue on what I need to check/upgrade?
 
 Current system:  FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Tue Oct  7

yeah, glibc would be linux only... but there're a couple pr's for this
issue on freebsd right now. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/62845
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=misc/63213

(currently, there is no fix.. the workaround is to connect via a local
socket/pipe).

Mind if I ask what cpu/mb you're operating on?

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ISP dialing with callback

2004-02-22 Thread Kyryll A Mirnenko
  This topic seems to be an elder one, but nobody around couldn't help
me. I need to setup ppp (user) to dial to my callback-ISP. Here're
useful info:

1). IPS uses PAP authentification.
2). Phone number negotiation is unsupported, I need to send it.

When using Windows ppp-dialer (really buggy), everything is OK, so
that's not ISP problem. Direct connection  authentification goes
right, but no incoming call after that. I browsed my logs  only
strange thing I found is there was no phone number I should send (at
least in the readable part, not in the packages sent). Here're my
configs (truncated with dummy logins  passwords :) - the provider
entry is sitel:

[ /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ]

default:
 set log phase tun chat cbcp command pap
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

 set device /dev/cual0

 set speed 38400
 set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \
   \\ AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDP\\T TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT
 set timeout 180# 3 minute idle timer (the default)
 enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf)
 enable vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1
 accept vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1
 set urgent udp +53

sitel:
 set phone 2053203
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 add default HISADDR
 set callback auth cbcp E.164 6661313
 set cbcp 6661313
 
incoming:
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD

[ /etc/ppp/ppp.secret ]

CALLER  MYPASSWORD  *   *   6661313

[ /etc/ttys ]

console noneunknown off secure
#
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv8   /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xtermu  off secure
#
ttyd0   /usr/libexec/getty callback1  dialup  on
# AND SO ON...

[ /etc/gettytab ]

default:\
:cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:\
:if=/etc/issue:

# my callback account
callback1|38400-baud:\
:np:sp#38400:pp=/etc/ppp/callback.ppp:

# AND OTHERS...

[ /etc/ppp/callback.ppp ]

#!/bin/sh
echo !!! Incoming call. Use kill -TERM $$ to kill it... | wall -g wheel
exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct incoming

  That's all. If have a solution or any experience in setting-up
user-ppp callback, reply (workable configs won't be out of place).

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Re: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY

2004-02-22 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
Hello Heinrich,

Sunday, February 22, 2004, 5:00:27 PM, you wrote:

Why that? I can imagine that i lose data in case of a power failure, but
why in case of a crash?


Well I guess the card COULD still commit the data, however, who knows
if it actually does it?

And why is write cache only dangerous with softupdates, as you wrote above?


IIRC softupdates relies on the assumption that when the softupdate
changes return, they really ARE on the disk. It's the same with most
RDBMS: because they go to great lengths to ensure the journal is in an
ok state they need to know for sure that the data they wrote to it
actually made it to disk.

Since i found no word about disabling write cache in the FreeBSD
handbook or in man tuning(7), i would really like to know, if this is
just a rumour, or where does it come from?


I can't say for sure, but I have little confidence in write caching
anyhow. It changes semantics the system relies on, for one.


Best regards,
 Gabriel
Gabriel,
what you write does make sense, although i really can't understand why 
this important info is not in the FreeBSD documentation.
I have disabled write cache, but i will keep softupdates disabled as 
well for now, and see how the system behaves.

Thanks for your help,

	Heinrich

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Re: Is inetd a proxy server?

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
At 11:12 AM 2/22/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:

A proxy listens to all of your request, and then opens up a second 
connection to the real server (or another
proxy) for you and replays your request to it -- so all of the traffic is 
relayed through the proxy.
Newbie here Matthew. Could you please explain how a proxy differs from a 
router? Or are they in many ways intersecting in their functionality? e.g. 
I've got a class c network in my office and recently learned how to use 
apache to reverse proxy a request so that http://my-ip-adr/fbsd becomes the 
same as http://fbsd, where the latter is mapped to the ip addr for my fbsd 
box on the lan by apache. (which btw is kind of cool)

The point of having inetd(8) is that it provides is a mechanism so that 
you don't have to have umpty-dozen different small servers running all of 
the time and taking up your process space.
I notice that mingetty runs ~ half a dozen instances on my box, waiting for 
console users that will never come since as a rule I do everything thru ssh 
on my windows workstation. And httpd, though I've cut the child process 
spec down on the apache conf since it's not needed. Of course the saved 
cycles aren't needed either in my current environment. :)

Could httpd be set up to run via inetd instead of on its own? If so, is it 
not typically done this way because it is usually the biggie app on 
servers? Following that reasoning, if a server were primarily used for ftp 
would it make sense to remove ftpd from inetd's conf file and instead start 
it as a service, assuming that were possible?

Marty Landman   Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387
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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Marty Landman wrote:

 At 09:42 AM 2/22/2004, Olaf Hoyer wrote:

 The syntax to ping a whole /24 segment would be:

 Hi Olaf. Could you please explain what is meant by '/24 segment'? I'm new
 to networking as you can see!


Hi!

Well, what is formerly called a Class C network is now in the new
CIDR-notation a /24, meaning that there are 256 IP's in that network.

A class A is a /8, a class B a /16.

Yes, there are some subtle differencies about how a router addresses
this, but for size they are the same.

 # nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24

 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
 sendto in send_ip_raw: sendto(4, packet, 28, 0, 192.168.0.8, 16) = Can't
 assign requested address
 Sleeping 60 seconds then retrying

Seems to be a bug with nmap V3.00
I use 3.50, and it works. Solution could be an upgrade or exclusion of
your own box from the scanning range.

 after this you will also have some output from the arp -a command,
 because the arp cache has to be filled somehow.

 swamisalami# arp -a
 ? (192.168.0.0) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet]
 delliver (192.168.0.1) at 00:08:74:c0:5e:69 on ep0 [ethernet]
 woody (192.168.0.3) at 00:a0:cc:40:3e:9b on ep0 [ethernet]
 swamisalami (192.168.0.7) at 00:20:af:4d:24:b7 on ep0 permanent [ethernet]
 ? (192.168.0.8) at (incomplete) on ep0 [ethernet]
 penguin (192.168.0.160) at 00:a0:24:75:04:49 on ep0 [ethernet]
 eileen (192.168.0.240) at 00:a0:cc:40:55:cf on ep0 [ethernet]
 ? (192.168.0.255) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff on ep0 permanent [ethernet]
 swamisalami#

 Ok, not sure why the output was broken up into two portions but it has now
 captured all the nodes on my box. Furthermore a subsequent arp -a gives a
 more usable output e.g.

snip


 Did you mean then that I should run the nmap followed by the arp -a to get
 a look at all nodes on my class c network? In this case it seems the only
 thing needed for me to put this into a shell script is a way to not have to
 manually interrupt the nmap which seemed to want to keep trying, after
 sleeping for progressively longer periods of time. Unless there is a glitch
 to be worked around somehow on 192.168.0.8 (never in use on my network
 afaik) and that what happened here was not typical behavior.

Ok, some basics beforehand:

anytime some hosts wants to contact another host, it yells with some
broadcast on the local collision segment (arp-request) that the Station,
which has IP-address a.b.c.d. sprays the answer (the MAC-Address on
the other station) back throughout the segment.
This answer is cached by the OS for a short time, that for future use no
unnecessary lookups have to be made.

This means, that, if you hook up a station to a LAN, which did not
participiated in any of the LAN traffic, the arp cache on that station
is of course empty.

One way to fill it, is by simply pinging all other hosts on that
segment.

like:

#!/bin/sh
ping 192.168.0.1
ping 192.168.0.2
.
.
.
ping 192.168.0.254

nmap -sP does exactly the same above, but with less typing effort ;-)


For each station that is up and running, you get a MAC address back, and
therefore the arp cache is populated.

 It would be a nice utility for me to have and perhaps run off cron - i.e.
 to test each connection on my network and report back so I know on a steady
 basis that everything's up and running (or at least reachable).

Yes, would be practicable. You should consider updating nmap, though...

HTH
Olaf


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Re: Fail to start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Chris
On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800


 Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single
 line 'startkde ' (without the quotes).  Then try startx again.


Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xinitrc 
file.

exec startkde
startkde 

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Re: Kernel build problem after make world

2004-02-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 22 February 2004 04:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I upgraded my system from RELEASE 5.0 to RELENG_5_2.
 Used cvsup to get the sources, made buildworld; made a generic
 kernel; installed world. Everything went well, i was able to boot
 into multi-user mode.

 BUT now i would like build a custom kernel. This doesnt work anymore.
 I tried it both ways. (make builkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL,
 or config MYKERNEL, make depend; make;)

 The kernel sources seem to compile, but when the linker starts my
 screen is flooded with unknown Unknown referernces errors

 Would anybody known what causes this?
 Should there be some magic new entry in /etc/make.conf?


For starters, I think we would need to see the messages. What has me 
concerned is whether you installed your kernel before you did the 
installworld. Version 5.2 has a different statfs, which needs the new 
kernel to run. An old world and a new kernel was fine but an old kernel 
and a new world was a show stopper. You had to use the fixit disk to 
recover your system. 

There are different options in the config file for 5.2 and you would 
need to start with a new GENERIC to create your MYKERNEL. Beyond that, 
I don't have any ideas at this point.

Kent

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xsnow not building

2004-02-22 Thread Noah

FreeBSD 4.8-stable

still getting used to installing X applications here:

xsnow is not building from /usr/ports


# make install clean   [/usr/ports/x11/xsnow]
===  Vulnerability check disabled
 xsnow-1.42.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 Attempting to fetch from http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Xsnow/.
Receiving xsnow-1.42.tar.gz (56752 bytes): 100%
56752 bytes transferred in 19.6 seconds (2.83 kBps)
===  Extracting for xsnow-1.42
 Checksum OK for xsnow-1.42.tar.gz.
===  Patching for xsnow-1.42
===   xsnow-1.42 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/date.def - found
===   xsnow-1.42 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
===  Configuring for xsnow-1.42
env: xmkmf: No such file or directory
*** Error code 127


--- snip ---

% pkg_info | grep XFree86   [~]
XFree86-3.3.6_11X11R6.3/XFree86 core distribution
XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86
imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86

--- snip ---

any clues here?
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gnome2 install failed

2004-02-22 Thread Noah
Hi,

I am attempting to install gnome2 

any clues what I am missing here.  why is pkg-config so old? how do I update it?


checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
configure: error: *** pkg-config too old; version 0.14 or better required.
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the
/usr/ports/devel/glib20/work/glib-2.2.3/config.log including the output of
the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libgtop2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnomeapplets2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2.



- Noah

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Re: Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Uwe Laverenz
Eduardo Fernandes wrote:

how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2?
AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time 
I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched 
back to RELENG_4.

cu,
Uwe
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Re: xsnow not building

2004-02-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 22 February 2004 09:16 am, Noah wrote:
 FreeBSD 4.8-stable

 still getting used to installing X applications here:

 xsnow is not building from /usr/ports


 # make install clean   [/usr/ports/x11/xsnow]
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled

  xsnow-1.42.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
  Attempting to fetch from http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Xsnow/.

 Receiving xsnow-1.42.tar.gz (56752 bytes): 100%
 56752 bytes transferred in 19.6 seconds (2.83 kBps)
 ===  Extracting for xsnow-1.42

  Checksum OK for xsnow-1.42.tar.gz.

 ===  Patching for xsnow-1.42
 ===   xsnow-1.42 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/date.def
 - found ===   xsnow-1.42 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found
 ===  Configuring for xsnow-1.42
 env: xmkmf: No such file or directory
 *** Error code 127


 --- snip ---

 % pkg_info | grep XFree86   [~]
 XFree86-3.3.6_11X11R6.3/XFree86 core distribution
 XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
 XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
 XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
 XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
 XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
 imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86
 imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86

 --- snip ---

 any clues here?

You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2. You 
need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an 
XFREE86_VERSION in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway you 
would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did.

It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At this 
point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I would 
think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are some 
problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are using new 
make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems. 

A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now.

Kent

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Re: Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sunday 22 February 2004 18:29, Uwe Laverenz wrote:
 AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time
 I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched
 back to RELENG_4.

Well... it works great under 5.2.

$ cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver
$ make install clean

$ uname -a
FreeBSD bsdbox.lphp.local 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 #0: Sat Feb 21 21:13:50 
CET 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDBOX  i386

$ kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 15 0xc040 41f5dc   kernel
 21 0xc082 1ac8a4   nvidia.ko
 31 0xc09cd000 51b48acpi.ko

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Re: Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2004 18:29 schrieb Uwe Laverenz:
 Eduardo Fernandes wrote:
  how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2?

 AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last time
 I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I switched
 back to RELENG_4.

They are working like a charm for 5.2 and even for -current.
They just don't work with the new libptherad (aka libkse) but there's a note 
in UPDATING what to do if one likes to use the nvidia driver with recent 
-current.

-Harry


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 Uwe
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Re: xsnow not building

2004-02-22 Thread Noah
O
 
 You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2. 
 You need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an 
 XFREE86_VERSION in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway 
 you would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did.
 
 It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At 
 this point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I 
 would think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are 
 some problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are 
 using new make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems.
 
 A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now.



thanks Kent,

I understand what I need to do now. 
well my /usr/ports have teh 4.3.0 version now.  so I dont know how I can
install 4.2 core distribution

also I am cvsup'ing the stable files every night. 

how can I guarantee that I am receiving the 4.9-stable files?

this is the entry I am using:

--- snip ---
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
--- snip ---

should that work - how can I verify that its the 4.9 kernel and system files I
am receiving?

thanks in advance,

- Noah


 

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Creative Extigy with FreeBSD 4.9?

2004-02-22 Thread Eric Rescorla
I've got a 4.9 machine which I'd like to interface to my Creative Extigy
external amp for playing MP3s and the like.  For obvious reasons, I'd
like to have that connection be digital. After some research, it looks
like there are two choices:

(1) SPDIF
I've got an Asus P4C-800E mainboard with a built-in interface
that dmesg reports as:

pcm0: Intel ICH5 (82801EB) port 0xee80-0xeebf,0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff400-0xf
ebff4ff,0xfebff800-0xfebff9ff irq 5 at device 31.5 on pci0
pcm0: Analog Devices AD1985 AC97 Codec

The card has an SPDIF output, but I'm not sure how to get mplayer
(or anything else) to actually use it. I've installed mplayer out
of ports and from reading the not very clear documentation, it
looks like -ac hwac3 should do the trick, but what I get when
I try that is:

==
Forced audio codec: hwac3
*** Try to upgrade /users/ekr/.mplayer/codecs.conf from etc/codecs.conf
*** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html!
Cannot find codec for audio format 0x55.
==

(2) USB
The Extigy has a USB plug in the front so I would think I could
use uaudio, but it's even more unclear to me how that works.
When I plugged it in, nothing interesting happened (i.e. nothing
on the console or syslog suggesting that it even saw the device).
usbd is running.

Any suggestions here would be great!

Thanks,
-Ekr



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Wrong Geometry Disk Problem (Seagate ST3200822A - 200 GB)

2004-02-22 Thread David Markle
Hello all,
 
I have a problem installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto a Seagate Barracuda
ST3200822A - 200 GB ATA/100 Hard Drive.  Being a bit gun shy from a
previous geometry problem mis-install where I almost lost some serious
data, I am reluctant to just try things until they work.  So here goes
...
 
Using the Seagate disk tool, I created a 120 GB NTFS partition and a 200
MB FAT16 partition.  Installed Windows XP on the 120 GB part.  I want to
put FreeBSD on the remaining space (~80 GB).
 
The Seagate HD utility states the following:
 
LBA Sectors are 390,721,968.
Standard 512 bytes per sector.
 
XBIOS Physical (and HD Spec Sheet from manufacture) (what BSD FDISK Sees
too).
C16383
H16
S63
 
BIOS 
C24321
H255
S63
 
When the FreeBSD CD boots and enters sysinstall, I get the usual drive
geometry error.  I've extensively searched google for some sort of
method to calculate the true drive geometry with little success.  
 
1. Is the above BIOS info correct ??  
2. Ultimately, do I want the drive geometry to match up with the LBA
sectors ??
3. Can anyone point me towards something that correctly calculates any
drive's TRUE geometry ??
 
Any help is greatly appreciated...
 
david markle
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Re: xsnow not building

2004-02-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 22 February 2004 09:44 am, Noah wrote:
 O

  You have a mixed combo. You have part of 3.3.6 installed and 4.2.
  You need a clean XFree86-4 for anything to work. Do you have an
  XFREE86_VERSION in your /etc/make.conf. I can't think of anyway
  you would have both 3.3.6 and 4.2 installed unless you did.
 
  It also sounds like you might have an out of date port system. At
  this point, you might as well upgrade to version XFree86-4.3.0. I
  would think about getting a working 4.2 before updating. There are
  some problems with make on the older systems. Port maintainers are
  using new make options that don't work on the pre-4.9 systems.
 
  A current 4.9-stable will be different than what you are using now.

 thanks Kent,

 I understand what I need to do now.
 well my /usr/ports have teh 4.3.0 version now.  so I dont know how I
 can install 4.2 core distribution

hehehe - I didn't either but it happens :). I created an alias called 
pkgrep that does a pkg_info | grep $1.  There are a number of things 
that are easier with an alias. You don't make as many typo's and wonder 
what happened.

You need to cvsup ports-all with a tag=.. The easy way is to update 
your ports, run portsdb -uU to get a new set of indexs and get used 
to using portupgrade. It makes being consistant a lot easier :).


 also I am cvsup'ing the stable files every night.

 how can I guarantee that I am receiving the 4.9-stable files?

 this is the entry I am using:

 --- snip ---
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
 --- snip ---

 should that work - how can I verify that its the 4.9 kernel and
 system files I am receiving?

Ah, you can cvsup as many times as you want and nothing changes until 
you do a buildworld, build[install]kernel, reboot to single user mode 
and installworld. The exact sequence is always in 
your /usr/src/UPDATING. It sounds like you have most of the pieces but 
they just aren't quite connected.

Kent

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Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Hello Heinrich,

Sunday, February 22, 2004, 6:49:46 PM, you wrote:
 what you write does make sense, although i really can't understand why
 this important info is not in the FreeBSD documentation.
 I have disabled write cache, but i will keep softupdates disabled as
 well for now, and see how the system behaves.

I think it was in there. But maybe I'm mixing this with Lehey's excellent but
somewhat dated Complete FreeBSD. Anyway, I've been using softupdates
since they became avalaible and never had a single problem with them.

Can't exactly say the same about ata(4) though but Soren was always
very helpful when problems arised.


Best regards,
 Gabriel

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Re: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use?

2004-02-22 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 09:18:12AM -0600, David Fleck wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Aaron Peterson wrote:
  and of course the manual pages that install with each of the some 1
  add on programs.  man program name
 
 ...with *each* of them?  Ah, if only that were true..
 dcf$ man aspell
 No manual entry for aspell

- All of the apps of the FreeBSD system have one or more man pages.

The FreeBSD can not be held responcible for missing man pages for thirth
partie software.

- Most apps out the port system have one or more pages.
- Some apps have there own websites with information. The URL is in the
  port directory; or in the google database.
- Some apps have documentation ins /usr/local/share/doc/app

You'll have to make do with what you can find. That just the way it is,
sorry.

-- 
Alex

Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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Re[2]: UNEXPECTED SOFTUPDATES INCONSISTENCY

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
Hello Heinrich,

Sunday, February 22, 2004, 5:00:27 PM, you wrote:
 Why that? I can imagine that i lose data in case of a power failure, but
 why in case of a crash?

Well I guess the card COULD still commit the data, however, who knows
if it actually does it?

 And why is write cache only dangerous with softupdates, as you wrote above?

IIRC softupdates relies on the assumption that when the softupdate
changes return, they really ARE on the disk. It's the same with most
RDBMS: because they go to great lengths to ensure the journal is in an
ok state they need to know for sure that the data they wrote to it
actually made it to disk.

 Since i found no word about disabling write cache in the FreeBSD
 handbook or in man tuning(7), i would really like to know, if this is
 just a rumour, or where does it come from?

I can't say for sure, but I have little confidence in write caching
anyhow. It changes semantics the system relies on, for one.




Best regards,
 Gabriel

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fully deinstall X

2004-02-22 Thread Noah
Hi,

how can I fully deinstall X 
I will reinstall after I rebuild my machine with a 4.9-Stable system

# !pkg [/usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui]
pkg_info | grep XFree86
XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Font Server
XFree86-Server-4.2.0_3 XFree86-4 X server and related programs
XFree86-documents-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Document Files
XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86
imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86


Thanks in advance,

Noah


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Re: OT: Longest uptime

2004-02-22 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their
 uptimes through a reboot?  So, for instance, if it was a schedualed
 reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime?  I'd imagine that this
 would be saved through upgrades as well ...

There's a similar module for fbsd here:

http://garage.freebsd.pl

although the site appears to be down at this moment.


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zsh tutorial

2004-02-22 Thread Noah
Hi again,

working on a few different things today.

is there a good URL for understand zsh out there.

I am trying to figure out the best and most practical way to setting up the
.zsh configuration files.

thanks in advance,

Noah

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Re: Fail to start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Mike Jeays
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:07:52 -0600
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800
 
 
  Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single
  line 'startkde ' (without the quotes).  Then try startx again.
 
 
 Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xinitrc 
 file.
 
 exec startkde
 startkde 
 
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Not much in practice - I think they will both work.  Exec just says call
this other script/command, and don't return to the calling script.

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Re: Is inetd a proxy server?

2004-02-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:58:10AM -0500, Marty Landman wrote:
 At 11:12 AM 2/22/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 
 A proxy listens to all of your request, and then opens up a second 
 connection to the real server (or another
 proxy) for you and replays your request to it -- so all of the traffic is 
 relayed through the proxy.
 
 Newbie here Matthew. Could you please explain how a proxy differs from a 
 router? Or are they in many ways intersecting in their functionality? e.g. 
 I've got a class c network in my office and recently learned how to use 
 apache to reverse proxy a request so that http://my-ip-adr/fbsd becomes the 
 same as http://fbsd, where the latter is mapped to the ip addr for my fbsd 
 box on the lan by apache. (which btw is kind of cool)

Sure.  A router deals with network traffic at the IP level --
sometimes described as Layer 3 on the OSI 7 layer model.  In plain
English, the router doesn't care what's inside the packets: it just
looks at the IP numbers in the headers and relays the packets
appropriately.  A router will work for all sorts of traffic -- HTTP,
FTP, SSH, SMTP, whatever (unless you've deliberately added a packet
filter) -- unlike a proxy, which works at the protocol level: thus
you'll get an HTTP proxy or a FTP proxy or a SMTP relay or a DNS
recursive server -- the names vary, but they all do proxy service.
It's also common for proxies to cache previous traffic and reply out
of cache instead of going all the way back to the originating server,
but that's not a requirement.  Sometimes the software used to
implement a proxy is actually identical to the software you'ld use to
implement the originating server -- as commonly seen with most MTAs
and BIND and occasionally Apache HTTPD as you've done -- although
specialised proxying software is more generally used for HTTP and FTP
and the like.
 
 The point of having inetd(8) is that it provides is a mechanism so that 
 you don't have to have umpty-dozen different small servers running all of 
 the time and taking up your process space.
 
 I notice that mingetty runs ~ half a dozen instances on my box, waiting for 
 console users that will never come since as a rule I do everything thru ssh 
 on my windows workstation. And httpd, though I've cut the child process 
 spec down on the apache conf since it's not needed. Of course the saved 
 cycles aren't needed either in my current environment. :)

getty(8) is pretty light weight, and it doesn't take much extra memory
to run multiple copies of it.  It's also the case that while you may
not need to log in via the console during normal usage, when you do
need console access then you generally need it very badly.  
 
 Could httpd be set up to run via inetd instead of on its own? If so, is it 
 not typically done this way because it is usually the biggie app on 
 servers? Following that reasoning, if a server were primarily used for ftp 
 would it make sense to remove ftpd from inetd's conf file and instead start 
 it as a service, assuming that were possible?

You can run apache 1.3.x through inetd -- see the 'ServerType'
directive in httpd.conf:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servertype

As it says in bright red letters: Inetd mode is no longer recommended
and does not always work properly. Avoid it if at all possible.
ServerType no longer exists in apache 2.0.x.

If you are running a busy FTP site, then yes, running a standalone FTP
daemon would be a good idea.  However, the server side configuration
for most FTP daemons is a lot simpler than for Apache, so it's
feasible to run ftpd out of inetd for much higher traffic than it
would be for apache.  Another common server where there's an option of
running under inetd is Samba -- however I think the trend nowadays is
to assume that the Samba daemons will run standalone.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: OT: Longest uptime

2004-02-22 Thread Tillman Hodgson
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:18:18PM +, Jez Hancock wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
  
  Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their
  uptimes through a reboot?  So, for instance, if it was a schedualed
  reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime?  I'd imagine that this
  would be saved through upgrades as well ...
 
 There's a similar module for fbsd here:
 
 http://garage.freebsd.pl
 
 although the site appears to be down at this moment.

The irony is delicious ;-)

-T


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Re: Fail to start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:07:52AM -0600, Chris wrote:
 On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:33 am, Mike Jeays wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:46:54 +0800
 
 
  Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single
  line 'startkde ' (without the quotes).  Then try startx again.
 
 
 Kindly explain the difference between between the following in your .xinitrc 
 file.
 
 exec startkde
 startkde 
 

'exec startkde' replaces the .xinitrc process with the startkde process.

'startkde ' starts up a separate startkde process in the background
and then continues executing the .xinitrc process.  That may or may
not be a good thing -- if the .xinitrc process exits (or the stardkde
process that it morphs into in the first instance) then your session
will be deemed to have ended and you'll be dumped back at the shell
prompt.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: OT: Longest uptime

2004-02-22 Thread Jez Hancock
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 12:28:40PM -0600, Tillman Hodgson wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:18:18PM +, Jez Hancock wrote:
  On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 11:49:22PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
   
   Doesn't (or didn't?) Linux have a 'feature' that allowed ppl to save their
   uptimes through a reboot?  So, for instance, if it was a schedualed
   reboot, uptime still showed one continuous uptime?  I'd imagine that this
   would be saved through upgrades as well ...
  
  There's a similar module for fbsd here:
  
  http://garage.freebsd.pl
  
  although the site appears to be down at this moment.
 
 The irony is delicious ;-)
LOL :P

Actually that site had a module for modifying your uptime I think it was
rather than saving your old uptime.  


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Re: seeking shell scripting resources

2004-02-22 Thread Scott W
Marty Landman wrote:

I'm new to running my own unix systems and would like to start 
learning the ropes on shell scripting. I've looked at the handbook and 
a few other sources... maybe haven't looked closely enough.

Any recommendations on more involved manuals/explanations/examples of 
how shell scripts should be developed and used?

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Hi Marty.  There are a few tutorials out there, but I haven't seen any 
really good or 'complete' ones online.  (There may be some, but from 
memory I don't remember finding any).

If you're going to use Bash, give the O'Reilly 'Learning the Bash Shell' 
book a shot.  Another one that does cover other shells is called either 
'Unix Shells' or 'Unix Scripting' (don't recall which and it's at 
work..), which was published 2003 IIRC.

Scott

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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
At 12:01 PM 2/22/2004, Olaf Hoyer wrote:

Well, what is formerly called a Class C network is now in the new 
CIDR-notation a /24, meaning that there are 256 IP's in that network.
Thanks for explaining Olaf. Little by little the fog is clearing before my 
eyes, and things which are just words to me today will likely make real 
sense in a month or whatever it takes.

Seems to be a bug with nmap V3.00 I use 3.50, and it works. Solution could 
be an upgrade or exclusion of your own box from the scanning range.
Could you explain how I can do either - or preferably both? My experience 
with ports btw is strictly limited to

make build  make install

Ok, some basics beforehand:

anytime some hosts wants to contact another host, it yells with some 
broadcast on the local collision segment (arp-request) that the Station, 
which has IP-address a.b.c.d. sprays the answer (the MAC-Address on the 
other station) back throughout the segment. This answer is cached by the 
OS for a short time, that for future use no unnecessary lookups have to be 
made.
Ok.

This means, that, if you hook up a station to a LAN, which did not 
participiated in any of the LAN traffic, the arp cache on that station is 
of course empty.
So the arp cache doesn't have nodes on it which it hasn't had activity from 
for a time? This makes sense since I tend to work off my windows 
workstation which is also my gateway.

One way to fill it, is by simply pinging all other hosts on that segment.
Heh, heh. That's really how this started, except I found it to be too time 
consuming to do so.

Maybe I'm getting far afield though. I think what I'm looking to do now is 
schedule an exec through cron which will check for whatever ip's/hostnames 
are on my network. Sounds like upgrading nmap to 3.50 will do it.

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Re: fully deinstall X

2004-02-22 Thread David Kanter
I would look at pkg_deinstall.

Noah wrote:
Hi,

how can I fully deinstall X 
I will reinstall after I rebuild my machine with a 4.9-Stable system

# !pkg [/usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui]
pkg_info | grep XFree86
XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Font Server
XFree86-Server-4.2.0_3 XFree86-4 X server and related programs
XFree86-documents-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Document Files
XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86
imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86
Thanks in advance,

Noah

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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Olaf Hoyer
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Marty Landman wrote:

 Seems to be a bug with nmap V3.00 I use 3.50, and it works. Solution could
 be an upgrade or exclusion of your own box from the scanning range.

 Could you explain how I can do either - or preferably both? My experience
 with ports btw is strictly limited to

 make build  make install

Well, you need to update your ports skeleton (anything under /usr/ports)
to an actual state.
Whether you use cvsup, to poll from a cvsup server near you the latest
updates, or you download a tarball from a ftp site near you.
This tarball is about a bit more than 20 MB, so beware with a slow line,
cvsup is normally preferred.

Then you install portupgrade from the ports, and after that you do
simply a: pkg_version -v  to get a list of ports that need updating,
then you simply do a: portupgrade name to have it updated...

For using cvsup, there is a great section in the handbook, and in the
archives there should be some looong threads about ist, so don't be
frightened, its easier than it sounds...


 So the arp cache doesn't have nodes on it which it hasn't had activity from
 for a time? This makes sense since I tend to work off my windows
 workstation which is also my gateway.

Yes.

HTH
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Re: fully deinstall X

2004-02-22 Thread Kent Stewart
On Sunday 22 February 2004 10:17 am, Noah wrote:
 Hi,

 how can I fully deinstall X
 I will reinstall after I rebuild my machine with a 4.9-Stable system

 # !pkg [/usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui]
 pkg_info | grep XFree86
 XFree86-FontServer-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Font Server
 XFree86-Server-4.2.0_3 XFree86-4 X server and related programs
 XFree86-documents-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Document Files
 XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 100 dpi fonts
 XFree86-font75dpi-4.2.0 XFree86-4 bitmap 75 dpi fonts
 XFree86-fontCyrillic-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Cyrillic Fonts
 XFree86-fontDefaultBitmaps-4.2.0 XFree86-4 default bitmap fonts
 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.2.0 XFree86-4 font encoding files
 XFree86-fontScalable-4.2.0 XFree86-4 Scalable font files
 imake-4.2.0_1   Imake and other utilities from XFree86
 imake-4.3.0 Imake and other utilities from XFree86



Do a search on XFree86 and use the dependancies to delete it. You can do 
this the make search way or you can use a tool called portsearch that 
is located in
/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch
I copied it to a convenient location and then aliased it as 
alias search'portsearch -n $1'. Then if you search ^XFree86-4
you can see all of the dependancies. A number of ports are associated 
with XFree86 and have to be updated at the same time. All I see on a 
search for build-deps is freetype2 and imake but there have always been 
others. 

A portupgrade -Rrf XFree86 would rebuild all of the important ones, 
which includes all of the run-deps, and add any new ones that you need. 
It is handy to not be running X-Windows when you do this.

You can remove all of XFree86 by 
pkg_delete -f 'XFree86*' but you also need to delete both imake's. You 
really have to reinstall everything that uses XFree86-libraries because 
it is a static library and you have to build all of the ports that 
refer to it. To do that, you just add -r to the pkg_delete command. 
All you need at that point is the time it takes to do the new installs. 
To rebuild XFree86 and all of the ports that use it can take quite a 
bit of time.

Kent


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Re: USB modem support?

2004-02-22 Thread Daniela
On Saturday 21 February 2004 10:11, Tony Frank wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 02:26:24AM +, Daniela wrote:
  I'm having problems with an USB ADSL modem (Alcatel Speed Touch). It is
  recognized at boot time, but when I try to connect, it tells me that the
  modem is busy.
  I symlinked /dev/cuaa3 to /dev/ugen1 (that's the device that showed up in
  the boot messages) and directed the kppp utility to use /dev/cuaa3. I
  entered all the information it asked me for, and then I got the error
  message: Modem is busy. My ISP told me to f*** off and get Windoze.
  Anything else is unsupported.
 
  Is it a hardware problem or a classical case of a dumb user?
  I'm not unexperienced with Ethernet connections, and I have a great
  knowledge of the TCP/IP standard, but I have never done anything with
  modems, so I can't even imagine how this stuff works.

 Have you tried:

 FreeBSD Handbook:
 http://marvin.home.local/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoa.html

Thank you, that's great but the link above is broken.
Well, I installed that program and followed the instructions it gives me.
Now the tun0 interface is open, but it has no IP associated. I'm stuck here. 
Do I have to use the DHCP client? (Tried it, but it configures the tunnel 
from IP 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255)
I have no clue what to do next.


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Re: zsh tutorial

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel Striewe
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:19:57AM -0800, Noah wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 working on a few different things today.
 
 is there a good URL for understand zsh out there.
 
 I am trying to figure out the best and most practical way to setting up the
 .zsh configuration files.
 
 thanks in advance,
 
 Noah

A good starting point is http://zsh.sunsite.dk/

I personally recommend: A User's Guide to the Z-Shell by Peter
Stephenson, maybe expecially in your case:

http://zsh.sunsite.dk/Guide/zshguide02.html#l13

Besides that:

* A workshop on Zsh   by Larry P. Schrof

* An Introduction  to the Z Shell by Paul Falstad
   
* Z-Shell Frequently-Asked Questions

* Z Shell Manual

There is also a mailing list on zsh, accessible via
http://zsh.sunsite.dk/Arc/mlist.html 

Gabriel

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ed4 on FreeBSD 5.2.1

2004-02-22 Thread Banana Flex
hello!

i'm a new user of FreeBSD and i have a little problem:
i can not use my PCMCIA Ethernet card on FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC2 on an i386 
platform.

how do i install the ed4 driver? i think is the correct driver
because on FreeBSD 4.9 my PCMCIA Ethernet card was properly detected 
and on  FreeBSD 5.2.1 isn't not working :-(
can i install it from the 4.9 Release? how can i?

what is the good way to make it please?
thanks you very much
Banana

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RE: seeking shell scripting resources

2004-02-22 Thread mark rowlands

 
 Haven't found much around at all on shell programming and 
 would like to start learning it. Any more resources would be 
 most welcome to find out about.
 
then you haven't looked 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=lang_en%7Clang_svie=UTF-8oe=UTF-
8safe=offq=unix+scriptingbtnG=Google+Searchlr=lang_en%7Clang_sv

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=lang_en%7Clang_svie=UTF-8oe=UTF-
8safe=offq=bash+scriptingbtnG=Google+Searchlr=lang_en%7Clang_sv

http://freshmeat.net/projects/advancedbashscriptingguide/

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Re: OT: Longest uptime

2004-02-22 Thread Christian Kratzer
Hi,

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Daniela wrote:

 On Saturday 21 February 2004 20:47, Jamie wrote:
 I'm curious as to what the longest uptimes are people have seen on
  production servers. We've got a FreeBSD machine here with an uptime of 506
  days. It is a file server and it also runs spamassassin for another
  machine. Too bad we have to take it down to replace a motherboard tonight
  with leaky caps. It would have been fun to see if it could have made it to
  999 or higher.
 
 I'm curious as to what the highest uptimes people have seen on their
  servers. With times like that, you can't help but fall in love
  with FreeBSD!!

 I have heard of a machine running FreeBSD 2.2 with 2300+ days uptime and still
 running.
 Mine has only reached 29 days so far, because I patch my system very often.

I just checked back and it's still up ...

--snipp--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: {8} uname -a
FreeBSD hostname.domain 2.2.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb  9 18:53:29 
CET 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/XX  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: {9} uptime
 9:44PM  up 2204 days,  2:38, 1 user, load averages: 0.48, 0.24, 0.10
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: {10} date
Sun Feb 22 21:45:29 CET 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: {11}
--snipp--

hostnames and domains changed to protect the innocent.

Of course this does not make much sense and the customer in question
would be well advised with an update. Have been talking to them.

Our own production servers regularly reach 200 days and more. We update things
like ssh and openssl in place and only do full buildworld/installworld
upgrades perhaps once or twice a year. Lot's can be done while staying up.
Jails help a lot of course. Not having external users with shell access also
helps.

Greetings
Christian

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Re: Clarification needed on Handbook: Tracking for Multiple Machines

2004-02-22 Thread D J Hawkey Jr
OK, I've cross-posted this message to -hackers, to see if we can get
some sort of definitive [to me] answer. Please forgive if it's considered
bad form.

-hackers: There is a thread in -questions in response to my query as
to building the world and kernels for a variety of Intel CPUs on one
machine. For brevity's sake, I won't reproduce the entire thread here.

OK, I guess my question boils down to these, then:

True or False: Setting CPUTYPE to the lowest target CPU (p2) in
a build machine's make.conf will cripple the performance of target
machines with higher CPUs (p3, p4, i586, i686, etc.).

If True, for optimized code across all machines, the code should
just be built on each machine, right?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Nvidia

2004-02-22 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:29:15 +0100
Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Eduardo Fernandes wrote:
 
  how install nvidia drivers in freebsd 5.2?
 
 AFAIK the nvidia drivers don't work with FreeBSD 5.2 anymore. Last
 time I tried was 2 weeks ago with -CURRENT and it did not work. I
 switched back to RELENG_4.

Not sure about 5.2, but they work under 5.2.1rc
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Re: DHCP access

2004-02-22 Thread Chuck Swiger
Marty Landman wrote:
At 05:04 PM 2/21/2004, Chuck Swiger wrote:
[ ... ]
% nmap -sP 22 192.168.0.0/24
I don't understand the man page though so assume it's me, not nmap.
Whoops, I switched from recommending using -p 22 (to just scan the ssh port 
via TCP), to doing ICMP pinging, but I didn't make my suggestion correctly. 
:-)  Olaf provided a better explanation...

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Re: Is inetd a proxy server?

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
At 01:26 PM 2/22/2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:

getty(8) is pretty light weight, and it doesn't take much extra memory to 
run multiple copies of it.  It's also the case that while you may not need 
to log in via the console during normal usage, when you do need console 
access then you generally need it very badly.
Fine if fbsd wants a dozen copies running. In fact since I don't have X 
installed would just as soon have all 12 pf keys mapped to cli consoles for 
if/when am sitting at the console.

My issue is one of UI, especially for top. It would be nicer imo if those 
1/2 doz getty processes were to display on one line somehow... maybe 
indicating the number running and a way for me to expand them if needed 
[which is essentially never which is my point]. So something like getty, 
necessary and there for the appropriate reason, i.e. it displays on top 
because it should, nonetheless is a light weight, in my case rarely used 
process that ends up consuming 1/3 or so of the screen real estate.

You can run apache 1.3.x through inetd -- see the 'ServerType' directive 
in httpd.conf:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servertype

As it says in bright red letters: Inetd mode is no longer recommended and 
does not always work properly. Avoid it if at all possible.
In that case...

ServerType no longer exists in apache 2.0.x.
Doesn't bother me, I migrated backwards to apache 1.3.x on 3/4 servers 
because it seems the more common version, at least for Unix. My windows 
gateway runs apache 2.0 because it's pretty much restricted to being a 
documentation repository for faqs, manuals, and the like.

I guess it's something I might try if I found out it was still in common 
and accepted commercial use, which from what you've said does not sound 
likely or at least wise.

Marty Landman   Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387
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won't buildworld

2004-02-22 Thread Bernardo Marcelo Brummer
I'm trying to upgrade from 4.7 to 4.9 

I made cvsup (src-all), with no problems, then: cd /usr/src and:
make buildworld 

It runs for a while (about 10 -15 minutes) and stops (see message bellow) 

I already tried cvsup three more times but always with the same result. 

Any upgrading hints? 



=== share/info
cd /usr/src/share/info; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make buildincludes; 
/usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make installincludes
=== include
cd /usr/src/include; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make buildincludes; 
/usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make installincludes
creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
make: no target to make.
*** Error code 2 

Stop in /usr/src/include.
*** Error code 1 

Stop in /usr/src/include.
*** Error code 1 

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1 

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1 

Stop in /usr/src. 

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Re: Is inetd a proxy server?

2004-02-22 Thread Chris Pressey
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:19:05 -0500
Marty Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My issue is one of UI, especially for top. It would be nicer imo if
 those 1/2 doz getty processes were to display on one line somehow...
 maybe indicating the number running and a way for me to expand them if
 needed [which is essentially never which is my point]. So something
 like getty, necessary and there for the appropriate reason, i.e. it
 displays on top because it should, nonetheless is a light weight, in
 my case rarely used process that ends up consuming 1/3 or so of the
 screen real estate.

It shouldn't be too hard to modify top to collapse processes with the
same name into a single line.  Possibly more effort than it's worth for
what you want, though.  Have you tried pressing the 'i' key when top is
running?  It toggles the display of idle processes.  (getty is generally
idle.)  This can save a lot of screen real estate.

-Chris
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SMP Top program

2004-02-22 Thread Tim Aslat
Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction here.  I'm
running a SMP system of dual Xeon CPU's with Htt and I'd like ot know if
there is a version of top which will show information for each CPU as
opposed to just the single set of data.

Is this even possible,, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Regards

Tim

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Re: Is inetd a proxy server?

2004-02-22 Thread Marty Landman
At 05:41 PM 2/22/2004, Chris Pressey wrote:

Have you tried pressing the 'i' key when top is running?  It toggles the 
display of idle processes.  (getty is generally
idle.)  This can save a lot of screen real estate.
Thanks Chris, that's perfect. I gotta learn not to post before rereading 
the help page.

Marty Landman   Face 2 Interface Inc 845-679-9387
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RE: Wrong Geometry Disk Problem (Seagate ST3200822A - 200 GB)

2004-02-22 Thread JJB
The bios disk geometry bug has been an 5.2 release show stopper bug
for a lone time. Looks like they still have not corrected it. You
should submit an problem report containing much of the data you have
in this post. The more people who report this bug the higher up in
the severity list it moves and the sooner it will get addressed.
Keep in mind that the 5.x series are developer version releases and
not intended for production use. 5.x version should only be
installed on test machines.  4.9 is the last stable release and the
one people should be using if they want an stable operating system.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David
Markle
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Wrong Geometry Disk Problem (Seagate ST3200822A - 200 GB)

Hello all,

I have a problem installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto a Seagate Barracuda
ST3200822A - 200 GB ATA/100 Hard Drive.  Being a bit gun shy from a
previous geometry problem mis-install where I almost lost some
serious
data, I am reluctant to just try things until they work.  So here
goes
...

Using the Seagate disk tool, I created a 120 GB NTFS partition and a
200
MB FAT16 partition.  Installed Windows XP on the 120 GB part.  I
want to
put FreeBSD on the remaining space (~80 GB).

The Seagate HD utility states the following:

LBA Sectors are 390,721,968.
Standard 512 bytes per sector.

XBIOS Physical (and HD Spec Sheet from manufacture) (what BSD FDISK
Sees
too).
C16383
H16
S63

BIOS
C24321
H255
S63

When the FreeBSD CD boots and enters sysinstall, I get the usual
drive
geometry error.  I've extensively searched google for some sort of
method to calculate the true drive geometry with little success.

1. Is the above BIOS info correct ??
2. Ultimately, do I want the drive geometry to match up with the LBA
sectors ??
3. Can anyone point me towards something that correctly calculates
any
drive's TRUE geometry ??

Any help is greatly appreciated...

david markle
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Re: Re: Kernel build problem after make world

2004-02-22 Thread fjaspers

Hi,
   
  
you are right, should have included the messages in my first mail. Sorry.
   
  
I followed the procedure in the handbook,
make buildworld; make buildkernel; make installkernel; reboot; make installworld
   
  
Intermediate that left me with a new kernel in an old world, which
worked like i supposed it would.
   
  
Is it possible one of the kernel options caused the messages?
It doesn't seem to me, everything compiled ok, it's the linking process
complaining. Missing header files??
   
  
All my kernel options (see below) seem also in either GENERIC or NOTES.
   
  
again any help appreciated.
   
  
Frans Jaspers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
   
  
In my make.conf are only perl things.
   
  
   
  
Here's my uname -a
FreeBSD desktop.localnetwork 5.2.1-RC2 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RC2 #0: Sat Feb 21 22:18:28 GMT 
2004 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FJ_20040221_GENERIC  i386
   
  
So that's the running new generic kernel.
   
  
   
  
Here's the errors:
   
  
$cd /usr/src
$make buildkernel KERNCONF=FJ_20040221_01
--
 Kernel build for FJ_20040221_01 started on Sun Feb 22 22:16:49 GMT 2004
--
=== FJ_20040221_01
   
  
-- SNIP --
   
  
linking kernel
init_main.o: In function `proc0_init':
init_main.o(.text+0x2b9): undefined reference to `kse0_sched'
init_main.o(.text+0x2c3): undefined reference to `ksegrp0_sched'
init_main.o(.text+0x2cd): undefined reference to `proc0_sched'
init_main.o(.text+0x2d7): undefined reference to `thread0_sched'
kern_clock.o: In function `statclock':
   
  
--- Many more -
   
  
vm_pageout.o(.text+0x170c): undefined reference to `sched_nice'
machdep.o: In function `cpu_idle':
machdep.o(.text+0x151e): undefined reference to `sched_runnable'
*** Error code 1
   
  
Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FJ_20040221_01.
*** Error code 1
   
  
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
   
  
Stop in /usr/src.
   
  
   
  
Here's my config file,
  

mail question...

2004-02-22 Thread Xpression
Hi list, there is a package / tool to protect against spam ??? Thanks...

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RE: ISP dialing with callback

2004-02-22 Thread JJB
Try changing the following which you have
sitel:
 set phone 2053203
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 add default HISADDR
 set callback auth cbcp E.164 6661313
 set cbcp 6661313

To this
sitel:
 set phone 2053203
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 add default HISADDR
 set callback cbcp
 set cbcp 6661313

with 6661313 being the phone number and area code of the phone line
connected to the modem which is to answer the callback call.

You failed to say if you can hear your modem answer the incoming
call, you have to

Configure Modem to answer call using HAYES Commands

ALL external and internal PCI voice phone modems since they were
first developed, have been manufactured to comply to the Hayes
standard. When you turn on your modem or reset it, your modem loads
the 'active configuration profile' into non-volatile memory (NVRAM).
The active configuration profile is a group of configuration
settings, derived from the values of the modem's internal S
registers, that define how the modem will operate. The active
configuration profile can be either the factory-default, or one of
two user defined profiles. The first time your modem is turned on,
the factory-default profile is loaded into the 'active profile in
non-volatile memory (NVRAM). The factory-default profile is stored
in the modem's read-only-memory (ROM) and can not be changed. The
factory-default profile contains standard settings which allow the
majority of users to use their modem without every knowing about the
Hayes standard. Modems are not factory configured to answer incoming
calls by default, so you will have to manually create your own user
profile, enable auto answer on first ring, save it to one of the
user profiles in NVRAM, and tell the modem to use it on power up and
reset as the default profile.

Use 'tip' command to send Hayes commands to permanently configure
the modem to answer incoming calls.

Note: The Hayes modem commands are capital letters and the '0' is a
zero.

On the command line enter

tip comX where X is the com port your modem is on.
ATF0load the factory default profile0 into current
profile.
ATS0=1   tell current profile to answer on first ring.
AT   Enter AT command 10 times to train modem to 115200 speed
ATW0write current profile to saved user profile0.
ATY0tell modem to load user profile0 as default profile on
power up.

Use  keyboard ~ key followed by . key to exit tip command.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kyryll A
Mirnenko
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISP dialing with callback

  This topic seems to be an elder one, but nobody around couldn't
help
me. I need to setup ppp (user) to dial to my callback-ISP. Here're
useful info:

1). IPS uses PAP authentification.
2). Phone number negotiation is unsupported, I need to send it.

When using Windows ppp-dialer (really buggy), everything is OK, so
that's not ISP problem. Direct connection  authentification goes
right, but no incoming call after that. I browsed my logs  only
strange thing I found is there was no phone number I should send (at
least in the readable part, not in the packages sent). Here're my
configs (truncated with dummy logins  passwords :) - the provider
entry is sitel:

[ /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ]

default:
 set log phase tun chat cbcp command pap
 ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)

 set device /dev/cual0

 set speed 38400
 set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \
   \\ AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDP\\T TIMEOUT 80 CONNECT
 set timeout 180# 3 minute idle timer (the
default)
 enable dns # request DNS info (for
resolv.conf)
 enable vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1
 accept vjcomp deflate deflate24 protocomp pred1
 set urgent udp +53

sitel:
 set phone 2053203
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 add default HISADDR
 set callback auth cbcp E.164 6661313
 set cbcp 6661313

incoming:
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255
 set authname CALLER
 set authkey MYPASSWORD

[ /etc/ppp/ppp.secret ]

CALLER  MYPASSWORD  *   *   6661313

[ /etc/ttys ]

console noneunknown off secure
#
ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on secure
# Virtual terminals
ttyv1   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv2   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv3   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u on  secure
ttyv4   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv5   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv6   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv7   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25u off secure
ttyv8   

Re: ssh no longer connecting automatically

2004-02-22 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:47:13AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: 
:  Any idea why updating to 4.9 stable would give me this error?
:  I have to set it to protocol 1 and log in manually.  The auto login with the
:  id_rsa and authorized_keys doesn't seem to work anymore, but gives this
:  error:
:  
:  neptune:~ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  key_verify failed for server_host_key
: 
: Did the host key change?

Possibly, but if I delete my known_hosts won't it just ask me and then
re-add it to the list with the new key?

NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed.  Thanks.

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5.2 acpi hangs on PowerEdge 4350 usb controller - should I file an bug report?

2004-02-22 Thread Stephen Hoover
When installing FreeBSD 5.2, booting with acpi enabled, the system hangs
when it detects the server's usb controller. This server (PowerEdge 4350)
has an Intel 440GX chipset with a usb host controller, but it does not have
any usb ports.

If I disable acpi, I can install fine. After compiling a new kernel with all
usb support disabled, I can boot with acpi again.

Even Windows detects the controller with an error (cannot start device)

Should I fill out a bug report for this issue? Just wanted to check with the
gurus first.

Thanks!
Stephen Hoover
Dallas, Texas


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Re: Wrong Geometry Disk Problem (Seagate ST3200822A - 200 GB)

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Storey
Yes, I too have encountered the geometry bug a number of times on
different machines, and for awhile it put me off to using FreeBSD. Then
I discovered that if you just hit g during the partitioning process,
it finds the correct geometry and you can continue with the
installation. At least, this has worked for me.

Nevertheless, I hope the bug will be fixed eventually. It certainly
scares away potential FBSD users.

regards,
Robert

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:54:42 -0500
David Markle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
  
 I have a problem installing FreeBSD 5.2.1 onto a Seagate Barracuda
 ST3200822A - 200 GB ATA/100 Hard Drive.  Being a bit gun shy from a
 previous geometry problem mis-install where I almost lost some serious
 data, I am reluctant to just try things until they work.  So here
 goes...
  
 Using the Seagate disk tool, I created a 120 GB NTFS partition and a
 200 MB FAT16 partition.  Installed Windows XP on the 120 GB part.  I
 want to put FreeBSD on the remaining space (~80 GB).
  
 The Seagate HD utility states the following:
  
 LBA Sectors are 390,721,968.
 Standard 512 bytes per sector.
  
 XBIOS Physical (and HD Spec Sheet from manufacture) (what BSD FDISK
 Sees too).
 C16383
 H16
 S63
  
 BIOS 
 C24321
 H255
 S63
  
 When the FreeBSD CD boots and enters sysinstall, I get the usual drive
 geometry error.  I've extensively searched google for some sort of
 method to calculate the true drive geometry with little success.  
  
 1. Is the above BIOS info correct ??  
 2. Ultimately, do I want the drive geometry to match up with the LBA
 sectors ??
 3. Can anyone point me towards something that correctly calculates any
 drive's TRUE geometry ??
  
 Any help is greatly appreciated...
  
 david markle
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glib trouble

2004-02-22 Thread Hugo (6s-gaming.com)
i,

I have this problem on a 4.8-RELEASE-p13 server, whenever compiling
something related with glib:

(...)
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'


I initially added libstdc++ to the system via wget (googled it), because
version 1.2 of Call of Duty server required it. I have another server on
4,8-STABLE, and I downloaded its libstdc++ (no problems compiling there)
to this system, but the problem remains. Anyone ever ran into this
problem?

Kind regards,

Hugo
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glib problems..

2004-02-22 Thread Hugo (6s-gaming.com)
Hi,

I have this problem on a 4.8-RELEASE-p13 server, whenever compiling
something related with glib:

(...)
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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I initially added libstdc++ to the system via wget (googled it), because
version 1.2 of Call of Duty server required it. I have another server on
4,8-STABLE, and I downloaded its libstdc++ (no problems compiling there)
to this system, but the problem remains. Anyone ever ran into this
problem?

Kind regards,

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Re: glib problems..

2004-02-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 01:30:05AM +0100, Hugo (6s-gaming.com) wrote:

 I initially added libstdc++ to the system via wget (googled it), because
 version 1.2 of Call of Duty server required it. I have another server on
 4,8-STABLE, and I downloaded its libstdc++ (no problems compiling there)
 to this system, but the problem remains. Anyone ever ran into this
 problem?

You have damaged your system by doing this.  Reinstall it or recompile
it from source.

Kris


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Re: Growfs Vinum on 5.2-RELEASE

2004-02-22 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday,  8 February 2004 at 21:43:19 +1030, Michael Ritchie wrote:
 I have followed the method advocated by Drew Tomlinson on this list
 (October 2002) to create a Vinum volume without losing data.  Everything
 worked ok for the first drive... and then I added the second, and grew
 the file system using growfs ... and then added the third subdisk to the
 plex, and tried to growfs again, and got the following message:

 # growfs -N /dev/vinum/data
 new file systemsize is: 195366077 frags
 Warning: 157556 sector(s) cannot be allocated.
 growfs: 381497.4MB (781306752 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048
using 2076 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761 blks, 23552 inodes.
with soft updates
 super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 ...
 growfs: bad inode number 1 to ginode

 ...

 I'm running 5.2-RELEASE, with kernel compiled from RELEASE source to
 include IPFW.  Fairly standard stuff.  Is something broken or am I
 doing something wrong??

Sorry about the late response; I appear to have overlooked this issue.

What file system?  UFS 1 or UFS 2?  growfs is suffering a bit from
lack of love at the moment.  It might be worth putting in a PR.

Greg
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issue with building intltool-0.30

2004-02-22 Thread bsd neophyte
i was trying to make mozilla from the ports, when i noticed it was taking
much longer than it should.  in this case it would be 2 days straight (while
this machine isn't a newer machine, it's a 360mhz sparc64... it shouldn't be
THIS slow).
 
i noticed what was happening was a constant looping of the following:
 
---
cd . \
   CONFIG_FILES=Makefile CONFIG_HEADERS= /usr/local/bin/bash
/config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
cd .  /usr/ports/textproc/intltool/work/intltool-0.30/missing autoconf
WARNING: `autoconf' is missing on your system.  You should only need it if
 you modified `configure.ac'.  You might want to install the
 `Autoconf' and `GNU m4' packages.  Grab them from any GNU
 archive site.
/bin/sh ./config.status --recheck
running /bin/sh ./configure  --libdir=/usr/local/libdata --prefix=/usr/local
--build=sparc64-portbld-freebsd5.2 build_alias=sparc64-portbld-freebsd5.2
--no-create --no-recursion
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake-1.4... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
configure: creating ./config.status

 
i tried making it several times, but the same issue over and over.  i
independantly installed autoconf and m4 and tried to rebuild intltool
alone... but still the same issue.
 
anyone know what to do to sort out this problem?
 
-Sameer
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Re: issue with building intltool-0.30

2004-02-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:50:33PM -0800, bsd neophyte wrote:
 i was trying to make mozilla from the ports, when i noticed it was taking
 much longer than it should.  in this case it would be 2 days straight (while
 this machine isn't a newer machine, it's a 360mhz sparc64... it shouldn't be
 THIS slow).
  
 i noticed what was happening was a constant looping of the following:

Verify that all dependencies are up-to-date, e.g. by cvsupping and using
portupgrade -R intltool.

Kris


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Re: Growfs Vinum on 5.2-RELEASE

2004-02-22 Thread Michael Ritchie
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
What file system?  UFS 1 or UFS 2?  growfs is suffering a bit from
lack of love at the moment.  It might be worth putting in a PR.
Thanks for the response,

File system UFS2 (with softupdates, if that matters?).

I've sort of worked around the issue at the moment (backed up, 
re-created the filesystem on vinum volume from scratch, and restored), 
but perhaps a PR would help others having the same problem.

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Re: Growfs Vinum on 5.2-RELEASE

2004-02-22 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 23 February 2004 at 13:51:52 +1030, Michael Ritchie wrote:
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 What file system?  UFS 1 or UFS 2?  growfs is suffering a bit from
 lack of love at the moment.  It might be worth putting in a PR.

 Thanks for the response,

 File system UFS2 (with softupdates, if that matters?).

Not so much.  But growfs does have problems with UFS2.  That PR might
not be a bad idea.

Greg
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Re: Fixing vinum after removing a HDD

2004-02-22 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 11 February 2004 at 19:30:52 -0800, Micheas Herman wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 17:02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 On Wednesday,  4 February 2004 at 19:52:03 +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 07:41:48PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm running FreeBSD 4.8 on a system with 5 HDD's. ad0 is to be removed
 from the system. ad1, ad2 and ad3 contain my vinum drives. FreeBSD resides
 on the last disk (da0).

 Can anyone tell me if the following procedure is the right way to do it?
 1. physically remove ad0
 2. vinum resetconfig
 3. change drivenumbers in vinum.conf
 4. run vinum with the new configfile

 As far as my (limited) vinum knowledge goes, you really don't need to do a
 resetconfig.

 Correct.  From the man page:

  resetconfig
  The resetconfig command completely obliterates the vinum configu-
  ration on a system.  Use this command only when you want to com-
  pletely delete the configuration.

 I'm completely baffled that people want to use this command so much.
 The correct sequence is to remove the drive, replace it with something
 else with a Vinum partition, and then start the defective objects.

 Just a guess (arm chair psychology of users), but I suspect it
 is because they are thinking that they need to re-setup their
 drive.

 Maybe deleteconfig would be a more self documenting flag.

Hmm, maybe.  I'll think about this.

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Re: Fail to start KDE

2004-02-22 Thread Stephen Liu
Mike Jeays wrote:

Version 5.2
new installation
- snip -
   

Create a file .xinitrc in the home directory, containing the single
line 'startkde ' (without the quotes).  Then try startx again.
Hi Mike,

Tks for your advice.

Sorry I forgot to mention in my previous posting;

1)
KDE could not start if editing /etc/ttys as;
.
ttyv8  user/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm on secure
.
...
# startkde (on INIT 3/text mode)
...
Kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server. 
(continue to run on screen)

I suspect whether it was caused by failure on login.  Because after 
booting, the 'Welcom to the XFree86 Project Inc' GUI login popup.  I can 
keyin either as 'root' or as 'username' but can't keyin password.  I 
just typed in password and hit Enter the GUI login screen popup again 
without mentioning anything.  The X window started with a small Xterm 
window appearing on the screen, mouse working but I could not type on 
it.  I tried many times without a solution.  If changing 'xdm' to 'kdm' 
on the abovementioned line 'ttyv8.', GUI login failed to start. 

# startx  (on INIT 3)

started 3 'Xterm windows'

2)
After starting 3 'Xterm windows' I can start KDE 3.1 from any one of the 
'Xterm window' with;

# startkde

It worked with KDE started.

3) On INIT 3/text mode I can login either as 'root' or as 'user' with 
correct password without problem

Kindly advise how to fix the problem.  TIA

B.R.
Stephen
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Re: mail question...

2004-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Xpression wrote:

Q:

Hi list, there is a package / tool to protect against spam ??? Thanks...

 



A:  A few ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/ports] [21:49]
#make search key=spam | grep port
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/adcomplain
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/bayespam
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/bogofilter
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/bogofilter-qdbm
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/bogofilter-tdb
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/dcc-dccd
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/dspam
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/filtermail
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/hashcash
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/junkfilter
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/mailscanner
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/mailscanner-devel
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/mimedefang
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-Graph
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-snapshot
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/py-spambayes
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/pyzor
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/qconfirm
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/qsf
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/razor-agents
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/relaydb
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/sccmilter
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/smtp-vilter
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamass-milter
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spambnc
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamd
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamguard
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamoracle
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamprobe
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/spamstats
Path:   /usr/ports/mail/tmda
Path:   /usr/ports/misc/spamcalc
Path:   /usr/ports/news/cleanfeed
Path:   /usr/ports/news/nntpcache
Path:   /usr/ports/security/amavisd-new
Path:   /usr/ports/sysutils/pipemeter
Path:   /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-AntiSpam
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: ed4 on FreeBSD 5.2.1

2004-02-22 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Banana Flex wrote:

hello!

i'm a new user of FreeBSD and i have a little problem:
i can not use my PCMCIA Ethernet card on FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC2 on an i386 
platform.

how do i install the ed4 driver? i think is the correct driver
because on FreeBSD 4.9 my PCMCIA Ethernet card was properly detected 
and on  FreeBSD 5.2.1 isn't not working :-(
can i install it from the 4.9 Release? how can i?

what is the good way to make it please?
thanks you very much
Banana

Are you sure it's an ed4 driver?  Isn't
it just ed?
IIRC, ed requires device miibus in
your kernel config ... is it there?  (Note
that you didn't say *what* PCMCIA NIC
you have)
Does your 5.X system see any devices
in your PCMCIA slot?  Maybe you need
pccard or cardbus support ... (no expert
here ... my only laptop is in the junk pile
now ... I've never put FBSD on one ...yet!)
Kevin Kinsey
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Rebooting problem

2004-02-22 Thread Stephen Liu
 **

Hi all folks,

Version 5.2
new installation
On rebooting it hangs on
.
syncing disks, buffers remaining ... 5 5
done
Uptime: 45m45s
Shutting down ACPI
Rebooting...
Keyboard reset did not work, attempting CPU shutdown.
It hanged here and I have to make a 'hard reboot' by pressing 'reset' key

Kindly advise is it the size of SWAP insufficient?   If 'YES', kindly 
advise how to check it and increase its size.

TIA

B.R.
Stephen Liu
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