Sendmail masquerading breaks local mail delivery
Hello, Because of a bizarre email topology that exists at an office I have a 5.3 machine installed at, I have recently configured sendmail to masquerade the hostname of outgoing mail to drop the machine name part. This is in bert.coremedicalsolutions.com.submit.mc: divert(-1) # Comments... divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`$FreeBSD: src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.submit.mc,v 1.1 2003/10/19 00:03:13 gshapiro Exp $') define(`confCF_VERSION', `Submit')dnl define(`__OSTYPE__',`')dnl dirty hack to keep proto.m4 from complaining define(`_USE_DECNET_SYNTAX_', `1')dnl support DECnet define(`confTIME_ZONE', `USE_TZ')dnl define(`confDONT_INIT_GROUPS', `True')dnl define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBroken')dnl dnl dnl If you use IPv6 only, change [127.0.0.1] to [IPv6:::1] MASQUERADE_AS(coremedicalsolutions.com)dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]')dnl As a result of this, though, all the periodic mails and the output from cron are now (I gather) having the local hostname stripped, and being sent off to the MX-listed mailer for the wider domain at an ISP. How do I get local mail delivered locally, while still masquerading the domain name for non-local mail? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpWvXb9rn6qy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail masquerading breaks local mail delivery
Hi Charles, On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:53:55PM -0400, Charles Swiger wrote: On May 3, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: This is in bert.coremedicalsolutions.com.submit.mc: I'm not convinced it's a good idea to do MASQUERADE'ing in the submit.mc, use the normal sendmail.mc file for the MTA, not the MSA. Every time I think I have a handle on Sendmail, I go and do something like this. Moving the masquerading to the local version of sendmail.mc was sufficient to fix the problem. Thanks. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgph3BexgPzKo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using PPPoE
Hello, On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:04:14AM -0300, Alexandre Vasconcelos wrote: default: set log phase chat connect lcp ipcp tun command set ifaddr 10.0.0.140/32 0.0.0.0/0 brtelecom: set device PPPoE:sis0 set authname myusername set authkey mypassword set dial set login add default HISADDR Presumably this is a cut-and-paste artefact, but the space in column one of non-label lines is significant. I assume it's correct in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, since you seem to be getting somewhere according to ppp.log. Also, some ISPs need a 'provider' name after the interface name (e.g. ' set device PPPoE:sis0:internode'). Again, this may not be your problem, but might be worth checking. When I run ppp -ddial brt modem lights start to blink, but ifconfig shows interface tun0 without any IP address and /var/log/ppp.log shows: Again, presumably just a typo, but you'd need to run 'ppp -ddial brtelecom'. Anyway, start with interactive mode. Just run 'ppp' and then 'dial brtelecom' at the prompt. 'man ppp' describes how the prompt changes to indicate how far you're getting in the connection process. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ppp]# tail -f /var/log/ppp.log Apr 12 01:13:01 alex ppp[9723]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Apr 12 01:13:04 alex ppp[9723]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(112) state = Initial Apr 12 01:13:04 alex ppp[9723]: tun0: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 200.103.98.174 Apr 12 01:13:04 alex ppp[9723]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: Oops, RCR in Initial. Apr 12 01:13:07 alex ppp[9723]: tun0: IPCP: deflink: I presume this means you're getting as far as IPCP. Can you post a log for a whole connection attempt? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpr3s2LyUbJ0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using PPPoE
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:28:11AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is described in detail in the FreeBSD Install book at http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/ Do you mean here? http://freebsd.easyasthat.co.uk/05.08-PPPoE_ppp.htm The content there looks only marginally different to the Handbook which the OP has already read. (In fact, some of the text looks even less than marginally different to the Handbook---for example, start reading at, Sometimes it will be necessary to use a) Is that you, Joe? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpWlSoOhCnmw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using PPPoE
On Thu, Apr 14, 2005 at 08:40:18AM -0300, Alexandre Vasconcelos wrote: It's working now! Commenting 'set ifaddr' line and seting ifconfig_ppp0=DHCP, This surprises me, since you shouldn't have a ppp0 interface, and PPPoE doesn't use DHCP to supply IP addresses. ppp_enable, ppp_mode, ppp_profile on /etc/rc.conf did the job. And this should only affect automatic startup at boot-time. Everything you've changed here should have no effect on running ppp from the command line. But I'm glad it worked. :-) -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpMouEooXBaq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hyper threading.
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 11:45:21PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Where can I see the measurements? Here are some measurements. A few weeks ago I ran Unixbench 4.1.0 (/usr/ports/benchmarks/unixbench) on a P4 2.8GHz with and without hyperthreading enabled. I note a slight difference in the 10 minute load average in favour of the uniprocessor run (0.00 vs 0.10 in the hyperthreading run), though I doubt this alone could account for a 15% difference in total score. Uniprocessor run: - BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1.0) System -- bigbird.logicsquad.net Start Benchmark Run: Sun Feb 20 08:23:08 CST 2005 14 interactive users. 8:23AM up 3 days, 14:37, 14 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 105624 Feb 12 00:09 /bin/sh /bin/sh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 5.3-CURRENT (rev 1), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 164607432 5190146 146248692 3%/usr Dhrystone 2 using register variables 4438000.0 lps (10.0 secs, 10 samples) Double-Precision Whetstone 786.2 MWIPS (10.4 secs, 10 samples) System Call Overhead 387391.7 lps (10.0 secs, 10 samples) Pipe Throughput 595757.1 lps (10.0 secs, 10 samples) Pipe-based Context Switching 94343.7 lps (10.0 secs, 10 samples) Process Creation 5143.3 lps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) Execl Throughput 1127.4 lps (29.9 secs, 3 samples) File Read 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks637932.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Write 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks86241.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 84790.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Read 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 182188.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Write 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 83127.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 53860.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks1662218.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Write 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks47821.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 47003.0 KBps (30.0 secs, 3 samples) Shell Scripts (1 concurrent) 2584.9 lpm (60.0 secs, 3 samples) Shell Scripts (8 concurrent)353.3 lpm (60.0 secs, 3 samples) Shell Scripts (16 concurrent) 177.0 lpm (60.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = short) 687842.3 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = int) 697114.1 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = long)697313.5 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = float) 658678.8 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithmetic Test (type = double) 658663.3 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) Arithoh 14359071.4 lps (10.0 secs, 3 samples) C Compiler Throughput 1373.3 lpm (60.0 secs, 3 samples) Dc: sqrt(2) to 99 decimal places 161336.3 lpm (30.0 secs, 3 samples) Recursion Test--Tower of Hanoi98086.8 lps (20.0 secs, 3 samples) INDEX VALUES TESTBASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables116700.0 4438000.0 380.3 Double-Precision Whetstone 55.0 786.2 142.9 Execl Throughput43.0 1127.4 262.2 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 3960.084790.0 214.1 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1655.053860.0 325.4 File Copy 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 5800.047003.0 81.0 Pipe Throughput 12440.0 595757.1 478.9 Pipe-based Context Switching 4000.094343.7 235.9 Process Creation 126.0 5143.3 408.2 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 6.0 353.3 588.8 System Call Overhead 15000.0 387391.7 258.3 = FINAL SCORE 270.4 Hyperthreading run: --- BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1.0) System -- bigbird.logicsquad.net Start Benchmark Run: Sun Feb 20 17:22:33 CST 2005 2 interactive users. 5:22PM up 2 mins, 2 users, load averages: 0.31, 0.23, 0.10 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 105624 Feb 12 00:09 /bin/sh /bin/sh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 5.3-CURRENT (rev 1), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped /dev/mirror/gm0s1f 164607432 5264584 146174254 3%/usr Dhrystone 2 using register variables 4463262.0 lps (10.0 secs, 10 samples) Double-Precision Whetstone 785.8 MWIPS
Re: hyper threading.
Hello, On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 03:54:06PM -0800, John Pettitt wrote: Paul A. Hoadley wrote: I note a slight difference in the 10 minute load average in favour of the uniprocessor run (0.00 vs 0.10 in the hyperthreading run), though I doubt this alone could account for a 15% difference in total score. Notice the HT run had load on the box (0.31) when it started. If you're going to run benchmarks you need to start with a clean reboot before each run and make sure all the background daemons have been killed and and the load is zero. You are absolutely right, and I did note the difference in load averages. I'm not making any claims---someone asked for measurements, and I happened to have these handy. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpvaZGNUOBes.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: First Time Experience-FreeBSD/i368 login:
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 04:02:03PM +1100, Johaness Terra wrote: The server, I understand is a proxy mail server running on FreeBSD/i386. I am new and the management wants me to add a new email account user on the server. I am really having a hard time and would very much appreciate any simple assistance. I am now stucked at FreeBSD/i386 (proxy.mrdc.com.pg) (ttyvo) Login: Please assist. I would very much appreciate The system is waiting for you to type a username. If you have one, type it in and hit Return. The system will then prompt you for your password. Again, type it in (it won't appear on the screen) and press Return. If you don't have one, you can't proceed any further. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpJ6qkd1TdOe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:56:01PM -0800, Luke wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? For a domain name to be effective, you need a public and highly referenced source to map your name to your IP address. You certainly need a DNS server. That's what these public registrars do. The registrar certainly puts an NS record in the top-level zone file. Beyond that, some of them no doubt provide nameservice for an extra fee, or are associated with some DNS provider. But registration of the name and provision of DNS are separate issues. You want them to map your name to your address. You can't move that service to your own box because... well.. how would anybody find you in the first place? While your conclusion might be true for the OP (we have established elsewhere that he almost certainly can't do what he was hoping he could), it's not about being able to find his machine. If he fulfilled the technical requirements (static IP addresses, more than one host providing DNS), he certainly could point the world at his own box by nominating it, and another, as the namerservers with his registrar. Technically you can do SOME of the domain service yourself if you're running a network. Public DNS servers might get them to yourdomain.com, and then you could direct them to machine1.yourdomain.com, machine2.yourdomain.com, etc. but you probably don't have any need for something like that at home. Unless you're describing port redirection of some kind, you're describing the OP doing his own DNS. I think we've ruled that out. You can run your own DNS service to do lookups for yourself though, and it's a fun way to learn about how the global system works. Check out the sections of the FreeBSD Handbook on BIND. Running DNS for a small network in my home was pretty educational for me. I agree. Running BIND on your own network is a good exercise. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? Sending isn't the problem. You can send from just about any port you want. It's receiving that's the problem. When a mail server tries to deliver mail to mynewdomain.com, it's going to be looking for your mail server on port 25, because that's the standard. It's just like how your web browser always goes looking for a web server on port 80 when you contact another machine. Unless there's some trick you can do with the MX records for your domain to advertise to the world that your mail server is running on a nonstandard port, There is no such trick. I don't know how you could get around the receiving problem if your ISP blocks incoming connections to port 25, short of having some external service like those you've mentioned cache the mail for you. As an aside, are there still ISPs that do this? How draconian. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgplm4gSER3KN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:52:08PM -0500, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. I assume both of those services are dynamic DNS providers, and I'll assume your cable provider gives you a dynamic IP address. Dynamic DNS providers don't provide you with a static IP, but rather nameservice for your domain. The provider will nominate some subset of their nameservers for you to register (with the registrar that sold you the domain name) as providing DNS for your new domain. The idea is that whenever your IP address changes, you contact the dynamic DNS provider (in some provider-specific way---e.g., a web form, a local script) to update your A record. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? Almost certainly not, for two reasons. You need a static IP address to lodge with your registrar. (I guess it would be _possible_ to manually update the address with your registrar every time it changes, but quite impractical.) Further, you need to provide at least two nameservers for your domain. Again, it is _possible_ that you could personally provide one, and use a DNS provider as a secondary. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? Not unless you solve all of the problems above, and then discuss the issue with your ISP---since they own the IP address, they run the corresponding part of the in-addr.arpa zone, and the specific PTR record you will require. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This you'll be able to do. You need to add an MX record to your zone file at the dynamic DNS provider. You would want mail sent to the host named in the A record. I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? If _your_ ISP blocks port 25, then you'll have to do _something_ to get around that, but I don't know if that particular service is the right solution. Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? There's certainly nothing _intrinsically_ special about port 25. However, it's the port that everyone's agreed to send mail to. If your sendmail was listening on port 8080, how would my sendmail know? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpR2UnYYJN77.pgp Description: PGP signature
Silicon Image SiI 3114 SATA RAID on ASUS P5GD2 Deluxe
Hello, Is anyone using the Silicon Image SiI 3114 controller on an ASUS P5GD2 Deluxe motherboard? AFAICS, FreeBSD 5.3 supports the controller, but I can't seem to get the installer to see the SATA RAID 1 array that I set up using the BIOS. The only disks in the system are two identical 200G Seagate drives, and I used the in-ROM Silicon Image setup utility to create a RAID 1 array with them. When I boot using a 5.3 installation CD, it sees the SiI 3114 controller, but then presents me with ad4 and ad6 as separate drives. It seems my problem is much like the one described here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2004-September/002082.html However, despite using atacontrol as described, I could not get ar0 to persist across a reboot. Is anyone using this particular motherboard? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpbT8J1TTzpG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Onboard GigE on ASUS P5GD2 Deluxe
Hello, My ASUS P5GD2 Deluxe has an onboard GigE NIC: Marvell 88E8053 PCI Express Gigabit LAN controller I have installed 5.3-RELEASE from an installation CD, and the supplied GENERIC kernel does not seem to detect it. Shouldn't the sk driver handle this NIC? Does anyone else have this motherboard? (I am starting to regret the purchase, as I am still struggling with the Silicon Image SATA RAID controller.) -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpZ6qso19bX7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
[I didn't realise Joe's question was Cc'd to the list. I replied privately days ago.] On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 09:28:43PM +, Joe Kraft wrote: have you found out any more about why it's not working? I'm also curious about the entry in mailertable because my feeble attempt didn't work. Adding this to /etc/mail/mailertable: coremedicalsolutions.comesmtp:[192.168.10.70] and running 'make maps' was all I needed to do. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpAiiADn60Dg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 05:03:05PM -0500, Niy wrote: Just a quick thought, I had a similar problem on my LAN. I set up /etc/hosts files, and that did the trick for me. This was one of the first things I tried. It didn't work in the particular situation I described. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpwfqeVUuTP2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
Hi, Firstly, thanks for the comprehensive reply. On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 04:06:32AM +0100, J65nko BSD wrote: It could be that the MS Windows DNS server, which is derived from/patterned after named or however you want to call it, suffers from a similar defect. Being not familiar with the MS DNS server, you could find out whether it it possible to disable IPV6. BIND has this option. Interesting. I did wonder whether disabling IPv6 in the Windows DNS server was possible---it was going to be something I looked at, but I stopped investigating once I found a workaround. RE: resolving unqualified hostnames Thanks for the information and examples. RE: .ns.chariot.net.au. and ns2.chariot.net.au. Thanks for the information. The problem I originally described, of course, is unrelated to these nameservers. I never made it quite clear enough in my original post, but the trouble I was having was with an internal view of our domain namespace. I'll let Chariot know their nameservers are broken. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgppmCLCVN78n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
Hi Chuck, On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:57:58PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: That hostname gets an NXDOMAIN failure from here: Sorry, I should have been more explicit in the original: the nameserver in question is serving a private LAN in the 192.168 space. I have actually solved the problem. I intend to post a summary for the archive when I return to the site later in the week, at which time I'll be able to identify the OS/nameserver combination at fault. Here's a teaser, though: it's a Microsoft product (I just don't know which), and it's returing SERVFAIL status for a record query. Curiously, sendmail's WorkAroundBroken option did not help, and I don't know why. Daryl Tester suggested using a mailertable entry, and this worked. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpPZIlteEIvd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
Hello, On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:32:58AM +1030, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: I have a series of mails in the queue, failing on delivery attempts like this: Dec 16 11:19:08 bert sendmail[1043]: iBF403Wb004664: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=20:49:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=4770661, relay=tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Name server: tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.: host name lookup failure I remain stumped here. The sending host, the LAN's DNS server and the LAN's mail hub all have forward and reverse DNS entries. It's not at all clear to me what sendmail is complaining about. I had hoped to give sendmail another try after many years, but in desperation I am compiling qmail as I type this... :-) -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure
Hi Robert, On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:27:40PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: I was totally confused ... until I did ps -ax | grep named and found an unrequested -t /var/named at the end of the command line. So what's that about? -t causes named to run chrooted, per entry 20040928. That's not according to spec. My spec, anyway. Killed named, restarted with only approved command line, restarted all affected programs ... and life was good again. Thanks for the suggestion. The name server is running on a different machine on the LAN, though. It's not FreeBSD, and (AFAIK) no change since the upgrade to the problem machine. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpHk9HFJCvsM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Sendmail: host name lookup failure
Hello, I have just upgraded a machine from 5.2.1 to 5.3, and I think I _may_ have stomped on something in /etc/mail during mergemaster. The symptom is this: mail to other machines on the LAN worked yesterday, and is broken after the upgrade. Mail to the wider Internet continues to work. I have a series of mails in the queue, failing on delivery attempts like this: Dec 16 11:19:08 bert sendmail[1043]: iBF403Wb004664: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1001/1001), delay=20:49:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=4770661, relay=tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Name server: tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.: host name lookup failure Running sendmail on the queue in verbose mode gives this: Running /var/spool/mqueue/iBG097Eq000666 (sequence 1 of 118) [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Connecting to tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. via esmtp... [long pause] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: Name server: tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.: host name lookup failure Running /var/spool/mqueue/iBFNpkMQ052047 (sequence 2 of 118) [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: Name server: tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.: host name lookup failure [...] There are numerous hits from Google on very similar issues, but almost all the solutions point at DNS problems. If there is a local DNS issue, I can't find it. dig coremedicalsolutions.com. mx [...] coremedicalsolutions.com. 3600 IN MX 10 tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. [...] tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. 900 INA 192.168.10.69 dig -x 192.168.10.69 [...] 69.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa. 900 IN PTR tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. dig bert.coremedicalsolutions.com. [...] bert.coremedicalsolutions.com. 900 IN A 192.168.10.78 dig -x 192.168.10.78 [...] 78.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa. 900 IN PTR bert.coremedicalsolutions.com. That is, both the originating machine (bert) and the receiver (tsb) have forward and backward DNS entries. Can anyone suggest the next step in diagnosing this? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpqiM3FS72gp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating CHM files
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 08:00:10PM +0800, h0444lp6 wrote: I am desperately searching for a tool to create CHM Help Files. The only HTML Help compiler that I know of is Microsoft's own: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/htmlhelp/html/hworiHTMLHelpStartPage.asp or: http://tinyurl.com/6ejdu Does there exist an Open Source tool? Not that I know of. The Microsoft compiler is a free download, though. Naturally, it's a Windows application. Did you post to this list because you need to run it under FreeBSD? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpk9kZIQJzfm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 02:22:02PM -0700, Pat Lashley wrote: Could you create a user to get them; and give that user a procmail (or similar) delivery-time script to file them into subdirs based on some arbitrary characteristic? Sounds feasible. The sheer volume has overwhelmed me, though, and now I'm just throwing them out. Just FYI, Exim, with the ExiScan patches, can reject at SMTP time; and also has a 'fakereject' capability which tells the sender that the message has been rejected; but actually delivers it. Thanks for the info. I have been thinking of changing MTAs for a while. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpHzYz6Anj4V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
Hello, On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 11:56:10AM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote: I don't know how committed to qmail you are, but Exim will do this out of the box. I'm pretty sure it's part of the default config file. With the exim+exiscan patches (available from ports) you can get even more creative and integrate virus scanning, SpamAssassin, etc. with very little effort. Thanks. I have been thinking of changing MTAs for a while. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpABygqhYvTm.pgp Description: PGP signature
find -exec surprisingly slow
Hello, I'm in the process of cleaning a Maildir full of spam. It has somewhere in the vicinity of 400K files in it. I started running this yesterday: find . -atime +1 -exec mv {} /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ \; It's been running for well over 12 hours. It certainly is working---the spams are slowly moving to their new home---but it is taking a long time. It's a very modest system, running 4.8-R on a P2-350. I assume this is all overhead for spawning a shell and running mv 400K times. Is there a better way to move all files based on some characteristic of their date stamp? Maybe separating the find and the move, piping it through xargs? It's mostly done now, but I will know better for next time. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpSUuXfsftAF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 01:32:35AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: You seem to have missed the fact that operations on very large directories (which a directory with 400K files in it certainly qualifies as) simply are slow. Good point. I had overlooked that. Reducing the number of processes spawned will certainly help some, but a better idea is to not have so many files in a single directory - that is just asking for trouble. I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else. These are spams sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by .qmail-default. What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily instead of monthly, though. Collecting them has become a significant drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month and a half of collection. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 12:39:33AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: find . -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0 -J % mv % /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ xargs defaults to taking up to 5,000 arguments from it's stdin to generate the mv commands (or up to ARG_MAX - 4096 = 61440 bytes), so that would have done the job with only 8 or so invocations of mv. Thanks for that. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:11:54PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Where is '.' in the above `find .' command? Is it is on the same partition as /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ ? You may find it much faster to do something like: mkdir usermail.new chown user:group usermail.new mv usermail usermail.bigspam mv usermail.new usermail cd usermail.bigspam find . \! -atime +1 -exec mv {} ../usermail \; My assumption there is that you have a LOT fewer good files than you have bad files, so there will be fewer files to move. But I am also making the assumption that all your files are in a single directory (and not a tree of directories), which may be a bad assumption. All assumptions correct, and that is what I should have done. The thing to use is the '-J' option of xargs. That way you can have the destination-directory be the last argument in the command that gets executed, and yet you're still moving as many files in a single `mv' command as possible. E.g., change my earlier `find' command to: find . \! -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0J[] mv [] ../usermail Check the man page for xargs for a description of -J Will do. Thanks for the tip. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgp2CrTPBrx7j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
Hello, On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 09:13:32PM -0500, Gary wrote: P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else. These are spams P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by P .qmail-default. Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If you have proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not necessary at all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just to drop mail coming in to .qmail-default, just put a # in it... Good question---without context, my claim that I can do nothing else seems wrong. What I should have said is given I have an interest in collecting all the spams to non-existent addresses, I don't think I can make qmail do anything other than deliver it to the new/ subdir of a Maildir. The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address. I'm getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every day. IMHO, these messages should be _rejected_ at the SMTP session, though (AFAICS) qmail won't do this (without being patched). (I am sure I once read a security justification for this behaviour, though I can't seem to find any justification for it at all now. I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but IMHO, accepting these messages is bogus behaviour.) Anyway, I was about to embark on tracking down a patch to do SMTP-level rejection, when I decided I would just funnel them into a Maildir and use them later to train Bogofilter, or whatever. P What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily P instead of monthly, though. Collecting them has become a significant P drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month P and a half of collection. I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them in. I may soon change my mind, though my original plan was to put the spam to use. The sheer volume looks like making that plan unworkable. :-) There are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation all together, so they don't even enter your system... Techniques for qmail? Without patching it? I thought I had RTFMd pretty thoroughly, but I am willing to be enlightened. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpddP9ABOTcL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re[2]: find -exec surprisingly slow
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:27:29PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: I have to second this. You should never accept email destin for users that don't exist, you should bounce it with a 5xx error prior to even accepting the data portion of the SMTP transmission. I agree completely. I can't see how to make qmail do this, though---have I overlooked something? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpb5BPEDk8I7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
Hello, On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:01:47PM -0700, stheg olloydson wrote: What I would do is avoid the problem in the first place by not having a .qmail-default. Without a .qmail-default, qmail's default behaviour is to _accept_ the message and then _bounce_ it. IMHO, this is _worse_ than (a) saving the spam (which (I had hoped!) might be useful in other contexts), or (b) piping it to the bit bucket. Both (a) and (b) require a .qmail-default. Have I overlooked something really obvious here? Is there a way (preferably without patching it) to get qmail to _reject_ the mail sent to non-existent addresses? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpm0Fusalxmw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: find -exec surprisingly slow
Hi Gary, On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:25:46PM -0500, Gary wrote: Most are patches, and very good. I use Eben Pratt's goodrcptto personally on my own server, and some that I have built for others (gives me control for accepting mail from lists only for those lists that do not subscribe via envelope sender, such as this one)... there are several to choose from http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#smtp-reject which will lead you here.. http://netdevice.com/qmail/rcptck/ Thanks. I was fairly sure it couldn't be done without patching. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgp2BwCrcOiIX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Some Simple Questions
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 09:28:16PM -0700, Spuds wrote: 1) Is FreeBSD truly free, as in I don't have to pay for it and can download it at no charge or is FreeBSD just a name? Yes, it is truly free. You can download it at no charge. 3) Is FreeBSD compatible with Linux software? I believe I read that somewhere. Yes, you can run Linux binaries. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html 4) Can FreeBSD run on a laptop that is hardware compatible, as I know some OS's cannot run on laptops but can on desktops? FreeBSD runs on laptops. I skipped the SCO question. I've lost interest. Greg Lehey has a comprehensive page on the issue: http://www.lemis.com/grog/sco.html -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpxSKq9kmaD9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL: implications for FreeBSD-on-hardware for sale?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 07:58:15AM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: Paul A. Hoadley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe some more specifics would be helpful. The application is a web application. It may or may not end up open source, but it will be for sale, and I don't want it to inherit a restrictive license. Even BSD licenses are restrictive, By restrictive, I mean a license that forces itself onto other code, whether by way of the other code being a derivative work, using the licensed code, or just sitting on the same distribution medium. The main issue here is simply that I don't _necessarily_ want to distribute source code to the application. (Of course, if the code remains largely PHP, I'll essentially be doing that anyway.) I don't want the decision to be pre-made just by interacting with other software. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
GPL: implications for FreeBSD-on-hardware for sale?
Hello, For a certain niche market, I am considering selling a software application by pre-installing it on a small machine running FreeBSD, and then selling the whole thing. Are there any implications arising from the GPL (or other more-restrictive-than-BSD licensed) code in the tree? Would it be arguable that I was, in fact, selling only the hardware and my own software application, and giving away the (GPL- and BSD-licensed) open source software for free? I presume that the GPL would require me to at least make the source code of the GPL-covered parts of FreeBSD available on request (Section 3(b)), given that I would not be including the FreeBSD source code (it simply wouldn't be required) in the installation. This bridge must have been crossed before. Does anyone have any experience here? -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL: implications for FreeBSD-on-hardware for sale?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 09:46:29AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: There's no problem with selling GPL'd programs for money. As the cant goes Free speech, not free beer. I guess I'm interpreting Section 1 too restrictively then. I took You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy to be fairly limiting on the magnitude of this fee. I guess it's not then. All you have to do to comply with the GPL is make available the sources to the software you're using to your customers, or let them know how they can retrieve them from a third party. In this case, probably just pointing them in the direction of the FreeBSD servers would be sufficient. OK. If you're dead against redistributing GPL'd stuff, you'll find it difficult to produce a completely GPL-free setup: removing things like the C compiler and gdb and texinfo is easy enough, but such things as readline and the regex libraries are harder to deal with. I'm not against it. I just want to make sure I get the specifics of the license exactly right. :-) Thanks a lot for your input, Matthew. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL: implications for FreeBSD-on-hardware for sale?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 01:55:23AM -0700, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Your own proprietary binaries you can distribute along side the GPL and BSD code, provided you don't have GPL code within your programs. It can all be bundled together as long as you have licensing, copyrights and required source as part of the package (or possibly available, but not part of the package). Thanks for that. Again, then, I think I was interpreting the text of the license too restrictively---obviously my own code does not become a derivative work just because it's sitting on the same disk. (Not sure why I thought it would.) Thanks for the input, Cory. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GPL: implications for FreeBSD-on-hardware for sale?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:04:46AM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: We all use loose language like that, but a software seller should keep in mind that usually he's really doing two things: publishing (or at least distributing) copies of the software and licensing use of the software. The GPL seems to permit charging anything for the publishing (but see clause 3b for an exception) while prohibiting any charge for the licensing (but see the clauses which require fees in the form of cross-licensing some derivative works). I have no idea how it's legally permissible to say that your one bundle price only applies to the publishing and not the licensing, but I've never heard that any publishers or licensors worry about it. Now this is more like the kind of complexity I was expecting. :-) Also remember that not only the chunks of software like readline carry licensed and sub-licensable copyrights, but that your arrangment of the chunks as the collection that you publish (your product) is copyrightable, and a careful buyer will want a license for that too, which must (per the GPL) be compatible with the GPL. (The GPL does, of course, allow distribution with closed-source software. I think the GPL's further restrictions clause should be a problem here, but I'm not aware that any GPL licensor has complained about any further restrictions in such kinds of GPL derivatives as your product will be.) Maybe some more specifics would be helpful. The application is a web application. It may or may not end up open source, but it will be for sale, and I don't want it to inherit a restrictive license. It uses some PHP (Open Publication License), is served by Apache (Apache Software License), and is backed by PostgreSQL (BSD license). Currently I'm using a PHP template engine called Smarty (LGPL). Here, my application would be a 'work that uses the library'. So I don't think my application is a derivative work of any of these. Would it be arguable that I was, in fact, selling only the hardware and my own software application, and giving away the (GPL- and BSD-licensed) open source software for free? I'll have to refer you to a lawyer. Maybe it depends upon what the sales contract says. Maybe not. Or maybe if you have no right to sell licenses for a fee, then it's implied that you're not selling it. I'll have to look into it further. But it's easy to get too wrapped up in worrying about technicalities that most people seem happy to ignore. Excellent point. :-) (But, then, I don't want to be a test case either. :-) Good question; I've not seen this bundling issued discussed before. It must have arisen somewhere---people have done this before. I'll search harder... Thanks for the input, Gary. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'Partial' X upgrade, now locked out of X server
On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 05:03:09PM +0200, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: It looks like I have upgraded parts of XFree86 while installing some other ports, and I now seem unable to make even local connections to my X server. I must admit, X is something I set up years ago on this machine, and have just set and forgot---as such, I do not even have a good appreciation for what information might be useful for people to help me debug this. I guess the best idea would be to have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html and try how far you get on your own. Also you should save your old XF86Config somewhere. It's syntax has changed from XFree86-3 to XFree86-4, but probably you will be able to recognize most important settings. Thanks. I did bite the bullet and make the XFree86-4 port. I had originally wondered whether I could get away with the hybrid, but there didn't seem to be much point. While I am keen to get suggestions on how to correct this access control glitch, I would be happy to fully upgrade X if that's recommended. Somewhat embarrassingly, I'm not even sure how this should be done---via ports? Either via /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 or pkg_add -r XFree86-4 Thanks Uli. I wasn't sure whether that port would install everything correctly in the standard places, but, of course, it does. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
'Partial' X upgrade, now locked out of X server
Hello, It looks like I have upgraded parts of XFree86 while installing some other ports, and I now seem unable to make even local connections to my X server. I must admit, X is something I set up years ago on this machine, and have just set and forgot---as such, I do not even have a good appreciation for what information might be useful for people to help me debug this. The machine was originally running one of the early 4.X releases, and that is when X was installed. It's now running 4.8. The following have been installed recently: drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 26 01:28 XFree86-clients-4.3.0_6/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 26 01:29 XFree86-fontEncodings-4.3.0/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Feb 26 01:30 XFree86-fontScalable-4.3.0/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 28 19:36 XFree86-libraries-4.3.0_6/ I usually login via xdm, started as root with 'xdm -nodaemon '. I am currently unable to log in as a non-root user, and I get the following in ~/.xsession-errors when I try: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server twm: unable to open display :0 I presume this has something to do with access control, but I've never needed to set up anything for local access before. While I am keen to get suggestions on how to correct this access control glitch, I would be happy to fully upgrade X if that's recommended. Somewhat embarrassingly, I'm not even sure how this should be done---via ports? -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Anti Virus Software
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 01:11:59PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also i was wondering too if there are any recommendations for a good AV/spam combo for email running qmail courier/imap? Have a look at this article: http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/qmail-scanner-how-to.html It was getting old (describing some installation procedures for applications which, at the time, had no ports) and I updated it just a few days ago. I removed the parts describing manual installation and replaced them with pointers to the various ports. I have not actually tested the current version of the article from top to bottom, so I would be interested to hear about bugs if you try it. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Logitech Quickcam Express USB
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 06:11:40AM -0500, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: i expect that FreeBSD team do something about this I think that its a bad idea try to find the solution with Linux reverse engineering The problem is that Logitech hasn't released the details on how to communicate with the device. There's not much anyone can do about that. I suspect the difficulty you'll have in getting the 'FreeBSD team [to] do something about this' is that it's just not a very interesting problem---there are other cameras around with open specifications. Certainly I gave up on the QuickCam in pretty short order and just got another camera. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logitech Quickcam Express USB
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote: I have installed FreeBSD 5.2 release in my PC and i need to know if exist a port that let me use my quickcam. cqcam and gnomemeeting don't work. what should i do? Last time I checked (over 12 months ago, admittedly) the short answer was no. There were some Linux reverse engineering attempts (the interface is not public), and reports scattered about the web regarding limited success with these drivers under NetBSD and FreeBSD, but I personally never got anything working. Check Google---things may have changed. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spam removal
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:44:25AM -0500, matthew wrote: I recommend bogofilter for per-user filtering. Spamassassin is also highly recommended for site use. I tend to dislike DNS-based filtering because it has a high rate of false positives, and it causes your users to lose legitimate mail if it's rejected at the mail server. As far as I understand it, one does not lose email using dns-based blacklists. Sure you can. If Alice wants to legitimately contact Bob from a blacklisted IP (whether the blacklisting is actually Alice's fault, or she's just fallen under an excessively large blanket), and Bob is running DNS-based filtering, Bob's MTA blocks Alice based on her IP. Bob loses legitimate mail. Admittedly you provided a counterexample, but it is not always so easy. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spam removal
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 01:33:32AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I recommend bogofilter for per-user filtering. Spamassassin is also highly recommended for site use. I'll second both. SpamAssassin worked well for me for several years, but I recently changed from SA to bogofilter because SA just wasn't keeping up with the latest craze of random word spams. Fortunately, I had a 26,000-spam corpus with which to train bogofilter, so it's already working quite well. It seems to be learning the random word spams gradually. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spam removal
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 05:57:29AM -0500, matthew wrote: On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 04:44:25AM -0500, matthew wrote: I recommend bogofilter for per-user filtering. Spamassassin is also highly recommended for site use. I tend to dislike DNS-based filtering because it has a high rate of false positives, and it causes your users to lose legitimate mail if it's rejected at the mail server. As far as I understand it, one does not lose email using dns-based blacklists. Sure you can. If Alice wants to legitimately contact Bob from a blacklisted IP (whether the blacklisting is actually Alice's fault, or she's just fallen under an excessively large blanket), and Bob is running DNS-based filtering, Bob's MTA blocks Alice based on her IP. Bob loses legitimate mail. We have different opinions on what it means to lose email. Perhaps. An email is lost when no error message is returned to the sender and the email never gets to its intended recipient. The latter may occur whether the former occurs or not. Charles wants to email Bob about something that's, say, important to Bob but not that important to Charles. Bob's MTA has Charles as blacklisted. Let's imagine that Charles gets a bounce notification, but it doesn't reach his threshold for doing anything more about it. Bob loses legitimate mail. So Alice knows the email was not lost. Sure. But the intended recipient doesn't have any information at all. She is now aware of why, hence the http://url in the error mesg. And now Alice can contact her admin, and figure out why that ip/block is spewing spam at me/us/blacklist users. Sure. Alice _could_ do that. But if she doesn't, Bob loses legitimate mail. So in summary, dns blacklists do not lose email. The email was never sent by Alice's email server and she is aware why. Bob didn't receive the mail. He isn't aware why. Bob loses legitimate mail. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automated web page builder
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 09:38:53PM -0500, JJB wrote: I have an need to build an web page environment which could look just like the FBSD online handbook. An document index page with links into the big document, and each displayed page having previous, home, and next links at both the top and bottom of the page. Was some kind of tool used to build the FBSD handbook that automatically builds all the links for you, or was all that done by hand? The Handbook (and the rest of the documentation) is authored in DocBook SGML. If you want something just like the online Handbook, you might try DocBook SGML or XML, or for a more web-centric output, even the DocBook Website system. You can get information on all of them from here: http://www.docbook.org/ -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about logo
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:56:05PM -0800, Bubble Gum wrote: I just want to ask (i'm sorry if it's a silly question),why freebsd logo use devil character? It's not a devil. It's a daemon. http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web Editing?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:54:35AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2004-01-19T14:25:28Z, Eric F Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do people here use to edit HTML documents? Emacs. Are you using PSGML's xml-mode? I find it's not indenting my XHTML documents too well (for example, it seems to assume something like 'div' is an inline rather than a block level element, and then won't indent the closing tag properly if I move it onto a new line), though I haven't tried to debug it too extensively. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web Editing?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:35:14AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i seriouslly cant understand how people can develop via a terminal especially for speed and efficiency when edit, moving , selecting etc. . I don't really find anything speedy or efficient about the 'click, drag, select, menu, select, dialog-box, click-button, are-you-sure, confirm' paradigm myself. I guess everyone's mileage varies. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ogg encoding
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 10:41:52PM -0400, Todd Stephens wrote: I found a port for mp32ogg to convert mp3 to ogg format, but is there a program to convert wav to ogg format? I like the ogg format, but it seems to me that there will be some data loss going from wav to mp3 and then to ogg. As someone else suggested, you want /usr/ports/audio/vorbis-tools. I wrote a brief how-to for ripping from audio CD to Ogg Vorbis: http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/audio-rip-how-to.html It includes automatic download of the track list, transforming the XML received and adding the appropriate metadata to each track. It could be automated further---suggestions welcome. -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP ScanJet 2300c with SANE
Hello, I have a HP ScanJet 2300c USB scanner. It's not listed as supported by the SANE hp backend. I see there's work in progress for the 2200c, but no mention anywhere of the 2300c. Just in case I've missed something glaringly obvious: does anyone on the list have a 2300c, and have you got it going under FreeBSD? -- Paul. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
System-wide virus and spam scanning with qmail-scanner
A How-To describing the setup of system-wide virus and spam scanning of incoming email using qmail-scanner is now available here: http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/qmail-scanner-how-to.html The setup described uses qmail-scanner to filter incoming mail through Clam AntiVirus's clamscan and SpamAssassin's spamd. Email flagged by clamscan is quarantined in a separate Maildir, while procmail can be used to divert email flagged by spamd. Comments and corrections are sought. :-) -- Paul. mailto:paulh;logicsquad.net mailto:paul.hoadley;student.adelaide.edu.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message