Re: which gray is best for print?

[Gary Kline]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 10:38:59PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:06:01 -0700, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm still open to the bg color.  The display white is not true,
> > paper-white.  Anyway, pretty sure the ink+paper publishers have
> > their own [[ BETTER ]] ideas.  I'm looking for what looks good on
> > the web.
> 
> You can't look at the Web, you're looking at a monitor or at a sheet
> of paper. :-) The same color may look different on
>   * a CRT type monitor
>   * a LCD type monitor
>   * a hardcopy done by a color laser printer
>   * a hardcopy done by a color ink pee printer
>   * ...


So you're saying that the "white" on my [monster] CRT is not the
same as on a future LCD Display?  rats:)  --I can't see much
difference in my new laserjet from my HP500 DeskJet, but then it
wasn't a main concern ... .

> 
> This is due to the nature that these devices use different color
> spaces (RGB, composed additively, CMY, composed negatively), and
> most of them even aren't calibrated. GRB and CMY are parts of the
> CIE specified space (see CIE diagram), but they don't have all the
> colors in common. There are colors you can show on a CRT, but you
> cannot print them 1:1.


I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got
far into optics.  And certainly, nothing like *this*.  the
quality of my writing is much more important that the colors of
typeface or background.  But this is an interesting side-bar.

> 
> Anyway, the best reading contrast - black on white - looks boring
> on the web, and it stresses your eyes (too much light reflected /
> emitted). Furthermore, if you select a dark color for the background,
> LCD type monitors (that have a minimal light emission even if the
> color is pure black) may look too light, while a CRT type monitor
> may display the color as dark as you intended (because when it's
> black, the CRT does not emit any light, unless, of course, the
> base brightness is needlessly adjusted above the zero point).
> 
> So much for physics, kids. :-)
> 

Really!  So far, in my tests [staring at a CRT], I find an
off-white reads most easily against a very dark blue. 33;
or whatever 66 is.  Still experimenting.

> 
> -- 
> Polytropon
> From Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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Re: pf to block against DDoS?

[Diego Schulz]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Peter N. M. Hansteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Oliver Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I can recommend reading through this as well:
> >   
> > http://www.bgnett.no/~peter/pf/en/bruteforce.html
>
> Thanks for recommending that!  However I would generally recommend the
> maintained version which is up at 
> 
> >,
> with the direct link to the part about state tracking and bruteforcers
> at 
> 
> >.
>
> (and of course there's the book, nudge, nudge)
>

I bought your book a few weeks ago, and I must say it's a great one.
I take it everywhere I go! ;)

Thanks for such an excellent resource.

best regards,

diego
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Re: Starting and using services -- Single-user mode -- TECRA_A9-S9017

[freebsd_user]

Ivan Voras wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have the need to start and use service while in single_user mode.  To
this point I'm not able to use 'top' or 'ps' respectively.  In


ps is in /bin, top is in /usr/bin ; unless you a) have your PATH wrong
or b) commonly put /bin on separate file systems, you should be able to
use ps and others in /bin and /sbin.






addition,from the CLI; when I attempt to start services such as
'portmap' and 'sshd' nothing is shown running via 'ps'.  All I see are
the headers when I issue th 'ps aux' command.


Are your world and kernel matched?


This is a failed 4.x to 5.x upgrade which I really don't want to address 
any further.  Currently, as a last effort to save this 'current' install 
I'm doing a 'make buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel and 
installworld as we speak.  Should this fail I'll continue with the topic 
of this discussion = "while in single-user mode, start enough services 
to use 'scp' and 'mv' curcial files over to another machine thereafter 
do a fresh install on the failed box in question.



I'm sure its possible to do what I'm attempting, but given the crippled
situation of this box, I'm stuck in Single-user mode and need to start
enough services that will allow the use of 'scp' in order to move some
zipped/crucial files from the crippled box to another machine on the
same network.


Until now I've tried fsck -p ; mount -u / ; mount -a -t ufs ; swapon -a

We will try your suggestions once the building finishes (on it own) to 
first see if the new build process has fixed everything (multi-user) 
that was broken and if not, we'll follow your recommendation(s).




When you enter single user mode, root file system is mounted read-only
so one of the first things you need to do is "mount -u -o rw /". Next,
you need to mount your other file systems (/usr is usually a separate
file system and that's where ssh lives) so do "mount -a". At this point
you might as well cancel the single-user mode by exiting the shell and
go multi-user.

If there are file system errors. "mount -a" will fail and you'll need to
mount other file systems by hand.


The only errors or warnings we've experienced where listed in the 4.x to 
5.x section of the 5.5 /usr/src/UPDATING file with reference to 
'userland'  The UPDATING said to ignore these errors.  Obviously 
something is seriously wrong with that section on updating from 4.x to 5.x


Enough said, we'll post one way or the other once the build is done.





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Freebsd & inspiron mini 9

[bsd]

Hi folks,


Does anyone knows if the latest mini Dell computer will be compatible  
with our favorite system?

http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=61697

From what I can read It is based on:

- a Processeur Intel®  AtomTM  (1,6 GHz, memory cache L2 de 512 Ko,  
FSB de 533 MHz)

- Chipset Intel®  965PM / GM Express


It can be shipped with Ubuntu.
So my simple question is: will It be compatible with FreeBSD 7.x ??


I know the hardware list here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#PROC-I386 
 but no link to either Atom or 965PM could be found…

Is it bad news doctor?




Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD
bsd @at@ todoo.biz


P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing  
this e-mail"



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Re: string split, bash and IFS

[Jim Hertzler]

Go to:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/bash-shell-script-split-array-383848/?posted=1#post3270996
And see:
IP=1.2.3.4; IP=(${IP//./ }); Rev=${IP[3]}.${IP[2]}.${IP[1]}.${IP[0]}


Unga wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> How to use bash and IFS to split a string?
> 
> eg. 
> $string = "Name:Surname:10"
> IFS=:
> echo "$string" | read name surname age
> 
> This does not work for some reason. The read does not create name, surname
> and age variables. Any idea why?
> 
> Appreciate your reply.
> 
> Kind regards
> Unga
> 
> 
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Re: portsnap in cron and firewall

[RW]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:26 +0100
RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:14:02 +0200
> Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
But now with portsnap cron (that's mean random sleep) I don't known
> > when the system try to connect outside. 

> You can do this
> 
> sleep `jot -r  1 0 3599`
> 
> portsnap fetch
> 
>

Actually, I just took a look at portsnap and I see that "portsnap fetch"
has an explicit check for a terminal, so it wont work from crontab.

> 
> However, I would suggest you simply create pf rules to allow the
> server contact to the portsnap servers. 
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how do I disable the generation of XOFFs when using tip over a serial port to another device

[Jeff Haran]

Dear Sirs,

I have connected one of the RS232 ports of my PC with FreeBSD (v6.3) on
it to a device that does not understand XON/XOFF flow control. I run the
tip program to connect to that device.

How do I configure tip and/or the serial port so that the FreeBSD PC
will NOT send XOFFs or XONs to the device?

When I run:

stty -a -f /dev/cuad0

where /dev/cuad0 is the device associated with the port, it outputs
(among other things):

iflags: ... ixon -ixoff ...

>From my reading of the stty man page, I would think that means the port
is already configured to not send XOFFs.

Is there something I need to do to /etc/remote to tell tip to not enable
XON/XOFF?

Please respond to this email address as I do not subscribe to the
mailing list.

Thanks,

Jeff Haran
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Re: "geli init -a hmac/sha256" does not work properly

[Cem Kayali]

Sorry, forgot to mention: This is FreeBSD 7.0 on i386 machine with SATA 
mode enabled on bios.


Regards


Cem Kayali, 09/05/08 23:20:


Hello all there!...

Once i would like to enable disk encryption with geli approcah, i 
noticed following problem:




CASE 1 | SUCCES
--- 


geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 4096 /dev/ad4s1
  This initializes geli without problem, and then once you run 
'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1' it goes as expected.

   CASE 2 | FAIL
--- 


geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 8192 /dev/ad4s1
This initializes geli with a warning message 'sector size is 
bigger than the page size' and also 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1' fails 
with following notice: 'bsdlabel: /dev/ad4s1 read: invalid argument'
 
CASE 3 | FAIL
--- 


geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 4096 -a hmac/sha256 /dev/ad4s1
This initializes geli with a warning message 'sector size is 
bigger than the page size' and also 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1' fails 
with following notice: 'bsdlabel: /dev/ad4s1 read: invalid argument'

In short, if i enable 'data integrity verification' or if i increase 
'sector size', 'bsdlabel -w' gives error message.




I thank you in advance for advises.


Regards,
Cem


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"geli init -a hmac/sha256" does not work properly

[Cem Kayali]

Hello all there!...

Once i would like to enable disk encryption with geli approcah, i 
noticed following problem:




CASE 1 | SUCCES
---
geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 4096 /dev/ad4s1
  
This initializes geli without problem, and then once you run 'bsdlabel 
-w /dev/ad4s1' it goes as expected.
  
 
CASE 2 | FAIL

---
geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 8192 /dev/ad4s1

This initializes geli with a warning message 'sector size is bigger than 
the page size' and also 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1' fails with following 
notice: 'bsdlabel: /dev/ad4s1 read: invalid argument'
 

CASE 3 | FAIL

---
geli init -b -e aes -l 256 -s 4096 -a hmac/sha256 /dev/ad4s1

This initializes geli with a warning message 'sector size is bigger than 
the page size' and also 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1' fails with following 
notice: 'bsdlabel: /dev/ad4s1 read: invalid argument'
  

   

In short, if i enable 'data integrity verification' or if i increase 
'sector size', 'bsdlabel -w' gives error message.




I thank you in advance for advises.


Regards,
Cem
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Re: which gray is best for print?

[Polytropon]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:06:01 -0700, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I'm still open to the bg color.  The display white is not true,
>   paper-white.  Anyway, pretty sure the ink+paper publishers have
>   their own [[ BETTER ]] ideas.  I'm looking for what looks good on
>   the web.

You can't look at the Web, you're looking at a monitor or at a sheet
of paper. :-) The same color may look different on
* a CRT type monitor
* a LCD type monitor
* a hardcopy done by a color laser printer
* a hardcopy done by a color ink pee printer
* ...

This is due to the nature that these devices use different color
spaces (RGB, composed additively, CMY, composed negatively), and
most of them even aren't calibrated. GRB and CMY are parts of the
CIE specified space (see CIE diagram), but they don't have all the
colors in common. There are colors you can show on a CRT, but you
cannot print them 1:1.

Anyway, the best reading contrast - black on white - looks boring
on the web, and it stresses your eyes (too much light reflected /
emitted). Furthermore, if you select a dark color for the background,
LCD type monitors (that have a minimal light emission even if the
color is pure black) may look too light, while a CRT type monitor
may display the color as dark as you intended (because when it's
black, the CRT does not emit any light, unless, of course, the
base brightness is needlessly adjusted above the zero point).

So much for physics, kids. :-)


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>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Google Chrome

[Christopher Arnold]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, John Nielsen wrote:


I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-(


It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the


Until it get's ported run it under wine!:
http://www.arnold.se/chris/2008/09/howto-run-chrome-on-freebsd-70/

It's dead easy today with the new version of wine.

And will be even easier when wine in ports get updated...

/Chris
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Re: which gray is best for print?

[Gary Kline]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 06:08:04PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 04:14:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> > This is for any webmaster types:  which color gray (in hex, "#xx")
> > is best for a site that has probably very long articles?  I've googled
> > around and found various grays such as "#696969" or "#708090", but I
> > haven't found anything that really fits what I want.  URL, anybody?
> > Or if there is a color-chooser in ports, that too, altho I haven't found
> > anything in ports/x11 or ports/www.
> > 
> > To prevent boredom, two shades of deep gray or blue-gray would be besy.
> > 
> > tia,
> > 
> > gary
> 
> I can't tell you which grey is most suitable but I can tell you how I
> go about choosing a colour.
> 
> Install: x11/rgb
> 
> Then:
> 
> $ showrgb | less
> 
> will give you the names of the 256 websafe colours and their rgb
> values.
> 
> I usually check out the colours by:
> 
> $ xterm -bg DarkSalmon
> 
> etc.
> 
> Alternatively, you can use css and set an html pages bg properties:
> 
> 
> body{
> background-color: rgb(233,150,122);
> }
> 
> 
> & view it in your browser.
> 
> -- 
> 
>  Frank 


Thanks for this.  I'll check it out when I'm less crushed!  Just
one note to the list (in case anybody else it looking for
attractive/fitting #xx codes): dark, black-ish blue #33
is very good and pleasant on the eyes; #66 even more so.

I'm still open to the bg color.  The display white is not true,
paper-white.  Anyway, pretty sure the ink+paper publishers have
their own [[ BETTER ]] ideas.  I'm looking for what looks good on
the web.

gary


> 
> 
>  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 
> 

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Problems building port, missing library(?)

[Aggelidis Nikos]

Hi to all the list,

i tried to install gtk-murrine-engine from ports...

So i first updated them:

* removed the old ports directory to start fresh and then did
csup -L 2 -h cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

*i then typed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gtk-murrine-engine

and i got the following output:

[snip]
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0
gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade.69428.0 env make reinstall
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! x11-themes/gtk-murrine-engine (install error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

so then i tried installing gio-fam-backend

so i typed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gio-fam-backend
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0
gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade.93689.0 env make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! devel/gio-fam-backend (unknown build error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed


i think the important part is:
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0

any ideas why this happened and how can i fix it?

thanks in advance for your time,
-nicolas
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Re: Strange traffic originating from httpd

[Peter Boosten]

Quoting "Peter Boosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi all,

Just today I noticed some strange UDP4 traffic from my webserver to an
IP address unknown to me, connecting to port 8000 (UDP).

Sockstat showed httpd (running as www) as the culprit.
Does anyone know what could cause this?

I run several websites (Joomla, Wordpress, Coppermine, Nucleus), so
maybe some plugin does this.


[snip]

Oke, did some checks and found the following:

the UDP connection is initiated once when anyone visits one of the  
Wordpress sites. A tcpdump shows that the IP address of the visiting  
client is transmitted to that external site, so probably it's one of  
the plugins:


- Akismet
- WP-Shortstat
- Wassup
- WPsyslog

I'm going to ask in the Wordpress groups.

Apologies for the polution :-)

Peter

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sendmail not authenticating with smart host

[Derrick Ryalls]

Greetings,

Due to port 25 restrictions, I am trying to get my brother's email
server to authenticate out on port 587.  I have sendmail talking via
port 587, but it is not properly authenticating.  To help narrow
things down, I am having his machine route all mail to my machine with
authentication.  His machine is a running version 7:   7.0-RELEASE
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008

Here are some relevant parts of the hostname.mc file:

define(`SMART_HOST', `myserver.com')
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
FEATURE(`authinfo',`hash /etc/mail/auth/client-info.db')dnl

auth/client-info has this:

AuthInfo:myserver.com "U:hisuser" "I:hisuser" "P:password" "M:PLAIN"

And I have created client-info.db hash.  I have copied the config file
workflow from my server which uses smtp auth to talk to my ISP on port
587.

On myserver.com, I do see that his machine connects to me, but I see
this error in maillog:

Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.

When I was trying to go through his ISP, I got this error message in
his error log:  stat=Service unavailable.  We share ISP (from
different states though) and I am still able to send via my ISP.  I
even tried to directly copying my auth info for the ISP from my box to
his (so he would be sending as me) and I got this same error.

Have I missed a configuration setting somewhere?
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Re: How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Mark B.]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does this look ok?

Looks good to me.

m
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Strange traffic originating from httpd

[Peter Boosten]

Hi all,

Just today I noticed some strange UDP4 traffic from my webserver to an
IP address unknown to me, connecting to port 8000 (UDP).

Sockstat showed httpd (running as www) as the culprit.
Does anyone know what could cause this?

I run several websites (Joomla, Wordpress, Coppermine, Nucleus), so
maybe some plugin does this.

My setup:

FreeBSD 7 patch 4
Apache 2.2.9_3 (from ports)
PHP5.2.6 (not from ports)

Thanks in advance for your answers.

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Re: How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:27:12 -0400, "Mark B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Giorgos Keramidas
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> $ echo '^Fhello^F' | sed -e 's/[^[:print:]]*//' | hd
>>   68 65 6c 6c 6f 06 0a  |hello..|
>> 0007
>> $
>
> In case you are interested, I've patched the re_format man page with
> this example.  I had read it, and it says :print: is the "name of the
> character class."  I think the concrete example helps clarify things.

Excellent, thank you!  Using your text as a starting point, I've
committed two examples to the manpage now: one for matching the
characters of a class, and one for matching all the characters *not* in
a class.

%%%
Index: re_format.7
===
--- re_format.7 (revision 182794)
+++ re_format.7 (working copy)
@@ -288,6 +288,14 @@
 A locale may provide others.
 A character class may not be used as an endpoint of a range.
 .Pp
+A bracketed expression like
+.Ql [[:class:]]
+can be used to match a single character that belongs to a character
+class.
+The reverse, matching any character that does not belong to a specific
+class, the negation operator of bracket expressions may be used:
+.Ql [^[:class:]] .
+.Pp
 There are two special cases\(dd of bracket expressions:
 the bracket expressions
 .Ql [[:<:]]
%%%

Does this look ok?  If not, we can commit a followup change and refine
it in the next 2-3 days.  Then I'll file an MFC request with our release
engineering team, and merge it to stable branches too.

> A follow question--is it possible to use that statement in a Makefile
> (BSD)?  A straight cut 'n paste didn't work, and I couldn't figure out
> the escaping to make it work.

It should be possible.  Quoting may be a bit trickier in Makefiles, but
can you show me the Makefile you tried?



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Re: Google Chrome

[John Nielsen]

On Friday 05 September 2008, Robert Huff wrote:
> John Nielsen writes:
> >  It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as
> >  installing the recommended versions of the dependencies
> >  (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in
> >  ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc
> >  and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it
> >  doesn't even run "configure" for some of the third-party
> >  tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac..
>
>   Have you offered your changes back to Google?

Haven't made any changes yet, just observations. I did send my updated nss 
port to the maintainer.. If I make any headway on Chromium itself I don't 
intend to keep it private, though I don't think it'll be a priority any 
time soon.

JN
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HP 2133 MiniNote & FreeBSD

[kuantem]

If anyone else out there is trying to run FreeBSD 7 on their HP 2133 MiniNote
lets share some progress.

I'm currently having issues with the Broadcom wireless card working and
along with the audio drivers. After compiling a new KERNEL the hardware is
located however I'm getting no sound and no activity from wifi.

Suggestion anyone? 

I'll post my kernel config and dmesg in a few...
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Re: which gray is best for print?

[Frank Shute]

On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 04:14:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
>
> This is for any webmaster types:  which color gray (in hex, "#xx")
> is best for a site that has probably very long articles?  I've googled
> around and found various grays such as "#696969" or "#708090", but I
> haven't found anything that really fits what I want.  URL, anybody?
> Or if there is a color-chooser in ports, that too, altho I haven't found
> anything in ports/x11 or ports/www.
> 
> To prevent boredom, two shades of deep gray or blue-gray would be besy.
> 
> tia,
> 
> gary

I can't tell you which grey is most suitable but I can tell you how I
go about choosing a colour.

Install: x11/rgb

Then:

$ showrgb | less

will give you the names of the 256 websafe colours and their rgb
values.

I usually check out the colours by:

$ xterm -bg DarkSalmon

etc.

Alternatively, you can use css and set an html pages bg properties:


body{
background-color: rgb(233,150,122);
}


& view it in your browser.

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Re: string split, bash and IFS

[Polytropon]

Please allow me a sidenote:

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Jim Hertzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
^
Isn't compatible to FreeBSD, I think, because BASH is an additional
package and the bash binary will be installed into /usr/local/bin/bash;
unless you're not using any features that are exclusively in bash
(and not in sh), declare /bin/sh as shell (standard scripting shell
in UNIX). So if you use BASH on FreeBSD, BASH scripts would need
to have the header

#!/usr/local/bin/bash

on order to operate correctly - unless, of course, you modify your
system to have BASH as /bin/bash (copying, symlinking)...



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Re: How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Mark B.]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Mark B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A follow question--is it possible to use that statement in a Makefile (BSD)?
> A straight cut 'n paste didn't work, and I couldn't figure out the escaping to
> make it work.

Never mind, it works just fine.

m
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Re: string split, bash and IFS

[Jim Hertzler]

#!/bin/bash
# Split the command line argument on the colon character.

SaveIFS=$IFS
IFS=":"
declare -a Array=($*)
IFS=SaveIFS

echo "Array[0]=${Array[0]}"
echo "Array[1]=${Array[1]}"
echo "Array[2]=${Array[2]}"
echo "Array[3]=${Array[3]}"


Unga wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> How to use bash and IFS to split a string?
> 
> eg. 
> $string = "Name:Surname:10"
> IFS=:
> echo "$string" | read name surname age
> 
> This does not work for some reason. The read does not create name, surname
> and age variables. Any idea why?
> 
> Appreciate your reply.
> 
> Kind regards
> Unga
> 
> 
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Re: How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Mark B.]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Giorgos Keramidas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> $ echo '^Fhello^F' | sed -e 's/[^[:print:]]*//' | hd
>   68 65 6c 6c 6f 06 0a  |hello..|
> 0007
> $

Thanks.

> The matching pattern is wrong.  You need `[^[:print:]]'.  The character
> class of printable characters is `[:print:]', and you can negate the
> pattern with `[^]' where `' is the character class; hence the
> extra pair of brackets in `[^[:print:]]'.

In case you are interested, I've patched the re_format man page with this
example.  I had read it, and it says :print: is the "name of the character
class."  I think the concrete example helps clarify things.

A follow question--is it possible to use that statement in a Makefile (BSD)?
A straight cut 'n paste didn't work, and I couldn't figure out the escaping to
make it work.

Thanks,

m

cd to /usr/src/lib/libc/regex/ and apply this patch.

--- /dev/null Fri Sep  5 12:12:21 2008
+++ re_format.7Fri Sep  5 12:18:29 2008
@@ -288,6 +288,10 @@
 A locale may provide others.
 A character class may not be used as an endpoint of a range.
 .Pp
+To match all characters not in a class, use a bracket expression
+like this:
+.Ql [^[:print:]] .
+.Pp
 There are two special cases\(dd of bracket expressions:
 the bracket expressions
 .Ql [[:<:]]
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Re: Starting and using services -- Single-user mode -- TECRA_A9-S9017

[Ivan Voras]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have the need to start and use service while in single_user mode.  To
> this point I'm not able to use 'top' or 'ps' respectively.  In

ps is in /bin, top is in /usr/bin ; unless you a) have your PATH wrong
or b) commonly put /bin on separate file systems, you should be able to
use ps and others in /bin and /sbin.

> addition,from the CLI; when I attempt to start services such as
> 'portmap' and 'sshd' nothing is shown running via 'ps'.  All I see are
> the headers when I issue th 'ps aux' command.

Are your world and kernel matched?

> I'm sure its possible to do what I'm attempting, but given the crippled
> situation of this box, I'm stuck in Single-user mode and need to start
> enough services that will allow the use of 'scp' in order to move some
> zipped/crucial files from the crippled box to another machine on the
> same network.

When you enter single user mode, root file system is mounted read-only
so one of the first things you need to do is "mount -u -o rw /". Next,
you need to mount your other file systems (/usr is usually a separate
file system and that's where ssh lives) so do "mount -a". At this point
you might as well cancel the single-user mode by exiting the shell and
go multi-user.

If there are file system errors. "mount -a" will fail and you'll need to
mount other file systems by hand.



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Re: portsnap in cron and firewall

[RW]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:14:02 +0200
Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I've some servers for internal use. On those servers I have some pf
> (or ipfw) rule to deny any connection from inside to outside. 
> 
> Long time ago when ports tree is update with cvs, I'm using something
> like
> 
> pf command to open inside --> outside connection
> cvsup 
> portupgrade --fetch-only --all
> pf command to close inside --> outside connection
> 
> But now with portsnap cron (that's mean random sleep) I don't known
> when the system try to connect outside. 
> 
> Do you have any idea how can I make my update using portsnap (I known

You can do this"

sleep `jot -r  1 0 3599`

portsnap fetch



However, I would suggest you simply create pf rules to allow the
server contact to the portsnap servers. 
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Re: portsnap in cron and firewall

[Albert Shih]

 Le 05/09/2008 à 11:51:57-0400, Sean Cavanaugh a écrit
> ---
> >
> > Yes I known. That's why I'm asking you how can I make portsnap through the
> > cron and opening firewall just before he going to make the connection.
> >
> > Of course I can hack the portsnap to make he don't try to see if it's fork
> > by cron or not. But it's not a good idea IMHO, what's happen if all person
> > do that ?
> 
> I think you misread what i was saying. Inside your cron job use "portsnap
> fetch" instead of "portsnap cron". that way it will fetch exactly when you run
> the cron job, without the randomized delay.
>  
> most likely a shell script that would have the following:
> 1)open pf
> 2)portsnap fetch
> 3)portsnap update (<- you were missing this important step also)
> 4)portupgrade --fetch-only --all
> 5)close pf

Yes I known ;-) and I understand what you saying. But what I'm saying is if
the developper of portsnap think it's useful to put some randomized delay
I'm going to follow this. Because if I make what you say how can I known
after 1 or 2 years there no other enough users to do same thing and make the
portsnap server overload ? Event I make some «randomize» time in the
crontab it's only when I make the crontab, that's mean every day the
portsnap is launch in the same moment. 

The best solution is to make some «hook_script» in the portsnap and after
the randomize delay is over just before the fetch is launch to run a
hook-script

So now 
portsnap cron = sleep random_time; portsnap fetch

what I think is 

portsnap cron -h hook-script = sleep random_time; sh hook-script; 
portsnap fetch

regards.


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RE: portsnap in cron and firewall

[Sean Cavanaugh]

> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:43:44 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: portsnap in cron 
> and firewall> > > Le 05/09/2008 à 11:33:59-0400, Sean Cavanaugh a écrit> > > 
> > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:14:02 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > 
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: portsnap in cron and> > > 
> firewall> > Hi all> > I've some servers for internal use. On those> > > 
> servers I have some pf (or> ipfw) rule to deny any connection from> > > 
> inside to outside. > > Long time ago when ports tree is update with> > > cvs, 
> I'm using something like> > pf command to open inside -->> > > outside 
> connection> cvsup > portupgrade --fetch-only --all> pf> > > command to close 
> inside --> outside connection> > But now with> > > portsnap cron (that's mean 
> random sleep) I don't known when> the> > > system try to connect outside. > > 
> Do you have any idea how can I> > > make my update using portsnap (I known I 
> can> use cvsup) in a> > > crontab with my network config ? >> > > > "portsnap 
> cron" just randomizes the time to download unlike "portsnap> > fetch" which 
> says to do it right now. cron was added to help randomize> > the time so 
> everyone syncing at midnight UTC arent all hitting at> > exact same time.> > 
> Yes I known. That's why I'm asking you how can I make portsnap through the> 
> cron and opening firewall just before he going to make the connection.> > Of 
> course I can hack the portsnap to make he don't try to see if it's fork> by 
> cron or not. But it's not a good idea IMHO, what's happen if all person> do 
> that ? 
I think you misread what i was saying. Inside your cron job use "portsnap 
fetch" instead of "portsnap cron". that way it will fetch exactly when you run 
the cron job, without the randomized delay.
 
most likely a shell script that would have the following:
1)open pf
2)portsnap fetch
3)portsnap update (<- you were missing this important step also)
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Re: portsnap in cron and firewall

[Albert Shih]

 Le 05/09/2008 à 11:33:59-0400, Sean Cavanaugh a écrit
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:14:02 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: portsnap in cron and
> > firewall> > Hi all> > I've some servers for internal use. On those
> > servers I have some pf (or> ipfw) rule to deny any connection from
> > inside to outside. > > Long time ago when ports tree is update with
> > cvs, I'm using something like> > pf command to open inside -->
> > outside connection> cvsup > portupgrade --fetch-only --all> pf
> > command to close inside --> outside connection> > But now with
> > portsnap cron (that's mean random sleep) I don't known when> the
> > system try to connect outside. > > Do you have any idea how can I
> > make my update using portsnap (I known I can> use cvsup) in a
> > crontab with my network config ? >
>  
> "portsnap cron" just randomizes the time to download unlike "portsnap
> fetch" which says to do it right now. cron was added to help randomize
> the time so everyone syncing at midnight UTC arent all hitting at
> exact same time.

Yes I known. That's why I'm asking you how can I make portsnap through the
cron and opening firewall just before he going to make the connection.

Of course I can hack the portsnap to make he don't try to see if it's fork
by cron or not. But it's not a good idea IMHO, what's happen if all person
do that ? 

Regards.

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Starting and using services -- Single-user mode -- TECRA_A9-S9017

[freebsd_user]

I have the need to start and use service while in single_user mode.  To 
this point I'm not able to use 'top' or 'ps' respectively.  In 
addition,from the CLI; when I attempt to start services such as 
'portmap' and 'sshd' nothing is shown running via 'ps'.  All I see are 
the headers when I issue th 'ps aux' command.


I'm sure its possible to do what I'm attempting, but given the crippled 
situation of this box, I'm stuck in Single-user mode and need to start 
enough services that will allow the use of 'scp' in order to move some 
zipped/crucial files from the crippled box to another machine on the 
same network.



There are no other options, I need to do this from single-user mode.
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RE: portsnap in cron and firewall

[Sean Cavanaugh]

> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:14:02 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: portsnap in cron and firewall> > Hi 
> all> > I've some servers for internal use. On those servers I have some pf 
> (or> ipfw) rule to deny any connection from inside to outside. > > Long time 
> ago when ports tree is update with cvs, I'm using something like> > pf 
> command to open inside --> outside connection> cvsup > portupgrade 
> --fetch-only --all> pf command to close inside --> outside connection> > But 
> now with portsnap cron (that's mean random sleep) I don't known when> the 
> system try to connect outside. > > Do you have any idea how can I make my 
> update using portsnap (I known I can> use cvsup) in a crontab with my network 
> config ? > 
 
"portsnap cron" just randomizes the time to download unlike "portsnap fetch" 
which says to do it right now. cron was added to help randomize the time so 
everyone syncing at midnight UTC arent all hitting at exact same 
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Re: How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:14:08 -0400, "Mark B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a text file that includes some non-ASCII characters
> For example, opening the file in vi shows lines like this:
>
>  'easth_0.541716776378'  0   \xe2\x80\x98dire'   2
>
> Is there a command-line tool I can use to delete these
> characters?  I tried:
>
> cat f | tr -cd [:print:]
>
> but this removes the newlines.

Hi Mark,

It may be more useful to run the file through sed(1).  The newlines
aren't deleted by sed:

$ echo '^Fhello^F' | sed -e 's/[^[:print:]]*//' | hd
  68 65 6c 6c 6f 06 0a  |hello..|
0007
$

> I also tried
>
>cat f | sed "s/[^:print:]//g"
>
> but it didn't remove the characters.

The matching pattern is wrong.  You need `[^[:print:]]'.  The character
class of printable characters is `[:print:]', and you can negate the
pattern with `[^]' where `' is the character class; hence the
extra pair of brackets in `[^[:print:]]'.

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How to delete non-ASCII chars in file

[Mark B.]

I have a text file that includes some non-ASCII characters
For example, opening the file in vi shows lines like this:

 'easth_0.541716776378'  0   \xe2\x80\x98dire'   2

Is there a command-line tool I can use to delete these
characters?  I tried:

cat f | tr -cd [:print:]

but this removes the newlines.

I also tried

   cat f | sed "s/[^:print:]//g"

but it didn't remove the characters.

Thanks,

m
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Re: Google Chrome

[Robert Huff]

John Nielsen writes:

>  It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as
>  installing the recommended versions of the dependencies
>  (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in
>  ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc
>  and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it
>  doesn't even run "configure" for some of the third-party
>  tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac..

Have you offered your changes back to Google?


Robert Huff


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portsnap in cron and firewall

[Albert Shih]

Hi all

I've some servers for internal use. On those servers I have some pf (or
ipfw) rule to deny any connection from inside to outside. 

Long time ago when ports tree is update with cvs, I'm using something like

pf command to open inside --> outside connection
cvsup 
portupgrade --fetch-only --all
pf command to close inside --> outside connection

But now with portsnap cron (that's mean random sleep) I don't known when
the system try to connect outside. 

Do you have any idea how can I make my update using portsnap (I known I can
use cvsup) in a crontab with my network config ? 

Regards.

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flyspray and php 5/postgresql weirdness, help ...

[O. Hartmann]

hello,
for development in our scientific environment I setup 
/usr/ports/devel/flyspray, running with a postgresql 8.3.3 backend on a 
FreeBSD 7.1-PRE box.
After a successful installation, I get this error while trying to reach 
the freshly installed server via https://host/flyspray/:


Query {SELECT p.*, c.content AS pm_instructions, c.last_updated AS 
cache_update FROM "flyspray_projects" p LEFT JOIN "flyspray_cache" c ON 
c.topic = p.project_id AND c.type = 'msg' WHERE p.project_id = ?} with 
params {1} Failed! (ERROR: operator does not exist: character varying = 
integer LINE 3: ... LEFT JOIN "flyspray_cache" c ON c.topic = 
p.projec... ^ HINT: No operator matches the given name and argument 
type(s). You might need to add explicit type casts.)


I do not know whether the shown problem is postgresql-syntactical or a 
php 5 problem, so I guess it's a kind of both.


By the way, the webserver is Lighttpd and not Apache, so it may could be 
a fastcgi.server problem?


I would appreciate any hint or tip, thanks a lot ...

Oliver


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Re: Google Chrome

[John Nielsen]

On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In Google Chrome System requirements
> >> (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411&to
> >>pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in
> >> the "Download and install" help article
> >> (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346&qu
> >>ery=open-source&topic=&type=) they say that it is open-source.
> >>
> >> Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version?
> >
> > If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to
> > volunteer :-)
>
> I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-(

It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the 
recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version 
ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the 
existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I 
discovered that it doesn't even run "configure" for some of the third-party 
tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac..

JN
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broken autoconf upgrade

[Michael P. Soulier]

While running portupgrade -ai, I noticed this

else \
  rc=$?; \
  cd . && \
  $restore $backupdir/* `echo "./autoconf-2.62.info" | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`
; \
fi; \
rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc
autoconf-2.62.texi:1723: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3353: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3920: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3935: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3947: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3965: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:3986: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:4001: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:4019: Unknown command `'.
autoconf-2.62.texi:4027: Unknown command `'.

So, this won't upgrade. Anyone else see that?

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
--Albert Einstein
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Re: Google Chrome

[Wojciech Puchar]

As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no more 
of that than other existing browsers, according to:


http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/


of course. they just start.. just wait a bit
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Re: freebsd-update

[Michael Lednev]

Vlad GURDIGA пишет:

I guess this does not update my running kernel and I have to reboot to
really update it. Right? Or is there any way to do this without
reboot? O course I doubt it but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing
some magic feature... :-).


  


Yes, reboot is required.

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freebsd-update

[Vlad GURDIGA]

Hello,

I've run today "freebsd-update fetch" and it found some updates,
including /boot/kernel/kernel:

The following files will be updated as part of updating to 7.0-RELEASE-p4:
/boot/kernel/kernel
/boot/kernel/kernel.symbols
/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S
/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c
/usr/src/sys/netinet6/icmp6.c

Then I ran "freebsd-update install"

# freebsd-update install
Installing updates... done.

I guess this does not update my running kernel and I have to reboot to
really update it. Right? Or is there any way to do this without
reboot? O course I doubt it but I'd like to make sure I'm not missing
some magic feature... :-).

Thanks!
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Re: Automatically starting user programs on boot

[davidcollins001]

>
> Minda sharing your .screenrc?
>


Sure, here it is. I have set the escape character to [ because it is
easier on my little finger than the default ctrl-a. It is easily
changed by changing escape to 'escape ^pP'. If you leave it as [ it
will play havok when trying to paste text into a terminal since
everytime it reads [ it reads the char after and does what ever that
binding does.

I haven't really changed much, but the important thing for me was the
hard status line. I found the default difficult to remember what was
open, I have set it up so that it shows all windows open with the
current highlighted in red with the host and time and date on the
right. There are probably other smart things that can be done, but
this suits me for now :)

$ cat ~/.screenrc
## to open multiple buffers:
## place dir and name in file in format
##   screen -t name
##   chdir dir
##   screen -t name2
##   chdir dir2
##   chdir
##
## call from in screen with
## (current screen has high number)
##  :source "file"
## or source it in .screenrc file

#source /tmp/screen_open

# COPY MODE
#Emacs  style  movement  keys  can  be customized by a
#  .screenrc command.  (E.g. markkeys "h=^B:l=^F:$=^E")
#There is no simple method for a full emacs-style keymap, as
#  this involves multi-character codes.



#
# Example of a user's .screenrc file
#

# This is how one can set a reattach password:
# password ODSJQf.4IJN7E# "1234"

# no annoying audible bell, please
vbell off

# start in $HOME directory
#chdir ${HOME}

# set file to copy paste buffer to
bufferfile /tmp/buf

# set activity alert
activity 'Activity in windown %n'

# detach on hangup
autodetach on

# don't display the copyright page
startup_message off

# emulate .logout message
pow_detach_msg "Screen session of \$LOGNAME \$:cr:\$:nl:ended."

# advertise hardstatus support to $TERMCAP
# termcapinfo  * '' 'hs:ts=\E_:fs=\E\\:ds=\E_\E\\'

# make the shell in every window a login shell
#shell -$SHELL

# autoaka testing
# shellaka '> |tcsh'
# shellaka '$ |sh'

# set every new windows hardstatus line to somenthing descriptive
# defhstatus "screen: ^En (^Et)"

defscrollback 1000

# don't kill window after the process died
# zombie "^["

# enable support for the "alternate screen" capability in all windows
# altscreen on


#
# xterm tweaks
#
#
# #xterm understands both im/ic and doesn't have a status line.
# #Note: Do not specify im and ic in the real termcap/info file as
# #some programs (e.g. vi) will not work anymore.
# termcap  xterm hs@:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:im=\E[4h:ei=\E[4l
# terminfo xterm hs@:cs=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr:im=\E[4h:ei=\E[4l
#
# #80/132 column switching must be enabled for ^AW to work
# #change init sequence to not switch width
# termcapinfo  xterm Z0=\E[?3h:Z1=\E[?3l:is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;4;6l
#
# # Make the output buffer large for (fast) xterms.
# #termcapinfo xterm* OL=1
# termcapinfo xterm* OL=100
#
# # tell screen that xterm can switch to dark background and has function
# # keys.
# termcapinfo xterm 'VR=\E[?5h:VN=\E[?5l'
# termcapinfo xterm 'k1=\E[11~:k2=\E[12~:k3=\E[13~:k4=\E[14~'
# termcapinfo xterm 'kh=\EOH:kI=\E[2~:kD=\E[3~:kH=\EOF:kP=\E[5~:kN=\E[6~'
#
# # special xterm hardstatus: use the window title.
# termcapinfo xterm 'hs:ts=\E]2;:fs=\007:ds=\E]2;screen\007'
#
# #terminfo xterm 'vb=\E[?5h$<200/>\E[?5l'
# termcapinfo xterm 'vi=\E[?25l:ve=\E[34h\E[?25h:vs=\E[34l'
#
# # emulate part of the 'K' charset
# termcapinfo   xterm 'XC=K%,%\E(B,[\304,\326,]\334,{\344,|\366,}\374,~\337'
#
# # xterm-52 tweaks:
# # - uses background color for delete operations
# termcapinfo xterm* be


# terminfo and termcap for nice 256 color terminal
# allow bold colors - necessary for some reason
attrcolor b ".I"
# tell screen how to set colors. AB = background, AF=foreground
termcapinfo xterm 'Co#256:AB=\E8;5;%dm:AF=\E8;5;%dm'
# erase background with current bg color
defbce "on"

# 
# #
# # wyse terminals
# #
#
# #wyse-75-42 must have flow control (xo = "terminal uses xon/xoff")
# #essential to have it here, as this is a slow terminal.
# termcapinfo wy75-42 xo:hs@
#
# # New termcap sequences for cursor application mode.
# termcapinfo wy*
CS=\E[?1h:CE=\E[?1l:vi=\E[?25l:ve=\E[?25h:VR=\E[?5h:VN=\E[?5l:cb=\E[1K:CD=\E[1J
#
# 
# #
# # other terminals
# #
#
# # make hp700 termcap/info better
# termcapinfo  hp700
'Z0=\E[?3h:Z1=\E[?3l:hs:ts=\E[62"p\E[0$~\E[2$~\E[1$}:fs=\E[0}\E[61"p:ds=\E[62"p\E[1$~\E[61"p:ic@'
#
# # Extend the vt100 desciption by some sequences.
# termcap  vt100* ms:AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:UP=\E[%dA:DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC
# terminfo vt100*
ms:AL=\E[%p1%dL:DL=\E[%p1%dM:UP=\E[%p1%dA:DO=\E[%p1%dB:LE=\E[%p1%dD:RI=\E[%p1%dC
# termcapinfo linux C8
# # old rxvt versions also need this
# # termcapinfo rxvt C8
#
#

#
# keybindings
#

# remap C-a  to t
#escape ^Zz
escape [[   # try this !?! - press open bracket then cmd
# n

Re: Automatically starting user programs on boot

[Ricardo Jesus]

David Collins wrote:

|> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:06:54 +0200 (CEST)
|> From: Sa?a Stupar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|> Subject: Automatically starting user programs on boot
|> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
|> Message-ID:
|><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-2
|>
|> Hi!
|>
|> On my FBSD 7 server I also use screen with rtorrent. In case of server
|> reboot (power outage, server goes on UPS then power down) the user need
|> manually to login, then start screen and then rtorrent. Is it possible to
|> start this procedure automatically and of course as certain user and not
|> as root?
|> I was thinking about .startup file or something in users home directory.
|>
|> Regards,
|> Sasa

Hi,

I have been using rtorrent and screen for a while now, it is a great
setup. Anyway, I found an rc.d file for debian that I have changed to
make work for me on freebsd 7. I doubt it is as good as it could be,
but hey, it works fine for me :)

You will have to change some of the variables at the top of the file.
It opens screen on boot, names it rtorrent and starts rtorrent, does
its thing in the background. To connect to it type screen -r rtorrent

I placed it in /usr/local/etc/rc.d since it isn't part of the base
distribution. I also named it with a .sh suffix, I forget why but it
is something to do with a controlling terminal, I think. I also have a
nice .screenrc file if you would like since I know how much of a pain
it is to figure out!

$ cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d
#!/bin/sh

# PROVIDE: rtorrent
# REQUIRE: DAEMON

#
##
#
# This script depends on screen.
# For the stop function to work, you must set an
# explicit session directory using ABSOLUTE paths (no, ~ is not
absolute) in your rtorrent.rc.
# If you typically just start rtorrent with just "rtorrent" on the
# command line, all you need to change is the "user" option.
# Attach to the screen session as your user with
# "screen -dr rtorrent". Change "rtorrent" with srnname option.
# Licensed under the GPLv2 by lostnihilist: lostnihilist _at_ gmail _dot_ com
##
##
##

###
##Start Configuration##
###
# You can specify your configuration in a different file
# (so that it is saved with upgrades, saved in your home directory,
# or whateve reason you want to)
# by commenting out/deleting the configuration lines and placing them
# in a text file (say /home/user/.rtorrent.init.conf) exactly as you would
# have written them here (you can leave the comments if you desire
# and then uncommenting the following line correcting the path/filename
# for the one you used. note the space after the ".".
# . /etc/rtorrent.init.conf

# system user to run as
user="davidcollins"

# the system group to run as, not implemented, see d_start for
beginning implementation
# group=`id -ng "$user"`

# the full path to the filename where you store your rtorrent configuration
config="`su $user -c 'echo $HOME'`/.rtorrent.rc"

# set of options to run with
options=""

# default directory for screen, needs to be an absolute path
base="`su $user -c 'echo $HOME'`"

# name of screen session
srnname="rtorrent"

# file to log to (makes for easier debugging if something goes wrong)
logfile="/var/log/rtorrentInit.log"
###
###END CONFIGURATION###
###

. /etc/rc.subr

PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin
name=rtorrent

rcvar=`set_rcvar`
eval "${rcvar}=\${${rcvar}:-'NO'}"

start_precmd=checkcnfg
start_cmd="${name}_start"
stop_cmd="${name}_stop"

checkcnfg() {
exists=0
for i in `echo "$PATH" | tr ':' '\n'` ; do
if [ -f $i/$name ] ; then
exists=1
break
fi
done
if [ $exists -eq 0 ] ; then
err 3 "cannot find rtorrent binary in PATH $PATH"
fi
if ! [ -r "${config}" ] ; then
err 3 "cannot find readable config ${config}. check that it is
there and permissions are appropriate"
fi
session=`getsession "$config"`
if ! [ -d "${session}" ] ; then
err 3 "cannot find readable session directory ${session} from
config ${config}. check permissions"
fi
}

rtorrent_start()
{
echo "Starting $name."
[ -d "${base}" ] && cd "${base}"
stty stop undef && stty start undef
## start screen with rtorrent inside
su ${user} -c "screen -dm -S "${srnname}" ${name} ${options} 2>&1
1>/dev/null" | tee -a "$logfile" >&2
}

rtorrent_stop()
{
echo "Stopping $name."
session=`getsession "$config"`
if ! [ -s ${session}/rtorrent.lock ] ; then
return
fi
pid=`cat ${session}/rtorrent.lock | awk -F: '{print($2)}' | sed
"s/[^0-9]//g"`
## make sure the pid doesn't belong to another process
if ps -A | grep -sq ${pid}.*rtorrent ; then
kill -s INT ${pid}
fi
}

getsession()
{
session=`cat "$1" | grep "^[[:space:]]*session[[:space:]]*=" | sed
"s/^[[:space:]]*session[[:space:]]*=[

Re: Google Chrome

[Kris Kennaway]

jef moskot wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser 
collect our valuable data?


What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? 
Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's 
collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, 
private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents and 
records on Google servers is a great idea.


> Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them
> with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable
> explanation for the creation of the tool.

The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its 
Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers.  Javascript is 
what is used to run the client side of "web applications"...like Google 
Docs, and other Google applications.


Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's 
ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future.


As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no 
more of that than other existing browsers, according to:


http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/

Kris

P.S. This thread is off-topic for freebsd-questions, redirecting to chat.
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Re: /: write failed, filesystem is full

[Nikola Knežević]

On 5 Sep 2008, at 04:34 , Gautham Ganapathy wrote:



As soon as I start copying files from FTP, this is the error I get:
/: write failed, filesystem is full



I used to get the same error on freebsd 7.0-release if the bsd  
partition was
not aligned to cylinder boundaries. did sysinstall give any warnings  
about

this when you partitioned your harddrive?


No, there was no warning about alignment. Only warning was about disk  
geometry.


I tried to install FreeBSD couple of times, and third time it worked  
like charm :) No warning, no errors. Since I have two machines which  
are the same, I will try the second one today.


Cheers,
Nikola
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Re: [kde-freebsd] upgrading kdeartwork to version 4.1.1 fetch error in ports

[Martin Wilke]

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Hash: SHA1

Your portstree is broken please resync.


On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 02:01:49PM -0700, Dino Vliet wrote:
> Hi peeps,I want to upgrade my kde41 installation and the kdeartwork port 
> gives me troubles. I can't seem to fetch the files due to some checksum 
> mismatch. Can you help me out?The commands I entered and the output is here:# 
> portversion -l "<" 
> # kdeartwork  <   
> 
> # portupgrade -aRr   
> --->  Upgrading 'kdeartwork-4.1.0_1' to 'kdeartwork-4.1.1' 
> (x11-themes/kdeartwork4) 
> --->  Building '/usr/ports/x11-themes/kdeartwork4'
>   
> ===>  Cleaning for kdeartwork-4.1.1   
>   
> ===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
>   
> ===>  Found saved configuration for kdeartwork-4.1.1
> ===>  Extracting for kdeartwork-4.1.1
> => MD5 Checksum mismatch for KDE/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2.
> => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for KDE/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2.
> ===>  Refetch for 1 more times files: KDE/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2 
> KDE/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2
> ===>  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
> ===>  Found saved configuration for kdeartwork-4.1.1
> => kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE.
> => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: 
> http://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: 
> Forbidden
> => Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: 
> http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: Not 
> Found
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.kde.org/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.solnet.ch/mirror/KDE/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> http://kde.mirrors.tds.net/pub/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/unix/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: 
> ftp://ftp.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de/pub/unix/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2:
>  File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
> => Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from ftp://mirrors.dotsrc.org/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> http://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: 
> http://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: 
> Moved Permanently
> => Attempting to fetch from http://kambing.vlsm.org/kde/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from http://mirrors.evolva.ro/kdeftp/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> fetch: kdeartwork-4.1.1.tar.bz2: local modification time does not match remote
> => Attempting to fetch from 
> ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.kde.org/stable/4.1.1/src/.
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/graphics/digikam]# portversion -l "<"
>  
> kdeartwork 

RE: Google Chrome

[Wojciech Puchar]

our valuable data?


What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? Everything 
Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's collecting the 
world's email or convincing corporations, universities, private citizens, and 
everyone else that storing all their documents and records on Google servers 
is a great idea.


EXACTLY like that. and google succeed in it, showing well that most 
people, even being doctors, professors etc.. don't understand such a 
simple thing. but it's their problem, as long as i'm not FORCED to use it.


Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them with 
their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable explanation for 
the creation of the tool.


with some private person or a few - it could be possible that they do it 
because they like, and give it for free.


but certainly not in a huge corporation
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Re: ThinkPad 3.0GHz: can anybody verify?

[Wojciech Puchar]

> This could lead me way into off-topic-ness, so I'm going to leave it
> alone ;)

As in, what's the RGB code for Thinkpad Black? :)



#00 ?
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