Re: back up Win2k workstations?
At 10:43 AM 1.26.2003 -0500, Francisco J Reyes wrote: >On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, P. U. Kruppa wrote: > >> I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on >> a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? > >This more of a windows question, but here is what I do. >I use DriveImage from powerquest to make images of my files to a second >hard drive. Then copy the images to my FreeBSD machine in case the machine >dies. > >If only the first drive on the windows box dies I can bring it back up >with emergency restore. If the whole machine dies (ie both drives) I need >to install windows, copy images from the FreeBSD machine then boot of >rescue disks. > I use the VERITAS backup utility that comes with Win2K to backup (file type backup) directly to a FBSD machine over Samba connection retores just fine. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, P. U. Kruppa wrote: > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? This more of a windows question, but here is what I do. I use DriveImage from powerquest to make images of my files to a second hard drive. Then copy the images to my FreeBSD machine in case the machine dies. If only the first drive on the windows box dies I can bring it back up with emergency restore. If the whole machine dies (ie both drives) I need to install windows, copy images from the FreeBSD machine then boot of rescue disks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:59:32 + (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P. U. Kruppa) wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Stephen Hilton wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:41:07 + (GMT) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P. U. Kruppa) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > > > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? > > > > > > > Setup a Samba server on the FreeBSD box, then use the native > > windows backup tools to backup to the Samba share. Archive > > backups on the FreeBSD/Samba machine to tape/CDRW etc... with > > tar. If file compression is enabled in the windows backup > > utility then avoid using compression in your tar command as > > you will waste a lot of CPU power for very little compression. > This seems to be the simpliest method, because I already have got > a running Samba Server. I can do a backup of C: besides some > files which are locked because they are in use. > Before I try a crash test: > How could I do a restore - assuming the worst case: C: is > completely deleted? > Do I have to boot the Win2k CD-ROM? There may be other better methods, anyone ?, but when I have done this for W2K systems it is a basic re-install from CD then setup networking so I can map the Samba share, then restore from the backup on the Samba share. Don't forget to backup and restore the "system-state" with the W2K tool for total system restores. If Winders was open-source/non-propriatary then some kind programmers would create a program, lets call it "PICO-W2K" (no dis-respect meant) and allow you to boot from it and perform all sorts of wonderfull config/repair/restore functions from a command prompt with all your favorite tools available. Well this thread is digressing further from BSD related topics. Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, P. U. Kruppa wrote: I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? The approach I use here is to set up Samba on FreeBSD and run Microsoft Backup on Windows to backup to a file on the server. Other Windows backup programs (e.g., Dantz Retrospect) can also write to files on a Samba server. A couple of caveats: * Use a recent version of Samba. Prior to 2.0.8, Samba did not support files >4GB, and some later versions got very slow with large files. I'm playing with the beta of 3.0 which is very fast with large files. * Microsoft Backup does no compression. You can either use very large hard disks on your server (which is what I'm doing now) or periodically run a script on the server to gzip the backup files. * You should probably tune the disk for large files; read 'man newfs' for details. Using this setup with 100Mbps Ethernet, I can backup a Windows workstation with 60GB of data in about 3 1/2 hours over the network, resulting in a single 60GB file on the server. Fortunately, not all of my Windows machines are this large. ;-) Tim Kientzle To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Stephen Hilton wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:41:07 + (GMT) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P. U. Kruppa) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? > > > > Setup a Samba server on the FreeBSD box, then use the native > windows backup tools to backup to the Samba share. Archive > backups on the FreeBSD/Samba machine to tape/CDRW etc... with > tar. If file compression is enabled in the windows backup > utility then avoid using compression in your tar command as > you will waste a lot of CPU power for very little compression. This seems to be the simpliest method, because I already have got a running Samba Server. I can do a backup of C: besides some files which are locked because they are in use. Before I try a crash test: How could I do a restore - assuming the worst case: C: is completely deleted? Do I have to boot the Win2k CD-ROM? Regards, Uli. > > Regards, > > Stephen Hilton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:41:07 + (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (P. U. Kruppa) wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? > Setup a Samba server on the FreeBSD box, then use the native windows backup tools to backup to the Samba share. Archive backups on the FreeBSD/Samba machine to tape/CDRW etc... with tar. If file compression is enabled in the windows backup utility then avoid using compression in your tar command as you will waste a lot of CPU power for very little compression. Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 05:41:07AM +, P. U. Kruppa typed: > Hi, > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? If you want to make full backups of the workstations, including system files and all, I would recommend using a product like ghost and writing the images to a samba share on the FreeBSD machine. Ruben > > Thanks, > > Uli. > > *---* > *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* > * - Wuppertal - * > * Germany * > *---* > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, P. U. Kruppa wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? Can it be done: Yes. The software you'll want to look into is a combination of amanda (www.amanda.org) and samba (www.samba.org). From the amanda homepage: "AMANDA, the Advanced Maryland Automatic Network Disk Archiver, is a backup system that allows the administrator of a LAN to set up a single master backup server to back up multiple hosts to a single large capacity tape drive. AMANDA uses native dump and/or GNU tar facilities and can back up a large number of workstations running multiple versions of Unix. Recent versions can also use SAMBA to back up Microsoft Windows 95/NT hosts" The amanda servers and clients are in the ports ( /usr/ports/misc/amanda-client and /usr/ports/misc/amanda-server) as is samba (/usr/ports/net/samba). How: is slightly more complicated, but a decent description seems to be available at: http://www.coe.tamu.edu/cs/amanda/SAMBA - Jeff Jirsa To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: back up Win2k workstations?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 05:41:07AM +, P. U. Kruppa wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a concept to back up some Win2k workstations on > a FreeBSD machine. Can this be done and how? > Make a "share" for the disk(s) you want to backup, then use mount_smbfs to get at the data. You may not be successful backing up files in use, not sure, but speculating. This would prevent successful backup of registry and security/user databases. I'm almost certain you couldn't restore onto a MS filesystem on top of files in use, so that would make restoring problematic. A safe concept would be backup data files (as opposed to system files) not in use with tar. HTH, -- Regards, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
