Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Regards _ _ Danny Beger | Beger Co Lawyers p: 8362 6400 | f: 8362 3555 www.beger.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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OpenOSPFd replacing network routes
There's a fundamental difference between OpenBSD and FreeBSD's respective
networking. Specifically, the kernel routing table. In OpenBSD, it is possible
to have multiple routes to the same destination, and are differentiated by
priority. This capability does not exist in FreeBSD.
Let me just get right into the details by outlining a functioning OpenBSD
system, and where FreeBSD's issues are.
This is my example ospfd.conf,
01| router-id 0.0.0.1
02| redistribute connected
03| redistribute static
04| area 0.0.0.0 {
05| interface vlan1
06| }
Below is output from `netstat -rn' taken form an OpenBSD machine before the
OpenOSPFd process was started. The 192.168.11.0/24 network is used to exchange
OSPF information with its neighbours. 192.168.12.0/24 is a connected network to
this host. 192.168.13.0/24 is one hop away (via 192.168.11.2, its only
neighbour).
07| Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Mtu Prio
Iface
08| 127/8 127.0.0.1 UGRS 0 0 33160 8 lo0
09| 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 33160 4 lo0
10| 192.168.11/24 link#5 UC 0 0 - 4
vlan1
11| 192.168.12/24 link#6 UC 0 0 - 4
vlan2
12| 224/4 127.0.0.1 URS 0 0 33160 8 lo0
And this is `netstat -rn' taken after OpenOSPFd finished negotiating with its
neighbour,
13| Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Mtu Prio
Iface
14| 127/8 127.0.0.1 UGRS 0 0 33160 8 lo0
15| 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 33160 4 lo0
16| 192.168.11/24 link#5 UC 2 0 - 4
vlan1
17| 192.168.11/24 192.168.11.1 UG 0 0 - 32
vlan1
18| 192.168.11.1 00:50:56:96:00:89 UHLc 1 0 - 4 lo0
19| 192.168.11.2 00:50:56:96:00:90 UHLc 2 7 - 4
vlan1
20| 192.168.12/24 link#6 UC 0 0 - 4
vlan2
21| 192.168.13/24 192.168.11.2 UG 0 0 - 32
vlan1
22| 224/4 127.0.0.1 URS 0 0 33160 8 lo0
Notice there are multiple entries for 192.168.11.0/24 (line #16-17). Line #17
was added by ospfd.
Before continuing, I'm going to paste the equivalent information on FreeBSD's
side, so that we can better compare. Below is `netstat -rn' taken before ospfd
is started,
23| Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire
24| 127.0.0.1 link#3 UH 0 139 lo0
25| 192.168.11.0/24 link#1 U 0 0 em0
26| 192.168.11.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0
27| 192.168.12.0/24 link#9 U 0 0 em0_vl
28| 192.168.12.1 link#9 UHS 0 0 lo0
And this is `netstat -rn' taken after OpenOSPFd finished negotiating with its
neighbour,
29| Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire
30| 127.0.0.1 link#3 UH 0 147 lo0
31| 192.168.11.0/24 192.168.1.1 U 1 6 em0
32| 192.168.11.1 link#1 UHS 0 0 lo0
33| 192.168.12.0/24 link#9 U 0 0 em0_vl
34| 192.168.12.1 link#9 UHS 0 0 lo0
35| 192.168.13.0/24 192.168.1.2 UG 0 0 em0
36| 192.168.13.1/32 192.168.1.2 UG 0 0 em0
Notice there's only one entry for 192.168.11.0/24 (line #25 got replaced with
line #31).
And that's really the cruft of the issue: in FreeBSD you can only have the one
network route, whereas in OpenBSD, you can have multiple. When a neighbour goes
away in FreeBSD, the 192.168.11.0/24 route gets deleted. In OpenBSD, there's no
negative impact, since there are multiple routes to the same network. Using our
example, line #10 still exists as line #16 in OpenBSD, line #25 gets deleted
and line #31 gets created in FreeBSD.
This isn't really a bug, it's more a difference in capabilities between
FreeBSD's and OpenBSD's respective networking. OpenOSPFd doesn't seem to have
any special considerations for FreeBSD.
The Fix / Workaround
The concept is simple: create an IP alias where the network overlaps the
existing IP/network.
In our example, 192.168.11.0/24 is used to exchange OSPF information. Create an
alias of 192.168.10.1/23. That way when the 192.168.11.0/24 route gets deleted,
the systems will be accessible to each other over the 192.168.10.0/23 route. In
order for this to work as expected, you'll need to make a couple changes to
your ospfd.conf file.
This is the original ospfd.conf file taken from the FreeBSD system,
37| router-id 0.0.0.1
38| redistribute connected
39|
Re: Like it or not, Theo has a point... freebsd is shipping export-restricted software in the core
On 7/10/2010 8:23 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: I would assume you already did that before walking into my office to ask me about the set of licenses up for a review ... otherwise, there´s no way to me to look close enough where I wasn´t asked to look ... If you go tell your Dr. you have a simple cof and a runy nose, he won´t ask you to go trhough a colonoscopy or a brain tomography ... and, _please_, _by_all_means_ don´t count on him finding anything on your colon or in your brain in that case. True, but if you told your doctor to test that you did not have cancer and he neglected to give you a colonoscopy, then he'd be, well, negligent. But I am just being fecetious, I guess a lawyer may not have the technical knowledge to know *where* to get each license that may be used. -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Windows XP Backup resetting unix perms.
Today I decided to make a backup of some of my unix data to an XP machine in preparation for a migration. I set windows XP backup running and when it started backing up files in my home directory I noticed that it set u-x permissions on all of the files. Directories are unaffected. If I use XP's security dialog to set the permissions back, they are applied OK. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Windows XP Backup resetting unix perms.
On 7/09/2010 12:00 PM, Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 11:39:19AM +1000, Danny Carroll wrote: Today I decided to make a backup of some of my unix data to an XP machine in preparation for a migration. I set windows XP backup running and when it started backing up files in my home directory I noticed that it set u-x permissions on all of the files. Directories are unaffected. If I use XP's security dialog to set the permissions back, they are applied OK. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? Yeah, it does that because it doesn't understand unix permissions. Proper way to back up to XP is to make a tarball of your $HOME first then copy it to XP, that way the permissions are preserved. Hmmm. Apart from creating a readonly share, is there a way to tell samba to disallow this? Perhaps there is an option to disallow permissions updates altogether. -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Could not chdir to home directory
Hiya Nita,... I'm sure you'll get lots of help on this list. Just a question for you. Any chance you could convice the Juniper bigwigs to release the source code for the DX platform given that it's now end of life? I know it was based on FreeBSD and, as a former Redline/DX user I know it's got some nice stuff under the hood. I know that the BSD community would be thrilled if Juniper were to give something back to the people who provided the platform that DX was based on. If such a thing were to happen, I know I'd find it hard to ever recommend a different network tech vendor to my clients. It's a long shot, but I figured it was worth asking the question ;-) -D p.s. if you still are stuck with your homedir problems, feel free to contact me off-list. On 27/08/2010 3:41 AM, Nita Pavitran wrote: Hi, I get the following error message and I seem to be in the root directory instead of the home directory: Could not chdir to home directory /homes/nitap: Permission denied uname -a FreeBSD bigpink.juniper.net 4.10-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 #0: Mon Oct 25 16:23:23 PDT 2004 r...@bigpink.juniper.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/bigpink i386 Please let me know how I can get to my home directory. Thanks and regards, Nita Nita Pavitran Technical Publishing Engineer Juniper Networks o +91 80 30711390 m +91 98808 66566 ni...@juniper.net www.juniper.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrading ports while processes are running.
On 17/08/2010 12:13 PM, Mark Shroyer wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:23:27 +0200, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: At least, the step that wants to write will fail, and this will mostly be (finally) signaled by a make error. snip! That isn't to say you won't see any negative consequences from overwriting a running port with a newer version. Hypothetically, you might install a new Python including a new standard library, and if your running (old) Python process tries to load one of its deleted modules from disk something could break. Or not; I'm no expert on the ports system, they might have some way of working around this. But as for a pragmatic answer to your question, I err on the side of caution with this stuff :) Thanks for the info... I guess I can take this to read: The way install works, the binary files can be updated even though they are in use. Restart of the port (or it's deps in the case of libs) is required. If nothing is restarted, then the old process code happily resides in memory until it's no longer referenced. This can cause a problem with a dynamically loaded lib that is not the same version as expected. I wonder what happens when you upgrade a port, don't restart, then the following week upgrade it again hmmm. In any case I like the restart the whole server option after a major upgrade because if it works then I can essentially rule out the upgrade if I have to troubleshoot a problem at a later date. -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrading ports while processes are running.
Hiya All, I just finished upgrading perl on one of my machines and something crossed my mind while it was busy compiling and reinstalling all of the ports that depended on perl. Will a port install fail if it cannot write to a file because it's in-use? Also, is it necessary to restart the server or at lease the apps after a port upgrade? The answer to the second question is certainly yes. But is it considered dangerous to upgrade a port that is currently running? Things like mysql and apache come to mind. To take it one step further, what about shared libraries? If a process is using a shared lib, then it seems that it does not lock the file for writing, but I would think that it would not start using the lib until you restarted all of the processes that used that shared lib. Once the last process using the shared lib is killed, is it automatically unlinked from memory? I guess best practice should be to restart the system after a major port upgrade (unless you know which processes depend on the files that have been upgraded - then you should just be able to restart those processes). -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem building GCC - Postfix install from ports failed
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Danny Edge nocmon...@gmail.com wrote: I was advised to try this again. New install FreeBSD 7.2 R, installing Postfix from cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix make install clean I receive the following error near the end of the install: checking whether -fkeep-inline-functions is supported... yes updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile === Building for gcc-4.2.5_20090325 cd ./..//gcc-4.2-20090325 autogen Makefile.def autogen: not found gmake: *** [..//gcc-4.2-20090325/Makefile.in] Error 127 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/addresses. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail. mx# I guess gcc42 requires /usr/ports/devel/autogen Looks like the port is missing a dependency for some reason. Try installing that port, and resume your gcc build. If it works you could file a bug report. Installing the autogen port seemed to have solved the issue. Thank you! -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Problem building GCC - Postfix install from ports failed
I was advised to try this again. New install FreeBSD 7.2 R, installing Postfix from cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix make install clean I receive the following error near the end of the install: checking whether -fkeep-inline-functions is supported... yes updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating Makefile === Building for gcc-4.2.5_20090325 cd ./..//gcc-4.2-20090325 autogen Makefile.def autogen: not found gmake: *** [..//gcc-4.2-20090325/Makefile.in] Error 127 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/addresses. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail. mx# Here is my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Oct 2 12:21:39 UTC 2009 r...@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ (1666.49-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE AMD Features=0xc0480800SYSCALL,MP,MMX+,3DNow!+,3DNow! real memory = 536084480 (511 MB) avail memory = 510578688 (486 MB) ACPI APIC Table: A M I OEMAPIC MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 Version 0.3 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, 1ff0 (3) failed Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: VIA KT880 host to PCI bridge on hostb0 agp0: aperture size is 128M pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xb000-0xb7ff,0xfe20-0xfe20 irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 vgapci1: VGA-compatible display mem 0xa800-0xafff,0xfe00-0xfe00 at device 0.1 on pci1 skc0: Marvell Gigabit Ethernet port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xfe90-0xfe903fff irq 18 at device 9.0 on pci0 skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet rev. A3(0x7) sk0: Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yukon on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:11:2f:b9:91:f2 miibus0: MII bus on sk0 e1000phy0: Marvell 88E1011 Gigabit PHY PHY 0 on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto skc0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: VIA 6420 SATA150 controller port 0xeff0-0xeff7,0xefe4-0xefe7,0xefa8-0xefaf,0xefe0-0xefe3,0xef90-0xef9f,0xe800-0xe8ff irq 20 at device 15.0 on pci0 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] atapci1: VIA 8237 UDMA133 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci1 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci1 ata1: [ITHREAD] uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xeec0-0xeedf irq 21 at device 16.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xef00-0xef1f irq 21 at device 16.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xef20-0xef3f irq 21 at device 16.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 21 at device 16.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb3: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfea0-0xfea000ff irq 21 at device 16.4 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: VIA VT6202 USB 2.0 controller on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 17.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0 acpi_button1: Sleep Button on acpi0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller
Fwd: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6
I haven't used FreeBSD in eight years and haven't installed Postfix since then. Can someone please help with the GCC error below? Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org Date: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:51 PM Subject: Re: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6 To: Postfix users postfix-us...@postfix.org Danny Edge: Stop in /usr/ports/lang/gcc42. *** Error code 1 You have a problem bulding GCC. You are about 100 miles away from building Postfix. Wietse -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: autogen gcc makefile.def error Postfix 2.5.6
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Danny Edge nocmon...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't used FreeBSD in eight years and haven't installed Postfix since then. Can someone please help with the GCC error below? Thanks. You'll need to include a lot more info than that. You can review this page to get the best experience here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html Since you've been away so long a review of the handbook would be helpful for you as well. The best guess I can make given the info you provided is that you're trying to built a port without being root. That isn't going to work, you need appropriate permissions. make install clean was performed as root from the postfix ports path. This is a new install of 7.2R. What additional information can I provide? Thanks. -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Software RAID options
What works for you and can you suggest a guide? I haven't setup a BSD server in 8 years, but my environment will be: FreeBSD 7.2 Release x2 HD's (not the same size, if I need to spend the money, on two like drives, kindly insist) DNS cache and auth Postfix MTA 1 user/1 IMAP mailbox less than 10GB's of data I also plan on backing up via newbie rsync and SSH scripts. Thanks. -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Software RAID options
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Danny Edge wrote: What works for you and can you suggest a guide? I haven't setup a BSD server in 8 years, but my environment will be: I've been using gmirror for some time, without problems. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html Thanks, Glen, I should have mentioned that I did see gmirror mentioned in the HB. Pending further suggestions, I will try gmirror for software RAID 1 (yes, as large as the smallest disk). [Snip...] . I also plan on backing up via newbie rsync and SSH scripts. May I suggest rsnapshot? I will look into rsnapshot. All these new tools that I didn't have 10 years ago! -- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sendmail Masqurading and root mails
I have a situation that I've come across from time to time that I have never found a good fix for. Sometimes I'll install a freebsd box at a site with private addresses (RFC 1918). Most of the time these sites also have local DNS setups. I'll take my home network as an example. My FreeBSD box (7.2) does: - File serving - PPP/Routing/NATd for the local network - WWW - Local DNS Nothing special. The network is a 192.168 network and the local domain is .lan The problem is when I try to forward periodic output to my real email address. My email box see's the EHLO from beastie.lan and rejects the message based on the fact that r...@beastie.lan is an unroutable address. There are a few solutions I've used in the past. - Replace sendmail with exim and configure the SMTP domain. - Put beastie.lan in my email servers hosts file. Neither of these are what I am looking for. I'd like to make sendmail re-write all outgoing emails (envelope as well as message) as *...@some.real.domain instead of *...@beastie.lan. I have a simple sendmail submit setup. (sendmail=no in rc.conf) I've added the following to the default sendmail mc file: MASQUERADE_AS(`mypublicdomain.com')dnl FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)dnl MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(beasie.lan)dnl Recompiled the cf files and restarted sendmail. Here is the kicker. If I log in as a normal user it masquerades just fine. If I simply su - to root, the masquerading works fine and the mail is sent as the original logged in user. But if I log in as root via the console then it does not alter the messages. Apart from ditching sendmail for another MTA, does anyone know how I might coerce sendmail into rewriting root's messages as well? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sendmail Masqurading and root mails
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: I found the answer to your problem here: http://www.grok.org.uk/docs/smroot.html The file that is being included which has the EXPOSED_USER(`root') line lives at /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/generic.m4 Just make a copy of that file, call it beasie.m4, remove the EXPOSE_USER directive from your copy and then change DOMAIN(generic) to DOMAIN(beasie) in your mail .mc file. Cheers, It seems your google-fu is much better than mine. Thanks so much for your help. -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Strange startup behaviour.
Since I recently started using freebsd as a adsl gateway I have noticed some strange things at startup. /etc/rc.d/natd does not get executed. If I run it manually it works fine but not at boot time. I just rebooted now and (again) had to re-start natd. Looking at the startup scipts I see some strange things. The access time on some scripts is from yesterday. I wonder if someone might have an idea on where I'd start to look at this, or perhaps has seen this behaviour before? The systems is 7.2 P5. # ls -lasut /etc/rc.d/ total 382 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel285 Jul 3 00:17 adjkerntz 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1763 Jul 3 00:17 random 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel405 Jul 3 00:17 FILESYSTEMS 10 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 9386 Jul 3 00:17 bluetooth 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel328 Jul 3 00:17 ccd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel523 Jul 3 00:17 ddb 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1120 Jul 3 00:17 dumpon 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel383 Jul 3 00:17 early.sh 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1151 Jul 3 00:17 encswap 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1248 Jul 3 00:17 fsck 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2173 Jul 3 00:17 gbde 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2702 Jul 3 00:17 geli 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2800 Jul 3 00:17 hostid 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1780 Jul 3 00:17 initrandom 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5130 Jul 3 00:17 mdconfig 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel983 Jul 3 00:17 mountcritlocal 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel747 Jul 3 00:17 root 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel260 Jul 3 00:17 swap1 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3147 Jul 3 00:17 var 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel593 Jul 3 00:17 wpa_supplicant 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1335 Jul 3 00:17 zfs 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2560 Jul 2 14:20 . 4 drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 2560 Jul 2 14:20 .. 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel887 Jul 2 14:17 bgfsck 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2298 Jul 2 14:17 bridge 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel313 Jul 2 14:17 bsnmpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel382 Jul 2 14:17 cron 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel277 Jul 2 14:17 ftp-proxy 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel385 Jul 2 14:17 ftpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1951 Jul 2 14:17 geli2 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel446 Jul 2 14:17 hostapd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel322 Jul 2 14:17 idmapd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel367 Jul 2 14:17 inetd 16 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15107 Jul 2 14:17 jail 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1147 Jul 2 14:17 localpkg 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2462 Jul 2 14:17 mixer 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1668 Jul 2 14:17 moused 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel283 Jul 2 14:17 msgs 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel350 Jul 2 14:17 othermta 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel528 Jul 2 14:17 securelevel 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2570 Jul 2 14:17 sendmail 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel933 Jul 2 14:17 sysctl 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2299 Jul 2 14:17 sshd 6 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4552 Jul 2 14:17 syscons 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1673 Jul 2 14:17 watchdogd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel745 Jul 2 14:17 ypset 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel755 Jul 2 14:17 ypupdated 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel764 Jul 2 14:17 ypxfrd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel404 Jul 2 14:17 LOGIN 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel977 Jul 2 14:17 motd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel713 Jul 2 14:17 mountlate 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1083 Jul 2 14:17 nscd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1268 Jul 2 14:17 ntpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel432 Jul 2 14:17 powerd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel346 Jul 2 14:17 rarpd 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2400 Jul 2 14:17 rfcomm_pppd_server 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1684 Jul 2 14:17 rtadvd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel279 Jul 2 14:17 rwho 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel471 Jul 2 14:17 sdpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel286 Jul 2 14:17 timed 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel682 Jul 2 14:17 ugidfw 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel802 Jul 2 14:17 yppasswdd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel614 Jul 2 14:17 apm 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel784 Jul 2 14:17 apmd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel333 Jul 2 14:17 bootparams 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel656 Jul 2 14:17 bthidd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel460 Jul 2 14:17 hcsecd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel535 Jul 2 14:17 local 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel439 Jul 2 14:17 lpd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel241 Jul 2 14:17 DAEMON 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1610 Jul 2 14:17 virecover 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel979 Jul 2 14:17 amd 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2406 Jul 2 14:17 atm3 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel574 Jul 2 14:17 auditd 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1703 Jul 2 14:17 cleartmp 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1237 Jul 2 14:17 dhclient 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel427 Jul 2 14:17 dmesg 2 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel317 Jul 2 14:17
Re: Strange startup behaviour.
Bill Moran wrote: Probably good to attach your rc.conf file, as that's the most likely thing that's wrong, given the information you provided. That would surprise me. The thing that looked strange to me was that there was a heap of files in /etc/rc.d/ that look like they had not been accessed since the last shutdown of the machine. Here is my rc.conf named_enable=YES gateway_enable=YES hostname=nas.lan keymap=us.iso sshd_enable=YES zfs_enable=YES openntpd_enable=YES natd_enable=YES natd_interface=tun0 natd_flags=-f /etc/natd.conf apache2_enable=YES apache2_profiles=default backuppc apache2_default_configfile=/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd.conf apache2_backuppc_configfile=/usr/local/etc/apache2/httpd-backuppc.conf inetd_enable=YES nmbd_enable=YES smbd_enable=YES winbindd_enable=NO backuppc_enable=YES rpcbind_enable=YES nfs_server_enable=YES mountd_enable=YES mountd_flags=-n -r nut_enable=YES nut_upslog_enable=YES nut_upsmon_enable=YES firewall_enable=YES firewall_logging=YES firewall_type=custom firewall_script=/etc/firewall.rules racoon_enable=NO pf_enable=NO # Enable PF (load module if required) pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf # rules definition file for pf pf_flags= # additional flags for pfctl startup pflog_enable=NO # start pflogd(8) pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog # where pflogd should store the logfile pflog_flags= # additional flags for pflogd startup ppp_enable=YES ppp_mode=ddial ppp_nat=NO #For Office subnet ifconfig_fxp0=inet 172.21.5.118 netmask 255.255.255.248 #Lan subnet ifconfig_em0=inet 192.168.10.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex #Media subnet ifconfig_em1=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex # Wireless lan subnet ifconfig_ath0=inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid WIFI wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0xSomeKeyThatIsPrivate channel 4 mode 11g mediaopt hostap # For the internet PPP0E link ifconfig_fxp1=inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex syslogd_flags=-a 172.21.5.0/24:* -a 192.168.10.0/24:* smartd_enable=YES doorman_enable=YES pureftpd_enable=YES dhcpd_enable=YES # dhcpd enabled? dhcpd_flags=-q# command option(s) dhcpd_conf=/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf # configuration file dhcpd_ifaces=ath0 em0 em1 # ethernet interface(s) dhcpd_withumask=022 # file creation mask mysql_enable=YES asterisk_enable=YES ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange startup behaviour.
Danny Carroll wrote: That would surprise me. The thing that looked strange to me was that there was a heap of files in /etc/rc.d/ that look like they had not been accessed since the last shutdown of the machine. I think I figured out this behaviour. I believe that the access times are different because at boot time adjkerntz runs and sets the correct time (or rather zone) during boot. The times are 10 hours apart which is the difference between UTC and my time zone. It was a strange co-incidence that I rebooted my machine yesterday twice, the second time was almost 10 hours after the first which is why I was confused. Perhaps if the clock was set to UTC then this would not happen. It still does not explain why /etc/rc.d/natd does not start natd at boot. I also tried copying /etc/rc.d/natd to /usr/local/etc/rc.d in the thought that this was a chicken/egg problem and /usr/local/etc/rc.d scripts might run late enough to work. But I still need to restart natd manually. -D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?
Hi list members , I frequently update the contents of the ports tree but I have never upgraded any port. I am studying the way to do it, by following the handbook and an article on The FreeBSD Diary about the use of portupgrade. At the moment I am focuing the attention to the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file. The question that arose is the following: is there any automated way to check if any of the port to be upgraded has specific upgrading notes written in that file ? Do you prefer doing a mass or selective upgrade ? Thanks ! dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: iSCSI initiator lockups
--VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In our last exciting episode, Danny Braniss (da...@cs.huji.ac.il) said: I guess it's time to fix this. danny Thank you very much for the pointer to the newer version; we have seen a=20 marked improvement with none of the 30 second studdering. I appreciate your rapid assistance! Good, can you send me the info of the target/s you are using to add to the list of supported targets? Cheers, danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: iSCSI initiator lockups
--ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running into some odd headaches regarding what looks like iSCSI initiat= ors going to sleep for approximately 30 seconds before returning to life and pumping a ton of information back to the target. While this is happening, system load climbs up alarmingly fast. Looking at tcpdumps in Wireshark, it shows what appears to be a nearly exact 30 second delay where the initiator stops talking to the target server, then abruptly restarts. Currently 8 machines are talking to 2 servers with 4 targets a piece, and while its= =20 working, we get good throughput. Activity is moderately high, as we are=20 using the iSCSI targets as spool disks in an email cluster. As it appears that iscsi-target is a single-threaded process, would it be valuable to put each target in its own process on its own port? At any rate, this is causing serious problems on the mail processing machines. can you send me the output of sysctl net.iscsi chears, danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5
Hello, I am building a 6x500GB SATA HARDWARE RAID5 storage server to - Store large files, 10BM~1GB/file - Handling 500+ concurrent connections - Transfer rate around 100~200Mbit/s I am thinking of using the patch from Wojciech Puchar to reduce hard drive data seek in order to handle large number of concurrent connections whilst outputting 100~200Mbit/s. patch /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h #ifndef DFLTPHYS #define DFLTPHYS(1024 * 1024) /* default max raw I/O transfer size */ #endif #ifndef MAXPHYS #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ #endif #ifndef MAXDUMPPGS To store files greater than 10MB, I come up with the following proposal for my File System: - UFS2 - Soft Update Enable - block-size 1,048,576 I am not completely sure what advantage I got from this configuration but I am pretty sure that FSCK is much quicker with 1M file system block-size. Is there any other thing I need to consider in term of performance and reliability? I hope that this system will perform much better than my current 6x300GB SCSI 10K RPM system. Appreciate any advice, Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5
Why do you think slower drives using an interface that has known problems handling concurrent connections will be faster than faster drives using an interface designed for concurrency? My current 6x300GB SCSI system using the FreeBSD default max raw I/O transfer size (64KB). Assume that all reads are random. In order to read 1MB from the hard drive, it would cost: - 1024/64 * (seek time + time to read 64K) - 16 * (8ms + 1ms) [average seek time on SATA 7200RPM is 8ms, make it 0ms for read time] - 128ms to read 1MB If I change the default max raw I/O transfer size to 1MB it would only cost (8ms seek time + 2.6ms read 1MB using SATA300). So, the time to read 1MB is only about 10.6ms. As we can see here reading 1MB from the hard disk is at least 10 times better if we increase the default max raw I/O transfer size to 1MB. This is mainly because the main cost for reading random data from hard disk is seek time. I think the drawback from such configuration is that our server will consume at least: - n concurrent connections * default max raw I/O transfer size of memory just for reading the data from hard disk. RAM quite cheap these days, I think it's ok. Based on my experiences with SATA vs. U160/U320 SCSI or SAS your likely outcome is to see a marked decrease in performance. I'd be interested to hear your results. If both SATA and SCSI system using the same configuration, the end result should be obvious. However, If SCSI system using 64K IO transfer size whilst SATA using 1MB IO transfer size, I don't know! I think the SATA system will outperform the SCSI system. I'll let you know when I get the new SATA system from my ISP. Cheers, Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5
Hi Wojciech Puchar, The reason I want to use hardware RAID is because I got so much problem with software RAID5 4 years ago on FreeBSD 5.4. I still remember those nightmares. Furthermore, hardware RAID5 doesn't require much knowledge and management. But you could be right, the CPU speed is triple now, software RAID gets smarter and more stable, it could perform better than hardware RAID because it's more flexible. But again, I still prefer hardware because it's easy to use and easy to manage. Thanks all the tips Wojciech Puchar, Danny -Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 9:16 PM To: Danny Do Cc: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 SATA using 1MB IO transfer size, I don't know! I think the SATA system will SATA drives aren't much slower than SCSI. simply make this 1MB IO transfer size. as you still want hardware RAID5 it looks you simply read maybe every second word from my mails we exchanged privately. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5
Hi Wojciech Puchar, I got Perc 4E-DI Embedded Raid Adapter (256MB) from DELL for my current SCSI system. They said it's the enterprise class. I don't know much about the performance between software RAID and hardware RAID. Could you please tell me if this type of hardware RAID controller could match the software RAID you were talking about? I don't want to pay for it if I don't really need it. Thanks, Danny -Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 1:56 AM To: Danny Do Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 The reason I want to use hardware RAID is because I got so much problem with software RAID5 4 years ago on FreeBSD 5.4. I still remember those nightmares. Furthermore, hardware RAID5 doesn't require much knowledge and management. But you could be right, the CPU speed is triple now, software RAID gets smarter and more stable, it could perform better than hardware RAID because it's more flexible. But again, I still prefer hardware because it's easy to it's someone more than that, still - you don't read my mails carefully. you will get better performance with my patch, but still it will be crappy with your hardware RAIDs compared to what it should be ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5
Thanks for the concrete example of the pitfall of hardware RAID Jeremy. I never had any problem with hardware driver, that's why I never thought of it. But you are quite right! I should be avoiding hardware RAID whenever possible. I get much more support and quicker response here than from hardware vendor. Ok, I have to pickup gVinum where I left it 4 years ago. Hopefully, the software is stable now. Thanks again Jeremy Chadwick, Wojciech Puchar and this wonderful community, Danny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Chadwick Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 5:45 AM To: Danny Do Cc: 'Wojciech Puchar'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Optimal File System config for 2.5TB RAID5 On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:49:27AM +0700, Danny Do wrote: I got Perc 4E-DI Embedded Raid Adapter (256MB) from DELL for my current SCSI system. They said it's the enterprise class. I don't know much about the performance between software RAID and hardware RAID. I'm not familiar with PERC (LSI) controllers, just for the record. Could you please tell me if this type of hardware RAID controller could match the software RAID you were talking about? What you're asking for is too much -- and this conversation is starting to delve into freebsd-hardware, not freebsd-questions. Unless someone out there has done full benchmarks comparing FreeBSD ZFS or FreeBSD gvinum to a PERC 4E-DI, with all kinds of test cases (what sort of server it is, what it's doing disk-wise, etc.), I doubt you'll be able to get a conclusive answer here. Such benchmarking would require weeks of effort by someone. Heck, I'm not even sure FreeBSD supports the PERC 4E-DI. That said, if you go with that controller, you should be aware of the following things: there are many problems with hardware RAID. 1) If the controller goes bad after the lifetime of the controller has expired, there is very little chance the vendor will give you a replacement controller that understands the metadata of the previous/bad controller. You are flat out stuck with that model of controller for the rest of your life, unless the vendor can *guarantee* backwards compatibility when providing a newer controller. And I'm willing to bet money that general technical support has no idea what metadata is, or any technical details; they just know what they're told (controller X is no longer available, give them controller Y) 2) Driver support is often iffy with such controllers, at least under FreeBSD. FreeBSD SCSI CAM is quite reliable, so that's not the problem. Here's some past evidence of mfi(4) and mpt(4) having problems administrating arrays, or experiencing horrible performance, requiring tuning be done and much troubleshooting: http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues 3) You are at the whim of the hardware RAID controller's BIOS. Performance can be affected by bugs in the BIOS, or BIOS bugs can cause you trouble down the road. You have to ask yourself how much you ultimately trust the technical support people at Dell vs. the FreeBSD community. 4) Driver regressions may hurt you. There may be a day when you go to upgrade to FreeBSD 8.0 (when it becomes stable), only to find that your controller isn't recognised, or has odd problems. (I myself just ran into this situation with -CURRENT last week, where my SATA controller isn't detected, while works perfectly in RELENG_7). You're then stuck on an older FreeBSD until those problems can be worked out. The only hardware RAID controller I've seen praise for, under FreeBSD, are Areca controllers. I'm told the performance (on a purely general level) is absolutely incredible/blazing fast. I don't know what those people are comparing against, though. Be aware that many developers, including folks like Matt Dillon (of DragonflyBSD) and Ade Lovett (very familiar with filers and disk storage) recommend you *completely avoid* hardware RAID controllers or on-motherboard RAID (e.g. Intel MatrixRAID), and go with OS-based RAID (ZFS, gvinum, or standalone UFS2+SU filesystems). If you reach a point where disk I/O on that server is becoming so heavy that you feel you need a hardware RAID controller, that would be when you should come back to the list (freebsd-stable, freebsd-hardware, or freebsd-isp) to discuss the problems you're having with performance. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http
Hard disk bottle neck.
Hi guys, I have this problem for years but couldn't find a way to solve it. I have a file server handling large files from 1MByte to 1GByte. Server Info: FreeBSD 6.2 Apache 2.2.9 DELL PowerEdge 1850 2GB RAM (only 184MB is active) 6x300MB SCSI 10K RPM RAID5 Gigabit Ethernet Connection My server can output NO MORE than 60Mbps (read only). The bottle neck is the hard disk. If I use ONE connection to download file from my server, the speed can go up to about 400Mbps. If I let visitors download using multiple connections, the server cannot output more than 60Mbps. My service is similar to rapidshare/megaupload, I am wondering how they configure their servers? If I recall correctly, it doesn't cost much time to read the data from the disk but it does cost a lot of time to seek for the data. Correct me if I am wrong, if I increase the read buffer size, there would be less disk seek (disk access). Let's say the read buffer is 64K, if I increase it to 640K, the disk seek would reduce by 90%. Thus, more data can be read from the hard drive. What should I do now? Any suggestion is appreciated! Danny Do ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hard disk bottle neck.
Hi Matthew Wojciech Puchar and others, First of all, I'd like to correct one mistyped: - I got 6x300GB SCSI 10K RPM hard drive. - Most of my files are about 100MB, many as big as 1GB. - Caching is not an option. Thanks for the advices but caching is not an option for me as most of my files are about 100MB, many files are as big as 1GB. I tried Lighty a few years ago but it doesn't help. The problem I think is disk seek. If I can reduce disk seek by increasing read buffer, I think problem would be solved. I am thinking of trying Wojciech Puchar method by patching the kernel with the following code: patch /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h #ifndef DFLTPHYS #define DFLTPHYS(1024 * 1024) /* default max raw I/O transfer size */ #endif #ifndef MAXPHYS #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ #endif #ifndef MAXDUMPPGS I'll update the result. I'll tell you how I go. Maybe sometimes in the next fortnight. Thanks everyone, thanks Wojciech Puchar, Danny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2008 7:30 PM To: Danny Do Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard disk bottle neck. Danny Do wrote: Hi guys, I have this problem for years but couldn't find a way to solve it. I have a file server handling large files from 1MByte to 1GByte. Server Info: FreeBSD 6.2 Apache 2.2.9 DELL PowerEdge 1850 2GB RAM (only 184MB is active) 6x300MB SCSI 10K RPM RAID5 Gigabit Ethernet Connection My server can output NO MORE than 60Mbps (read only). The bottle neck is the hard disk. If I use ONE connection to download file from my server, the speed can go up to about 400Mbps. If I let visitors download using multiple connections, the server cannot output more than 60Mbps. My service is similar to rapidshare/megaupload, I am wondering how they configure their servers? If I recall correctly, it doesn't cost much time to read the data from the disk but it does cost a lot of time to seek for the data. Correct me if I am wrong, if I increase the read buffer size, there would be less disk seek (disk access). Let's say the read buffer is 64K, if I increase it to 640K, the disk seek would reduce by 90%. Thus, more data can be read from the hard drive. What should I do now? Try some different webservers. Apache is great, but it is designed to be maximally flexible and capable of doing anything you can imagine rather than to be absolutely as fast as possible. There are some light-weight servers which have put work into optimizing delivery of static content -- usually spoken of in the context of serving images but any static files will be suitable material. Personally, I really like nginx for this. Lots of people go for lighttpd and there are a number of other alternatives in ports. Also, depending on exactly how much content you have to serve and whether certain items are very much more popular than others, a reverse proxy / memory cache (a.k.a http accelerator) may help. varnish is the obvious candidate here, but you'll have to experiment a bit to see what the optimal settings are and if it actually helps at all. If your website runs using a scripting language such as PHP, then another possibility is memcached -- although described as a cache for dynamically generated pages, it can cache just about anything, but you will need some sort of scripting language to interface to it from your web server. There are memcached APIs for all popular languages and probably a few you've never heard of... The various caching strategies basically work because they keep recently accessed files in RAM, avoiding an expensive round-trip to the HDD to retrieve the data (memory access takes nano- or micro- seconds: disk accesses take milliseconds). Of course, the OS itself also does exactly the same thing in a general way, and FreeBSD is already very good in this respect. Caching software however gives you more control over what gets cached and for how long, enabling you to tune this specific application for maximum performance. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hard disk bottle neck.
Hi Diego, The reason I use RAID5 because I don't want to waste too much space on redundancy whilst taking the advantage of read. Over 99% of disk access are expected to be reading. I could split to 2xRAID5 but I will have difficulty with file management later. Furthermore, the system would use 2 disks for parity. I don't want to lose too much space. [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCSI disks are still very expensive. :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diego F. Arias R. Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2008 11:25 PM To: Bill Moran Cc: Wojciech Puchar; Danny Do; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard disk bottle neck. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after you recompile the kernel with that patch, check your disk performance in some directory consisting of many large files cd that_dir for x in *;do (cat $x /dev/null );done while running systat,:vmstat on another console More specifically, do this before and after you make the change, to demonstrate whether or not you actually fixed the problem. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] do you check gstat? If the patch dont works, maybe yoy may try to split the raid (2 raid 5) or better use a raid 10. The raid 5 isnt a top performance raid. -- mmm, interesante. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Thursday 17 April 2008 13:31:50 Da Rock wrote: snip You'll have to excuse me presumption here (I'll normally read all messages before adding to a thread), but you sound like a very good source of info here. May I ask you if you can supply some references to what you're posting here? I'd like to investigate this much further... Principal source I used for the current tuner support with saa: FQ1200MK3 application note from Philips (google). The bandswitch commands for the different types come from the original saa example code (which I found didn't work properly for mk3 tuners until I added more initialization). Also, in the kbtv2 tarball, in drivers/saa/saa.h there are quite extensive comments. There are plenty (semi-)technical datasheets you can find online, but documents such as application notes seem to be hard to get by. There are two things, with tuners and any other hardware chip or component really: one is you need to understand how they work and what certain words/lingo mean (an electrical circuit schema can in principle be enough), two is there will always be a certain specific way (registers) to pass and retrieve and possibly convert the data you send/receive from the programmable parts of the circuity, even if two tuner types essentially use the exact same physics. Contrary to popular belief, the problem with HW support in OSS is the latter more often than the former I think. That's not to say that the first isn't a hurdle. ATM I find myself studying PLLs more closely with the expectation that eventually I can understand a specific configuration more easily and possibly guess to some extend how HW registers are organized. I'd like to reorganize the tuner support that's now in the saa backend so that this becomes one type/class while adding other types, such as the newer silicon tuners (microtune, xceive, fujitsu). I have some pdfs I could send you but there's no one definitive guide to a very broad area like this. And I wouldn't say that I have a broad enough view here to act as a trusty guide frankly. If you're mostly interested in (digital) video I can recommend Video demystified by Keith Jack. Pretty hard core but stuffed with all sorts of useful info. Also, I thought I read somewhere that firmware is used in most tuners. Plus I found the linux drivers use firmware to make this work. Just a thought. Well firmware can and is used for more than tuner support, also for example for a/v decoding (not to be confused with mpeg encoding) with the cxm driver, i.e. hauppauge PVR-150, i.e. pvrxxx). Tuning is just one thing that could be in a firmware. There's a firmware kernel module, used with cxm, that can load firmware. Essentially firmware is a blob that runs in your kernel. So, if not needed, I prefer to avoid it, especially with saa, because the a/v stuff is all OSS and BSD licensed and it works alright. There's another thing which may be confused with firmware, and that's eeprom. Tuners tend to have an eeprom that can be read to identify itself (eeproms don't execute code), and while they may be useful for identifying tuners they're also often busted or produce nonsense or disinformation. If you don't need to depend on an eeprom, I'd say avoid it. All IMHO of course -- I'm just self-taught here. I once wanted to just make a nice tv viewer for bktr. Then I got an avermedia card for 20 euro... then stole a webcam (lately it has been stolen back though, but it lasted long enough to support it in kbtv), and honestly bought a pvr150 card :) And then there's this eyeTV hybrid stick and I haven't even started on getting that to work. It looks at me ... support me, support me. Creepy little thing. HTH, Dan [ I don't mind discussing more specific things, except for creepy little things that whisper support me, but off list then please ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 04:36:26 Da Rock wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: Hi, All. Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin... How to test tuner and drivers works or not. I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary bsd-patche within distrib tarball I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly). Avermedia is not a type or brand of tuner. They're a HW company that assemble certain cards/sticks from parts such as tuners, decoders etc. That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had Saa driver is still available from purpe.com, but only from a direct download link (there's no page anymore): http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled with support for the driver, not the driver itself. kbtv1 includes it also, for convenience, and because its needed for the saa backend anyway (well, some header). The saa driver only covers video and audio (I only use shunted audio with kbtv, not real audio capture). Tuner support is all userspace (directly via iic device). The generic tuner support that comes with the driver (as example sort of) seems to indicate that this is for a class of tuners that has three fixed bands and must be set to switch between it (as in Philips reference design). TDA and MKn init require some extra iic babble. Modern silicon tuners work differently and have quite different registers that need to be set for tuning. HTH, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 08:41:45 Victor M. Blood wrote: On 15.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 01:30 +0200, Danny Pansters wrote: On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: Hi, All. Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin... How to test tuner and drivers works or not. I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary bsd-patche within distrib tarball I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. Both are Avermedia actually as posted, and yes they're only marginally supported. So far only the analogue works (possibly). That saa driver- I thought there was a problem with the site, but I had no idea it could be downloaded with kbtv. I thought it was only compiled with support for the driver, not the driver itself. =from kbtv README If you set the WITH_SAA variable to True the saa.ko kernel module will be built and installed, as well as the tvv X-based viewer (gets embedded into kbtv) and a saa Python module that allows for tuning and such, exactly like the bt848 module provides for Brooktree based hardware. Note that some parts, not needed for kbtv, are not built and not installed by kbtv. = This is from an ancient version of kbtv. Tvv is not being used as viewer for a long time, instead a SDL based viewer, similar to the bktr viewer is used, and together with the tuning and some other stuff it makes up the saa backend Hope that explains things a bit, Dan ls kbtv-1.0/saa/patches patch-Makefile patch-support::tuner_ctrl.h ls kbtv-1.0/saa/saa kmod ROMS support tvv LICENSE Makefile Makevars README saa-driver that loading is here http://download.purpe.com/files/saa-REL_14.tgz or http://download.purpe.com/files/ bsd patches from /usr/ports/multimedia/kbtv/work/*/saa/patches kbtv: http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbtv http://freebsd.ricin.com/ports/distfiles/kbtv-1.2.5.tbz kbtv-1.2.5 cetrainly uses its own backend, not tvv. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Tuesday 15 April 2008 08:43:05 Victor M. Blood wrote: On 15.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: How I can test my tuner? I'm newbee to bsd and can't understan why tuner do not works, than driver loaded without errors Tuner support is not provided by the saa driver. The kbtv backend has support for some tuners, but not all possible tuners. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Avermedia 507 TV
On Monday 14 April 2008 12:25:14 Victor M. Blood wrote: On 14.04.2008, Da Rock wrote: On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:02 +0400, Victor M. Blood wrote: Hi, All. Anyone run tuner on phillips chip 7133/7135 on freebsd, I try to use saa driver, devices saa0, sau0, cii0 is present in /dev/ , kbtv runs, but freeze on begin chanel tunin... How to test tuner and drivers works or not. I haven't had success yet- but I have an E506AR. Where did you get the drivers from? I couldn't get access myself. saa_driver included in kbtv distrib, and can be found in inet, driver homepage is broken. I-m install it from port kbtv, the nessasary bsd-patche within distrib tarball I suspect your tuner (terratec?) is not amongst the supported ones. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD installation on AMD64
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 15:06:24 Ivan Voras wrote: Sébastien Morand wrote: Hi, I'm new in FreeBSD, I'm used to GNU/Linux from many years but I'm trying to migrate to FreeBSD. My hardware is AMD64 / 1GB RAM / envy24ht network car / nVidia 7300GS GC / USB Scanner / HP 660 Printer This looks like a desktop computer, with multimedia capabilities. It's very likely you won't be able to use some or all of the non-essential components. So nothing to worry about except the AMD64. I read that FreeBSD i386 installation is faster on AMD64 than amd64. This is not very likely, or at least as valid as in any other comparison between a 32-bit and a 64-bit operating systems. I installed amd64 and was quite disappointed by the performance issue, particularly because the nv driver is not good, and I got a lot of slowdown when some operations are made within X server. Yes, nVidia doesn't have good FreeBSD drivers, and I think they don't have any drivers for 64-bit FreeBSD. You're probably using the default As you should know, they have a published wishlist of certain kernel requirements that we have yet to implement. X.Org drivers, which have only basic functionality. I found that with a gforce (SLI) card in my amd64 box I have to disable any and all HW acceleration. The xorg drivers have more functionality but it needs to be disabled for xorg to work at all without freezing (with anything multithreaded -- this last observation is mine). People send one complaint after another but no one seems to be able to connect the dots let alone look at the real problems. And no, I don't care enough about my spare (testing) box to fix it but the problems are real. So before reinstalling everything, I'd like to know : Is it a reasonable choice (in terme of performance, reliability, and compatibility terms) to install i386 over amd64 arch? Will I be able to install nvidia drivers and every i386 tools? (I got only working under i386 several times when installing port) Are there other issues I should be aware of using such an installation? While there are people using FreeBSD for a graphical desktop, and some of them are even using the 64-bit version, they are few and far between, and most of them are satisfied with the bare essentials. For X.Org issues you might try the freebsd-x11@ mailing list. For issues with specific ports, try stable@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be ready for a lot of manual configuration (as compared to Linux). It's considered TIER-1. It doesn't come close. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headless Azureus with any X11 Dependencies ??
Wael Nasreddine wrote: My server is not that fast, The specs are: Pentium4 1.7Ghz 1024Mb RAM 7200 RPM, 250Gb HDD I run mldonkey, a multi-protocol, headless server, on a 600MHz VIA Eden processor with 512MB RAM (http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/, also in ports). Even with many simultaneous downloads, torrents or not, the load on the server is negligible. It has built in Web and telnet interfaces, and also allows connections to the core from external tools (Sancho (http://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net/) is particularly good: I have it running from Mac OS X, Linux and Windows). Cheers, Danny. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar( bzip2 parts of manpage )
On Sunday 09 March 2008 23:52:59 Markus Klaschka wrote: Hi, I never used built-in bzip functionality of tar, but I like bzip2 more than gzip, so I just searched and found following: -j (c mode only) Compress the resulting archive with bzip2(1). In extract or list modes, this option is ignored. Note that, unlike other tar implementations, this implementation recognizes bzip2 compression automatically when reading archives. and -y (c mode only) Compress the resulting archive with bzip2(1). In extract or list modes, this option is ignored. Note that, unlike other tar implementations, this implementation recognizes bzip2 compression automatically when reading archives. what's going on there? I tested the -j option, works good. I created a file.tar.bz2 and like the manpage describes, tar -cvf is enough to unpack the tarball, you mean tar xvf Is that a FreeBSD feature, how is it on other platforms? Is bzip2 used, or is that build in as a tar? bsdtar != gtar In bsdtar -j (-y) indeed uses bzip2 to compress rather than gzip and upon unpacking it handles both tgz and tbz transparantly that's why you don't need to specify -j there (different from gtar IIRC). I think -j and -y are mainly there to be compatible with gtar but I'm not sure. Note that both bsdtar and bzip2 are in base and have been for a while so it seems like a logical feature for bsdtar. Knowing whether its a gzip or bzip2 compressed is easy to see from magic numbers. Cheers, Dan Cheers - Markus Klaschka MKDev - Markus Klaschka Development http://www.mkdev.eu Spain:0034 - 63 747 23 07 UK: 0044 - 750 910 2718 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype:mark-use IRC: mark-use @ irc.freenode.net : #freebsd, ##security, #freebsd-src, #bsdforen.de, #bsdgroup.de ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To sourceforge or not to sourceforge
Hi folks, II would like to sollicit opinions and advice on whether or not to put a project on sourceforge or perhaps somewhere else (better?) I have put kbtv1 on sourceforge as well as on my own website. Apart from getting to use sf.net as the first download location in its port I can't really say that it has been useful in any way. And updating it is a pain. Now that I'm starting to distribute kbtv2 (beta) I find myself wondering whether I should continue to use sf.net or just use my own site (and possibly some secondary location in one of our committers' webspaces under freebsd.org (easy to add to port). My primary objective with hosting my source (and to a lesser extend docs) elsewhere is availability (and to a lesser extend offloading data traffic). You know, just the simple thought what if I drop dead tomorrow. Are there better/simpler/faster alternatives to SF that people recommend? One thing I noticed with SF is that there's all sorts of me-too (that is marketing) websites that just scrape SF and then forever have outdated info and downloads. I don't find this desirable at all. And besides, if you're using FreeBSD you're going to use ports not some external stale copy of the source. BUT it appears that there *are* people downloading old crud from such sites. I tend to have the feeling that simply hosting it my damn self will work 99% of the time and cause fewest headaches, but I'm open to any suggestions. Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
I said: Maybe Qt's ActiveQt (wrapper for windows' activex) might be of some value to implement active x support to some extend and use the windows targetted controls rather than NSplugin. I reckon it possible but it probably won't be very easy, all the real heavy lifting would have to be done by the developer in question. I'm not volunteering though! ;-) Come to think of it, I was harsh about PC-BSD intenting to use wine, but that just may be (at least partly) the logical conclusion of the above. Shame on me there. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 20:17:03 you wrote: Let me be the one to point out the (next) controversial thing: here's a perfect example why using linux binaries for stuff like this is a dead end. And don't even start about the PC-BSD folks who want to make flash9 work via WINE. We need a native flash or a replacement for the animation side, and where flash is merely used as a video container, we have not option but to use youitube-dl, miro, and the like. But there too, some native solution is needed, otherwise it will continue to work like crap if at all. Personally, I tried both gnash and swfdec. It was several months ago. They worked just fine on some sites, silently didn't work on other sites. But the problem was that sometimes I saw another behaviour: after opening a webpage I couldn't interact with the computer at all. Mouse was moving on the screen, but nothing could be done either by mouse or keyboard. Actually, the only button working on the computer was power off on the front panel of the computer, next to reset... So, I felt I think this is problems with the various XEmbed implementations (IIRC its API itself has been a moving target too). browsing the internet just like a miner game: if you catch the wrong site, you need to reboot. I can't afford that, so I removed them and installed back the linux flash player. I'm not sure what exactly caused the problem - flash itself, or something between flash and KDE; On konqueror, (kde3), I can confirm that the newer style xembed as used in the linux flash 9 has not yet been (completely?) put into its nsplugin code. For me, flash7 works, flash9 almost never. It likely depends on which (missing) xembed thingies are used. Then there's the general bugginess of the flash9 plugin. Whenever konqi seems to choke up my box, I killall -9 nspluginviewer. Add to that, last time I looked at it, it looked that (konqueror) the way nspluginviewer invokes the actual npviewer.bin out-of-process and its killing (if needed) seems errant. There's some RedHat patches that can make this a little better. I would be able to live with that if native flash didn't hang the computer, if it just didn't work silently. Have you tried native solutions recently? See above. I sometimes use linux-firefox if I really need to. And for youtube etc I made an add-on to kmplayer (which port I maintain) called tubestuff, that can bypass kmplayer's normal url handling and instead download and play the video via dcop. It's not extremely robust but works fairly well for me (I don't mind the download time which is typically half of the video playtime). It's not in ports yet, sorry (and it needs to be updated to use the new youtube-dl, and I noticed today that my liveleak-dl script doesn't seem to work anymore). Maybe Qt's ActiveQt (wrapper for windows' activex) might be of some value to implement active x support to some extend and use the windows targetted controls rather than NSplugin. I reckon it possible but it probably won't be very easy, all the real heavy lifting would have to be done by the developer in question. I'm not volunteering though! ;-) What does OSX use? ActiveX, npapi, or something entirely different. Does anyone know? Andriy Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:18:39 Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 10:39:30AM -0600, Chris wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:12:37 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD. That's fine. It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or stupid to fix Linux. don't forget that linux changed from being good unix OS to be windows competitor. and it's competing well. Ah, something to strive for! :-) Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? Oh my! Ted my man! I'm sure that was a /Sarcasm remark! As you do know, many of us happy BSD'ers are well versed in Linux-eeze and actually live very happily in both worlds. I would hate to think I may fall into that category! Oh wait! I do! Doh!!! I don't believe he said that morons were the *only* people attracted to Linux. Something can be a lightning rod and still serve as a place to tie off your clothesline (to stretch a metaphor) every now and then. IMHO, that stretched methaphor is not only funny but also very true. Then again, someone's FreeBSD lightning rod is probably also someone else's clothesline too. They're just both a smaller part of the overall whole of lightning-strikers and cloth-washers. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: downloading video from http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=...
On Thursday 14 February 2008 01:37:16 RW wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:52:21 + Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 04:07:12PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Is there any command line tool in FreeBSD for downloading a video from a URL like http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7540047147367608928 in the way youtube-dl, for example, does? Thx in advance matthias Not exactly what you're looking for but there is a video downloader extension for firefox that works with video.google amongst others: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006 I suppose by reverse engineering the video downloader extension you could probably come up with a perl/python script to use from the command line. AFAIK nobodys done this. Do this and youtube-dl still work? I recently tried to download some youtube videos with the all-in-one video bookmarket, which used to work fine, and it didn't find any video on the pages. I think youtube may have change the way they display video. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] youtube-dl was recently updated. I bet the mozilla stuff just uses that. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 00:27:53 Da Rock wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:50:40 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 11 February 2008 22:26, Chuck Robey wrote: All you folks who are focussing on YouTube are (purposefully? I don't know) the fact that with just about half of the entire Web using flash in one way or antoehr, not using Flash is a huge problem, as anyone who browses without a flashplayer knows. Just to provide a counterpoint to this sweeping generalisation, I browse without a Flash player and it's never caused me any problem at all. There are a few sites which don't work without Flash. Having checked on a number of occasions, I've found (and I stress this is a personal opinion) that heavy use of Flash is a fairly reliable marker of a site I wouldn't be interested in whatever publishing techniques were used. It's rather like the old saying in the British advertising industry: only sing in an ad if you have nothing to say. How does Flash fit in with accessibility guidelines? In many countries, a commercial site which doesn't degrade gracefully when viewed with (eg) Lynx may fall foul of legislation protecting people with disabilities such as visual impairment. You know, there are some folks out there who are still using their old M32 TTY's, and they can't understand why any folks would need mouses. Those of us who have successfully made the move to the 21st century can tell them, but honestly, most of us are very tired of hearing the same hoary old excuses why things aren't necessary. The majority of folks doing browsing today aren't impressed that maybe some 3rd world country is unhappy with flash sites, they just want their flash sites to work, and ours don't. Why don't they? Because everytime someone comes up with a workable plan, all the real cave-men out there trot out there war-stories, and bore us all to death with their memoirs, and endlessly recursive arguments. Everytime they get proven wrong on one item, they just move the clock back a few months, grab the previous self-justification, and start the argument all back up again. You can't out-last them. I personally tried to fix things, got soundly beaten to death over it (and I WILL NOT try that one again, under pain of death, sorry!). MY flash works here and that's all I will worry about. I can't predict when things will finally improve, maybe when enough folks realize they don't have to put up with this. In short, I think ``half of the entire Web using Flash'' may be a bit of an overstatement even if you count Flash ad banners (which frankly I can do without), and the small number of Flash-only sites I encounter hasn't caused me temporary inconvenience, never mind ``a huge problem''. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHsfiQz62J6PPcoOkRAu6/AKCArtXTPwLGKD0xN+r6MG8fk+wEUwCglafp Al9ztYns1ZHDV7IQ8foSU7o= =1fY6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was a right pretty speech there, and I agree with the sentiments of moving forward with technology. However, I disagree that this is merely a case backward compatibility. Are you aware that the w3 consortium has web accessibility drafting committee? Consider also the facts that I have brought forward that Adobe has singled out OS's that are not allowed to run Flash Player. Consider also the fact that most designers simply use flash because they can't design properly and use other more accessible methods to achieve the same thing. I agree that a fix needs to be found, but this is not a cave man mentality, and we're not bringing up old war stories. The fact that this has not been all that successful given the larger number of sites now designed with flash player 9 which has been the number one problem here. If you have a fix I am sure we would all welcome the knowledge and use it- I certainly would. I merely point out (hopefully reaching some web designers and other flash fans) that flash is not the only way to go, and is certainly not preferable. Let me be the one to point out the (next) controversial thing: here's a perfect example why using linux binaries for stuff like this is a dead end. And
Re: Python threading - some ports depend on it, others break with it
On Wednesday 09 January 2008 19:40:04 Gunther Mayer wrote: Hi guys, I'm having so much trouble with this. I'm hosting a trac based project which is implemented in python and uses an sqlite db backend along with its python bindings. Now it turns out that pysqlite breaks badly (compiles and installs fine but chokes on import, see http://lists.initd.org/pipermail/pysqlite/2006-May/000553.html) if python itself is compiled *without threading* support. However, on the same box I run a postgresql development and testing database and we have some triggers and other functions implemented in pl/python. Guess what? The compile of postgresql-plpython chokes upon configure if python is built *with threading* support. Running it seems to work fine, but there's a reason upstream put this check into configure because supposedly this is known to break things. Chicken and egg - one of my ports insists on python with threads enabled, the other port insists I use python without thread support. My workaround is to compile python without threading, install(or upgrade) postgresql-plpython, then recompile python with threading, install(or upgrade) trac and pray that plpython won't eat my dog when I use it. A really painful and error prone exercise, especially when an upgrade comes along (security or otherwise). I need both of these ports on one box and I'm not sure what to do to sort out this mess properly. Any ideas? What's up with Python's threading support on FreeBSD in any case, why is is broken? To get you an idea of what versions I'm running, the affected postgresql ports are postgresql-plpython-8.2.6 postgresql-server-8.2.6 for the trac dependencies the involved culprits are: py25-pysqlite-2.0.7_1 python25-2.5.1_1 python-2.5,2 sqlite-3.3.8 # peripheral I remember with python 2.4 I had the same endless issues over a year ago so it's not 2.5's fault. Oh, and btw, I'm running 6.2-RELEASE-p9 i386. Gunther ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's my understanding that threading *in* python works well, but threading *with* python doesn't and you shouldn't use/rely on it. I'm afraid I can't tell you much more without an hour of googling and I wouldn't be sure if I can adequately explain after. I think it has to do with the GIL. I suggest to ask at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ?
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 17:20:50 Halid Faith wrote: I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with sed command. How do I that ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] just use -e s/foo/bar/ as many times as needed. e.g. %cat afile foo1 foo3 foo2 foo7 %sed -e s/foo1/bar1/ -e s/foo2/bar2/ -e s/foo3/bar3/ -i .bak afile %cat afile.bak foo1 foo3 foo2 foo7 %cat afile bar1 bar3 bar2 foo7 Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Friday 07 December 2007 22:37:12 Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary You may want to enable the xine backend in the kmplayer port. It's more recommended for DVD playback than mplayer, from what I read. I hardly use DVDs but I think it gives more menu functionality if that's what you're after. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD's and FreeBSD
On Friday 07 December 2007 22:37:12 Gary Kline wrote: Update: Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, but kmplayer works --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling in device atapicam into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. So. For toys, Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD is still first rate. gary For k3b/atapicam: Make sure you are in the operator group and have # CD/DVD RW access via atapicam perm cd0 0660 perm pass0 0660 perm xpt0 0660 in /etc/devfs.conf. If you need to edit this file, make sure to restart devfs: /etc/rc.d/devfs restart Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out....
I reckon the last two additions to this thread was the passive-aggressive version of can't we just all get along.. and now STFU. Look, Ted's right (ouch, that hurt ;-). Quite often -- arguably always -- if you really want to be heard you have to be able to confront controversial issues head on and tell it like it is (ok, or rather how you think/feel/know it is). If you're on the other side of such an issue, it's easy to publicly nod and safely join the herd, but it's much harder to go against the grain. It's not called 'against the grain' for nothing. And though I not always (probably mostly not) agree with Ted, I for one respect such a personality trait. It's easy to be a yes-man, it's much harder to be a no-man. But if you believe in certain things or find that you have gathered adequate evidence to support a different opinion, it's a good thing to have the balls to say so. Nice form and good manners are valuable, but if only used in order to maintain status quo they're merely shields for the yes-men. Besides, I'm of the persuasion that thinks that a good flamewar now and than isn't that bad, it's probably more harmful if the environment is such that any strong resentment cannot be expressed without some form of repraisal (sp?). Once you find yourself in such an environment it's do or die and you bet that folks are going to leave eventually. For that reason alone, I believe that the FreeBSD community actually needs people that tend to go against the grain from time to time. It's a healthy thing. Now to get back to the subject, what I don't understand is how OP thinks that [k]ubuntu would not need tinkering time. It's quite possible that a generic debian or arch install requires less tinkering to get it to behave the way you want (perhaps initially some more, but not after). Why not buy one of those gorgeous new imacs or a Mac lappy and be done with it, while still being able to do a lot of hacking if you really want to? From what I've read OSX is a great development system. Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list
I don't want to hijack this, erm, thread, but I get loads of spam (my mail goes through a hosting provider, I (post-)filter locally) and a significant part of it is loaded with technical terms, even FreeBSD specific. I suppose it's meant to confuse filters. Do other folks get this too? Dan On Friday 24 August 2007 01:00:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Thursday, August 23, 2007 22:37:53 +0100 dgmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, what you (and others as well) are suggesting is that the list maintainers do double the work so that you don't have to bother with spam filtering. How does this equate to double the work for the list maintainers? I've never operated a mailing list so I don't understand what work is involved in operating one or how that workload might be increased if some people post with one name while having the automated system mail out to a different, subscribed address Most modern mailing list software tests addresses periodically, automatically to make sure they are accepting mail. Some have suggested solving the spam problem by using throwaway addresses to send email to the list **even if the address doesn't work**. Now the maintainers have to maintain a separate list of exemptions and configure separate options so that those throwaway addresses aren't dropped from the list automatically after the requisite number of bounces. And endure the endless bounce notifications from hundreds of thoughtless people. Seems rather self-centered to me. In what way? You have a problem. You want someone else to help you solve it by creating more work for them so that you'll have less work to do. This is the internet. Spam is endemic. So rather than look for multiple methods to reduce the amount of incoming to *my* address I should just accept it all and filter it locally? Absolutely. It isn't the responsibility of the rest of the world to solve your problem. That seems rather irresponsible to me, ANy method which can help stop it source appeaers on the face of it to be a better solution. Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's always better if you can get someone else to expend energy on your behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why unthinking people love socialism. Short of encasing your computer in concrete, there's no way to avoid getting spam **even if you never post to a mailing list**. Either learn to deal with it or stop subscribing to lists. I'm sure that attitude will appear welcoming to new users. Gee, I'm sorry I hurt someone's feelings by suggesting they take responsibility for their own problems. Let me get down on my knees and beg forgiveness. I subscribe to more than 50 lists. You have no idea what a pleasure it is to read, over and over again, about other people's problems with spam. It's useless chatter that solves nothing and makes the list less valuable. (And yes, you do enough of it, and I'll /dev/null your address and never hear from you again.) If people took a few minutes to figure out how to rid themselves of the spam, they'd accomplish more than all the endless discussions about how to solve an unsolveable problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me, please!
On Thursday 09 August 2007 06:22:26 Latitude wrote: I'm interested in changing over to FreeBSD from Windows, but I'll have to say, you guys don't really present a forceful argument to Windows Well, it's a very different thing. But it can do mostly the same tasks though (and many more). users of how easy the switch may be. I get knee-deep in FreeBSD jargon the second I get to your webpage. I need to see an overwhelming argument Everything that is sorta specialized has its jargon, especially something that is very technical, like an operating system. We do have a very good handbook though, which does a pretty good job to gently introduce all that jargon to people who want to know what it's all about. that FreeBSD is a perfectly acceptable alternative for home desktop users who have previously known only Windows. It can be an acceptable alternative depending on what's considered acceptable, that is, what you want to do with it. I use it exclusively on my desktop. I'll admit that sometimes you may have to hack around a little though. But that's also the fun of it. I also do some programming specifically for the FreeBSD desktop. We surely need improvement there, of course we do, we're a volunteer project. But for me it's nice enough and if I want to I can control it to a level that Windows never allows a user to get to. If you're not a tinkerer you could try and see if you like PC-BSD or DesktopBSD. They are similar but preconfigured FreeBSD based operating systems. For instance, if I download and install FreeBSD, will I instantly have a desktop windowing environment that I can navigate in while I figure out You can have that if you select a desktop environment at install (e.g. KDE or GNOME). what's going on? Will I have a browser and way to setup an internet Browser: yes, even many if you select many. connection right off the bat? How will I migrate files from other Nowadays most people have DSL or cable and both come with a modem and/or router. If you are in the sysinstall installer and you have such a connection through DHCP it should instantly work. Otherwise, if for example behind a (or your own) firewall, at worst, you'd have to type an IP address, make up some computer name for it, and maybe type in the DNS addresses of your ISP. You'd need to do this too in windows. If you have a dial-in modem, I suggest you try installing KDE and use kppp to connect. operating systems? It's possible to mount windows FAT and NTFS partitions and then copy the data over. Obviously if some data is dependent on a Microsoft program to be useful, we may not have an ability to load it into another equivalent program. But for most common formats, like most Office documents, this is no problem for software like OpenOffice or KOffice (perhaps some minor things need to be adjusted). I understand you guys have been around for a while, but you don't seem to understand the monumental fear involved in switching operating The fear is justified. Something else will always be, well, different :) systems. You need to address those concerns head on from the start. I Like I said, the handbook does this quite well. It's still for the technically inclined, yes. That probably won't change, if only because at FreeBSD they like to give the user (which may also be a developer of course!) as much choice as [s]he needs. But you know what, all in all, I think to have a nice desktop on FreeBSD and have your network up and everything work, etc, and perhaps some multimedia hardware setup, all that is probably in less then 10 config files, which are all text, so once you read up on how to use them and all the possibilities they have (just focus on the ones you're interested in, I do that too), you have a lot of power on your hands. Is that user unfriendly or user-enabling? Again, depends on what you expect I guess. But I hope that you can understand that if this enabling wasn't there we wouldn't have the developer community that we have and need. need to see several screenshots of apps that I can use as alternatives to what I have. Generally, the screenshots you see from Linux distributions show the same programs that have been ported and thus run on FreeBSD. So that's your browser, email program, music player, etc. There's many of them. Help me (and yourselves) out. Hope I did. It's not all that hard to give a to-the-point and honest answer. Now here's some food for thought for all the advocates who found it necessary to answer: It's apparently harder to shut your fat fucking face if you don't have anything useful to contribute. With the notable exceptions of Paul Schmehl, Mario Lobo and a few others, the majority of snide answers here are nothing short of disgraceful. Great way to chase folks away. It's immaterial if its flamebait or not. I for one *am* doing my best to make the FreeBSD desktop nicer and more idiot-proof (KDE in my case) and then to read
Re: high resource demand fron mldonkey
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 04:44:17PM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, I run mldonkey (mlnet+gui) on freebsd 6.2 and found it takes up a lot of CPU resources. Is this a common thing or just me. I run mlnet 2.8.7 *without* the GUI on 6.2 on a 533MHz VIA C3 (hardly a powerhorse) and it consumes very, very little CPU at all. It does consume as much memory as it can, and the CPU load is high for the first minute after launching, but overall it runs very smoothly. The advantage of running it headless is that you can use different GUIs to connect in from different hosts. Sancho (http://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net) is a good choice, but there are others. Cheers, Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building packages for dependencies
On Monday 21 May 2007 22:11:34 Erik Norgaard wrote: Hi: When I do a # make install package I only get a package built for the port in question, not for dependencies. How do I make packages of all dependencies too? Thanks, Erik make package-recursive Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: STABLE + KEXI 1.1.2 (koffice 1.6.2) + KDE 3.5.6 = no sql?
On Friday 11 May 2007 22:44:39 Bram Schoenmakers wrote: Op vrijdag 11 mei 2007, schreef Drew Sanford: Hi, I am using Kexi to track various things in my office, including time off. This works well because I can write queries for each employee showing me how much time they have requested off, etc. - however it appears that after a recent upgrade of all ports, which included a KDE update, SQL no longer works. For instance, I have a table called time_off that has many records in it, but even a simple query such as SELECT * FROM time_off; yields an empty result. Does anyone have any pointers on what it might take to get this working again? I have about 30 saved queries, none of them work any more. What kind of database? Native (SQLite), MySQL, Postgres? Kind regards, I think you should install the qt database(s) support you want via ports: qt-ibase-plugin qt-mysql-plugin qt-odbc-plugin qt-pgsql-plugin qt-sqlite-plugin qt4-ibase-plugin qt4-mysql-plugin qt4-odbc-plugin qt4-pgsql-plugin qt4-sql qt4-sqlite-plugin qt4-sqlite3-plugin All are in PORTSDIR/databases. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A good server motherboard.
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Andreas Rudisch wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2007 17:01:48 +0200, Christopher Prance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were to build a server using FreeBSD 6.2 , basically for home use, serving media files, small web server, basically a very small load, which motherboard would you recommend? Mid range as far as price is concerned. What about one of these: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/ I have been running a VIA Epia PD for a couple of years now as a home server/router without any problems. Andreas I'll second that. I have a EPIA-M board with a fanless 533 C3 that's been running pretty much constantly (moves aside) for the past four or five years. It's not going to break any speed records, but it quite happily works as a Web server, Subversion repository, mail hub, torrent node and file server without any trouble at all. Cheers, Danny. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via kmplayer??
On Sunday 29 April 2007 03:55:04 you wrote:
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
playing with various window managers (aka desktops). Stuck.
To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several
tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows
video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and
trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
I've reached the File Association - Audio and to
x-pn-realplay {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
.ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
thanks for any help!
gary
First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must
have the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a
bitch. But it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in
konqueror's config and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types
with. And for embedding (the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or
whatsitcalled as the first or only.
Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab. But then what?
Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror??
In the list on the left? I bet it's also in some file, but that's what I do if
I want to change default viewer for certain mime types. The search for file
pattern is useful. Agreed, it helps if you know what to look for. Seems to
me that googling for 'realplayer mimetypes' or something would be a start.
Sorry that I can't easily present you with a complete list.
Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones.
If you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a
oddly mime-ified stream that wont play.
I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server. Maybe I'll
just scp it over and see.
My first guess would be that that's for your unix account's email. KDE
settings and resource files are under ~/.kde/shared
There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the
plugin that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in
the webpage but at least it does support moving back and forth in the
stream. To make this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an
appropriate libmap.conf.
Well getting the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the
linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter!
Do you have one to send? Or anyone else on-list?
I have this for Real plugin:
###
# Helix RealPlayer with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror/Kazehakase
[/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so]
libstdc++.so.5 libstdc++.so.5
libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so
libm.so.6 libm.so.4
libgcc_s.so.1 pluginwrapper/realplayer.so
Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the
earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because
it can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if
something with Real doesn't work I can always try to Open with..
realplayer instead.
:-)
I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs.
I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to
Windose or Real streams without too much hassle!
The only Realvideo stream I regularly watch is DemocracyNow. It's perfectly
possible that their setup is weird or even that their streaming solution
tries to not serve non-official clients, such as mplayer. It's hard to tell.
I'd say that if it doesnt play in realplayer it wont play in mplayer either.
Dan
HTH,
So far, so good, thankee!
gary
Dan
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Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via kmplayer??
On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
playing with various window managers (aka desktops). Stuck.
To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several
tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows
video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and
trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
I've reached the File Association - Audio and to
x-pn-realplay {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
.ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
thanks for any help!
gary
First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have
the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But
it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config
and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding
(the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only.
Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If
you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly
mime-ified stream that wont play.
There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin
that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage
but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make
this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf.
Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the
earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it
can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something
with Real doesn't work I can always try to Open with.. realplayer instead.
HTH,
Dan
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Re: mmap on freebsd vs linux
I'm not really an expert on this but here goes... On Wednesday 18 April 2007 18:05:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, i am looking into implementing a piece of the V4L interface. this involves mmap'ing from userspace into kernelspace. in mplayer, this is what is called: tvi_v4l2.c: priv-map[i].addr = mmap (0, priv-map[i].buf.length, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, priv-video_fd,priv-map[i].buf.m.offset); the file descriptor parameter is the file descriptor of the opened capture device. the offset parameter should be filled in by the opened device. A device won't fill in anything. A driver must. does mmap work on freebsd as it works on linux? ie: can i mmap any device? are there constraints on the device which should be met? You can mmap anything, but only if you get a (frame-) buffer of known size will it be useful to actually do something with it. The mplayer code probably takes the offset from what it knows about capture size (which for PAL/NTSC is known if also the YUV output type is known). You also need some signalling to know when to read the (new) buffer data again. I'd also advise to cast the address to caddr_t and the offset to off_t types. Will probably help compiling on 64 bits archs. And using both PROT_READ and PROT_WRITE seems non-sensical. You only want to read the buffer not (directly) write to it, unless perhaps if it contains more than just the framedata. That would seem bad design to me though, if you have to write to the same buffer that also contains data that you absolutely dont want to overwrite. I'm not familiar with v4l but simple and working mmap examples for FreeBSD with bktr and for saa are here: http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/kbtv-1.2.4/bt848/bt848.c and http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv/kbtv-1.2.4/saa/saa.c Scroll down to Framebuffer. The buffer size is determined by the frame pixel size and by which YUV type is being used. The latter determines how much data is used on average per pixel, so you can calculate the datasize. See how bktr has offset 0 while saa has offset SAA_MMAP_T0_OFFSET. Both are what they are because of how their drivers are organized. See mmap(2) for the nitty-gritty on mmap. In general: if it segfaults or spontaneously reboots you likely made a mistake with the buffer size or offset :) HTH, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD64
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 21:30:14 Michael S wrote: Good day all. I am getting my (first) Athlon 64 x 2 today or tomorrow and was wondering whether I should stick with the reliable x86 or try the AMD64 port. I'd try it but ... Any performance penalties when running x86 FreeBSD on a 64-bit machine? ... for some things it may ... Also what are the common problems, i.e. drivers, applications that are known not to work under the AMD64. This is going to be a desktop/workstation type system. ... there are quite a few 3rd party things that don't work or that need kludgy 32bits emulation. Flash comes to mind, also (MS/Real/..) media codecs. All the stuff we love to hate. Most importantly though, you can't use nvidia driver (32bit). I have a spare amd64 box with a nvidia based board (ASUS SLI something with the graphics card in a PCI Express slot, gforce4 IIRC) and I found I could only use plain (xorg) nv driver, and had to disable any hardware acceleration. Else it would just reboot randomly. I only use this machine to test kbtv on amd64. Moving the TV window around or resizing it is painfully slow (the video itself is OK but it eats a lot more CPU with non accelerated x rendering, up to 10%). Needless to say the machine is turned off most of the time... So I think what matters is whether these things matter to you :) I don't think the base system is any faster or slower. But it depends on what you're going to use it for. HTH, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Binary file not executable
Op Tuesday 10 April 2007 19:13:04 schreef Christian Walther: On 10/04/07, h t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm freebsd beginner I Download RealPlayer10GOLD.bin from http://www.real.com/linux/ then chmod +x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin run ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin but broken the message is ELF binary type 0 not known. ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. As it says in the URL where you downloaded the Realplayer from, it's for Linux. But FreeBSD is not Linux. There is a Linux Emulation Layer available that allows you to execute Linux binaries. You can do a # kldload linux to enable it. But you'll need to install some additional stuff, because Linux application will need Linux libraries... How can I do this? Not install in port Realplayer is in Ports: # cd /usr/ports # make search name=realplayer Port: linux-realplayer-10.0.8.805.20060718 Path: /usr/ports/multimedia/linux-realplayer Info: Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks Maint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B-deps: R-deps: linux-atk-1.9.1 linux-expat-1.95.8 linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_6 linux-glib2-2.6.6 linux-gtk2-2.6.10 linux-jpeg-6b.34 linux-pango-1.8.1 linux-png-1.2.8_2 linux-tiff-3.7.1 linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 linux_base-fc-4_9 WWW:https://player.helixcommunity.org/ AFAIK Realplayer GOLD is not freely available, you'll have to pay for it. No, it's the same thing. Same release also. It's just branding. From past experience, I think when Real starts naming a major version Gold it more or less means it's slated for obsoleteness (or declared final to phrase it more friendly). They're probably brewing a new release based on helix2. I wonder if it will only support ALSA (like flash9). I don't follow helix development though (its redundant IMHO). Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to handle forthcoming PR originator e-mail address
On Thursday 29 March 2007 23:22:28 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2007-03-29 23:40, Dmitry Pryanishnikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I'm an originator of 4 open PRs and 9 closed ones. My e-mail address will change soon. How should I handle the change to stay reachable for people working on PRs? Sorry to bother the list with (seems-to-be) a trivial question, I can't find reply in PR-related articles. Point me to the PRs and I will use pr-edit to fix the email address. Thank you, Gabor Kovesdan has already done it. Nice. This can also be done by any FreeBSD committer with ssh access to the FreeBSD cluster. I just thought that some kind of automatic tool should exist to accomplish originator's e-mail change. After all, people _do_ change their e-mails sometimes... Not really. Gnats is very flexible in this; it allows manual editing of the bug report itself. This is also one of its relatively annoying 'flaws' though. Care must be taken when bug reports are manually modified by a committer, and there are not very many tools to automake Also by a submitter. I recently learnt this: Never steep so low as to try and modify the (attached) patch rather than rolling a new PR, pasting in the same old text, etc. However tempting when you are PR'ing a series of 20 or so. But it will always bite you in the butt at some point! Dan stuff like what you wanted to do. Anyway, I'm glad this has been resolved now :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade suggestion
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 01:40:40 Gary Kline wrote: Hi Folks, Last night it struck me that one reason I constantly find new ports to upgrade is that with ~17K ports, if you're running one of the more common desktop managers and several popular apps, there are going to be at least a dozen minor tweaks every day. E.g.:going from foo-1.6.7_2 to foo-1.6.7_3. I used to run port[upgrade|manager] twice/week. Was swamped; recently, upgrading things daily. Since a lot of the wm ports take 24 hours to build/re-build, I'm pretty much wedged. Thus But you don't *have* to rebuild all the time. I'd wager to say that it's foolish to do so. When you have, e.g. a nice open-office, compiled with, say, the KDE option, there's no immediate need to update the beast if it happens to be updated. Maybe if it's a security fix, but otherwise if the thing works well for you, no need to update. Unless you want to of course. I do a massive portupgrade every 1-2 months on my desktop and I don't feel I'm missing out (and if I do I'll do that update earlier). And yes, usually there's a thing or two that I have to fix manually. It will happen also if you csup-through-cron every day. Perhaps more often. I think you're trying to overdo whilst still trying to minimize build time (= stability shall we say) and such. They're two conflicting goals. this suggestion (for all port/package upgrade suites): have a flag, say 'u' for urgent when *foo* goes from foo-1.6.7 to -1.6.8 or else when/if foo makes a critical fix. We have more than one port update tools (and they do somewhat different things), that would complicate things a lot I think (what color is yer bikeshed), and such a thing would probably need to be in the binary update (Colin's) stuff too. I Would've loved to have joined into the Coding ``love-in'' this coming summer, but my shoulder said, ARE YOU AN IDIOT! so not now. Besides, other tasks await. contro IMHO the sooner Google or in general the second IT/OSS boom fizzles out and stops solliciting what in the end equals free labor the better. Just my opinion. I don't trust them. They just want to have their fishing spot in their own backyard just like MS and Sun and Apple and Novell and they want it on the cheap. Once the IP wars go all out they are not going to give one damn about the original author of a work that has become theirs or what (s)he thinks or believes. /versial I think if you want certain things in ports/packages to change or to have (yet another) alternative management tool, the thing to do is to write it and PR it. It will also give you the largest amount of control. And I bet you can do it. Flames to /dev/null,guys; rational responses see-vous-play. gary Still trying to learn French :-) Meh. l'Amour et l'enfer are all you need to know. Oh, yeah, and fries of course. That's s'il vous-plait (needs two ^'s on both i's IIRC). I also found it useful to know where the Rue des Bons-Enfants was in Paris but you probably don't. Very off-topic :) PS: I hopefully will be upgrading//getting a faster used server to replace TAO. Even if that resolves part of my upgrade problem, I think we can do lots better with maintaining current ports. A week or so ago, you were asking about packages and if they might be offered by port submitters. I think if submitters would use tinderbox to build packages it may be much easier to get pkgs that are all from (somewhat or even exactly) the same pristine build environment. That's one idea I thought of (some port maintainers and most committers use it). I wonder if it might be too much to ask of our submitters/maintainers though. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Do I Surf From FBSD?
On Thursday 22 March 2007 21:22:15 Stan Cooper wrote: Hi; I have a server I just built with FBSD and I'd like to be able to surf using a browser. What do I need to build to make that happen? Thanks, Stan2 If you mean a browser on the console (not in XWindow system) there's lynx and links for that. Lynx is one of the first things I install (after joe) on a non-X box. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Optimizationn questions?
On Friday 16 March 2007 01:04:51 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On Mar 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Jorn Argelo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Danny Pansters wrote: I know that this has been discussed a few times before, but IMO running a slightly stripped down kernel (i.e. custom, not GENERIC) actually proves to be helpful in increasing boot times (if options were added statically) and compile times if [(# of options added) (# of options in GENERIC)]. I can confirm this too. I noticed on both desktop and servers the boot time can be decreased by stripping the kernel configuration of stuff you don't need. I don't have any hard facts to prove this but this is what my personal experience is. me, too. Of course it will speed up booting but then again how much time does one spend booting, compared to using the puter: not much (at least I hope so for them!) If I do build my own kernel, for example to switch schedulers, I tend to toss out a heap of devices that I don't have anyway. But other than a bit more memory usage (which compared to the software that's run will typically be minor anyhow unless you're talking embedded system or maybe not-so-embedded but still of low spec special purpose boxes, like a satellite receiver box) you're not going to have a slower system because your kernel happens to have some built-in drivers that it doesn't use. The exception is a debug kernel of course that will impact performance because it increases runtime tasks/load. On a server I'd strip down the kernel, but for other reasons (avoiding any unneeded complexity). On a desktop I don't care as long as thingie works. YMMV of course. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Devil Image
On Thursday 15 March 2007 06:59:36 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS like a daemon/devil. How do ye know what thee Angel of the Bottomless Pit looks like? Do ye regularly meet with the Antichrist? Some people on this mailing list might argue that they regularly do ;-) Couldn't resist. Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary patches?
On Thursday 15 March 2007 00:00, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 05:07:43PM +0100, Gabor Kovesdan wrote:
Gary Kline schrieb:
Regarding most (or many) of the port changes--say, upgrading
foo-2.1.9_5 to foo-2.1.9_6, if the upgrade could be done by
downloading a binary diff file, could the resulting
/usr/local/bin/foo-2.1.9_6 be achieved by downloading a
relatively small binary patch? Seems to me that smaller scale
upgrades could be done this way in preference to re-compiling
ports or downloading entire pacakes. --Same would go for any
dependencies.
Why is this a bad idea!
I don't think it's a bad idea at all, but impractical
gary
The final form of actual binaries depend on a lot of things, e.g. which
version of dependency you compiled with, which CFLAGS you have used,
what options the port you built it. Some of these applies to packages as
well, that's why I prefer ports over packages at all. E.g. let's see
lang/php5. It does not have the apache module enabled by default. If it
were, then the problem comes up with Apache versions. IIRC, 2.2 is the
default now, but what if you use 2.0? How would you install php for your
apache version from package? The situtation has been already pretty
complicated with packages if you have higher needs for fine tuning, but
you can use them if you don't have special needs. Binary diffs would be
so complicated that I think this way we could really not follow.
Yes, seperate binpatches for every port option or build setting. And for any
differently configured dependency! And those would have to be all checksummed
also. Preferably from a seperate reliable source. So it quickly gets much
much bigger and complicated than a source-only approach. Which is complicated
enough as it stands :)
If you need simplicity at all, use portupgrade with packages. It has an
option (don't remember which one) you can use to make it fetch packages
instead of building from source. Nowadays, this network traffic should
not be a real problem, I think.
You've brought up a lot of things I didn't consider; this was
part of the reason for my post. It seems to me that there would
need to be some simple ground rules from the binary patches I'm
got in mind. The *default* CFLAGS in the port would match those
in the patch is one place to start.
But you only had an example with one single binary. Not many useful apps
installs one single binary. And then there's a multitude of libs (which of
course depend on other libs)
Obviously, this could get way out of hand very quickly. Two of
Yes, after two iterations or so. IOW: instantly.
my slowest servers (one 400MHz, 192M RAM) were rebuilding parts
of the KDE suite; the new kdelib-3.5.6 [??] just finished and I
already scp'd it over to my more beefy platform. Once I've got
all my servers up to date, it may not be that hard to keep them
current. You're right that bandwidth isn't a problem--um, in
most places {{ clearing my throat! }}. Bandwidth isn't the main
issue. It's time.
cheers!
Also, it frequently happens that when upgrading a large project (say Gnome)
you pretty much have to remove the old-install the new anyway.
As others said as well, it's a nice idea if you have unlimited manpower, but
practically speaking it's a maintenance nightmare much more than a source
approach is.
Cheers,
Dan
gary
Regards,
Gabor
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Re: binary patches?
On Thursday 15 March 2007 00:55, Beech Rintoul wrote: snip This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are a bad idea. If you want to upgrade using packages only use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every That's not (mainly) for security reasons, it's for QA reasons (as in: does your port survive a pointyhat run when in some cases there may even be trouble caused by a dependent package not yours but you may have to deal with it anyway). That's the main reason for building (and deinstalling) them in a known environment as the build cluster does. I do usually make available a (i386) package on my site when I PR a port but I expect that people who use them know that they're using a stop-gap solution (while the port isn't committed yet) or perhaps an get outdated package or one that differs in any way from the official one that goes on the FreeBSD CD and FTP mirrors. In other words I don't do package QA, while the build cluster and the FreeBSD pkg people do. But it's not a security thing I think. possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all). I suspect that the build cluster is waiting for user input after failed builds mostly ;-) Not building packages for every possible port config is probably more a people limit than a CPU/RAM horsepower limit. Some poor soul is going to have to report and/or fix it when it breaks after all... Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Optimizationn questions?
On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:16, Gary Kline wrote: Two quick one for kernel and/or compiler wizards: first, is a 400Mz processor considered a 586 (for my KERNELCONF file)? Think its 686 (but really, leaving 486 and 586 in isn't going to slow down booting or anything!) I always say: Use GENERIC unless you have a good reason not to. Second, is it safe to do a buildworld with -O3? If there are No. It's not supported if things break. stability concerns, I'll go with the default when I rebuild my 6.2 systems. The defaults should be fine. Also, like I said consider just using GENERIC and load the odd kmod if needed. Generally it's less headache and equal performance. thanks in advance, gary Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary patches?
On Thursday 15 March 2007 03:13, Danny Pansters wrote: I suspect that the build cluster is waiting for user input after failed builds mostly ;-) Before I get spanked for this, I know it's automated, what I meant to say is that the build time only isn't the only time it all takes to get things to work together. That humans are involved etc. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound Driver for REALTEK ALC660 ON BOARD
I'm looking for the driver files for the Realtek ALC660 onboard sound card. I'm using an ASUS M2V and it works great. Except the sound. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd
If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind typing pacman instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux. I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it blows up on you. Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but that was long ago before I landed at BSD. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KBTV setup problem
Are you by chance attempting to use bktr's MSP for sound (kernel option)? That's not supported by kbtv (unless someone who has a card to reproduce this writes the code), only wiring through the soundcard. HTH, Dan On Wednesday 06 September 2006 05:09, Mike jeays wrote: Has anyone else encountered this problem with KBTV? Note that the line showing the mixer channel seems to lack an entry. chaucer 501 /usr/home/mike # btsetup btsetup show BKTR - BrookTree/Conexant BT8x8 based cards === BKTR MODULE LOADED... Yes BKTR DEVICE PERMISSIONS.. OK BKTR CAPTURE CHIP BrookTree 878 BKTR TV CARD. Hauppauge WinCast/TV BKTR TUNER TYPE.. Philips NTSC SAA - Philips SAA713x based cards === SAA MODULE LOADED No SAA DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK PWC - Philips and compatible USB webcams === PWC MODULE LOADED No PWC DEVICE PERMISSIONS... Not OK SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring === SND MODULE LOADED Yes AUDIO CHIP... CMedia CMI8738 MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV. btsetup quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File ./kbtv_application.py, line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py, line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KBTV setup problem
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:33, you wrote: snip SOUND - Sound card and tuner sound wiring === SND MODULE LOADED Yes AUDIO CHIP... CMedia CMI8738 Hmm, someone else had the same problem a while ago, also had a CMedia CMI8738. I guess that driver doesn't work well with python's ossaudiodev module that kbtv uses to handle audio. This would be something to be coordinated by the snd_cmi and python maintainers I'm afraid. Maybe snd_cmi doesn't support ossaudio device/mixer at all? If you try the attached test that I sent him (put both files somewhere in the same directory and run 'python test.py' from there), do you get: % python test.py DEBUG: IOError or OSSAudioError occured ? If so, and there's nothing wrong with permissions on dsp and mixer devices, that would confirm my hypothesis (can you let me know if this is the case?) Sorry. Maybe you can try with a separate sound card. At least I know now that the MSP is not the problem. Thanks for the feedback, Dan MIXER CHANNEL FOR TV. btsetup quit chaucer 502 /usr/home/mike # kbtv kbtv: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up in catalog. Fix the program Traceback (most recent call last): File ./kbtv_application.py, line 136, in ? mainwindow = KbtvPart(player) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 118, in __init__ self.extendToolbar() File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_part.py, line 389, in extendToolbar self.toolbarwidget = KbtvToolbarWidget(self, tb) File /usr/local/share/apps/kbtv/kbtv_toolbar.py, line 48, in __init__ self.mixerchan = bthardware.MIXER_CHANNEL_NAMES.index(mchan) ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list PS: It's possible to set mchan to, say, line in the code instead of uninitialized, but I would think that would only make things better cosmetically (no crash) but it wouldn't make sound work. No, I am trying to use the snd drivers via the built-in sound card in the motherboard. I removed all references to the TV card from the kernel definition file, and let it be loaded dynamically, as suggested in the documentation. chaucer 507 /etc # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 37 0xc040 387d9c kernel 21 0xc0788000 3204 splash_bmp.ko 31 0xc078c000 4228 vesa.ko 41 0xc07dc000 328c snd_driver.ko 52 0xc07e 4d08 snd_ad1816.ko 6 29 0xc07e5000 1d9c8sound.ko 72 0xc0803000 4c4c snd_als4000.ko 82 0xc0808000 4fcc snd_cmi.ko snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kbtv application: I'm looking for someone who wants to take over maintainership/development
FYI: Kbtv is a small TV app for FreeBSD/KDE. It works with Brooktree/Conexant and with Philips SAA713x based analog TV cards (I actually recommend using the latter). AFAIK, it is the only properly working app that uses SAA (and unlike bktr, saa never freezes or panics). Also supports webcams that work with the pwcbsd driver. The tarball and some blahblah are now hosted at sourceforge (also still at my website). I also put a recruitment message on SF: http://sourceforge.net/people/viewjob.php?group_id=176370job_id=26247 I want to withdraw from this project, and would love to pass it on to one or more people who are interested in this kind of app, rather than just abandoning it. There is a port for it as well, it would seem logical to hand over maintainership to that as well. It is in a good working state. SF project page for kbtv: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kbtv My web page for kbtv: http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv Relevant buzzwords: Python, PyKDE, SWIG, SDL, C, bktr, saa, pwc If interested, let me know. I will gladly help you to get started. I crossposted to have maximum exposure, if replying and CC'ing mailing list, please CC to multimedia@ only. Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with recording
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 22:37, Matti J. Karki wrote: Mixer vol is currently set to 55:55 Mixer pcm is currently set to 48:48 Mixer speaker is currently set to 0:0 Mixer line is currently set to 0:0 Mixer mic is currently set to 1:1 Mixer cd is currently set to 52:52 Mixer rec is currently set to 0:0 Try setting rec to something 0, say 80 Recording source: mic HTH, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash Upgrade
On Friday 18 August 2006 01:45, Garrett Cooper wrote: Danny Pansters wrote: On Thursday 17 August 2006 12:52, Gerard Seibert wrote: chris wrote: I didn't see any such notices in fresh ports. Port: linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Path: /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin7 Info: Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin Maint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B-deps: R-deps: linux_base-fc-4_7 WWW:http://www.adobe.com/ Is this what you are referring to? I almost don't dare asking, but :) does anyone have this working with konqueror? Dan If it works with Mozilla 1.2+, it will work with Konqueror. See the installation prereqs from the adobe site. No. It works in FF but not in konq, if I point nsplugin finder to the right place it doesnt recognize it as a plugin. Something with relying on a .xpt file which is ignored by konq's idea of a nsplugin. At least to me that seems to be the problem. Thats why I asked if anyone else had it working. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash Upgrade
On Thursday 17 August 2006 12:52, Gerard Seibert wrote: chris wrote: I didn't see any such notices in fresh ports. Port: linux-flashplugin-7.0r63_1 Path: /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin7 Info: Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin Maint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] B-deps: R-deps: linux_base-fc-4_7 WWW:http://www.adobe.com/ Is this what you are referring to? I almost don't dare asking, but :) does anyone have this working with konqueror? Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rebuilding, Got Questions
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 20:44, beno wrote: Hi; The box I've taken over has BSD 5.3 so I need to upgrade. This is a big jump and the console is half a world away so I have some questions: * Can I do all of the steps of the installation without reverting to single user mode? * Where do I find the src to download?? All I find are ISOs. Is there no *.tgz file anywhere? * I'm upgrading from 5.3 to 6.1. Will I have to run mergemaster -p before running buildworld? Do I need anything more in /etc/make.conf than the following? CFLAGS= -O -pipe NO_BLUETOOTH= true# I have no need of this NO_SENDMAIL= true# I use qmail The current /etc/make.conf has this and I don't understand why: # -- use.perl generated deltas -- # # Created: Wed Dec 21 21:11:27 2005 # Setting to use base perl from ports: PERL_VER=5.8.5 PERL_VERSION=5.8.5 PERL_ARCH=mach NOPERL=yo NO_PERL=yo NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo Should I leave the above? Merge the two? Throw out the above and just use what I've written (above that)? Will that screw up the installation? Will that screw up perl? Not sure about perl, I only have PERL_VER=5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 on 6.1 Here is my procedure. Look good? I'd recommend to first rm -rf /usr/obj/* to be sure you don't have any stale object files, and copy your old kernel to another name so you can revert back to that known one at any time. cd /usr/src make -j4 buildworld // single CPU system make buildkernel make installkernel reboot I wouldn't do this, because after reboot your kernel and userland are sure to be out of sync and that may cause problems preventing you from fully (multi-user) booting. Or what if the rc scripts have changed (but not installed yet) and your NIC doesn't come up because of that... If you are willing to risk not rebooting to single user, then don't do a reboot after installkernel. Instead, first (optionally but recommended): mergemaster -p p means preen mode, for when for example a user and group needs to be added to your user database. You want to use this before installworld (or skip it and pay attention to /usr/src/UPDATING and while running mergemaster after installworld). make installworld mergemaster -p without the -p. Should you need to merge some config files, press l to keep the left sided line/version, r to keep the right sided. reboot The above recipe (with or without mergemaster -p) is what I've been using for as long as I can remember. It's pretty safe and if you don't have a serial console hooked up at your remote site, it's probably the best you can do. (also shut down all services except ssh before installworld). Well, if you're experienced and not too whimpy you *could* also use the dist tarballs from a recent install CD, extract them or copy first then juggle with some mountpoints to see if anything breaks, go back and forth a bit if needed... so you'd replace your /bin, your /sbin, .. etc, one by one and in the end reboot. HTH, Dan TIA, beno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KT port?
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 21:16, Andreas Davour wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Kurt Wall wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 11:35:57PM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 8/13/06, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a quick look around for KT in the ports tree, and did not find it. Am I overlooking omehitng? If it's not in the ports, has anyone gotten this package working on FreeBSD? Not yet, but we've got RX and SG. We're also expecting NJ and PH any time now. Try MB, it's a nice one. Personally, I'm partial to PA. Stan, are you by any chance looking for Qt? /andreas My guess would be KnowledgeTree. PHP/apache/mySQL document/metadata tracker from what I've seen. No port, but I'd expect it to run out of the box when all requisite packages are installed. Is that it? KT2 or KT3 Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coldfusion alternative
On 7/20/06, Glenn McCalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'd even put CF on the system and be done with it if there was a FreeBSD version (anyone have any luck with that?). Tracked down BlueDragon but that's apparently Win only as well. ... hi, you can deploy cf as a java application on any j2ee compliant application server like tomcat :-) bye danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Text to Speech
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 17:12, Gerard Seibert wrote: System Info: FreeBSD seibercom.net 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Sat May 13 19:46:07 EDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SEIBERCOM i386 I am not sure if this is the proper forum for this question or not, but I might as well start here. I am trying to get the KDE text to speech to work. I installed the 'festival' port and the 'festvox-aec' port. Everything seems to be OK, but no sound is emitted. The sound works fine on everything else. There are no error messages displayed so I do not know where to look to get this working. You probably need to install voices, these are ports that start with festvox-* and festlex-*. I've only played with it to the extend I had it read slashdot and such, nothing really serious, but I also found that it did nothing until I installed some synthesized voices. HTH, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a method to not probe certain devices at startup?
Hi, I have a FreeBSD 4.11 box (monowall, actually) that has apparently had a bit of a crisis with its USB controller hardware. This is completely irrelevant to me as it is a purpose-built box with no need to use USB now or in the future. The only problem is that when the box boots, it hangs for about 5 to 10 minutes trying to talk to the USB device. Here is an excerpt from dmesg (pardon the wrapping): uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 11 at device 16.0 on pci0 usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 16.1 on pci0 usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 9 at device 16.2 on pci0 usb2: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: device problem, disabling port 2 Immediately before the last line of output above is where it hangs. I found some oblique references to device.hints on google but I couldn't find anything that describes exactly what needs to go in that file. Thanks, -- Danny MacMillan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a method to not probe certain devices at startup?
fbsd wrote: Check that the pc bios has USB disabled. Also check that rc.conf does not have statement to enable USB. It is not possible to disable USB in the BIOS for this board (a VIA EPIA CL1). Also, because it is monowall, there is no rc.conf. I will ask this question on a monowall forum to find out where I should look for this setting. Thanks, -- Danny MacMillan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a method to not probe certain devices at startup?
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:35:25PM -0600, Danny MacMillan wrote: fbsd wrote: Check that the pc bios has USB disabled. Also check that rc.conf does not have statement to enable USB. It is not possible to disable USB in the BIOS for this board (a VIA EPIA CL1). Also, because it is monowall, there is no rc.conf. I will ask this question on a monowall forum to find out where I should look for this setting. To further elaborate: It's kind of like building a ship in a bottle. There is no shell access to the box. However, files can be uploaded and downloaded and arbitrary commands can be executed via a web interface. Using these mechanisms I have explored the filesystem and can verify /etc/rc.conf does not exist. That is not entirely surprising because the overview documentation for monowall says they have moved as much of the initialization code into PHP as possible. It's a little weird. -- Dan MacMillan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-multi-boot
Vlad GURDIGA wrote: Hello all, I have these slices on my HDD: - /dev/ad0s1 - Windows XP - /dev/ad0s2 - FreeBSD/i386 - /dev/ad0s3 - FreeBSD/amd64 and I want them all in my boot.ini. Till now I succeeded with FreeBSD/i386 (first did dd if=/dev/ad0s2 of=boot.bsd bs=512 count=1 from FreeBSD/i386, then copied the resulted boot.bsd file to Windows C:\) I did the same trick with FreeBSD/amd64 (first did dd if=/dev/ad0s3 of=boot64.bsd bs=512 count=1 from FreeBSD/amd64, then copied the resulted boot64.bsd file to Windows C:\) so, my boot.ini looks like this: ---cut here-- [boot loader] timeout=3 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS=Microsoft Windows XP Professional /noexecute=optin /fastdetect C:\boot.bsd=UNIX FreeBSD/i386 C:\boot64.bsd=UNIX FreeBSD/amd64 ---cut here-- Now, the problem is that when I choose UNIX FreeBSD/amd64 from the boot menu, it boots UNIX FreeBSD/i386!!! What did I missed? this page may help:- http://www.ubergeek.co.uk/howtos/grub-freebsd-windowsxp.html Cheers Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newly installed apps not in path?
On Monday 15 May 2006 22:36, Atom Powers wrote: I've noticed this behavior since 4.3, but it's just now starting to get really annoying. Whan I install a new application (from ports) I have to execute it with the full path until I start a new shell. (in sh, tcsh, and bash) What causes this behavior, and how can I fix it (cause newly installed apps to be executable without a full path)? If you're using the [t]csh shell, you need to run 'rehash' to update your current path. It would be good if the post-everything part of ports would do that when needed. Dan. DIT793# which sudo sudo: Command not found. DIT793# portinstall sudo ... DIT793# ll /usr/local/bin/sudo ---s--x--x 2 root wheel 89020 May 15 13:31 /usr/local/bin/sudo DIT793# which sudo sudo: Command not found. DIT793# tcsh DIT793# which sudo /usr/local/bin/sudo DIT793# exit exit DIT793# which sudo sudo: Command not found. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sunday 07 May 2006 03:29, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2006, Ian Moore wrote: On Sunday 07 May 2006 09:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I use kmail (part of kde) which is also very nice and will do all the above. I tried it, and was turned off very question ... my first beef ... I couldn't seem to select multiple messags in the thread window to do a mass operation on it ... for instance, in eudora, I could do 'shift-up/dn' to highlight several articles ... under kmail, the up/dn arrow scrolls the bottom message window ;( As you've noticed the up and down keys are already used for scrolling in the content widget. Instead use shift or ctrl and the left mouse button instead or the + and - keys (go to latter/next unread message) or the arrow-left and arrow-right keys (go to latter/next message). See Keyboard Shortcuts in the KMail handbook which is the obvious place to look ;-) Finally, most core KDE apps have a settings - shortcuts menu entry so you can even change the defaults. Some people call this bloat. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scripting languages...
To get back to the original question, I think there's one crucial part: libraries. Or modules, or function sets or whatever they're called in [ pick language ] sphere. It's the extra stuff that you can easily add or import which makes a language worth while, whether it's interpreted or not. That's whjat defines how much functionality it has for you. Now for scripting languages I'd say perl (if you like) or python (if you like, I do) or perhaps ruby (if you like), as all have a lot of libraries/modules you can easily incorporate and build upon. If all you're going to do is shell stuff, then I'd say you should use portable sh scripting and nothing else. Or one higher level scripting language (by preference), but not a shell-plus. Like bash... Or if you really want C syntax , use C ;-) IMHO, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox::::: ugh.
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 02:35, Gary Kline wrote: If firefox is supposedly superior to every other browser, why, when it sees a realplayer smil file, does it pop up a rectangle with radio-button options and a BROWSE button? I press BROWSE and another frame opens. I click on X11R6 and eventually get to bin, and there the only file I see is xauth. ...CCan anybody 'splain this? gary Set mime types and handlers correctly? I use KDE and konqueror, but once in a while I have to set some mine type - handler things and it looks like you got a similar thing. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: direct rending doesnt work in xorg
Björn König wrote: Danny Butroyd schrieb: Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection You have to use the driver radeon in order to use 3D acceleration. I have tried this but it has made no difference :( [rvn] /home/danny# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.0.3 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so: Undefined symbol _glapi_add_entrypoint) libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so The solution (according to the wiki) is to reinstall DRI and LIBGL from source, however, I have reinstalled all the relevant ports but I still get the same problem. Can anyone help? Does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so exist? Yes it does Regards Björn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
direct rending doesnt work in xorg
Hi All I have been tearing my hair out trying to fix this problem. Basically Direct Rendering isnt working. My setup:- OS:- FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #3 Xorg Installed from ports:- [rvn] /home/danny# pkg_info | grep xorg xorg-6.9.0 X.Org distribution metaport xorg-clients-6.9.0_2 X client programs and related files from X.Org xorg-documents-6.9.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-libraries-6.9.0 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org xorg-manpages-6.9.0 X.Org library manual pages xorg-nestserver-6.8.2 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.8.2_2 X Print server from X.Org xorg-server-6.9.0_1 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org dri-devel install from ports:- [rvn] /home/danny# pkg_info | grep dri dri-6.2.20050719,1 DRI OpenGL drivers snapshot All drivers seem to be working ok:- [rvn] /home/danny# dmesg | grep drm drm0: ATI Radeon Lf R250 Mobility 9000 M9 port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xe800-0xefff,0xfcff-0xfcff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.19.0 20050911 info: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode Xorg is setup correctly (as far as I know):- ---snip--- Section Module Load extmod Load glx Load dri Load dbe Load record Load xtrap Load type1 Load freetype EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card0 Driver ati VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] BusID PCI:1:0:0 Screen 0 EndSection ---snip--- From this page (http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting) I have been through all the checks and my setup fails on the following:- [rvn] /home/danny# setenv LIBGL_DEBUG verbose [rvn] /home/danny# glxinfo name of display: :0.0 libGL: XF86DRIGetClientDriverName: 5.0.3 r200 (screen 0) libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so libGL error: dlopen /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r200_dri.so: Undefined symbol _glapi_add_entrypoint) libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so The solution (according to the wiki) is to reinstall DRI and LIBGL from source, however, I have reinstalled all the relevant ports but I still get the same problem. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TV Tuner viewing software suggestions
On Sunday 16 April 2006 14:39, Jim Stapleton wrote: I'm trying to use my TV Tuner (A Leadtek Brooktree chipset tuner), and I have gotten FXTV to work great with one exception: It appears to only work in something that looks to be about 320x240, when I go fullscreen or anything larger than what it opens as, it only draws to part of the screen... providing something, that while rather cool looking, is not productive for watching tv or playing console games. I tried getting kbtv to work, but I'm getting an error installing py-kde. If you do so please try version 1.0 from http://freebsd.ricin.com/kbtv (no port yet sorry, use install/deinstall). the one currently in ports is two releases behind. the last of the py-kde compile: c++ -c -Wno-deprecated-declarations -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=athlon-mp -Wall -W -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I../extra/kde350 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -o sipkdecorepart0.o sipkdecorepart0.cpp sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_ZoneMap(void*)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error: `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone)' is private sip/kdecore/ktimezones.sip:209: error: within this context sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezones(sipWrapper*, PyObject*, sipWrapper**)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:340: error: `KTimezones::KTimezones(const KTimezones)' is private sipkdecorepart0.cpp:9497: error: within this context sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `void* init_KTimezone(sipWrapper*, PyObject*, sipWrapper**)': /usr/local/include/ktimezones.h:191: error: `KTimezone::KTimezone(const KTimezone)' is private sipkdecorepart0.cpp:10450: error: within this context sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_KMountPoint_List(void*)': sip/kdecore/kmountpoint.sip:151: warning: taking address of temporary sipkdecorepart0.cpp: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_Display(void*)': sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34478: warning: unused variable 'sipCpp' sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_ulonglong(void*)': sip/kdecore/kconfigbase.sip:307: warning: unused variable 'LongLong' sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip: In function `PyObject* convertFrom_QValueList_2100(void*)': sip/kdecore/kwinmodule.sip:111: warning: unused variable 'inst' sipkdecorepart0.cpp: At global scope: sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipPy' sipkdecorepart0.cpp:34440: warning: unused parameter 'sipIsErr' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122/kdecore. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde/work/PyKDE-snapshot20060122. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-kde. I'm aware of this problem and can now reproduce it (just updated KDE from 3.5.1 to 3.5.2 and now it shows up). I'm looking into it. There's also a new py-kde to be released one of these days, and then I'm planning to update the sip/py-qt/py-kde ports altogether. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 1.5 getting downright irritating
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On April 3, 2006 5:48:34 PM +0100 Danny Butroyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you're editing the wrong file? Or while Firefox is running? Too tight file permissions? Just some thoughts. Here's mine profiles.ini: Or maybe it's KDE.there are several things that, when changed in Xwindows do not change at all. profiles is just one of them. I'll have to investigate some more.. I use Fluxbox and am experiencing exactly the same problem.and yes it is very irritating. If I get anywhere with it I will let post to the list. Or maybe it's Gnome. I'm playing around with Firefox tonight from home, and each time it starts up it asks me if I want to make it the default browser. When I click on Yes, I get this in the terminal window I launched Firefox from: (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. (Gecko:31267): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function. User modifications to the MIME database are no longer supported. I'm going to uninstall Gnome and see what happens. I've had nothing but trouble from it anyway I did this on my last upgrade of Firefox and unfortunately it has not helped. Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portupgrad Problem
Cody Holland wrote: Using FreeBSD 5.4-Stable #0. Trying to update my ports using portsnap, pkg_version, and portupgrade. All goes well until I get to portupgrade -arR. All my ports update except for of them. Here is the message I get: # portupgrade -arR cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/archivers/pear-Archive_Tar cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/pear-Console_Getopt cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_RPC cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/php4-pear ** Package 'php4-pear' has been removed from ports tree. ** Port directory not found: devel/php4-pear ** Package 'pear-Console_Getopt' has been removed from ports tree. ** Port directory not found: devel/pear-Console_Getopt ** Package 'pear-XML_RPC' has been removed from ports tree. ** Port directory not found: devel/pear-XML_RPC ** Package 'pear-Archive_Tar' has been removed from ports tree. ** Port directory not found: archivers/pear-Archive_Tar ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! (php4-pear-4.4.1_1) (port directory error) ! (pear-Console_Getopt-1.2)(port directory error) ! (pear-XML_RPC-1.4.3) (port directory error) ! (pear-Archive_Tar-1.3.1) (port directory error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 73 ignored, 0 skipped and 4 failed I know this is telling me that there is no ports directory for these ports...and there isn't one. I just don't know what to do, to correct this. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. /usr/ports/UPDATING reports the following:- -snip- 20051213: AFFECTS: users of pear ports AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A few old pear ports have been removed from the tree in favor of a single devel/pear port. If portupgrade complains about missing ports, you may safely remove pear-XML_RPC, pear-Console_Getopt, pear-Archive_Tar and php[45]-pear and then run: portupgrade -o devel/pear -f pear-PEAR -snip- Cheers Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 1.5 getting downright irritating
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Monday, April 03, 2006 18:11:25 +0200 Karol Kwiatkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's working here as expected - Don't ask at startup box changes StartWithLastProfile to 0/1 and ProfileManager starts every time if set to 0. I'm using it ever since I installed Firefox 2.0a in addition to 1.5. The machine is running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, Firefox 1.5 and 2.0a, Enlightenment DR17 but I doubt it's related. Maybe you're editing the wrong file? Or while Firefox is running? Too tight file permissions? Just some thoughts. Here's mine profiles.ini: Or maybe it's KDE.there are several things that, when changed in Xwindows do not change at all. profiles is just one of them. I'll have to investigate some more.. I use Fluxbox and am experiencing exactly the same problem.and yes it is very irritating. If I get anywhere with it I will let post to the list. Cheers Danny ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reconfiguring a package
On Sunday 02 April 2006 22:23, Luiz Eduardo Guida Valmont wrote: I'm sorry if this is one of those rtfm cases, but I've exhausted my options so far (except asking for help here ^^). When you make install a package, for some the first thing you get is a screen where you choose some compile-time options that affect the package's dependancies (eg. postgresql support when trying to install amarok). The question is simple: is there a way or a make target that deletes my choices and / or forces make to ask them again? The proper way is to use 'make rmconfig'. Can also be done recursively. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can FreeBSD safely use a (un-booted from) drive that is invisible to the BIOS?
Hi, I have a machine with the following two drives (as listed in dmesg): ad0: 12427MB Maxtor 91303D6 GAS54A12 at ata0-master UDMA33 ad2: 76319MB Maxtor 6L080P0 BAJ41G10 at ata1-master UDMA33 ad0 is the boot drive. It is recognized by the BIOS, obviously, and has been in the machine for some years. ad2 is a new drive I just added to the machine yesterday. It is not visible to the BIOS at all. If anyone can posit a reason it would not be visible to the BIOS, I would like to know the answer. The BIOS supports LBA and ad0 is more than 8GB so it wouldn't appear to be the 8GB limit, and the next limit I am aware of is comfortably larger than 76GB. At any rate ... it is not visible to the BIOS, but it is visible to FreeBSD. Since I'm not booting from the drive, I think it shouldn't matter ... but when I use Fdisk from sysinstall I get the following familiar error message: |WARNING: A geometry of 155061/16/63 for ad2 is incorrect. Using ? ?a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or you ? ?are unsure as to whether or not it's correct, please consult ? ?the Hardware Guide in the Documentation submenu or use the ? ?(G)eometry command to change it now. ? ? ? ?Remember: you need to enter whatever your BIOS thinks the ? ?geometry is! For IDE, it's what you were told in the BIOS ? ?setup. For SCSI, it's the translation mode your controller is ? ?using. Do NOT use a ``physical geometry''.| Since I don't actually know what the BIOS thinks the geometry is, I got cold feet and decided to ask the list. I don't =think= it should matter, since the BIOS shouldn't ever touch the disk, at least as far as my understanding goes. I do have one concern. This drive was purchased more or less to act as an emergency backup of the drive that's already in there. If ad0 ever fails, ad2 drive will have to be put in a new machine whose BIOS recognizes it in order to boot. If I accept the mystery geometry for the drive today, will I later face a problem where the BIOS disagrees and the drive will be unbootable? Thank you for your kind attention. -- Danny MacMillan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can FreeBSD safely use a (un-booted from) drive that is invisible to the BIOS?
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 03:48:57PM -0500, Bob Johnson wrote: On 3/31/06, Danny MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [,,,] ad0 is the boot drive. It is recognized by the BIOS, obviously, and has been in the machine for some years. ad2 is a new drive I just added to the machine yesterday. It is not visible to the BIOS at all. If anyone can posit a reason it would not be visible to the BIOS, I would like to know the answer. The BIOS supports LBA and ad0 is more than 8GB so it wouldn't appear to be the 8GB limit, and the next limit I am aware of is comfortably larger than 76GB. If ad2 were operating as the slave drive without a master on that controller, that could explain it, but that doesn't seem to be what's happening here. ad2 is the only device on the second controller and it is definitely jumpered as master. I also get the same behaviour when the second drive is attached as a slave on the first controller (e.g. as ad1). Interestingly, attaching an ATAPI CD-ROM drive as slave on the first controller works. Are you sure you don't have the second drive disabled in the BIOS somehow? Positive. It's an old BIOS, the options are limited, but it is set to Auto (choices Auto, User, and None). I had a thought and changed the addressing mode from Auto to LBA but it made no difference. The only difference between selecting Auto and None in the BIOS is that when the setting is Auto, the machine hangs at the following and will not boot: Secondary Master: Detecting [Press F4 to skip] At this point, the machine is completely stuck -- pressing F4 does nothing, neither does pressing ctrlaltdel if I recall correctly. I have to power cycle it to get it to do anything. Now that I'm going through this thought process, I have some vague recollection that I used to have a second disk in there, but I had to remove it because it stopped working for some reason -- it exhibited the same hang when detecting the second drive. At the time it didn't occur to me to disable the drive in the BIOS to get the machine to boot and just let FreeBSD access the drive directly. Of course, it doesn't speak favourably to the reliability of the hardware. [...] Since I don't actually know what the BIOS thinks the geometry is, I got cold feet and decided to ask the list. I don't =think= it should matter, since the BIOS shouldn't ever touch the disk, at least as far as my understanding goes. FreeBSD uses BIOS routines to start the boot process, then uses its own idea of what's on the disk. So, as far as I know, you will only have a problem if they are different enough to either cause the boot process to fail, or on a dual boot system, to cause Windows to think the partitions are in different places than does FreeBSD, or if your BIOS is picky about the partition table. A few years ago I started ignoring that message and it's worked for me. I just let sysinstall do what it wants (I believe I started that practice when a bug in sysinstall gave me no choice). I *think* that with modern block addressed, i/o buffered disks, on which the physical geometry is an illusion anyway, the only real problem you can run into is different ideas of the total size of the disk, i.e. where the last usable block is. One geometry might give you a few megabytes more than another geometry, but the difference is at the end of the disk. That isn't going to have any effect on booting (assuming the BIOS is willing to start the boot process), and not likely to even be a problem when dual booting. I generally ignore the warning, too. My only concern this time is that in a case where the drive is visible to the BIOS, at least if I get it spectacularly wrong I will find out right away. Also the question of whether different BIOSes will assign the same geometry to the drive. I do have one concern. This drive was purchased more or less to act as an emergency backup of the drive that's already in there. If ad0 ever fails, ad2 drive will have to be put in a new machine whose BIOS recognizes it in order to boot. If I accept the mystery geometry for the drive today, will I later face a problem where the BIOS disagrees and the drive will be unbootable? If my understanding is correct, it is unlikely to cause a problem, but it might. The BIOS routines will still be able to read the first few sectors to start the boot process. If your BIOS is so picky that it notices that the partition table claims to use bytes beyond what it thinks is the end of the disk (or some other imagined offense), and refuses to boot, then you might have a problem. I've seen such picky BIOSes, but not for several years. I think (hope) that manufacturers are learning that quibbling over such things doesn't make the system better. If you were to change the geometry settings of a disk after you put a filesystem on it, you would likely trigger other issues, but that's not what you're asking
Re: HP OfficeJet 4215 Scanner question
On Friday 31 March 2006 02:45, M. Warner Losh wrote: [[ please CC me on any reply, I'm not on this list ]] Greetings, I was wondering if anybody had any luck getting an HP OfficeJet 4125 working on FreeBSD. I plugged it into my 6.1-beta4 system, and it was recognized as a printer. However, my attempts to get sane to access the scanner portion have have failed. What am I doing worng? It looks like I might need the hpijs for printing, but I need hplip for scanning. The hpijs appears to be a FreeSBD port, but I don't see a hplip port. Is there one? Is this what I need? Is there something else that would work? Warner P.S. Keywords for searches: Office Jet OfficeJet Series 4200 xsane You tried the hpoj port? It uses the ptal low level driver and cups for printing, others for scanning or faxing or photo camera flash card. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
