RE: Google Chrome
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser collect our valuable data? What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents and records on Google servers is a great idea. Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable explanation for the creation of the tool. Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
our valuable data? What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents and records on Google servers is a great idea. EXACTLY like that. and google succeed in it, showing well that most people, even being doctors, professors etc.. don't understand such a simple thing. but it's their problem, as long as i'm not FORCED to use it. Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable explanation for the creation of the tool. with some private person or a few - it could be possible that they do it because they like, and give it for free. but certainly not in a huge corporation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
jef moskot wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser collect our valuable data? What other purpose would Google have for creating this software? Everything Google does is attempt to collect more data, whether it's collecting the world's email or convincing corporations, universities, private citizens, and everyone else that storing all their documents and records on Google servers is a great idea. Whether this browser directly collects more data or simply assists them with their other collection methods, there's no other reasonable explanation for the creation of the tool. The big selling point of this browser is the performance of its Javascript engine compared to other existing browsers. Javascript is what is used to run the client side of web applications...like Google Docs, and other Google applications. Pushing the development of Javascript is directly tied to google's ability to launch more complex web-based applications in the future. As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no more of that than other existing browsers, according to: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ Kris P.S. This thread is off-topic for freebsd-questions, redirecting to chat. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
As for google collecting private data, this browser apparently does no more of that than other existing browsers, according to: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ of course. they just start.. just wait a bit ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it doesn't even run configure for some of the third-party tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac.. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
John Nielsen writes: It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it doesn't even run configure for some of the third-party tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac.. Have you offered your changes back to Google? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Friday 05 September 2008, Robert Huff wrote: John Nielsen writes: It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the recommended versions of the dependencies (including nspr and nss a version ahead of what's currently in ports). The chromium build script assumes the existence of /proc and /bin/bash. I stopped trying for now when I discovered that it doesn't even run configure for some of the third-party tools. It uses canned header files generated for Linux or Mac.. Have you offered your changes back to Google? Haven't made any changes yet, just observations. I did send my updated nss port to the maintainer.. If I make any headway on Chromium itself I don't intend to keep it private, though I don't think it'll be a priority any time soon. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, John Nielsen wrote: I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( It won't be trivial to port. Last night I got as far as installing the Until it get's ported run it under wine!: http://www.arnold.se/chris/2008/09/howto-run-chrome-on-freebsd-70/ It's dead easy today with the new version of wine. And will be even easier when wine in ports get updated... /Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RW Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:22 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level-playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. The real reason that Chrome is important is because due to Microsoft enticement and pressure, a growing number of people are implementing websites that require active X controls which won't run on anything other than Windows. We are seeing a lot of this in embedded stuff but it's starting to contaminate public websites and most importantly, general software. Just by virtue of it coming from Google, a lot of end users and consumers out there will download, install and run Chrome. As a result web designers will have less incentive to jump to active X. That is very important. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level-playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:21 PM To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level-playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. Since they are defining standards that are implemented in open source code under BSD license I don't see the problem. You can complain the day that Adobe releases the source for Acrobat Reader, and Flash, under BSD license, and Google closes the source for Chrome, OK? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:21 PM To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level- playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. Since they are defining standards that are implemented in open source code under BSD license I don't see the problem. You can complain the day that Adobe releases the source for Acrobat Reader, and Flash, under BSD license, and Google closes the source for Chrome, OK? I am not saying what they are doing is not good for the community. Like everyone here I thing that's great. Not only because it's one more pice of freesoftware. Also because that will force web developers to use standards instead of specificities only available on IE. I am just saying that what they are doing is for their own good and not for the good of mankind. Their business model doesn't rely on software ownership but on data mining. -fred- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:42 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred C Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:21 PM To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Sep 3, 2008, at 5:21 PM, RW wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level- playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. So you mean that google is learning from the Microsoft mistakes. Or maybe google need to get along with the standards for now, but as soon as they have secured the market they will define the standards as they need it to be for their benefit. Since they are defining standards that are implemented in open source code under BSD license I don't see the problem. You can complain the day that Adobe releases the source for Acrobat Reader, and Flash, under BSD license, and Google closes the source for Chrome, OK? I am not saying what they are doing is not good for the community. Like everyone here I thing that's great. Not only because it's one more pice of freesoftware. Also because that will force web developers to use standards instead of specificities only available on IE. I am just saying that what they are doing is for their own good and not for the good of mankind. Their business model doesn't rely on software ownership but on data mining. I actually don't think that everyone here is naieve enough to believe that Google is doing this purely for altruistic reasons. Just about every open source program ever written was written for the good of the programmer, not for the good of the community. The programmer needed a piece of software, he created it, and saw that it was good. The sharing comes later. Philosophers have been arguing for centuries that nobody does anything for altruistic reasons. Keep that in mind when you turn on the RNC and watch all the speeches from the politicians saying they are running to fix America. Such altruism!!! ;-) Seriously, what Google is doing is exactly like what ATT did when they sent out source of the early UNIX to all those colleges and universities, so many years ago. From that grew BSD UNIX and FreeBSD. But it wasn't done to help UCB, it was done to help ATT! Google is just going back to the original UNIX software model that reigned before the coming of Sauron and the Great Software Darkness. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Seriously, what Google is doing is exactly like what ATT did when they sent out source of the early UNIX to all those colleges and universities, so many years ago. This isn't about creating software, it's about collecting our data. I don't understand why people and institutions are willingly handing over all their most valuable information to a private corporation, but maybe I'm just old and cranky and not ready for the New World Order. Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Google Chrome
I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser collect our valuable data? Obviously, keying in data into a search engine to find things is giving the search engine data on what people are searching for. Is there any requirement to do this if your running Chrome? And, how else would you find something? I think I'm missing something here in this argument. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of jef moskot Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:32 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Google Chrome On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Seriously, what Google is doing is exactly like what ATT did when they sent out source of the early UNIX to all those colleges and universities, so many years ago. This isn't about creating software, it's about collecting our data. I don't understand why people and institutions are willingly handing over all their most valuable information to a private corporation, but maybe I'm just old and cranky and not ready for the New World Order. Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:26:46 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser collect our valuable data? Obviously, keying in data into a search engine to find things is giving the search engine data on what people are searching for. Is there any requirement to do this if your running Chrome? And, how else would you find something? I think I'm missing something here in this argument. Please don't top post. It makes reading a thread a lot harder than it needs to be. I think I posted this yesterday. In any case, you might want to to take a look at it and its implications. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/03/0247205from=rss -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs, pl. n.: Small living things that small living boys throw on small living girls. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: Google Chrome
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerard Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:15 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Google Chrome On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:26:46 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I must have missed something, how would running the Chrome browser collect our valuable data? Obviously, keying in data into a search engine to find things is giving the search engine data on what people are searching for. Is there any requirement to do this if your running Chrome? And, how else would you find something? I think I'm missing something here in this argument. Please don't top post. It makes reading a thread a lot harder than it needs to be. I think I posted this yesterday. In any case, you might want to to take a look at it and its implications. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/03/0247205from=rss Um, the OP used Chrome to refer to the Google browser under FreeBSD, strongly implying compiling the source to it under FreeBSD. (ie: porting to FreeBSD) At least that is how I took it. The Chrome open source code is under the BSD license, the EULA that is subject of the discussion is attached to the compiled binary that is (I would assume) the result of Google compiling that BSD licensed source under a Windows compiler. You should certainly be aware of the terms of the BSD license by now - if I want to take a product like FreeBSD and compile it's source, I can then commence to apply whatever restrictive EULA that I please to the result. Google is free to license Chrome under BSD then compile a Windows version of Chrome and then apply an EULA to it that is more restrictive - and that appears to be what they have done as documented by this thread you posted. Since the EULA is only under the Windows precompiled binary of Chrome, it isn't applicable to a FreeBSD version of Chrome or to this discussion. So once more, what is the issue here? Since you have the BSD source for Chrome you can certainly remove any secret data collection routines that might be buried in the browser code (if that is your concern, assuming such things even exist) then compile it how you want. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:16:08 -0800 Peter Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Safari is based on KDE's Konquerer (which already runs on FreeBSD), so with a FreeBSD version of Chrome, you would essentially have Konquerer ported to Apple, ported to Microsoft, ported to Linux, ported back to FreeBSD They've based their rendering on WebKit, but there's a lot more to Chrome than that: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ I think it looks very interesting. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
RW wrote: On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:16:08 -0800 Peter Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Safari is based on KDE's Konquerer (which already runs on FreeBSD), so with a FreeBSD version of Chrome, you would essentially have Konquerer ported to Apple, ported to Microsoft, ported to Linux, ported back to FreeBSD They've based their rendering on WebKit, but there's a lot more to Chrome than that: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ I think it looks very interesting. I think it would be in beta for decades :) There's just so much thing they said they'll do that would be very complicated to implement - their multiprocessing model instead of multithreading for example. To me it looks like they will soon find out that there's a reason todays browsers behave like they to - the platform (HTML, CSS, JS, Flash...) is very complex. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Google Chrome
I think it would be in beta for decades :) There's just so much thing they said they'll do that would be very complicated to implement - their multiprocessing model instead of multithreading for example. To me it looks like they will soon find out that there's a reason todays browsers behave like they to - the platform (HTML, CSS, JS, Flash...) is very complex. anyway what a point of using google software having other alternatives. do you really like to everything be controlled by one company? google mail, google news, google browser, even google documents. within few years - google WWW (incompatible with normal). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:55:39 +0200 Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I think it would be in beta for decades :) There's just so much thing they said they'll do that would be very complicated to implement - their multiprocessing model instead of multithreading for example. To me it looks like they will soon find out that there's a reason todays browsers behave like they to - the platform (HTML, CSS, JS, Flash...) is very complex. Google has had this Beta-4-Ever frame of mind for years now. They virtually never release a final product; thus effectively covering their 'ass' with the word BETA when something goes wrong or doesn't work as expected or required by RFC's, etc. In any case, this little tidbit looks rather interesting. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/03/0247205from=rss -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] The thrill is here, but it won't last long You'd better have your fun before it moves along... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:59:28 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyway what a point of using google software having other alternatives. do you really like to everything be controlled by one company? google mail, google news, google browser, even google documents. within few years - google WWW (incompatible with normal). For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:13:35PM +0100, RW wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. What about this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/ -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:39:01 -0500 David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:13:35PM +0100, RW wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. What about this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/ That's for the binary. AFAIK the source is BSD licensed, with some third-party components under other open-source licences. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On 2008-09-02, Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( Once it runs on Linux it shouldn't be too difficult to port it to FreeBSD. However it doesn't run on Linux ATM according to what I've read. Has anyone tried to install it using wine? I tried but it just hung after agreeing to the license. ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:03:51 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:39:01 -0500 David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:13:35PM +0100, RW wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. What about this? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/ That's for the binary. AFAIK the source is BSD licensed, with some third-party components under other open-source licences. Well, it did not take Google long to get on noticed: http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#google_chrome_vulnerability I think I will pass on the whole Google 'browser' concept. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] All is well that ends well. John Heywood signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Google Chrome
For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On 2008-09-02, Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( Once it runs on Linux it shouldn't be too difficult to port it to FreeBSD. However it doesn't run on Linux ATM according to what I've read. Has anyone tried to install it using wine? I tried but it just hung after agreeing to the license. I managed to get past slashdot's first redirect and Chrome started to render the page. I have written down my experience and what was needed here: http://www.arnold.se/chris/ /Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For most people that's already happened, except that it's Adobe-Flash WWW. Google's approach of open-source software, and open-extensions, leading to new standards, sounds a lot better to me. except it leads to google-everything. not even a bit better than microsoft-everything There's a lot of difference. Microsoft has always tried to undermine standards because standards give its competitors a more level-playing field, which is what Google needs for its webapps to compete with Microsoft's desktop applications. I don't see how that's bad for anyone except Microsoft. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Google Chrome
Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411topic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346query=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On 2008-09-02, Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Vlad GURDIGA said: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411to pic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346qu ery=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? If someone steps up and rolls and submits the port. You're welcome to volunteer :-) I'd be glad to, but I'm afraid I do not have the skills for that... :-( Once it runs on Linux it shouldn't be too difficult to port it to FreeBSD. However it doesn't run on Linux ATM according to what I've read. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google Chrome
On Tuesday, September 02, 2008, at 12:38PM, Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, In Google Chrome System requirements (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95411topic=14660) they say that a Linux version is going to appear. And in the Download and install help article (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95346query=open-sourcetopic=type=) they say that it is open-source. Does this mean that is hope we'll have a FreeBSD version? That would be somewhat ironic, since according to Reuters: *** QUOTE *** We have borrowed good ideas from others, Google Vice President of Product Management Sindar Pichai said. Our goal here was to bring our point of view, but do it in a very open way. Because Chrome relies on Apple's open-source WebKit software for rendering Web pages, it can run any application that runs on Apple's Safari Web browser, Pichai said. If you are a Webmaster, and your site works in Apple Safari then it will work very well in Google Chrome, he said. *** END QUOTE *** And Safari is based on KDE's Konquerer (which already runs on FreeBSD), so with a FreeBSD version of Chrome, you would essentially have Konquerer ported to Apple, ported to Microsoft, ported to Linux, ported back to FreeBSD Granted, improvements are made along the way... (but losses probably occur as well). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
