am I the only one, wrt gcc44 -- it is failing and I can't build octave or much else
'everything; is dying in /usr/ports/lang/gcc44 I know, (in all likelihood,) I'll have to scratch this area and do a complete re-install. Fine. The thing is, I didn't change anything to mess this area up in the first place. I've just been going to various directories in /usr/ports and saying, make install clean and now this... I was trying to put up octave when this happened. So I could use a little help here, please... I also want/need to run X, and my X session (just put up,) doesn't yet let me move the mouse. I installed hal and dbus but what do I do now? And where or where do I put the ServerFlags entry in my xorg.conf file. I'm sorry, I just don't know these things... === Building for gcc-4.4.2.20091006 echo stage3 stage_final gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' rm -f stage_current gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libiberty' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libiberty/testsuite' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libiberty/testsuite' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libiberty' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/intl' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/intl' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/libiberty' gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/libiberty/testsuite' gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/libiberty/testsuite' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/libiberty' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/fixincludes' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/build-i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/fixincludes' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/zlib' true AR_FLAGS=rc CC_FOR_BUILD=cc CFLAGS=-g -fkeep-inline-functions CXXFLAGS=-g -fkeep-inline-functions CFLAGS_FOR_BUILD=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/l ocal/include CFLAGS_FOR_TARGET=-g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include INSTALL=/usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel INSTALL_DATA=install -o root - g wheel -m 444 INSTALL_PROGRAM=install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 INSTALL_SCRIPT=install -o root -g wheel -m 555 LDFLAGS= LIBCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasin g -pipe -I/usr/local/include LIBCFLAGS_FOR_TARGET=-g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include MAKE=gmake MAKEINFO=makeinfo --no-split --split-size=5000 000 --split-size=500 --split-size=500 PICFLAG= PICFLAG_FOR_TARGET= SHELL=/bin/sh EXPECT=expect RUNTEST=runtest RUNTESTFLAGS= exec_prefix=/usr/loca l infodir=/usr/local/info/gcc44 libdir=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 prefix=/usr/local tooldir=/usr/local/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2 AR=ar AS=as CC=cc CXX=c++ LD= /usr/bin/ld LIBCFLAGS=-g -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include NM=nm PICFLAG= RANLIB=ranlib DESTDIR= DO=all multi-do # gmake gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/zlib' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libcpp' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libcpp' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libdecnumber' gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/libdecnumber' gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/gcc' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/lang/gcc44/work/build/gcc' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
At Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:32:02 +1100, Rob Hurle wrote: Thank you to everyone who answered: kldload fusefs What does ls -la /dev/da* show you. So the device is there, but ntfs-3g fails to see it. Probably kldload fusefs isn't loaded (until Saturday) Yes, fuse.ko had to me copied from /usr/local/modules to /boot/kernel and then kloaded. Everything is fine now. Thanks again. No. You only have to add fusefs_enable=YES to your /etc/rc.conf and run '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/fusefs start' or reboot. - Herbert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: am I the only one, wrt gcc44 -- it is failing and I can't build octave or much else
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:53:36 -0400 Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com wrote: 'everything; is dying in /usr/ports/lang/gcc44 Update and clean out your ports tree (portsnap/ portsclean). And then rebuild octave. Take a look at the error message. Does it tell you to put something like kern.maxdsiz=734003200 into /boot/loader.conf? I also want/need to run X, and my X session (just put up,) doesn't yet let me move the mouse. I installed hal and dbus but what do I do now? And where or where do I put the ServerFlags entry in my xorg.conf file. I'm sorry, I just don't know these things... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565|http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 pgpbhb1exnbOn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: am I the only one, wrt gcc44 -- it is failing and I can't build octave or much else
Henry Olyer wrote: 'everything; is dying in /usr/ports/lang/gcc44 I know, (in all likelihood,) I'll have to scratch this area and do a complete re-install. Fine. The thing is, I didn't change anything to mess this area up in the first place. I've just been going to various directories in /usr/ports and saying, make install clean and now this... I was trying to put up octave when this happened. Why don't you try 'make clean install make clean' , to ensure that you are starting from scratch, with a clean WRKDIR? If that fails, send a full transcript of the failed build to the lang/gcc44 port maintainer. script(1) is useful for producing a full transcript. So I could use a little help here, please... I also want/need to run X, and my X session (just put up,) doesn't yet let me move the mouse. I installed hal and dbus but what do I do now? hal and dbus are not required, if you have the proper entries in your xorg.conf, although some people find them useful. Can you use the mouse in the console with moused(8)? If not, then there may be a problem with the mouse. Did you try running 'Xorg -configure' to see what sample configuration file it constructs for your hardware, especially the entries, if any, for the mouse? And where or where do I put the ServerFlags entry in my xorg.conf file. I'm sorry, I just don't know these things... In it's own section, offset by: Section ServerFlags ... EndSection xorg.conf(5) claims the order of the sections is unimportant. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ipf firewall, dropping connections
Hi, I'm runing 7.2 with IPFilter - main purpose is for a news server. Many established connections are just dropped and closed, it seems to be random, all allow rules are being affected. Any insight would be appreciated. The machine is under heavy usage, averaging arround 150 to 200 connections per second. [r...@news ~]# ipfstat bad packets:in 0out 0 IPv6 packets: in 0 out 0 input packets: blocked 22570422 passed 488309778 nomatch 146719580 counted 0 short 0 output packets: blocked 21885 passed 507034679 nomatch 160765161 counted 0 short 0 input packets logged: blocked 22570422 passed 0 output packets logged: blocked 0 passed 0 packets logged:input 0 output 0 log failures: input 12571655 output 0 fragment state(in): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 fragment state(out):kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 packet state(in): kept 14100 lost 2770255 packet state(out): kept 22966740 lost 8078847 ICMP replies: 0 TCP RSTs sent: 0 Invalid source(in): 0 Result cache hits(in): 17487490(out): 21607481 IN Pullups succeeded: 9 failed: 0 OUT Pullups succeeded: 1092failed: 0 Fastroute successes:0 failures: 0 TCP cksum fails(in):0 (out): 0 IPF Ticks: 325071 Packet log flags set: (0) none [r...@wa-cpt-news ~]# cat /etc/ipf.rules ### ### Globals ### block in log quick all with frags # TCP Fragments block in log quick all with short # Short Fragments block in log quick all with ipopts # Invalid IP Options ### ### Loopback Interface ### pass in quick on lo0 from any to 127.0.0.0/8 pass out quick on lo0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any ### ## em0 - Public NIC ### # em0 - Outbound Traffic pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.a to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.21 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.22 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.23 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.24 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.59.30 to any keep state pass in quick on em0 from 196.220.59.0/27 to a.a.a.a # Internal Network Traffic pass in quick on em0 proto icmp from any to a.a.a.a keep state # ICMP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any port = 53 to a.a.a.a # DNS (Responces) pass in quick on em0 proto udp from any port = 53 to a.a.a.a # DNS (Responces) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.185.0.0/16 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.211.26.0/24 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.0/19 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119# NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119# NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto udp from x.220.59.143/32 to a.a.a.a port = 161# SNMP pass in quick on em0 proto udp from
Re: WD External Disc Drive
Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Disk: disk pack, hard disk, disk drive Disc: optical disc, magneto-optical disc, disc drive In your special case, you can even say that your external hard disk shows up as a disc in Windows. It's correct. I know it may sound impolite (but it is not meant to be), but using the correct terminology is very important if you want to be understood correctly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:33:16 +1100, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: I need to transfer between FreeBSD and Windows, both ways :-( Could you imagine to use FAT instead of NTFS, or do you intendedly require features that are specific to NTFS? I found that FAT - in FreeBSD: msdosfs - is sufficient for transfer tasks. It doesn't require fuse, you have r/w by kernel means (refer to man mount_msdosfs). Of course, this would require new initialising of the disk. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can't make www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
Jamie Griffin j...@gmx.com writes: Hi, i'm trying to build the www/linux-f10-flashplugin port and i'm getting the following error on make: /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 79: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 145: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==-f10) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 171: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 173: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==-f8) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 421: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 459: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==-f8) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 461: if-less else /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 463: if-less endif /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 477: Malformed conditional ($LINUX_DIST_SUFFIX}==-f8) /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 479: if-less else /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.linux-apps.mk, line 481: if-less endif Error expanding embedded variable. I don't know what this means and i'm not sure how to fix it. Can anyone help? I'm using FreeBSD 7.2, my ports tree is up to date (did it earlier today). I did have flashplugin 9 installed with the linux-f4-core, but i've removed this, installed the f10-core and then started having problems with the flashplugin. Thanks in advance for any advice/help. The port www/linux-f10-flashplugin needs linux -f10- ports. The latter are defaults for FreeBSD-8.x and later. You can use them at 7.2 (7.2-STABLE is preferred). For more unformation take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING 20090401: AFFECTS: users of linux Fedora 8 infrastructure ports (it deals with non default f8 ports, f10 are the same with f10 value). HTH Please, keep in mind that those ports are not defaults for 7.x. -- WBR, bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: ipf firewall, dropping connections
I'm guessing you have kernel tuning issues that have nothing to do with the firewall. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-kernel-limits.html ckn...@savage.za.org wrote: Hi, I'm runing 7.2 with IPFilter - main purpose is for a news server. Many established connections are just dropped and closed, it seems to be random, all allow rules are being affected. Any insight would be appreciated. The machine is under heavy usage, averaging arround 150 to 200 connections per second. [r...@news ~]# ipfstat bad packets:in 0out 0 IPv6 packets: in 0 out 0 input packets: blocked 22570422 passed 488309778 nomatch 146719580 counted 0 short 0 output packets: blocked 21885 passed 507034679 nomatch 160765161 counted 0 short 0 input packets logged: blocked 22570422 passed 0 output packets logged: blocked 0 passed 0 packets logged:input 0 output 0 log failures: input 12571655 output 0 fragment state(in): kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 fragment state(out):kept 0 lost 0 not fragmented 0 packet state(in): kept 14100 lost 2770255 packet state(out): kept 22966740 lost 8078847 ICMP replies: 0 TCP RSTs sent: 0 Invalid source(in): 0 Result cache hits(in): 17487490(out): 21607481 IN Pullups succeeded: 9 failed: 0 OUT Pullups succeeded: 1092failed: 0 Fastroute successes:0 failures: 0 TCP cksum fails(in):0 (out): 0 IPF Ticks: 325071 Packet log flags set: (0) none [r...@wa-cpt-news ~]# cat /etc/ipf.rules ### ### Globals ### block in log quick all with frags # TCP Fragments block in log quick all with short # Short Fragments block in log quick all with ipopts # Invalid IP Options ### ### Loopback Interface ### pass in quick on lo0 from any to 127.0.0.0/8 pass out quick on lo0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any ### ## em0 - Public NIC ### # em0 - Outbound Traffic pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.a to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.21 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from a.a.a.22 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.23 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.24 to any keep state pass out quick on em0 from x.x.x.59.30 to any keep state pass in quick on em0 from 196.220.59.0/27 to a.a.a.a # Internal Network Traffic pass in quick on em0 proto icmp from any to a.a.a.a keep state # ICMP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to a.a.a.a port = 22 flags S keep state # SSH (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from any port = 53 to a.a.a.a # DNS (Responces) pass in quick on em0 proto udp from any port = 53 to a.a.a.a # DNS (Responces) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to a.a.a.a port = 80 # HTTP (Office Only) pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.185.0.0/16 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.211.26.0/24 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.0/19 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.238/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119# NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.32.228/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119# NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.63.33/32 to a.a.a.a port = 119 # NNTP pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from x.220.42.29/32 to
some ftp mirrors is wrong or inconsistently
Hello maillist
Some ftp servers from official ftp mirrors
( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html)
is incorrect or out of sync.
For example, test scripts ( require ftp/lftp ) says that only 90 from 167 ;)
have 8.0-RC1.iso
--
#!/bin/sh
cd /tmp
fetch
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html
SITE=`egrep -E (^target) /tmp/mirrors-ftp.html |tr|awk {'printf
$2\n'}`
for HST in ${SITE}; do
echo $HST
lftp -e ls; quit ${HST}ISO-IMAGES-amd64/8.0/
done
--
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Re: WD External Disc Drive
Hi Polytropon, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Thanks for your comment. disk began life as the American spelling (probably older English, copied from Greek) and disc was the English (UK, Australia, probably South Africa and other places). Here, in Australia, I am used to disc, but I take your point and agree that the two spellings most likely have their particular usages. In the fullness of time I suspect that the scheme you outline will become widely accepted. There's other instances of particular preferences in spelling in Australian English vis a vis American - for example, recognize versus recognise. As others have pointed out, the English language is a bit of a mongrel :-) Thanks for your comments too, about use of the FAT32 file system. I had thought about that, but the NTFS seemed to be a bit more universal - I'm not sure that FAT file systems are recognised by default on Macs (for example). Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Happy FreeBSD user since 2.2. Cheers, Rob Hurle -- - Rob Hurle ANU, College of Asia and the Pacific School of Culture, History and Language e-mail: rob1...@gmail.com Telephone (ANU): +61 2 6125 3169 Mobile (in VN): +84 948 243 538 (Currently in Australia) Mobile (in OZ): +61 417 293 603 (Currently in Australia) - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. Disk: disk pack, hard disk, disk drive Disc: optical disc, magneto-optical disc, disc drive Um, I don't want to get into spelling flames but from where I'm sitting (the UK) disk is the American English spelling and disc is the British English spelling of the same word which means in general a flat thin round thing and in computing a (usually) spinning flat thin round thing used for non-volatile storage. The distinction you make is one I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly 40 years. I think it's better to simply qualify dis[ck] with an adjective to disambiguate as necessary and accept that the US had a spelling reform that the UK didn't so both forms are valid and interchangeable. See also: program v. programme, colour v. color, etc. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
Rob Hurle wrote: Thanks for your comments too, about use of the FAT32 file system. I had thought about that, but the NTFS seemed to be a bit more universal - I'm not sure that FAT file systems are recognised by default on Macs (for example). FAT (and almost to the same extent, FAT32) are widely recognizable: FreeBSD, Windows, Linux, OS X. The most important limitation though is maximum file size (=4GB). Depending on your usage, FAT32 may or may not be appropriate because of this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:37:50 +1100, Rob Hurle rob1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comment. disk began life as the American spelling (probably older English, copied from Greek) and disc was the English (UK, Australia, probably South Africa and other places). Here, in Australia, I am used to disc, but I take your point and agree that the two spellings most likely have their particular usages. In the fullness of time I suspect that the scheme you outline will become widely accepted. There's other instances of particular preferences in spelling in Australian English vis a vis American - for example, recognize versus recognise. As others have pointed out, the English language is a bit of a mongrel :-) Wow, that's interesting to know. From my IT career, I always read disks, not discs (in its meaning as optical discs when they started to exist in the 80s). The differentiation disk vs. disc started at this time and is very common today to distinguish optical media from magnetic media. Magneto-optical media is called MO disc though. :-) Thanks for your comments too, about use of the FAT32 file system. I had thought about that, but the NTFS seemed to be a bit more universal - I'm not sure that FAT file systems are recognised by default on Macs (for example). I always thought FAT is one of the most universal file systems (at least when Windows is involved); if it's not, I do consider tar the most universal file system (allthough it is no file system in particular). It works on all UNIX flavours I encountered, as well as on Mac OS. The only thing you need is a tar program that reads from or writes to the preferred media. Of course, Windows lacks such a program. Example. On Linux # tar cvf /dev/fd0.h1440 sourcefile(s) On Sun Solaris: # tar xvf /dev/rfd0 It works on IRIX, HP-UX and other UNIXes, too, and it works with every media (floppy, CD, DVD, USB stick, external hard disk, MO disc etc.). The only thing you have to grant access to is the device (usually via its device file). As for your intended use, well, try FAT. Sadly, my iBook doesn't work yet, so I can't check. In MICROS~1 land, FAT is recognized among all the Windows, and r/w support is fine on FreeBSD. Mac OS X should be able to use it, too. Rob Hurle ANU, College of Asia and the Pacific School of Culture, History and Language That explains everything. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:45 +, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: The distinction you make is one I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly 40 years. This specific differentiation is common at least in Germany. We handle foreign words quite differently, for example we call a mobile phone a Handy. :-) The FreeBSD handbook is a good example. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-start.html Here, disk seems to refer to hard disks, while disc refers to exchangable media. Both words can be found in the document. I think it's better to simply qualify dis[ck] with an adjective to disambiguate as necessary and accept that the US had a spelling reform that the UK didn't so both forms are valid and interchangeable. In most cases, it is done that way, e. g. floppy disk or hard disk. See also: program v. programme, colour v. color, etc. :-) I see that you are working in a computor centre. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can't make www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
On Mon 26.Oct'09 at 13:17:56 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: The port www/linux-f10-flashplugin needs linux -f10- ports. The latter are defaults for FreeBSD-8.x and later. You can use them at 7.2 (7.2-STABLE is preferred). For more unformation take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING 20090401: AFFECTS: users of linux Fedora 8 infrastructure ports (it deals with non default f8 ports, f10 are the same with f10 value). HTH Please, keep in mind that those ports are not defaults for 7.x. Hi, thanks for the reply. I worked out what was causing the problem in the end. (incidentally, i already had made sure the linux-f10-base was installed.) I had stupidly left whitespace after the = sign in the file: /etc/sysctl.conf: OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT =f10 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORT =f10 correcting that did the trick and its all working great. Thanks again, though. Jamie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: auto format and partion
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:23:35 +1000 da...@hushmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 got the latest version of your os for 64 bit systems from osdisc.com do you think you could throw in an auto install feauture that like every other os on the market i dropped out of devry and i still cant figure out what the installer is asking me to do. Perhaps you need to read the handbook found at freebsd.org or you can try pcbsd at http://www.pcbsd.org/ or you can wait until some one creates an auto install feature. That could be a very long time and you would be missing out on the best OS available. HTH Robert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
bind configuration issues
Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. feel free to answer with links or search keywords. Also, as this question isn't exactly a FreeBSD question, is there a better list for this? Thanks Ray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)
On 10/26/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:45 +, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: The distinction you make is one I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly 40 years. Same here. I've always been told they were completely interchangeable. I do recall that when floppy drives appeared for personal computers in the late '70s and early '80s, there was some argument about the correct spelling. The claim was that disc was correct, and that some ignorant hobbyist at a new computer company had misspelled it as disk and it stuck. But IBM used the disk spelling long before that, so I don't think that was really what happened. Looking in the OED, I find that disk was the original spelling, and in the late 1800s disc became popular, then around 1950 disk started regaining popularity, largely in the computer industry. - Bob -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. You can't set up BIND to control multilink aggregation and failover; that's not what it does. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. You can't set up BIND to control multilink aggregation and failover; that's not what it does. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. Yes, In an ideal world I would do this. The two machines would also be in separate buildings/cities/provinces/countries/planets (pick your level of paranoia) ;) However, reducing single points of failure is an improvement, even if I can't eliminate them. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. You can't set up BIND to control multilink aggregation and failover; that's not what it does. Regards, -- freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -Chuck Thanks for the replies. Chuck, thanks for the keywords to search. Some of what I'm finding looks like a solution for companies a lot bigger than me, but I'll keep looking. Gary, can you give me any clues about how to do it with just DNS? Yes, I do realize that this leaves single points of failure, but at least they would be points that I could do something about if necessary. Thanks again, Ray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)
2009/10/26 Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com: On 10/26/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:45 +, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: The distinction you make is one I've not come across before, and I've worked with computers for nearly 40 years. Same here. I've always been told they were completely interchangeable. I do recall that when floppy drives appeared for personal computers in the late '70s and early '80s, there was some argument about the correct spelling. The claim was that disc was correct, and that some ignorant hobbyist at a new computer company had misspelled it as disk and it stuck. But IBM used the disk spelling long before that, so I don't think that was really what happened. Looking in the OED, I find that disk was the original spelling, and in the late 1800s disc became popular, then around 1950 disk started regaining popularity, largely in the computer industry. - Bob -- -- Bob Johnson fbsdli...@gmail.com I have always considered hard disk, floppy diskette, and compact disc (and digital versatile disc) to be the terminology; but then again the official British spelling is disc, whereas AFAICR the US spelling is disk. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FW: DNS Question
2009/10/23 Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com -- Original Message -- From: krad kra...@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:56:40 +0100 2009/10/23 Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:30:08 -0400 From: dave.l...@pixelhammer.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS Question Good morning. I have been asked by my co-workers and sales why I always create a A record for new domains we host instead of a CNAME. The issue I run into lately with some domains is that a client has a website with a industry host such as frank.relator.com and he wants to have DNS point www.frank.com to frank.relator.com with a CNAME. The client does not want an A record for frank.com. Somewhere, in a class far far away, I was taught a DNS zone had to have a A record to function properly. I can't seem to locate anything in the RFCs. Am I wrong? I think you are confusing basics of DNS records. you are partially correct in that a DNS zone needs an initial A record to be able to translate a name to an IP, but there is nothing wrong about setting up a CNAME to point to a record in a different zone instead. you just cannot do a zone that has a CNAME only that does not at some point to a valid A record. CNAMEs are forwarders only whereas A records are actual lookups. for proper way to set this up The A record would be assigned for the main name that you want to associate to an IP address. The CNAME record just relates a different name to that original name. this allows you to change the IP address of the server and only have to update the original A record instead of every DNS record for that server. for small number of vhosts, this would not really be an issue, but imagine if you were hosting a couple hundred vhosts from a single IP and then had to change that IP because you switched your ISP. It would take you a LONG time to update them if they were all A records, but only a couple of seconds if you had it properly set up as CNAME's www.bobshosting.comA 192.168.0.1 www.vhost1.com CNAME www.bobshosting.com. www.vhost2.com CNAME www.bobshosting.com. www.vhost3.com CNAME www.bobshosting.com. www.vhost4.com CNAME www.bobshosting.com. -Sean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I try to use CNAMES as much as possible, for one very good reason. If say I have web server with 1000 vhost on it. I have one A record for the server and all the cnames point at that A record. Now i need to change the ip of the server. I update the A record and add a reverse record and im done. IF I had done it your way with all A records I would now have to go and edit another 1000 records. Even worse if some of these domains are not under my control I have to go and liaise with customers, or other third parties, and it becomes a complete mess. The chances of me convincing them all and coordinated it correctly are minimal 8( domains sharing records is better handled by $INCLUDE $INCLUDE /path/db.ttl, which contains $TTL 6h $INCLUDE /path/db.ns, which contains @ ns ns1.domain.tld. @ ns ns2.domain.tld. $INCLUDE /path/db.www, which contains @ a ip.ad.re.ss www a ip.ad.re.ss etc. Changing an include file changes all the zone files that include it, giving enormous leverage, while removing the extra query required to resolve a CNAME to canonical. Len ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org a few massive assumptions here I feel. 1. all the domains are controlled by said person 2. Are on the same server 3. Fits with the relevent provisioning system, 4. Is probably are using bind ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: bind configuration issues
I'm not intimate with bind, or anything/one actually - but that's another story... Anyway, the gist is you need to ping some public hosts from your dns server (or another system I guess, but easier if on the dns server). One destination host would be reachable through one connection, and the other of course would only be reachable through the alternate connection. Maybe use the primary DNS servers each upstream ISP provides to you? Anyway, if both pings are OK, then your DNS server does round-robin for the host(s) in question. If one ping fails, then you stop handing out that IP. You can for the route taken within ping itself, or use static host(/32) routes, etc. Sounds simple huh? It kinda is, and LONG ago I had a shell script to do just this, but it's gone - and maybe bind 9+ has some sort of this functionality available to you embedded in the bind code? Don't know. Even if you have to write your own script to update your dns records based on your monitoring process it's not that hard even for a scripting novice such as myself! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ray Still Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. Yes, In an ideal world I would do this. The two machines would also be in separate buildings/cities/provinces/countries/planets (pick your level of paranoia) ;) However, reducing single points of failure is an improvement, even if I can't eliminate them. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. You can't set up BIND to control multilink aggregation and failover; that's not what it does. Regards, -- freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -Chuck Thanks for the replies. Chuck, thanks for the keywords to search. Some of what I'm finding looks like a solution for companies a lot bigger than me, but I'll keep looking. Gary, can you give me any clues about how to do it with just DNS? Yes, I do realize that this leaves single points of failure, but at least they would be points that I could do something about if necessary. Thanks again, Ray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext
Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Are you sure about that? AFAIK, all system reports are sent with the sendmail binary. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
In response to Yuri y...@rawbw.com: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Quite a lot. In fact, anyone who properly installs FreeBSD as a server. Why isn't it moved to ports? Because an MTA has traditionally been part of a POSIX system. Besides, if it's not there, how are you going to send mail from things like cron? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FW: DNS Question
krad wrote: a few massive assumptions here I feel. 1. all the domains are controlled by said person 2. Are on the same server 3. Fits with the relevent provisioning system, 4. Is probably are using bind You betcha, though all good information. 1. Nope, the CNAME is not controlled by me. 2. Nope, the CNAMEd sites are on another provider. 3. Yes, it is possible by our support system. 4. Nope, no bind here. I have been reading the info everyone posted, and I configured a domain as I was asked. Since the reconfigured domain did no harm to my servers, I am inclined to let them do it. If it is the right thing to do, or the proper thing to do, seems to matter little those in the big offices. If they can find nowhere on the internet where it says THOU SHALL NOT DO this, they believe this is industry standard. So WTH, I'll do it, so long as it doesn't cause my pager to go beep in the night. I am too tired of arguing to keep it up anymore. Thanks, DAve -- Posterity, you will know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that ever I took half the pains to preserve it. John Quincy Adams http://appleseedinfo.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:29:27 -0700, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? This questions comes up very often. You can find lots of reasons in one of the older threads about Sendmail, e.g. at: http://groups.google.com/group/fa.freebsd.stable/msg/166040f2d75547bc http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.chat/msg/a9e850da1dba3fc2 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/39f14b08bb752ca7 http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.current/msg/3b73a04c9f5e6a19 Sendmail is _already_ part of the ports/ BTW, and it supports many knobs to build custom versions of Sendmail with or without IPv6, milter, NIS, SASL, TLS or LDAP support, and so on: keram...@kobe:/usr/ports/mail$ more sendmail/Makefile [...] # Options to define Features: # SENDMAIL_WITHOUT_IPV6=yes # SENDMAIL_WITHOUT_MILTER=yes # SENDMAIL_WITHOUT_NIS=yes [...] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: flashplugin
2009/10/25 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk % pkg_info -r linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32 Information for linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32: Depends on: Dependency: linux_base-f10-10_2 Dependency: linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g Dependency: linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Dependency: linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 Dependency: linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 Dependency: linux-f10-curl-7.19.4_4 Dependency: linux-f10-nspr-4.7.4 Dependency: linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 Dependency: linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 Why the hell the Flash plugin (for Linux) needs openldap and sqlite I do not know. SASL too for that matter. I must admit I gave up ever getting Flash to work RELIABLY on FreeBSD a long time ago. It's just too hard, too much work, and not worth the misery of installing heaps of crud just to get a flipping browser plugin working unreliably. Cheers, Matthew MF. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: bind configuration issues
I googled dns round robin failover and there are many hits. One interesting one is: http://forums.devshed.com/dns-36/ha-using-round-robinworking-368800.html It suggests well written apps / resolvers will try to use all ip's returned by the query starting with the preferred one, not JUST the preferred one. Which means, just by enabling round robin with multiple A records, you MAY get some level of HA/Failover by default. Cool, BUT, I wouldn't bet my life on it. I'd still have something that could tweak your DNS records based on packet loss, latency, etc. What if your circuit is up, but is degraded by loss, latency (load induced or otherwise), etc. As you mentioned, something is better than nothing - so start simple and go from there! HTH! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:07 PM To: Ray Still; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: bind configuration issues I'm not intimate with bind, or anything/one actually - but that's another story... Anyway, the gist is you need to ping some public hosts from your dns server (or another system I guess, but easier if on the dns server). One destination host would be reachable through one connection, and the other of course would only be reachable through the alternate connection. Maybe use the primary DNS servers each upstream ISP provides to you? Anyway, if both pings are OK, then your DNS server does round-robin for the host(s) in question. If one ping fails, then you stop handing out that IP. You can for the route taken within ping itself, or use static host(/32) routes, etc. Sounds simple huh? It kinda is, and LONG ago I had a shell script to do just this, but it's gone - and maybe bind 9+ has some sort of this functionality available to you embedded in the bind code? Don't know. Even if you have to write your own script to update your dns records based on your monitoring process it's not that hard even for a scripting novice such as myself! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ray Still Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. Yes, In an ideal world I would do this. The two machines would also be in separate buildings/cities/provinces/countries/planets (pick your level of paranoia) ;) However, reducing single points of failure is an improvement, even if I can't eliminate them. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and 2) if one goes down, the other keeps working. I had a few ideas, but they all seem to have flaws. You can't set up BIND to control multilink aggregation and failover; that's not what it does. Regards, -- freebsd-questions@freebsd.org -Chuck Thanks for the replies. Chuck, thanks for the keywords to search. Some of what I'm finding looks like a solution for companies a lot bigger than me, but I'll keep looking. Gary, can you give me any clues about how to do it with just DNS? Yes, I do realize that this leaves single points of failure, but at least they would be points that I could do something about if necessary.
Re: configuring X on the Presario with the 8200M driver
Henry Olyer wrote: I need more information to make this work. help, please. And thank you! On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.comwrote: Jules Gilbert wrote: now i got up (by doing the startx as root,) but i dont' have a working mouse. when I am in screen mode (normal, -- with no X.) when I move the mouse, I can see the 'arrow' pointer move just fine. So... If you are running hald you probably need option AutoAddDevicesoff option AllowEmptyInput off in the ServerFlags section in xorg.conf Or you can configure hal to recognise them - there are various threads in the archives i believe. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I got it all from the handbook and the mailing list archives. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=106398+109934+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20091011.freebsd-questions http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)
Chris Rees wrote: I have always considered hard disk, floppy diskette, and compact disc (and digital versatile disc) to be the terminology; but then again the official British spelling is disc, whereas AFAICR the US spelling is disk. The official British spelling is whichever one of disc or disk takes your fancy at the time. Very few people actually care one way or the other. Cheers Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: can't make www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
Jamie Griffin wrote: On Mon 26.Oct'09 at 13:17:56 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: The port www/linux-f10-flashplugin needs linux -f10- ports. The latter are defaults for FreeBSD-8.x and later. You can use them at 7.2 (7.2-STABLE is preferred). For more unformation take a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING 20090401: AFFECTS: users of linux Fedora 8 infrastructure ports (it deals with non default f8 ports, f10 are the same with f10 value). HTH Please, keep in mind that those ports are not defaults for 7.x. Hi, thanks for the reply. I worked out what was causing the problem in the end. (incidentally, i already had made sure the linux-f10-base was installed.) I had stupidly left whitespace after the = sign in the file: /etc/sysctl.conf: OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT =f10 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORT =f10 correcting that did the trick and its all working great. Thanks again, though. Jamie Just in case someone looks here and not in UPDATING referred above, they go in /etc/make.conf but you probably meant that :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can't make www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
Just in case someone looks here and not in UPDATING referred above, they go in /etc/make.conf but you probably meant that :) Chris Hi chris oops, yes that is what meant. sorry. J ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[freebsd-questions] in subject line
Hi Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into different 'folders' I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings to add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as undesirable? Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line
Hi, Chris-- On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into different 'folders' I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings to add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as undesirable? It's a per-list option in Mailman, not a per-user option. In order to filter list mail, you can key off of the List-Id: header instead Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:43:17 + Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: Hi Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into different 'folders' I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings to add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as undesirable? Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I filter my incoming msgs by the to field. So no need for [ ] if you filter by to or list-id or cc or all together. I`m using Sylpheed cheers Daniel -- [ The only reality is virtual ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. To recap, two pipes, one destination. I set up second DNS server. ns1.example.com at 70.65. (provider 1) ns2.example.com at 206.75(provider 2) A records for example.org on ns1 will give 70.65. on ns2 206.75 if provider one goes down, ns1 is gone, ns2 is still available, and so is the route to the sites. It's not the best solution, but it's better than what I have. Am I missing something that's going to come back and bite me in the butt? Thanks, Ray On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I googled dns round robin failover and there are many hits. One interesting one is: http://forums.devshed.com/dns-36/ha-using-round-robinworking-368800.html It suggests well written apps / resolvers will try to use all ip's returned by the query starting with the preferred one, not JUST the preferred one. Which means, just by enabling round robin with multiple A records, you MAY get some level of HA/Failover by default. Cool, BUT, I wouldn't bet my life on it. I'd still have something that could tweak your DNS records based on packet loss, latency, etc. What if your circuit is up, but is degraded by loss, latency (load induced or otherwise), etc. As you mentioned, something is better than nothing - so start simple and go from there! HTH! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:07 PM To: Ray Still; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: bind configuration issues I'm not intimate with bind, or anything/one actually - but that's another story... Anyway, the gist is you need to ping some public hosts from your dns server (or another system I guess, but easier if on the dns server). One destination host would be reachable through one connection, and the other of course would only be reachable through the alternate connection. Maybe use the primary DNS servers each upstream ISP provides to you? Anyway, if both pings are OK, then your DNS server does round-robin for the host(s) in question. If one ping fails, then you stop handing out that IP. You can for the route taken within ping itself, or use static host(/32) routes, etc. Sounds simple huh? It kinda is, and LONG ago I had a shell script to do just this, but it's gone - and maybe bind 9+ has some sort of this functionality available to you embedded in the bind code? Don't know. Even if you have to write your own script to update your dns records based on your monitoring process it's not that hard even for a scripting novice such as myself! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ray Still Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. Yes, In an ideal world I would do this. The two machines would also be in separate buildings/cities/provinces/countries/planets (pick your level of paranoia) ;) However, reducing single points of failure is an improvement, even if I can't eliminate them. How do I set up bind so that 1) bandwidth is shared between the two connections, and
Re: bind configuration issues
Yes, your missing something. I don't think your solution will work very well. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 18:13:47 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. To recap, two pipes, one destination. I set up second DNS server. ns1.example.com at 70.65. (provider 1) ns2.example.com at 206.75(provider 2) A records for example.org on ns1 will give 70.65. on ns2 206.75 if provider one goes down, ns1 is gone, ns2 is still available, and so is the route to the sites. It's not the best solution, but it's better than what I have. Am I missing something that's going to come back and bite me in the butt? Thanks, Ray On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I googled dns round robin failover and there are many hits. One interesting one is: http://forums.devshed.com/dns-36/ha-using-round-robinworking-368800.html It suggests well written apps / resolvers will try to use all ip's returned by the query starting with the preferred one, not JUST the preferred one. Which means, just by enabling round robin with multiple A records, you MAY get some level of HA/Failover by default. Cool, BUT, I wouldn't bet my life on it. I'd still have something that could tweak your DNS records based on packet loss, latency, etc. What if your circuit is up, but is degraded by loss, latency (load induced or otherwise), etc. As you mentioned, something is better than nothing - so start simple and go from there! HTH! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:07 PM To: Ray Still; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: bind configuration issues I'm not intimate with bind, or anything/one actually - but that's another story... Anyway, the gist is you need to ping some public hosts from your dns server (or another system I guess, but easier if on the dns server). One destination host would be reachable through one connection, and the other of course would only be reachable through the alternate connection. Maybe use the primary DNS servers each upstream ISP provides to you? Anyway, if both pings are OK, then your DNS server does round-robin for the host(s) in question. If one ping fails, then you stop handing out that IP. You can for the route taken within ping itself, or use static host(/32) routes, etc. Sounds simple huh? It kinda is, and LONG ago I had a shell script to do just this, but it's gone - and maybe bind 9+ has some sort of this functionality available to you embedded in the bind code? Don't know. Even if you have to write your own script to update your dns records based on your monitoring process it's not that hard even for a scripting novice such as myself! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ray Still Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different router (Linksys RV082) with 2 static ip address. In order to have redundancy, you need to have two real, separate machines, each of which is running BIND, each of which is on a separate routable IP. This is an orthogonal issue to setting up multiple Internet connections. Yes, In an ideal world I would do
Re: bind configuration issues
How will the client side resolvers know what dns server to use to resolve example.com? - Original Message - From: Gary Gatten To: 'rstil...@gmail.com' rstil...@gmail.com; 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 18:24:38 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues Yes, your missing something. I don't think your solution will work very well. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 18:13:47 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. To recap, two pipes, one destination. I set up second DNS server. ns1.example.com at 70.65. (provider 1) ns2.example.com at 206.75(provider 2) A records for example.org on ns1 will give 70.65. on ns2 206.75 if provider one goes down, ns1 is gone, ns2 is still available, and so is the route to the sites. It's not the best solution, but it's better than what I have. Am I missing something that's going to come back and bite me in the butt? Thanks, Ray On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I googled dns round robin failover and there are many hits. One interesting one is: http://forums.devshed.com/dns-36/ha-using-round-robinworking-368800.html It suggests well written apps / resolvers will try to use all ip's returned by the query starting with the preferred one, not JUST the preferred one. Which means, just by enabling round robin with multiple A records, you MAY get some level of HA/Failover by default. Cool, BUT, I wouldn't bet my life on it. I'd still have something that could tweak your DNS records based on packet loss, latency, etc. What if your circuit is up, but is degraded by loss, latency (load induced or otherwise), etc. As you mentioned, something is better than nothing - so start simple and go from there! HTH! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:07 PM To: Ray Still; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: bind configuration issues I'm not intimate with bind, or anything/one actually - but that's another story... Anyway, the gist is you need to ping some public hosts from your dns server (or another system I guess, but easier if on the dns server). One destination host would be reachable through one connection, and the other of course would only be reachable through the alternate connection. Maybe use the primary DNS servers each upstream ISP provides to you? Anyway, if both pings are OK, then your DNS server does round-robin for the host(s) in question. If one ping fails, then you stop handing out that IP. You can for the route taken within ping itself, or use static host(/32) routes, etc. Sounds simple huh? It kinda is, and LONG ago I had a shell script to do just this, but it's gone - and maybe bind 9+ has some sort of this functionality available to you embedded in the bind code? Don't know. Even if you have to write your own script to update your dns records based on your monitoring process it's not that hard even for a scripting novice such as myself! G -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ray Still Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: You certainly don't need BGP for this, the DNS thing will work, but will be a bit kludgy and certainly not as ... responsive to failures - a la query caching, TTL's and what not. - Original Message - From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org To: Ray Still rstil...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon Oct 26 12:50:56 2009 Subject: Re: bind configuration issues On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Ray Still wrote: Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. The two issues normally aren't related. If both connections are from the same provider, talk to them about multilink PPP; if they are from different providers, you need to look into multihoming and getting your own AS #. two different providers. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers registered, but they both point to the same ip address an the same machine. (Yes, I should have my fingers slapped.) Desired setup same machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. different
Re: flashplugin
Thank you very much Herbert, I appreciate your input. As I wrote in my original query, I had auccessfully installed the lilnux-flashplugin9 on FreeBSD 7.2 both on a 64 bit portable _ Acer Travelmate 4400 - and on a couple of disks on the same machine (i386). I followed the instructions from http://crnl.org/blog/2008/11/01/flash-9-for-freebsd-71#comment-form upgrade FreeBSD. Once that's done the rest is straight forward. Step 1: Enable Linux compatibility and linprocfs Add linux_enable=YES to /etc/rc.conf. Add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf. Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf. Add this line to /etc/fstab: linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Then run these commands: mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc mount /usr/compat/linux/proc /etc/rc.d/abi start /etc/rc.d/sysctl start Step 2: Update ports and install all the needed software You will now need to install the following ports and their dependencies: cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 make install clean cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9 make install clean cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper make install clean Follow the nspluginwrapper instructions to enable all available plugins: # nspluginwrapper -v -a -i Auto-install plugins from /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins Looking for plugins in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins Auto-install plugins from /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin Looking for plugins in /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin Install plugin /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so into /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Auto-install plugins from /root/.mozilla/plugins Looking for plugins in /root/.mozilla/plugins Restart or open Firefox 3 and enter about:plugins into your address bar. You should see something like the following: And that's it! Open your favourite Flash site and all should work. If your browser doesn't register the Shockwave Flash plugin as pictured above, you might need to do a bit of extra work as I had to do on one of my machines: cd /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins ln -s /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so npwrapper.libflashplayer.so I'm not sure why one of my machines needed this, but it might happen to you so this is just a heads up. Update: I have learned that the change with the plugin directory is due to a change in FreeBSD's Firefox 3 port. If you're running port version 3.0.1_1 or later you will need to use the new plugin directory as shown above. CVS change history can be seen here. Enjoy! Worked without a problem. But while learning how to dump/restore to make clones, I cannot imagine what happened, but I found that the machines now had lilnux-fc4 distribution. This did not work. I have tried to install all the versions of linux, except the f10, and all versions of flashplayer 0 7, 9 and even 10 ... no way will it work...so I just have to abandon it an accept the fact that Adobe sucks just as much as MushWindows. I have also tried following the instructions in the manual and have lost a tremendous lot of time... really, this is the kind of shit that we just don't need ... why do we tolerate the likes of Adobe and MS? (Rhetorical question) Thanks, anyway. herbert langhans wrote: I have some instructions on http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl/af/index.html - not updated for a while, but it might be some useful input. Cheers herb langhans On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 07:56:58PM -0400, PJ wrote: Is there any definitive install guide for flashplugin. I was able to install it on a 7.2 64bit machine and then on an i386 but somehow it has morphed into god-knows-what and no longer works. I thought I had installed it with linux-f8 emulations but I found the linux-f4 on the machine... so I don't know what is going on. Now, trying to reinstall under linux-f8 and flashplugin9 does not work... Adobe seems to be toally unreliable as to what they are doing with their software; at least from what I can see about the problems users are having with their products. So, the question - what is the latest method to get the flashplugin to work - what linux emulation, whick version of flashplugin... stumble, bumble and mumble ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: flashplugin
Matthew Seaman wrote: PJ wrote: Is there any definitive install guide for flashplugin. I was able to install it on a 7.2 64bit machine and then on an i386 but somehow it has morphed into god-knows-what and no longer works. This is what I did for a 7.2 box. Note that there are compatibility issues between new versions of Linux emulation and older versions of FreeBSD, so don't expect this to work with anything older. * Make a note of all the linux-emulated software you have installed for later reference: # pkg_info -orx linux linux-stuff We save the package origins in particular, because this procedure will result in a name change for most linux packages. * Delete everything linux related # pkg_delete -rx linux * Check and clean out /compat/linux -- there shouldn't be any interesting files left in this directory after the above step. As I recall, when I did this, there was a ldconfig.hints file (which would be regenerated on demand), and some Acrobat related stuff under /compat/linux/home/matthew which I didn't care about, and which shouldn't have been there anyhow. # cd /compat/linux # find . -type f -ls # rm -rf * * Change the default Linux kernel version for emulation: # sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 Also add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf so it gets reset on reboots. * Tell the ports system we want to use Fedora-10 as the Linux base by adding OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT= f10 OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS= f10 to /etc/make.conf. * Now install www/linux-f10-flashplugin10 from ports -- this should have all of the following as dependencies (modulo any version updates that may have happened since writing this): % pkg_info -r linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32 Information for linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32: Depends on: Dependency: linux_base-f10-10_2 Dependency: linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g Dependency: linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Dependency: linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 Dependency: linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 Dependency: linux-f10-curl-7.19.4_4 Dependency: linux-f10-nspr-4.7.4 Dependency: linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 Dependency: linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 if that isn't the case and you aren't getting the f10 flavour of those ports, double check everything you've done so far for errors, and try again from the top. * Add nspluginwrapper to enable Firefox to load the flash add-on: # portinstall www/nspluginwrapper (This has a dependency list as long as your arm, so it might take some time...) Following the install instructions for the nspluginwrapper package (which you can redisplay by pkg_info -Dx nspluginwrapper) install whatever globally available plugins there are by running this as root: # nspluginwrapper -v -a -i This puts plugins into /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ which Firefox should read. Alternatively, install the plugins locally to your own user account by running that command under your own UID: % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i * Finally, fire up Firefox and check that it has loaded the flash plugin by typing 'about:plugins' into the URL bar. Find a site with flash content[*], and enjoy. * Check the list you made at the first step, and reinstall any other linux applications you want. So far I've found flash10 under Fedora10 to be pretty stable and inoffensive on FreeBSD 7.2. You even get the sound track on Flash movies. However I'm still running Firefox with xpi-flashblock-1.5.11.2 and xpi-noscript-1.9.3.3 on general principles Adobe Acrobat isn't working, but I think that's more to do with the map_at_zero stuff introduced in the last security advisory. Cheers, Matthew [*] I think there are one or two flash based things at YouTube.com Much appreciated, Matthew. I will give it a shot... maybe I should have tried to clean things out earlier... I was just too-dumb-lazy and din't know the shortcuts you offer above. Will let you know... but it may take some time as I have to catch up with lost time energy. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: flashplugin
Freminlins wrote: 2009/10/25 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk % pkg_info -r linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32 Information for linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r32: Depends on: Dependency: linux_base-f10-10_2 Dependency: linux-f10-openssl-0.9.8g Dependency: linux-f10-openldap-2.4.12_1 Dependency: linux-f10-libssh2-0.18 Dependency: linux-f10-cyrus-sasl2-2.1.22 Dependency: linux-f10-curl-7.19.4_4 Dependency: linux-f10-nspr-4.7.4 Dependency: linux-f10-sqlite3-3.5.9_1 Dependency: linux-f10-nss-3.12.2.0 Why the hell the Flash plugin (for Linux) needs openldap and sqlite I do not know. SASL too for that matter. I must admit I gave up ever getting Flash to work RELIABLY on FreeBSD a long time ago. It's just too hard, too much work, and not worth the misery of installing heaps of crud just to get a flipping browser plugin working unreliably. I haven't tried your last suggestion yet... but it will be the last... I'm only wanted to be able to use it for my own development stuff - I have to time for the youtubes and mindless twitterings. Fortunately, as much as I hate MS, flash does work on it. But adobe and ms muck up the system so that it lumbers along like a humpty-Dumpty overstuffed S-car-go! ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
Ray Still wrote: Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. imho, your thought-process is not nuts. I can see what you are trying to do, so kudos given for trying to work it out with what you have. To recap, two pipes, one destination. I set up second DNS server. ns1.example.com at 70.65. (provider 1) ns2.example.com at 206.75(provider 2) A records for example.org on ns1 will give 70.65. on ns2 206.75 if provider one goes down, ns1 is gone, ns2 is still available, and so is the route to the sites. Note: I haven't followed the entire thread... Remember that no matter where your name servers are located, they both will hold the same information (if they don't, then shame on you, as you just broke scalability). This means that other caching servers all over the 'net may have either entry. Some ISP's name servers will cache records even longer than what your TTL is set to without trying to re-check (shame on them). Hence, you can never count on using DNS naming as a tactic for redundancy. It's not the best solution, but it's better than what I have. If I understand your conundrum properly (one server with an internal IP, with NAT in front of it, port-forwarded back aliased from two separate ISP public IPs), then, at minimum, here's how you can essentially 'halve' the damage: - set up your DNS servers in a proper master/slave configuration - configure your 'A' records in a round-robin setup. I'll assume your zone is ibctech.ca, and that your $TTL is 360: www IN A 208.70.104.210 www IN A 208.70.104.211 (yes, I know 360 puts pressure on everyone else, but this is for example purposes). If I know I will need to make DNS changes in advance for a domain, I'll set the TTL to 360 (secs) long before the changes need to be made. Then, I can make the changes, and if caching resolvers are Doing The Right Thing, they will pick up these changes after five minutes. If you have a domain that is high-traffic, don't do this. I'd like to emphasize that a low ttl puts pressure on every DNS caching server on the Internet that must look up information on your domain. With that said, with a 5 min ttl, in the event of an outage, you can hop onto your authoritative DNS server, switch BOTH A records to point to the working IP, and the rest of the 'net 'should' be able to see those changes within five minutes (again, if they obey your ttl). Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
Ray Still wrote: Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. In addition to my other post: I like your mentality of trying to do whatever you can to create redundancy. I've often tried to think of ways to use DNS to make things redundant and resilient. Keep up trying new ways to stretch things in ways people may not have expected. You never know what you may stumble across one day. Cheers, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?
How many people actually use it? Very few. Out of the 12 or 15 servers I run, only one do not use stock sendmail: the mail server. So one out of twelve is rather quite a lot... Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
howto use https in favour of http
hi there, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. any advice on how to do this? cheers. alex ps: i'm running FreeBSD otaku 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #7 r198330M: Thu Oct 22 18:03:45 CEST 2009 r...@otaku:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARUNDEL i386 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Alexander Best wrote: hi there, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. It doesn't work that way. The 'hosts' file resolves a name to an IP address. I can see what you want to do here, but to get there, you must provide in your own words what it is you want exactly... Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. De3finitely not. man hosts to see the syntax and meaning of the /etc/hosts file. any advice on how to do this? I am not sure what you want to do. You want to install a web server that only serves https? then you configure your web server to only serve https, in Apache configuration you would only have a VirtualHost: permail.uni-muenster.de:443 and none with port 80. Best regards, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. De3finitely not. man hosts to see the syntax and meaning of the /etc/hosts file. any advice on how to do this? I am not sure what you want to do. You want to install a web server that only serves https? then you configure your web server to only serve https, in Apache configuration you would only have a VirtualHost: permail.uni-muenster.de:443 and none with port 80. Best regards, Olivier sorry if i didn't specify my problem in detail. i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version of that site is being loaded. i'd like freebsd to take care of this so even if the app is trying to access the non-ssl version it should in fact be redirected to the ssl version by freebsd. cheers. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Alex, i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version of that site is being loaded. i'd like freebsd to take care of this so even if the app is trying to access the non-ssl version it should in fact be redirected to the ssl version by freebsd. I think it is the responsibility of the person in charge of the server to decide whether non-ssl connections are allowed or not; and to redirect non-ssl connections to ssl ones when needed. That should never be a burden for the client. Now on your client side what you can do is: - set-up a firewall to forbid non-ssl connections to certain web sites: if you try a non-ssl connection, it will be refused; easy enough to set-up, but frustrating when you see that your connection is refused; - set-up a proxy/redirector to change your non-ssl connections to ssl one: certainly an heavier thing to set-up, but would work transparently; Good luck, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Alexander Best wrote: Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. De3finitely not. man hosts to see the syntax and meaning of the /etc/hosts file. any advice on how to do this? I am not sure what you want to do. You want to install a web server that only serves https? then you configure your web server to only serve https, in Apache configuration you would only have a VirtualHost: permail.uni-muenster.de:443 and none with port 80. Best regards, Olivier sorry if i didn't specify my problem in detail. i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version of that site is being loaded. i'd like freebsd to take care of this so even if the app is trying to access the non-ssl version it should in fact be redirected to the ssl version by freebsd. I thought that this is what you were originally after. FreeBSD, in itself, can't do this... much like Mac OS or Windows can't do this. Most applications such as Firefox can't even do this (inherently). If you are trying to enforce this as a personal/company policy, you will need to write a 'wrapper' around your application (lynx/firefox) to do this. Note that your example was :25-:443, which implied SMTP over SSL... Nonetheless, FreeBSD can't make these decisions inherently (thankfully). Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn Andrew Falanga requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: -- Jerry, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Andrew Accept invitation from Andrew Falanga http://www.linkedin.com/e/1o3bCy0npDqyzD3wjrAbLV0nLmqMr8R-MulSGyDnb3nr/blk/I1536239637_2/pmpxnSRJrSdvj4R5fnhv9ClRsDgZp6lQs6lzoQ5AomZIpn8_cBYTcPoVcP8ScPkNiiZyhm5js397biYRdPoMcP0OczwLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/ View invitation from Andrew Falanga http://www.linkedin.com/e/1o3bCy0npDqyzD3wjrAbLV0nLmqMr8R-MulSGyDnb3nr/blk/I1536239637_2/39vdPcSejcOdzcRckALqnpPbOYWrSlI/svi/ -- (c) 2009, LinkedIn Corporation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Lagg driver not working on HP Proliant
We just purchased an HP Proliant DL320 G6, a 1U server with two Broadcom NICs. When configured as standalone interfaces, the two NICs work fine. However, when configured as a failover lagg pair, we cannot assign an IP to the lagg0 interface. We are using the following entry in our rc.conf file: ifconfig_lagg0=laggproto failover laggport bge0 laggport bge1 dhcp This same setup works fine on our other 1U servers, the difference being that they have nVidia NICS instead of Broadcom (nfe instead of bge). Does anyone know if there is a driver patch for the Broadcom NICs that will solve this lagg issue? We are running a 7.0 system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
Steve Bertrand wrote: Alexander Best wrote: Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. [snip] i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version of that site is being loaded. i'd like freebsd to take care of this so even if the app is trying to access the non-ssl version it should in fact be redirected to the ssl version by freebsd. I thought that this is what you were originally after. FreeBSD, in itself, can't do this... much like Mac OS or Windows can't do this. Most applications such as Firefox can't even do this (inherently). If you are trying to enforce this as a personal/company policy, you will need to write a 'wrapper' around your application (lynx/firefox) to do this. Note that your example was :25-:443, which implied SMTP over SSL... Nonetheless, FreeBSD can't make these decisions inherently (thankfully). Steve I think the OP does not have a clear grasp on how the various protocols operate. Evidenced by confusing http with mail services. Yes, I know there is 'web mail', but even web based mail is still a web server. It is up to the server operator to configure the services on the server end of things. Whether its SMTP with SSL/TLS, HTTP/HTTPS, pop3 or imap with SSL, etc., all of these things are made to work at the server end. True enough a client may need to be configured to talk on port 995 for pop3/SSL or port 993 for IMAP/SSL but for the web a client shouldn't need to do anything. The web server operator configures which locations in his URI space should be served up on port 443, and the client's browser should automatically switch to HTTPS based upon this. The OP doesn't seem to understand that he doesn't need to make this happen on his end, at least as far as HTTP/HTTPS goes. If he is actually trying to configure a mail client to talk TLS or SSL to an SMTP server, then he needs to tell the email client software this. E.g., This connection requires encryption and whether it is SSL or TLS. Mail servers on port 25 do not use HTTP or HTTPS, but rather SMTP. So it seems as if he is just very confused. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: bind configuration issues
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Ray Still wrote: Ok, tell me just how nuts this idea is. imho, your thought-process is not nuts. I can see what you are trying to do, so kudos given for trying to work it out with what you have. To recap, two pipes, one destination. I set up second DNS server. ns1.example.com at 70.65. (provider 1) ns2.example.com at 206.75(provider 2) A records for example.org on ns1 will give 70.65. on ns2 206.75 if provider one goes down, ns1 is gone, ns2 is still available, and so is the route to the sites. Note: I haven't followed the entire thread... Remember that no matter where your name servers are located, they both will hold the same information (if they don't, then shame on you, as you just broke scalability). This means that other caching servers all over the 'net may have either entry. Some ISP's name servers will cache records even longer than what your TTL is set to without trying to re-check (shame on them). Hence, you can never count on using DNS naming as a tactic for redundancy. It's not the best solution, but it's better than what I have. If I understand your conundrum properly (one server with an internal IP, with NAT in front of it, port-forwarded back aliased from two separate ISP public IPs), then, at minimum, here's how you can essentially 'halve' the damage: - set up your DNS servers in a proper master/slave configuration - configure your 'A' records in a round-robin setup. I'll assume your zone is ibctech.ca, and that your $TTL is 360: www IN A 208.70.104.210 www IN A 208.70.104.211 (yes, I know 360 puts pressure on everyone else, but this is for example purposes). If I know I will need to make DNS changes in advance for a domain, I'll set the TTL to 360 (secs) long before the changes need to be made. Then, I can make the changes, and if caching resolvers are Doing The Right Thing, they will pick up these changes after five minutes. If you have a domain that is high-traffic, don't do this. I'd like to emphasize that a low ttl puts pressure on every DNS caching server on the Internet that must look up information on your domain. With that said, with a 5 min ttl, in the event of an outage, you can hop onto your authoritative DNS server, switch BOTH A records to point to the working IP, and the rest of the 'net 'should' be able to see those changes within five minutes (again, if they obey your ttl). Steve OK, after reading and re-reading and experimenting I think I get it. Thanks for your comments and patience. I will probably end up using something based on Gary's round robin suggestion. It may not provide 100% reliable failover, but it will help, and worst case, it will provide some bandwidth sharing. Thanks, Ray ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto use https in favour of http
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:29, alexbestms@ wrote: Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. unfortunately hosts doesn't seem to support this syntax. De3finitely not. man hosts to see the syntax and meaning of the /etc/hosts file. any advice on how to do this? I am not sure what you want to do. You want to install a web server that only serves https? then you configure your web server to only serve https, in Apache configuration you would only have a VirtualHost: permail.uni-muenster.de:443 and none with port 80. Best regards, Olivier sorry if i didn't specify my problem in detail. i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl version of that site is being loaded. i'd like freebsd to take care of this so even if the app is trying to access the non-ssl version it should in fact be redirected to the ssl version by freebsd. cheers. alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Add some shell aliases to your shells rc's. Bourne style shells: alias your_name=lynx https://sub.domain.tld/; Ill leave the c style shell syntax for you to figure out. Now as long as you can remember your_name then you shouldn't have to much of a problem. ;) Best regards, PC Pro Sch00lz -- ;; dataix.net!jhell 2048R/89D8547E 2009-09-30 ;; BSD since FreeBSD 4.2Linux since Slackware 2.1 ;; 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Re: WD External Disc Drive
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:39 pm, Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings and usage. My Australian (Macquarie) dictionary gives the spelling in all cases as disc but recognises disk as a chiefly US variant. My Conscise Oxford (English) dictionary simply gives the two spellings as alternatives but states that disk is the better. My Webster's (American) gives the two forms as alternatives without suggesting any preference. Of course different editions of the dictionaries may give slightly different slants but are most unlikely to actually contradict these possibly earlier views. Disk: disk pack, hard disk, disk drive Disc: optical disc, magneto-optical disc, disc drive In your special case, you can even say that your external hard disk shows up as a disc in Windows. It's correct. I know it may sound impolite (but it is not meant to be), but using the correct terminology is very important if you want to be understood correctly. I find your distinctions arbitrary and quite inappropriate; again not meaning to sound impolite. So, each to his/her own usage but please do not be critical of those of us not conforming to your arbirary conventions. Malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WD External Disc Drive
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:27 pm, Malcolm Kay wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:39 pm, Polytropon wrote: Hi Rob, just a little terminology note (from me, Mister Use-the-correct-words): If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings and usage. My Australian (Macquarie) dictionary gives the spelling in all cases as disc but recognises disk as a chiefly US variant. My Conscise Oxford (English) dictionary simply gives the two spellings as alternatives but states that disk is the better. My Webster's (American) gives the two forms as alternatives without suggesting any preference. Of course different editions of the dictionaries may give slightly different slants but are most unlikely to actually contradict these possibly earlier views. Disk: disk pack, hard disk, disk drive Disc: optical disc, magneto-optical disc, disc drive In your special case, you can even say that your external hard disk shows up as a disc in Windows. It's correct. I know it may sound impolite (but it is not meant to be), but using the correct terminology is very important if you want to be understood correctly. I find your distinctions arbitrary and quite inappropriate; again not meaning to sound impolite. So, each to his/her own usage but please do not be critical of those of us not conforming to your arbirary conventions. Further, If we look at some acronyms associated with optical media we have: CD - Compact Disc DVD - Digital Video Disc but: UDF - Universal Disk Format (The file system frequently used on CDs and DVDs) So there is no consistency here! Malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
