Re: Hello

2013-06-26 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, julius  wrote:
> Which BSD for a user desktop ??!.

PCBSD 9

> I all ready have Linux mint but I like to try again, in the past I have use
> it but no luck in dual booting system with windows and I have try to follow
> youtube BSD users that gave instructions on the BSD and no luck.


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Re: Hello

2013-06-26 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, David Demelier wrote:


2013/6/26 Mike Jeays :

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:56:59 +1000
julius  wrote:


Which BSD for a user desktop ??!.
I all ready have Linux mint but I like to try again, in the past I have
use it but no luck in dual booting system with windows and I have try to
follow youtube BSD users that gave instructions on the BSD and no luck.
Everybody that I watch in youtube for instruction it hasn't work even
loading the BSD on is own hasn't work.So which BSD for a user desktop??!
Thank you


PC-BSD is a good place to start; it makes installation easy.

I prefer running Windows in a VM under VirtualBox to dual-booting. Switching
between the two is much faster, and you can make the host file system visible
to the guest with Samba.


The only drawback of this is performance. Or you have a very powerful
machine :-)


The VM guests run pretty quick, at least if the host CPU has VT-x or 
AMD-V.  Check the BIOS, Intel VT-x is sometimes disabled there.  I have 
not benchmarked but would estimate it to be 80-90% equivalent CPU speed, 
maybe a bit less for disk I/O depending on the virtual disk type.


Windows in a VM also has the benefit of being able to move the VM to a 
different host without having to reinstall the operating system in the 
VM.  But overall, the best feature is that the VM host and guest run at 
the same time.

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Re: Hello

2013-06-26 Thread David Demelier
2013/6/26 Mike Jeays :
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:56:59 +1000
> julius  wrote:
>
>> Which BSD for a user desktop ??!.
>> I all ready have Linux mint but I like to try again, in the past I have
>> use it but no luck in dual booting system with windows and I have try to
>> follow youtube BSD users that gave instructions on the BSD and no luck.
>> Everybody that I watch in youtube for instruction it hasn't work even
>> loading the BSD on is own hasn't work.So which BSD for a user desktop??!
>> Thank you
>> --
>> Best Wishes Julius
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> PC-BSD is a good place to start; it makes installation easy.
>
> I prefer running Windows in a VM under VirtualBox to dual-booting. Switching
> between the two is much faster, and you can make the host file system visible
> to the guest with Samba.

The only drawback of this is performance. Or you have a very powerful
machine :-)

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Re: Hello

2013-06-25 Thread Mike Jeays
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 08:56:59 +1000
julius  wrote:

> Which BSD for a user desktop ??!.
> I all ready have Linux mint but I like to try again, in the past I have 
> use it but no luck in dual booting system with windows and I have try to 
> follow youtube BSD users that gave instructions on the BSD and no luck.
> Everybody that I watch in youtube for instruction it hasn't work even 
> loading the BSD on is own hasn't work.So which BSD for a user desktop??!
> Thank you
> -- 
> Best Wishes Julius
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PC-BSD is a good place to start; it makes installation easy.

I prefer running Windows in a VM under VirtualBox to dual-booting. Switching
between the two is much faster, and you can make the host file system visible
to the guest with Samba.
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Re: hello

2011-04-27 Thread Michael Powell
Julian Fagir wrote:

[snip]
> 
>> But, the question is quite clear, though I have no idea why [s]he
>> wants to do that downgrade and might want to explore that before
>> encouraging that move.
> That was what I was looking for, and for what was already done and how the
> system is usually updated (binary, sources) or if it was ever updated, and
> what the system does, i.e. which software is installed.
> And even why it shall be 7.2 or 7.1 and nothing newer.
> 
> 
> Regards, Julian

Language difficulties are problematic by themselves, but most professionals 
are not concerned with this as long as the information is there with which 
to address the actual problem.

There are several methods for upgrading systems and they essentially break 
down into two categories - binary or source. I am fairly unfamiliar with the 
binary approaches as I have always used the source-based method. I believe 
one caveat with the binary method is it only works with the GENERIC (the 
original kernel from the base install) kernel, so if you desire to run 
custom kernels the source upgrade process may be a better way to go.

The main point to be aware of is the ABI changes (and potential breakages) 
which occur when changing major version numbers, e.g., for example when 
going from 7.x version to 8.x version. When doing a source based upgrade 
(also known as "the make buildworld kernel installxxx..." dance) from one 
major version to the next you will need to rebuild all installed ports 
immediately after (and indeed as part of)  so that they will then be linked 
against the new major versions' libraries.

Mostly this process is driven by the need to upgrade, and there are actually 
compatibility shims which allow for running a previous version of an 
application (let's say an app limited to run only on 6.x or 7.x) on the 
newer operating system version.  An example would be to install the 
/usrports/misc/compat7x port on an 8.x machine in order to support an app 
designed for 7.x. Although this is only an example for illustrative 
purposes, it also may _not_ be applicable in your situation as it provides 
compatibility shims for 7.3.

So there are any number of available avenues open for you to choose from, 
and some reading on the upgrade procedures covered in the Handbook might be 
a good way to become more familiar in order to make a more informed decision 
on exactly which may be the best for your specific situation.

In addition to all the other upgrade methodologies which might actually 
allow for you to do an actual "downgrade" successfully, you may also wish to 
consider starting from scratch. I would tend to proceed in this direction if 
I was taking over a mess someone else had created. Many times a fresh OS can 
be installed, the application installed, and the previous configuration 
files and data can simply be copied to the new install.  This way you know 
everything about the machine you are now responsible for as opposed to never 
knowing for sure everything your predecessor may have screwed up.

First thing I do is study the situation and not make any changes to anything 
until I've figured out exactly what I need to do. Backups of all data is 
essential; I always dump everything so I can always recover back to a known 
good if something goes terribly wrong. First and foremost question I have is 
concerning the statement: "And even why it shall be 7.2 or 7.1 and nothing 
newer. "  We really need to understand this completely first. More 
details on this may be useful for potentially providing better advice.

-Mike

PS: I don't like any app which absolutely says it 'requires' a version of an 
operating system which may not receive security updates and whose End-of-
Life may expire before I need to stop relying on this application. Whenever 
I've seen this in the past it has most often been associated with bad and 
defective coding by whoever wrote the app, and nursing it along only pushed 
off into the future actually dealing with the problem of a broken app.
 

 


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Re: hello

2011-04-27 Thread Julian Fagir
Hi,

> Huh??   
> The only thing wrong is missing a meaningful subject -- which can
> cause people to ignore the post.
I don't feel offended myself... But I read several times people (though
mostly news) who would feel so by the subject, the name (translated to "don't
care don't care") and the lack of information, and of not having tried
everything else one can think of before mailing.
And I know I'm contributing now myself by placing off-topic posts on
(n)etiquette when it wasn't asked for nor even necessary to give that
advice... ;)

> But, the question is quite clear, though I have no idea why [s]he
> wants to do that downgrade and might want to explore that before
> encouraging that move.
That was what I was looking for, and for what was already done and how the
system is usually updated (binary, sources) or if it was ever updated, and
what the system does, i.e. which software is installed.
And even why it shall be 7.2 or 7.1 and nothing newer.


Regards, Julian


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Re: hello

2011-04-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 01:38:45PM +0200, Julian Fagir wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> > can you help me, i will freebsd 8.1 32bit downgraden to freebsd 7.1 or 7.2
> > as ?
> I think you ask on one of the regional mailing lists in your mother tongue.
> According to your errors (German, Dutch?), your language has a regional
> mailing list, just have a look at:
> http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html
> 
> Anyway, you should define your problem more precisely and read the
> netiquette, probably some more conservative people will be offended by your
> post (name, subject, language).

Huh??   
The only thing wrong is missing a meaningful subject -- which can
cause people to ignore the post.

But, the question is quite clear, though I have no idea why [s]he
wants to do that downgrade and might want to explore that before
encouraging that move.

jerry


> 
> 
> Regards, Julian


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Re: hello

2011-04-27 Thread Julian Fagir
Hi,

> can you help me, i will freebsd 8.1 32bit downgraden to freebsd 7.1 or 7.2
> as ?
I think you ask on one of the regional mailing lists in your mother tongue.
According to your errors (German, Dutch?), your language has a regional
mailing list, just have a look at:
http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html

Anyway, you should define your problem more precisely and read the
netiquette, probably some more conservative people will be offended by your
post (name, subject, language).


Regards, Julian


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X configuration (was: Re: hello)

2009-06-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Mike's Hotmail Account wrote:
> I am trying to install freebsd on my m-2625u  gateway laptop but am running 
> into trouble. whe  I try to start x all I get is a black screen. I would try 
> to configure the xorg file but I have no idea what my screen specs are. I 
> know these questions are dumb but im kind of new to bsd.
>   
Please read the relevant Handbook section, 5.4.2:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html

To start a desktop like Gnome or KDE you will have to install the
relevant packages and create an .xinitrc file. Please see section 5.7:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

and also the  FreeBSD web pages. For example, for Gnome see here:

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/
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Re: hello

2009-06-01 Thread Neal Hogan
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Wojciech Puchar
 wrote:
>> I am trying to install freebsd on my m-2625u  gateway laptop but am
>> running into trouble. whe  I try to start x all I get is a black screen.
>
> X -configure
>
> and look if it works fine (no crash etc).
>
> It will generate  xorg.conf file in current directory. move it to /etc/X11
> and try to edit something
>
> Xorg tries to autoconfigure things but it may not always work

if auto-config fails, check out the xrandr pkg/port to get some screen specs.

Have you looked at the output of 'dmesg' (or /var/run/dmesg.boot)? It
will give you detailed hardware info. Also, I suggest posting that
info on this list as well. Perhaps someone has the same hardware as
you and can suggest something specific to it.

-Neal

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Re: hello

2009-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I am trying to install freebsd on my m-2625u  gateway laptop but am running 
into trouble. whe  I try to start x all I get is a black screen.


X -configure

and look if it works fine (no crash etc).

It will generate  xorg.conf file in current directory. move it to /etc/X11 
and try to edit something


Xorg tries to autoconfigure things but it may not always work
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Re: Hello just looking for info

2008-11-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:38:23PM -0330, Robert Anthony wrote:

> Hello dear Sir/ Madam;
> 
> I have recently started work on a business plan for a small computer
> manufacturing plant. I have decided that I want to distribute my computers
> with a non windows OS such as Linux or free BSD or something of this nature.
> I am contacting you because I am looking for some information on what you
> offer system builders in the way of distributing your software. I am
> interested in what ever information you can offer me so please send me
> anything that may help. 

Really, you need to read the information at the FreeBSD web site
  http://www.freebsd.org/
and follow some of the links to other sites so you can get a better
picture of what FreeBSD is all about.It is an Opensource, 
volunteer created and maintained system based on BSD Unix.   It is
a very good server system and a moderately servicable desktop system

You can download the install CD images, burn your own and distribute
them with your systems if you wish.   You could sell them with FreeBSD
already installed if you like.   There are no restrictions.

jerry

> 
> Thanks for your time. 
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Re: Hello

2008-06-27 Thread Vince Hoffman

Chance Hoggan wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any programming projects needing done that is suitable for a novice? 


When I say novice I have been using freebsd for around 3 years and developing 
for around 4. I want to understand the freebsd operating system better and I am 
looking for some guidance that would give me a place to start understanding how 
the system works. I mean more in the system code.

Even if you do not have any projects if you could give me some tasks that would 
equally be great.

Regards,
Chance



Hi,
	I believe http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ is a good place to 
start. Also try asking on the -current or -hackers mailing lists.
	I've noticed that if you find something that seems interesting and 
start work on it then ask specific questions you are more likely to get 
useful replies than if you ask more general questions. That said i'm not 
a developer so don't feel you need to pay too much attention to my 
suggestions as they are purely based on observation not 
instruction/experience :)



Vince



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Re: Hello.. about motherboard MSI P4M900M2-L with chip VT8237A

2007-10-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 02:39:16AM +0200, Johan Andersson wrote:
> Hello..
> Anyone know if motherboard MSI P4M900M2-L with the chip VT8237A  works
> with FreeBSD 6.2 amd64?
> Do all the stuff works like p-ata/s-ata controller and network card work?
> 
> im going to build a small server with that motherboard.
> Need to know if it works with FreeBSD before i buy it :)

I've got this on my mobo;

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rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device = 'VT8237  VT6410 SATA RAID Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID

It works perfectly. I'm running it in RAID1 on amd64.

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device = 'VT8233/33A/8235/8237 AC97 Enhanced Audio Controller'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = audio

Sound works fine as well.

Roland
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Re: Hello sir

2007-10-16 Thread Daniel Gerzo
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 06:24:26PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:07:33AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hello sir
> > i would like to run freebsd.sd  to supoort freebsd on Sudan .. do i need 
> > to follow any steps before i run it and join freebsd.org as mirror ?
> > Mohammed Tayeb
> > SysAdmin.
> 
> There is documentation somewhere on setting up a mirror, but I just
> did a quickie search and didn't find it.   I don't have time right now
> to look more.   Maybe someone else will provide the information or maybe
> a useful link will be added on the main web site documentation somewhere.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/index.html

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Re: Hello sir

2007-10-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:07:33AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> 
>> Hello sir
>> i would like to run freebsd.sd  to supoort freebsd on Sudan .. do i need 
>> to follow any steps before i run it and join freebsd.org as mirror ?
>> Mohammed Tayeb
>> SysAdmin.
>
> There is documentation somewhere on setting up a mirror, but I just
> did a quickie search and didn't find it.   I don't have time right now
> to look more.   Maybe someone else will provide the information or maybe
> a useful link will be added on the main web site documentation somewhere.

It's the cvsup-mirror port.  
It tells you everything you need to know.
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Re: Hello sir

2007-10-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:07:33AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Hello sir
> i would like to run freebsd.sd  to supoort freebsd on Sudan .. do i need 
> to follow any steps before i run it and join freebsd.org as mirror ?
> Mohammed Tayeb
> SysAdmin.

There is documentation somewhere on setting up a mirror, but I just
did a quickie search and didn't find it.   I don't have time right now
to look more.   Maybe someone else will provide the information or maybe
a useful link will be added on the main web site documentation somewhere.

jerry


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Re: Hello

2007-09-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:33:42PM +0100, Gabriel Dragffy wrote:

> Dear list members.
> 
> I just wanted to say hi to all of you. My name is Gabriel, and I have  
> just been setting up a FreeBSD server at work, having moved from Linux.
> 
> There are just a couple of things that aren't working quite as I  
> would like, and I was hoping someone might be kind enough to help me  
> out. I've been using the FreeBSD handbook, and I must say it is quite  
> superb, and makes starting with FreeBSD much easier.
> 
> Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the  
> folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't  
> have permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I  
> could change this by executing a cron job every two minutes that  
> would chmod the files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far  
> better way...? The FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend  
> allowing anon users to d/load files uploaded anonymously, however I  
> would still like to implement this.

What they are trying to do is reduce the chance that a SM will
create a system where anyone in the world can upload stuff and
then, without any checking of the stuff, anyone in the world
can download it.Eg.  They are trying to force you to at least
notice the file before making it available for download.

This is to reduce the incidence of evil minded creatures using your
machine for their despicable plots of distributing dangerous files
and software around the net.

So, what you are supposed to do is make two separate directories - 
one for upload and one for download.   Then you check each uploaded
file for mal-ware before moving it to the download space with
the needed permissions.   You can use the same directory, but do
not leave out the step of checking the file content before setting
permissions to allow download.

But, it is better to use separate directories so people doing a 
download don't have to wade through the swamp of uploaded, and
not approved/checked stuff.

Of course, some people will point out that FTP is on the outs now
anyway and will recommend other ways of doing things.  Pay attention
to that.   But, sometimes FTP still fills a need.

jerry  

> 
> I'd be very appreciative for any help.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Gabriel Dragffy
> 
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Re: Hello

2007-09-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Gabriel Dragffy wrote:

> Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the
> folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't have
> permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I could change
> this by executing a cron job every two minutes that would chmod the
> files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far better way...? The
> FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend allowing anon users to d/load
> files uploaded anonymously, however I would still like to implement this.

The idea here is to stop your FTP server being used as a warez site.  So
the script kiddies cannot upload their cracked software and dubious
copies of this that and the other and then send all their little friends
along to download that stuff from you.  Leave a mis-configured FTP
server on the net and it will be discovered and used for this purpose
within a week or so.

The best approaches are these:

  i) Don't use FTP at all.  FTP is an archaic protocol, hard to firewall
correctly and that sends passwords across the net in plain text.  The
secure version 'FTPS' is not supported by the ftpd in the base system.
Instead consider such things as SFTP (which is an SSH client which
behaves like FTP), WebDAV over HTTPS (HTTP PUT) or a form based upload
CGI script (HTTP POST), rsync over SSH. etc.

 ii) If you have to use FTP, then create individual user FTP accounts
so you have some accountability as to who is doing what.  Run the FTP
service in a chroot or jail and make sure the FTP password file is
distinct from the normal password file.

iii) If you have to provide incoming anonymous FTP then don't
automatically make any uploaded files available for download.  Task a
person with reviewing what was uploaded and then moving it into an
appropriate place in your filesystem where it can be downloaded from.
Again, be sure to run FTP chroot'ed or jailed.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Hello

2007-09-06 Thread Ivan Voras

Gabriel Dragffy wrote:

Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the 
folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't have 
permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I could change 
this by executing a cron job every two minutes that would chmod the 
files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far better way...? The 
FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend allowing anon users to d/load 
files uploaded anonymously, however I would still like to implement this.


I'd be very appreciative for any help.


Hi,

Have you seen the manual for ftpd(8)? It's available at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ftpd

You can change the flags passed to ftpd in your inetd.conf (if you 
enabled ftpd this way) or in rc.conf (which is another, but different 
way to do it). If you don't know these config files, see the respective 
manuals.





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Re: Hello!

2007-08-21 Thread Oliver Fromme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > 
 > > > From a pilot's point of view:
 > > > FreeBSD is an F-4 Phantom.
 > > > Mac is a P-38 Trainer.
 > > > Windows is a DC-10.
 > >(with a hydraulic leak)
 > 
 > Nah, a pig.  See RFC 1925 and/or Oliver Fromme's .sig.

Well, my .sig is chosen randomly from a large collection,
but I guess you're referring to this one:

|   "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.  However, this
|   is not necessarily a good idea.  It is hard to be sure where
|   they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting
|   under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925

Another nice RFC quote is this one:

|   "The ITU has offered the IETF formal alignment with its
|   corresponding technology, Penguins, but that won't fly."
|   -- RFC 2549

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Hello!

2007-08-21 Thread perryh
> > From a pilot's point of view:
> > FreeBSD is an F-4 Phantom.
> > Mac is a P-38 Trainer.
> > Windows is a DC-10.
>(with a hydraulic leak)

Nah, a pig.  See RFC 1925 and/or Oliver Fromme's .sig.
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Re: Hello!

2007-08-20 Thread Branko Vukelic
On 8/20/07, Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:24:01 +0200
> > From: Branko Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >
> > If you allow me, a BSD noob, to take part... ;)
> >
> > I'd say FreeBSD is a wolf, and DesktopBSD is definitely a dog (as in
> > domesticated wolf). By taming the wolf for desktop use (I'm not going
> > into HOW that's possible) you get a system that is quite different
> > (like an Alaskan Malaute), but still a dog, whereas DesktopBSD is
> > still like a German Shepherd. I hope my approximation is about close?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_malamute
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_shepherd
> >
> > As for other systems, yeah Windows is definitely a fish (if we're
> > talking pets), and I don't find it prudent to mention Linux here. It's
> > alien life form. :D
>
> You forgot to CC the list, Branko. :)

Oh, sorry. I'm using the GMail's webmail atm, until I get something
more decent. I keep forgetting the Reply All thingie. :p

> [I wouldn't worry about noobishness. We're mostly noobs on this list
> anyway. There are a few gurus lurking in the shadows. As long as you
> show willingness to learn and don't expect others to do hold your hand
> while you cross the road, no one minds.]
>
> Regarding the pets analogy, I was sort of thinking we could stay on
> Earth for now and leave aliens for weird future operating systems like
> LCARS. Perhaps Linux could be a venus fly trap, or possibly a ferret? A
> ferret would be good, since it's more like BSD than it is like Windows.
> And it's also very curious.

A ferret? :D Nice one!

A Windows is a dodo, then. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo

> Adam J Richardson
>


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Re: Hello!

2007-08-20 Thread Adam J Richardson

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:24:01 +0200
From: Branko Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>

If you allow me, a BSD noob, to take part... ;)

I'd say FreeBSD is a wolf, and DesktopBSD is definitely a dog (as in
domesticated wolf). By taming the wolf for desktop use (I'm not going
into HOW that's possible) you get a system that is quite different
(like an Alaskan Malaute), but still a dog, whereas DesktopBSD is
still like a German Shepherd. I hope my approximation is about close?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskan_malamute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_shepherd

As for other systems, yeah Windows is definitely a fish (if we're
talking pets), and I don't find it prudent to mention Linux here. It's
alien life form. :D


You forgot to CC the list, Branko. :)

[I wouldn't worry about noobishness. We're mostly noobs on this list 
anyway. There are a few gurus lurking in the shadows. As long as you 
show willingness to learn and don't expect others to do hold your hand 
while you cross the road, no one minds.]


Regarding the pets analogy, I was sort of thinking we could stay on 
Earth for now and leave aliens for weird future operating systems like 
LCARS. Perhaps Linux could be a venus fly trap, or possibly a ferret? A 
ferret would be good, since it's more like BSD than it is like Windows. 
And it's also very curious.


Adam J Richardson
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Re: Hello!

2007-08-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:36:03AM -0600, Old Ranger wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On 17/08/07, Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> >>Branko Vukelic wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I 
> >>>was a
> >>>Arch Linux
> >>>user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop experience.
> >>>Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD 
> >>>on my
> >>>box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).
> >>>
> >>>I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
> >>>final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
> >>>getting involved in the whole BSD scene.
> >>>
> >>>Nice meeting (sort of) you all!
> >>>
> >>>Best regards,
> >>>
> >>>Branko
> >>>  
> >>Hi Branko!
> >>
> >>I guess it's like comparing an Alsatian [FreeBSD] to a Spaniel
> >>[DesktopBSD]: they're very different, but both are still dogs. However
> >>NetBSD is a cat and Windows is a fish.
> >>
> >>Feel free to play with my sophisticated model of operating system
> >>development, anyone.
> >>
> >>Maybe I shouldn't have compared FreeBSD to a dog. Whoops. Sorry all.
> >>
> >
> >If netbsd is a cat, and oh!ess!ten is variously a panther, tiger,
> >puma, (pard?  olestra?), openbsd is a fish (and some damned
> >anthropomorphic lips), probably freebsd is really a 1938
> >pontiac, and windows is a cow-duck hybrid with post-it notes
> >stapled to its spine (or maybe that transporter accident from
> >Star Trek: Der Movin' Picture!).
> >
> >  
> From a pilot's point of view:
> FreeBSD is an F-4 Phantom.
> Mac is a P-38 Trainer.
> Windows is a DC-10.
   (with a hydraulic leak)

jerry

> 
> Grins,
> 
> ZWH
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Re: Hello!

2007-08-20 Thread Old Ranger

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 17/08/07, Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Branko Vukelic wrote:


Hi,

My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I was a
Arch Linux
user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop experience.
Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD on my
box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).

I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
getting involved in the whole BSD scene.

Nice meeting (sort of) you all!

Best regards,

Branko
  

Hi Branko!

I guess it's like comparing an Alsatian [FreeBSD] to a Spaniel
[DesktopBSD]: they're very different, but both are still dogs. However
NetBSD is a cat and Windows is a fish.

Feel free to play with my sophisticated model of operating system
development, anyone.

Maybe I shouldn't have compared FreeBSD to a dog. Whoops. Sorry all.



If netbsd is a cat, and oh!ess!ten is variously a panther, tiger,
puma, (pard?  olestra?), openbsd is a fish (and some damned
anthropomorphic lips), probably freebsd is really a 1938
pontiac, and windows is a cow-duck hybrid with post-it notes
stapled to its spine (or maybe that transporter accident from
Star Trek: Der Movin' Picture!).

  

From a pilot's point of view:
FreeBSD is an F-4 Phantom.
Mac is a P-38 Trainer.
Windows is a DC-10.

Grins,

ZWH
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Re: Hello!

2007-08-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17/08/07, Adam J Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Branko Vukelic wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I was a
> > Arch Linux
> > user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop experience.
> > Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD on my
> > box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).
> >
> > I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
> > final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
> > getting involved in the whole BSD scene.
> >
> > Nice meeting (sort of) you all!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Branko
>
> Hi Branko!
>
> I guess it's like comparing an Alsatian [FreeBSD] to a Spaniel
> [DesktopBSD]: they're very different, but both are still dogs. However
> NetBSD is a cat and Windows is a fish.
>
> Feel free to play with my sophisticated model of operating system
> development, anyone.
>
> Maybe I shouldn't have compared FreeBSD to a dog. Whoops. Sorry all.

If netbsd is a cat, and oh!ess!ten is variously a panther, tiger,
puma, (pard?  olestra?), openbsd is a fish (and some damned
anthropomorphic lips), probably freebsd is really a 1938
pontiac, and windows is a cow-duck hybrid with post-it notes
stapled to its spine (or maybe that transporter accident from
Star Trek: Der Movin' Picture!).

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Re: Hello!

2007-08-17 Thread Adam J Richardson

Branko Vukelic wrote:

Hi,

My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I was a
Arch Linux
user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop experience.
Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD on my
box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).

I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
getting involved in the whole BSD scene.

Nice meeting (sort of) you all!

Best regards,

Branko


Hi Branko!

I guess it's like comparing an Alsatian [FreeBSD] to a Spaniel 
[DesktopBSD]: they're very different, but both are still dogs. However 
NetBSD is a cat and Windows is a fish.


Feel free to play with my sophisticated model of operating system 
development, anyone.


Maybe I shouldn't have compared FreeBSD to a dog. Whoops. Sorry all.

Adam J Richardson

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Re: Hello!

2007-08-17 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Branko Vukelic wrote:

Hi,

My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I was a
Arch Linux user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop 
experience.
Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD on my
box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).


Well, that could be argued a bit, I suppose.  For evidence, try
running some variation of uname(1) in your terminal.


I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
getting involved in the whole BSD scene.

Nice meeting (sort of) you all!



Greetings and welcome!

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Re: Hello!

2007-08-17 Thread Branko Vukelic
On 8/17/07, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Branko Vukelic wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Branko (a.k.a. FoxBunny in some circles). Until recently I
> was a
> > Arch Linux user, and decided to give FreeBSD a try, for a better desktop
> experience.
> > Thanks to the DesktopBSD project (BIG THANKS!) I'm now running FreeBSD
> on my
> > box (or is it proper to call DesktopBSD a FreeBSD?).
>
> Well, that could be argued a bit, I suppose.  For evidence, try
> running some variation of uname(1) in your terminal.


I'm sure it can be argued. Well, let's not argue then. :) I'll run uname and
call it whatever it splits.

> I must say I am most impressed by how all this works, from development to
> > final touches, to actually running and using it. I'm looking forward to
> > getting involved in the whole BSD scene.
> >
> > Nice meeting (sort of) you all!
> >
>
> Greetings and welcome!


Thanks!

Kevin Kinsey
> --
> QOTD:
> Our parents were never our age.
>



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Re: Hello 1 question about close console

2007-06-29 Thread Schiz0

On 6/25/07, oim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello!

I have a question about this situation.

In home work Pc with FreeBSD Server, real ip and real domain name.
When i remote connect ssh2 (consose) from my work.. make on server some.. 
compile program from ports

And some time later i need to close console, but i want, what session not close 
and compile processing.

If i disconect from console all job stop. How disconect from console and come 
back to my session?



Use GNU screen. It's in the ports collection. It lets you start,
detach, reattach, and stop sessions. It's very powerful.

http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/

And an excellent tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
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Re: Hello 1 question about close console

2007-06-29 Thread sac

On 6/25/07, oim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello!

I have a question about this situation.

In home work Pc with FreeBSD Server, real ip and real domain name.
When i remote connect ssh2 (consose) from my work.. make on server some.. 
compile program from ports

And some time later i need to close console, but i want, what session not close 
and compile processing.

If i disconect from console all job stop. How disconect from console and come 
back to my session?



Hi,

The most simplest solution to your problem is to `disown' the process.

For eg:

$ some_process &
$ disown

And if you are using zsh there it is much easier:

$ some_process &!

And when you exit, the processes will not be killed.

Regards,
sac.
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Re: Hello 1 question about close console

2007-06-29 Thread Steve W

On 29/06/07, Steve W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 25/06/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In response to oim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I have a question about this situation.
> >
> > In home work Pc with FreeBSD Server, real ip and real domain name.
> > When i remote connect ssh2 (consose) from my work.. make on server some.. 
compile program from ports
> >
> > And some time later i need to close console, but i want, what session not 
close and compile processing.
> >
> > If i disconect from console all job stop. How disconect from console and 
come back to my session?
> >
> > Thank you very much!!!
>
> Install/use /usr/ports/sysutils/screen
>
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Oim,

Bill's right, screen is a lifesaver.

However, the man page is *enormous*, here's a synopsis:

To make a new screen session (ie a console you can attach/detach to/from):
$ screen -S "caterpillar"

You will now find yourself in a new terminal.

To list open screen sessions:

$ screen -ls
There is a screen on:
692976.caterpillar  (Attached)
1 Socket in /tmp/uscreens/S-.

Now, to leave this session open, and return to your previous shell:

type CTRL + a, then d

Now list again:
$ screen -ls
There is a screen on:
692976.caterpillar  (Detached)
1 Socket in /tmp/uscreens/S-.

If there's only one screen session, you can always re-attach to it directly with
$ screen -d -r

However, if there is more than one:

$ screen -ls
There are screens on:
692976.caterpillar  (Detached)
460276.butterfly(Attached)
2 Sockets in /tmp/uscreens/S-

...you need to specify the one you want:
$ screen -r 692976.caterpillar

90% of all I do with screen is with these commands.

Hope this helps,
Steve



I forgot: to close a screen session:

$ exit
[screen is terminating]

...and you're back to your original shell (CTRL+D should work, too).
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Re: Hello 1 question about close console

2007-06-29 Thread Steve W

On 25/06/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In response to oim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello!
>
> I have a question about this situation.
>
> In home work Pc with FreeBSD Server, real ip and real domain name.
> When i remote connect ssh2 (consose) from my work.. make on server some.. 
compile program from ports
>
> And some time later i need to close console, but i want, what session not 
close and compile processing.
>
> If i disconect from console all job stop. How disconect from console and come 
back to my session?
>
> Thank you very much!!!

Install/use /usr/ports/sysutils/screen

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Oim,

Bill's right, screen is a lifesaver.

However, the man page is *enormous*, here's a synopsis:

To make a new screen session (ie a console you can attach/detach to/from):
$ screen -S "caterpillar"

You will now find yourself in a new terminal.

To list open screen sessions:

$ screen -ls
There is a screen on:
   692976.caterpillar  (Attached)
1 Socket in /tmp/uscreens/S-.

Now, to leave this session open, and return to your previous shell:

type CTRL + a, then d

Now list again:
$ screen -ls
There is a screen on:
   692976.caterpillar  (Detached)
1 Socket in /tmp/uscreens/S-.

If there's only one screen session, you can always re-attach to it directly with
$ screen -d -r

However, if there is more than one:

$ screen -ls
There are screens on:
   692976.caterpillar  (Detached)
   460276.butterfly(Attached)
2 Sockets in /tmp/uscreens/S-

...you need to specify the one you want:
$ screen -r 692976.caterpillar

90% of all I do with screen is with these commands.

Hope this helps,
Steve
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Re: Hello 1 question about close console

2007-06-25 Thread Bill Moran
In response to oim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello!
> 
> I have a question about this situation.
> 
> In home work Pc with FreeBSD Server, real ip and real domain name.
> When i remote connect ssh2 (consose) from my work.. make on server some.. 
> compile program from ports
> 
> And some time later i need to close console, but i want, what session not 
> close and compile processing. 
> 
> If i disconect from console all job stop. How disconect from console and come 
> back to my session?
> 
> Thank you very much!!!

Install/use /usr/ports/sysutils/screen

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Re: Hello :Regarding the vulnerability

2007-05-03 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "darshan na" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi.
> Thanks for the reply
> I am really sorry It was my mistake for not checking properly
> After reading again I have realised that you specify the impact and
> workaround for FreeBSD releases and you provide links to their
> sources .Please correct me if I am wrong I am new to this field .

You are obviously new, but that's OK.  We all start out new.

First off, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list for general discussion
about FreeBSD.  The fact that I responded to you post in no way identifies
me as an expert that should be exclusively consulted for further
information.  As a result, I've added [EMAIL PROTECTED] back to the
CC.

The FreeBSD project maintains a truckload of mailing lists to facilitate
collaboration within the community:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
Of particular interest to you might be this list:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security

Top-posting is also generally frowned apon.

> I also wanted to know what features to you consider when publishing the
> vulnerability

Information about how the security team operates is here:
http://www.freebsd.org/security/

If you have a number of questions, I expect you'll benefit from organizing
them all into a single email and sending them (interview-style) to the
FreeBSD security officer (listed on the previous page).

Hope this helps.

> On 5/3/07, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In response to "darshan na" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >  Hi ,
> > > I am student at one of the German Universtiy and i had a task of
> > > Benchmarking the Vulenrability Providers based on the features they
> > provide
> > > and ,its really nice that you provide vulnerablity information in xml
> > format
> > > and this is really very useful to parse this information for analysis
> > > i was checking your website where advisiories are present and i could
> > not
> > > find any risk level alloted to the vulnerability
> > > It is difficult to analyse them without that , I just wanted to know is
> > > there any particular reason for this
> >
> > Did you miss section III (called "Impact") that appears in every Advisory?
> >
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> > http://www.potentialtech.com
> >
> 


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Re: Hello :Regarding the vulnerability

2007-05-03 Thread Bill Moran
In response to "darshan na" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Hi ,
> I am student at one of the German Universtiy and i had a task of
> Benchmarking the Vulenrability Providers based on the features they provide
> and ,its really nice that you provide vulnerablity information in xml format
> and this is really very useful to parse this information for analysis
> i was checking your website where advisiories are present and i could not
> find any risk level alloted to the vulnerability
> It is difficult to analyse them without that , I just wanted to know is
> there any particular reason for this

Did you miss section III (called "Impact") that appears in every Advisory?

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Re: hello (DSL -- should be: installing PHP5)

2006-05-12 Thread Kevin Kinsey

justin wrote:


I `ve got a question about installing the php5 module.
I`m installing it from the /usr/ports/www/php5-session port.




Interesting; that's not the usual place.



Everything runs ok and it seems like the module is installed.
There is only one problem, in the httpd.conf there is a LoadModule 
php5_module refering to libexec/apache/libphp5.so.


The library libphp5.so is not made by the install and so my appache will 
not start with the php5 enabled.


What is wrong and what can i do to let the install make the libphp5.so.


php5-session is a "sub-port" if you will; it's supposed to be an
extension to /usr/ports/lang/php5.  IIRC, this was "split out"
from PHP5 quite some time ago.  So, you should *probably* install
/usr/ports/lang/php5 first, and then install the php5-session
port; or, even better, install lang/php5 and then lang/php5-extensions,
and you can get sessions and all other kinds of 'neat stuff', too.

HTH,

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Re: Hello

2006-02-19 Thread albi
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:01:10 +0100
"George Ginis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> for the freeBSD does exist Live-CD?

here's one to try :
http://www.freesbie.org/

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Re: Hello

2006-02-19 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Programator George,

Sunday, February 19, 2006, 12:01:10 PM, si tukal:

> Hello,

> for the freeBSD does exist Live-CD? 

  you can use FreeSBIE: http://www.freesbie.org/

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Re: HELLO

2005-12-21 Thread Robert Slade
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 10:11, Juber Loharia wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I My name is Juber loharia i am looking for SAP 4.7e INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
> for WINDOWS 2000 Advanced Server on my pc , the document which is listed
> here for sap installation is for LINUX and i am looking for windows 2000
> Advanced Server, i am looking for the ENTIRE DETAIL  Procedure for
> INSTALLATION
> 
> waiting for your reply
> 
> Thank you
> 
> --
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> Mob : 9820525975

Juber,

This is a mailing list for Freebsd, you should ask on a Windows based
list.

Rob

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Re: Hello

2005-09-17 Thread Chuck Swiger

Roberto Velo wrote:

I just want to ask if FreeBSD has support on online games,like Ragnarok Online 
and others.
Thank You very Much.


Are there online multiplayer games for FreeBSD?  Yes.

I've never heard of "Ragnarok", which presumably is a Windows title, but games 
which are released in a Linux version can generally be made to work OK with 
FreeBSD's Linux emulation support.  See:


http://www.freebsd.org/ports/games.html

Shameless plug: check out BZFlag, also at http://bzflag.org

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Re: Hello

2005-08-01 Thread Emma Sbardella
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Re: hello.

2004-11-22 Thread stheg olloydson
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> I own a small computer & gaming store. i was wondering if you could
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-12 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2004 11:59 schrieb Walker, Michael:
> > The ADSL modem from my ISP I can't get driveers for FreeBSD for.
> > I obviously do have an have an ADSL line, which has a fixed IP.
> > I can ping nothing outside my own network.
>
> Buy a router, and please don't top post in future.

Buy someone who helps you using a reasonable MUA which knows how to build 
correct headers with in-reply-to and references and that, and stop posting 
such messages, regardless of the MUA!

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Greg Barniskis
At 02:55 PM 11/10/2004, Mike Hauber wrote:
Okay, so let's look at this...
ISP -- modem -- rl0 -- fbsd -- sis0 -- LAN
The kernal obviously has the drivers up and running (else
the output of ifconfig wouldn't have shown the interfaces)
For _some_ reason, rl0 is showing a status of "no carrier."
This tells me one of two things...
1.  The cable between rl0 and the modem is not connected.
2.  The cable is faulty.
So far, so good. Also, re: point 2 unless the picture is really like
modem -- [hub or switch] -- rl0
You may need to use a cross pinned cable between modem and rl0.
One may have come with the modem; if you substituted another
ethernet patch cable you had on hand, that may not work. Or vice
versa, if you have put a hub or switch in the mix, you may need to
replace the modem's provided crossover cable with a normal one.

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 08:20 am, Ben Haysom 
proclaimed:
>
> god# uname -a
> FreeBSD god.mshome.net 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE
> #0: Thu Jun  5 02:55:42 GMT 2003
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
> i386
>
> god#  ifconfig -a
> rl0: flags=8843
> mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
> 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::205:5dff:fe42:713e%rl0
> prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:05:5d:42:71:3e
>         media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
>         status: no carrier
> sis0: flags=8843
> mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::240:f4ff:fe59:68ed%sis0 prefixlen 64
> scopeid 0x2 inet 192.168.0.36 netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:40:f4:59:68:ed
>         media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
>         status: active

Okay, so let's look at this...

ISP -- modem -- rl0 -- fbsd -- sis0 -- LAN

The kernal obviously has the drivers up and running (else 
the output of ifconfig wouldn't have shown the interfaces)

For _some_ reason, rl0 is showing a status of "no carrier."

This tells me one of two things...

1.  The cable between rl0 and the modem is not connected.
2.  The cable is faulty.

If the NIC has lights on it, you should be able to tell by 
the status light on the NIC.

>
> god# more /etc/rc.conf
>
> gateway_enable="YES"
> hostname="god.mshome.net"
> inetd_enable="YES"
> sendmail_enable="NO"
> sshd_enable="YES"
> ifconfig_sis0="inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> sendmail_enable="YES"
> nfs_server_enable="NO"
> sshd_enable="YES"
> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.2  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
> linux_enable="YES"
> sendmail_enable="NONE"
> nis_server_enable="YES"
> nis_client_enable="NO"
> rpcbind_enable="YES"
> ifconfig_sis0="DHCP"
> hostname="god.mshome.net"
>

Lots of repeats/changes, but let's see...

You have DHCP set up on sis0, but you do not have DHCP set 
up on rl0.  Is there a reason for this?  I always ran DHCP 
and let the ISP cough up all the info the server needs to 
connect (such as default router).

What it _looks_ like you've done is specify local IP 
addresses to both network cards, and then tried to get the 
server to try to connect to the ISP through the internal 
NIC.  I _think_ what you want to do in this case is as 
follows:

1.  Change the line that says: ifconfig_sis0="DHCP"  so that 
is says: ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"  This way, your internal 
network will be able to communicate with the server again, 
and dhclient will attempt to get the info from your ISP.
      
2.  Go through the rc.conf file and remove repeated and/or 
changed lines.  Make sure that you don't delete the lines 
you want -- only the ones that are unnecessary.  For 
example, if the following three lines are in rc.conf, then 
_only_ the last is applicable.  

sendmail_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="NO"
sendmail_enable="NONE"

I know it may sound picky, but if you cleaned the file up a 
bit, you'll probably see what's going on with more clarity.

3.  Remove the line that says: defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"

That should take care of rc.conf

> god# more /etc/hosts
>
> ::1                     localhost.mshome.net localhost
>
> 127.0.0.1               localhost.mshome.net localhost
> 192.168.1.2             god.mshome.net god
> 192.168.1.2             god.mshome.net.
>

no problems there...

>
> dmesg -a gives a load of stuff... do you really want me
> to post all that?

Actually, not in this case...  I just wanted to make sure 
that your system was picking up on the NICs, and your 
output from ifconfig shows that it had no problem with it.

Let me know how it goes.

Good luck,

Mike
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Nikolas Britton
Ben Haysom wrote:
I'm having major problems setting up my FreeBSD machine as a
router/gateway type thing. Where can I go for help?
 

http://www.m0n0.com/wall/
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Re: Problem connecting with ADSL modem [ was Re: Hello List ]

2004-11-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ben Haysom wrote:

> 80.229.247.29 is my static IP and also my default gateway.
> Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.255
> 
> INTERNET
> |
> |
>ISP
> |default router: ip 80.229.247.79 
> |
> |
> ADSLmodem
> |
> |
> |rl0: 80.229.247.79 (DHCP but static)
>FBSD
> |sis0: ip 192.168.0.2 (static)
> |
> MYNETWORK

1st: There is a typo in the diagram, you can't have the same IP as your
ISP. If this is indeed the case then this might explain things such as
why your server say it's invalid. Where in the diagram is 80.229.247.29?

2nd: The default router is the address where you send your traffic to
hosts that are not directly on your network. If you set this to yourself
then all traffic you send to the Internet newer leave your box.

On your BSD box default router should be the ip of your ISP. This is
normally set automatically by dhclient, or provided by your ISP to type in.

Just jo eliminate any confusion, since your network config has been
changed by running 'dhclient rl0', provide output from the following
commands:

# ifconfig -a
# route -v get default
# ping 
# arp -a

 should be shown by the route command. ping will try to
ping the router, alternatively you can try 'arping '
which will work even if ping is blocked (if you have arping installed).

and also,

# grep dhclient /var/log/messages

(you may remove redundant information, but besure to include the last
entries).

Check that dhclient is running. Stop it and run 'dhclient rl0' again and
see if things are any different. If so, send the changes also.

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Re: Problem connecting with ADSL modem [ was Re: Hello List ]

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
> > That didn't work.
> > I could ping my external IP 80.227.249.79 but not others.
> > Error messages on first screen of main server saying that IP wasn't valid.
> 
> Please, I can't see your screen, I can't see what you are trying to do
> or what you are actually doing, and I can't see the output you get. If
> there is no output, try add verbose flags '-v' and run dhclient in the
> forground with '-d'. Check your logs, see if changes has been applied,
> what is your ip after you ran the command? check with ifconfig.
> 
> See the man pages for the commands you run, there may be addtional flags
> that will print extra usefull information.
> 
> > Now I can't ssh across the internal network to it either.
> 
> From where to where, what has been working? Are your cables attached to
> the correct interfaces? if running dhclient on your external interface
> changes anything on your internal network then a) you have switched
> cables or b) indicated the wrong interfaces in previous post or c)
> things were working in the first place, and I have absolutely no idea of
> what problem you are trying to solve.
> 
> Please be patient and take your time to provide usefull and correct
> information - from my end of the Internet, I can ping 80.229.247.29
> (prev. mail) but not 80.227.249.79.
> 
> Fill out the diagram with interface names, ip and netmask of each
> component ad a ? if you don't have it. Provide the info from your ISP:
> your static ip, netmask, default router/gateway.
> 
> If you want others to help you need to help them help you by providing
> detailed, relevant and correct information - otherwise they may just
> loose interest.

I'm trying!
80.229.247.29 is my static IP and also my default gateway.
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.255

INTERNET
|
|
   ISP
|default router: ip 80.229.247.79 
|
|
ADSLmodem
|
|
|rl0: 80.229.247.79 (DHCP but static)
   FBSD
|sis0: ip 192.168.0.2 (static)
|
MYNETWORK

I don't know what else to give...
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Problem connecting with ADSL modem [ was Re: Hello List ]

2004-11-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ben Haysom wrote:

> That didn't work.
> I could ping my external IP 80.227.249.79 but not others.
> Error messages on first screen of main server saying that IP wasn't valid.

Please, I can't see your screen, I can't see what you are trying to do
or what you are actually doing, and I can't see the output you get. If
there is no output, try add verbose flags '-v' and run dhclient in the
forground with '-d'. Check your logs, see if changes has been applied,
what is your ip after you ran the command? check with ifconfig.

See the man pages for the commands you run, there may be addtional flags
that will print extra usefull information.

> Now I can't ssh across the internal network to it either.

>From where to where, what has been working? Are your cables attached to
the correct interfaces? if running dhclient on your external interface
changes anything on your internal network then a) you have switched
cables or b) indicated the wrong interfaces in previous post or c)
things were working in the first place, and I have absolutely no idea of
what problem you are trying to solve.

Please be patient and take your time to provide usefull and correct
information - from my end of the Internet, I can ping 80.229.247.29
(prev. mail) but not 80.227.249.79.

Fill out the diagram with interface names, ip and netmask of each
component ad a ? if you don't have it. Provide the info from your ISP:
your static ip, netmask, default router/gateway.

If you want others to help you need to help them help you by providing
detailed, relevant and correct information - otherwise they may just
loose interest.

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
> OK, you have configured your external interface with a static ip, and
> from the above line it appears to be wrong. The above ip is? your
> assigned ip? or default router? or?
> 
> Most ISP assign ip dynamically. Try running this command:
> 
> # dhclient rl0
> 
> (rl0 is your external interface right?).
> 
> This should configure your external interface according to the ISP. If
> things works, then edit your rc.conf, set
> 
> ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"
> 
> and remove the "defaultrouter" line. You can tweak dhclient by editing
> /etc/dhclient.conf
> 
> Your ISP should provide you with the following information if you are
> assigned a static ip:
> 
> your ip and netmask
> default router ip (sometimes default gateway)
> list of dns servers
> 
> ignoring the dns-servers, it would draw a better picture of your network
> if you recreate your diagram attaching the assigned ip to each interface:
> 
>   INTERNET
>  |
>  |
> ISP
>  |default router: ip xx.xx.xx.xx
>  |
>  |
>  ADSLmodem
>  |
>  |
>  |rl0:  ip xx.xx.xx.xx (DHCP?)
> FBSD
>  |sis0: ip 192.168.0.xx (static)
>  |
>  MYNETWORK
> 
> You may experience problems using your box as a router if the external
> ip is assigned dynamically.

That didn't work.
I could ping my external IP 80.227.249.79 but not others.
Error messages on first screen of main server saying that IP wasn't valid.

Now I can't ssh across the internal network to it either.
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ben Haysom wrote:

> default router??
> My ISP IP address is 80.229.247.29.

OK, you have configured your external interface with a static ip, and
from the above line it appears to be wrong. The above ip is? your
assigned ip? or default router? or?

Most ISP assign ip dynamically. Try running this command:

# dhclient rl0

(rl0 is your external interface right?).

This should configure your external interface according to the ISP. If
things works, then edit your rc.conf, set

ifconfig_rl0="DHCP"

and remove the "defaultrouter" line. You can tweak dhclient by editing
/etc/dhclient.conf

Your ISP should provide you with the following information if you are
assigned a static ip:

your ip and netmask
default router ip (sometimes default gateway)
list of dns servers

ignoring the dns-servers, it would draw a better picture of your network
if you recreate your diagram attaching the assigned ip to each interface:

  INTERNET
 |
 |
ISP
 |default router: ip xx.xx.xx.xx
 |
 |
 ADSLmodem
 |
 |
 |rl0:  ip xx.xx.xx.xx (DHCP?)
FBSD
 |sis0: ip 192.168.0.xx (static)
 |
 MYNETWORK

You may experience problems using your box as a router if the external
ip is assigned dynamically.

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
> > ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.2  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> > defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
> 
> Are you sure this is right? have you been assigned this ip by your ISP?
> can you ping default router? Try to let dhclient configure your external
> interface and see if you get connection out.
> 
> Maybe ping does not respond, if so, try arping and see if you have any
> other entries in your arp table than your own.
> 

n English please?
I'm still learning tech speak...

default router??
My ISP IP address is 80.229.247.29.
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ben Haysom wrote:

> ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.2  netmask 255.255.255.0"
> defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"

Are you sure this is right? have you been assigned this ip by your ISP?
can you ping default router? Try to let dhclient configure your external
interface and see if you get connection out.

Maybe ping does not respond, if so, try arping and see if you have any
other entries in your arp table than your own.

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
> You don't need a router.  I've had a setup very similar to
> yours in the past (now, I'm on broadband and use OpenBSD
> for my router/firewall/filter)... Any rate, I FreeBSD will
> make an excellent router/more for you.  It just takes a
> learning process.
> 
> Provide the outputs from the "uname -a", "dmesg -a",
> "ifconfig -a", "cat /etc/rc.conf", cat "/etc/hosts"
> commands.  If you have compiled and installed a custom
> kernel, then also provide the kernel ("cat
> "/sys/i386/conf/KERN.NAME.GOES.HERE").
 
god# uname -a
FreeBSD god.mshome.net 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  5
02:55:42 GMT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

god#  ifconfig -a
rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet6 fe80::205:5dff:fe42:713e%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ether 00:05:5d:42:71:3e
media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
status: no carrier
sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::240:f4ff:fe59:68ed%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 192.168.0.36 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
ether 00:40:f4:59:68:ed
media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
status: active
lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

god# more /etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Oct  5 21:37:27 2004
# Created: Tue Oct  5 21:37:27 2004
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
gateway_enable="YES"
hostname="god.mshome.net"
inetd_enable="YES"
kern_securelevel_enable="NO"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="NO"
sshd_enable="YES"
usbd_enable="YES"
font8x8="NO"
font8x14="NO"
font8x16="NO"
keymap="uk.iso"
ifconfig_sis0="inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0"
kern_securelevel="2"
kern_securelevel_enable="NO"
sendmail_enable="YES"
nfs_server_enable="NO"
sshd_enable="YES"
ifconfig_rl0="inet 192.168.1.2  netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sat Nov  6 11:17:58 2004
linux_enable="YES"
sendmail_enable="NONE"
nis_server_enable="YES"
nis_client_enable="NO"
rpcbind_enable="YES"
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue Nov  9 20:18:58 2004
ifconfig_sis0="DHCP"
hostname="god.mshome.net"

god# more /etc/hosts
::1 localhost.mshome.net localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost.mshome.net localhost
192.168.1.2 god.mshome.net god
192.168.1.2 god.mshome.net.


dmesg -a gives a load of stuff... do you really want me to post all that?
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OT: Top posting [ was Re: Hello List ]

2004-11-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ben Haysom wrote:

> What is top posting?

Top posting is when you write your reply _above_ what you are replying
to. This paragraph was posted _below_ the question I respond to.

Among other good practices are: Remove what you are not responding to.
Subject should reflect the content of the message. etc.

All these rules makes it easier for the receipient to read your post and
understand the context of what you are writing. Failing this may make
some people annoyed and annoyed people are generally less helpfull.

Take a look at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html or
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/fyi/fyi28.txt

Cheers, Erik

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OT: Top posting [Re: Hello List]

2004-11-10 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen

[Ben Haysom, 2004-11-10]
>  What is top posting?

A: Because it reverses the natural flow of the conversation?
Q: Why is that bad?
A: To write your raply on top of the original message
Q: What is top posting?


(I find that qouting in a resonable manner is far more important than 
wheter the response is on top or not)

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Mike Hauber
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 05:34 am, Ben Haysom 
proclaimed:

> The ADSL modem from my ISP I can't get driveers for
> FreeBSD for. I obviously do have an have an ADSL line,
> which has a fixed IP. I can ping nothing outside my own
> network.

You don't need a router.  I've had a setup very similar to 
yours in the past (now, I'm on broadband and use OpenBSD 
for my router/firewall/filter)... Any rate, I FreeBSD will 
make an excellent router/more for you.  It just takes a 
learning process.

Provide the outputs from the "uname -a", "dmesg -a", 
"ifconfig -a", "cat /etc/rc.conf", cat "/etc/hosts" 
commands.  If you have compiled and installed a custom 
kernel, then also provide the kernel ("cat 
"/sys/i386/conf/KERN.NAME.GOES.HERE").

There are many possibilities for the server not talking to 
the modem, and it's impossible for anyone on this list to 
narrow those possibilities down unless you provide a 
reasonable amount of information.

Mike

PS  "Top posting" is where you provide your reply to the top 
of the message.  It makes following messages on mailing 
lists _very_ annoying.  Lots of folks on the list are 
sticklers about it, but it _does_ help if replies are 
appended to the bottom of the message (or integrated within 
the message). :)
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
ASCII Sketch:

ADSL---DSL-300Trl0 in Unix Box
   sis0 in Box---Rest
of internal network.
.
rl0 and sis0 are network cards.

What is top posting?
I can't afford to 'buy a router'. The modem wiped me out.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:40:08 + (GMT), Jan Grant
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Ben Haysom wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Thing is, it should be so straightforward, but I've stumped loads of
> > people with it.
> >
> > I have a small home network, atm an XP PC, a XP laptop, and the
> > FreeBSD 5.1 machine.
> > I am connected to the internet with an unknown modem from my ISP.
> >
> > I've bought a D-Link 300 and attched it to the FreeBSD Box.
> > I want to use that to connect to my ADSL, and have the rest of the
> > network share the connction.
> > Part of the network is wireless, the rest standard Cat5 with a 4 port
> > Netgear hub.
> >
> > I can't get it to work.
> >
> > Obviously that ain't enough details, what else do I need to post?
> 
> ASCII sketch of a network diagram (or a better description); what your
> goal for the role of the freebsd machine is (eg, everything talking to
> that as gateway, that doing connection sharing).
> 
> [offlist because it's just a "here's what information you might want to
> supply; please go back to the list with the answers though]
> 
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RE: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Walker, Michael
> The ADSL modem from my ISP I can't get driveers for FreeBSD for.
> I obviously do have an have an ADSL line, which has a fixed IP.
> I can ping nothing outside my own network.
> 
> 
Buy a router, and please don't top post in future.

Mick Walker
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
The ADSL modem from my ISP I can't get driveers for FreeBSD for.
I obviously do have an have an ADSL line, which has a fixed IP.
I can ping nothing outside my own network.


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:23:49 +0100, Emanuel Strobl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2004 11:18 schrieb Ben Haysom:
> > Thing is, it should be so straightforward, but I've stumped loads of
> > people with it.
> >
> > I have a small home network, atm an XP PC, a XP laptop, and the
> > FreeBSD 5.1 machine.
> > I am connected to the internet with an unknown modem from my ISP.
> >
> > I've bought a D-Link 300 and attched it to the FreeBSD Box.
> 
> Do you have your A-DSL line up with that modem? Means, can you ping your
> providers nameserver e. g. from the FreeBSD box?
> Usually you have to set different ATM parameters in such modems (VCI VPI)
> which aren't public in general, so you should stay with your provider's
> modem. Is that a ethernet modem or USB?
> 
> -Mano
> 
> 
> 
> > I want to use that to connect to my ADSL, and have the rest of the
> > network share the connction.
> > Part of the network is wireless, the rest standard Cat5 with a 4 port
> > Netgear hub.
> >
> > I can't get it to work.
> >
> > Obviously that ain't enough details, what else do I need to post?
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:09:27 +0100, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >  Le 10/11/2004 à 10:06:07+, Ben Haysom a écrit
> > >
> > > > I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...
> > >
> > > I think you've better chance to get help if you tell what you want to do.
> > >
> > > And I think if you just say : I need a router whitout more precision
> > > it's not good idea.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Albert SHIH
> > > Heure local/Local time:
> > > Wed Nov 10 11:08:12 CET 2004
> >
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2004 11:18 schrieb Ben Haysom:
> Thing is, it should be so straightforward, but I've stumped loads of
> people with it.
>
> I have a small home network, atm an XP PC, a XP laptop, and the
> FreeBSD 5.1 machine.
> I am connected to the internet with an unknown modem from my ISP.
>
> I've bought a D-Link 300 and attched it to the FreeBSD Box.

Do you have your A-DSL line up with that modem? Means, can you ping your 
providers nameserver e. g. from the FreeBSD box?
Usually you have to set different ATM parameters in such modems (VCI VPI) 
which aren't public in general, so you should stay with your provider's 
modem. Is that a ethernet modem or USB?

-Mano

> I want to use that to connect to my ADSL, and have the rest of the
> network share the connction.
> Part of the network is wireless, the rest standard Cat5 with a 4 port
> Netgear hub.
>
> I can't get it to work.
>
> Obviously that ain't enough details, what else do I need to post?
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:09:27 +0100, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >  Le 10/11/2004 à 10:06:07+, Ben Haysom a écrit
> >
> > > I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...
> >
> > I think you've better chance to get help if you tell what you want to do.
> >
> > And I think if you just say : I need a router whitout more precision
> > it's not good idea.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > --
> > Albert SHIH
> > Heure local/Local time:
> > Wed Nov 10 11:08:12 CET 2004
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
Thing is, it should be so straightforward, but I've stumped loads of
people with it.

I have a small home network, atm an XP PC, a XP laptop, and the
FreeBSD 5.1 machine.
I am connected to the internet with an unknown modem from my ISP.

I've bought a D-Link 300 and attched it to the FreeBSD Box.
I want to use that to connect to my ADSL, and have the rest of the
network share the connction.
Part of the network is wireless, the rest standard Cat5 with a 4 port
Netgear hub.

I can't get it to work.

Obviously that ain't enough details, what else do I need to post?


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:09:27 +0100, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Le 10/11/2004 à 10:06:07+, Ben Haysom a écrit
> > I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...
> >
> > 
> I think you've better chance to get help if you tell what you want to do.
> 
> And I think if you just say : I need a router whitout more precision
> it's not good idea.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> --
> Albert SHIH
> Heure local/Local time:
> Wed Nov 10 11:08:12 CET 2004
>
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen

[Ben Haysom, 2004-11-10]
>  I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...

Well, not to be rude, but it doesn't really help us much either, if you do 
not specify what exactly you tried, what you whish to accomplish, and what 
errors you got.
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 10/11/2004 à 10:06:07+, Ben Haysom a écrit
> I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...
> 
> 
I think you've better chance to get help if you tell what you want to do.

And I think if you just say : I need a router whitout more precision
it's not good idea.

Regards.

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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Ben Haysom
I've tried the hand book, it really doesn't help...


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:02:24 +0100, Emanuel Strobl
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2004 10:45 schrieb Ben Haysom:
> 
> 
> > I'm having major problems setting up my FreeBSD machine as a
> > router/gateway type thing. Where can I go for help?
> 
> First resource is
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
> 
> -Mano
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Re: Hello List

2004-11-10 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2004 10:45 schrieb Ben Haysom:
> I'm having major problems setting up my FreeBSD machine as a
> router/gateway type thing. Where can I go for help?

First resource is 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

-Mano

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Re: Hello !!!

2004-11-05 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Friday 05 November 2004 12:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FreeBSD gnome.kenesh.kg 5.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE #0:
> Thu Nov  4 09:57:07 KGT 2004
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
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> What means this message: kernel: arp: 192.168.10.3 is on rl1
> but got reply from 00:02:44:1b:75:c1 on rl0
> Thank you!
It probably means that you have connected both RL0 and RL1 to the same 
network. On RL1 you have selected an IP address in the 192.168.10.X range, so 
FreeBSD expects packets in the 192.168.10.x-range to arrive at RL1. Now it 
sees packets in the 192.168.10.x-range arriving at RL0 and displays the 
message you are seeing.

grtz,
Daan

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Re: Hello FreeBSD Team I want ask.

2004-10-04 Thread Albert Shih
> --- Jens Holmqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > you need a new openssl version either install the
> > port version or
> > update your install
> 
> what must update? openssl or the program??
>
You need the new version of openssl, for do that you can upgrade your
system by using

make your src update (something like cvsup kernel.cvs)
cd /usr/src
make -DNOGAMES -DNOPROFILE buildworld
make buildkernel (with KERNCONF=your_kernel_config_name if you don't use
generic kernel)
make installkernel (with KERNCONF)
make -DNOGAMES -DNOPROFILE installworld (well in fact the FreeBSD-pro tell
you need reboot after installkernel and pass to single-user to do the
installworld)

After that you have a new and fresh version of openssl.

But you can also use a port for install a newversion of openssl.

Regards.
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Re: Hello FreeBSD Team I want ask.

2004-10-04 Thread Chris Collins
Try..

make install WITH_OPENSSL_BASE=yes
or 
make install WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes

Chris

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:04:07 +0200, Jens Holmqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well either you update the base
> build and install new world which you can read on in the handbook or
> you install openssl port
> 
> On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Nurudin Jauhari
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> > --- Jens Holmqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > you need a new openssl version either install the
> > > port version or
> > > update your install
> > 
> > what must update? openssl or the program??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:40:59 -0700 (PDT), Nurudin
> > > Jauhari
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> > > > I try to install my program via Ports, but
> > > everythime
> > > > I try to use command
> > > >
> > > > make install
> > > >
> > > > always get this error?
> > > > --
> > > > Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains
> > > > known vulnerabilities
> > > > Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE
> > > or
> > > > WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
> > > > *** Error code 1
> > > >
> > > > Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.
> > > > --
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> > > > What should I do to make my installation run well
> > > > and this error can handled
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Re: Hello FreeBSD Team I want ask.

2004-10-04 Thread Jens Holmqvist
well either you update the base
build and install new world which you can read on in the handbook or
you install openssl port


On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Nurudin Jauhari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Jens Holmqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > you need a new openssl version either install the
> > port version or
> > update your install
> 
> what must update? openssl or the program??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> 
> > On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:40:59 -0700 (PDT), Nurudin
> > Jauhari
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I try to install my program via Ports, but
> > everythime
> > > I try to use command
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Re: Hello FreeBSD Team I want ask.

2004-10-03 Thread Jens Holmqvist
you need a new openssl version either install the port version or
update your install


On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:40:59 -0700 (PDT), Nurudin Jauhari
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I try to install my program via Ports, but everythime
> I try to use command
> 
> make install
> 
> always get this error?
> --
> Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains
> known vulnerabilities
> Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or
> WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.
> --
> 
> What should I do to make my installation run well
> and this error can handled
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Nurudin Jauhari
> 
> =
> ::
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> dan semua orang di sekeliling kamu tersenyum.
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Re: install questions (was Re: hello, urgent)

2004-05-20 Thread Bill Moran
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Praneeth Reddy wrote:
my computer has ethernet internet connection. i use
linksys lan card. if i reinstall system i have to
reinstall the lan software. but it says its designed
for windows only. and i want to remove windows because
1 it has virus, 2 it has only total of 2 gb. and i
relly really liked freebsd screenshots. i really want
to use it. please tell me a way to do that
Check here to see if your Linksys card is supported by
FreeBSD:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.9R/hardware-i386.html
If it is listed there, then you don't need any additional
software, the required drivers are included in FreeBSD.
Otherwise, I suggest you start reading the handbook.
Folks like myself have put considerable effort into
putting together this documentation.  I don't really
have the desire to repeat everything that's been done
there:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
Specicifically, the section on installation I pointed
you to earlier.
If, during installation, you hit a _specific_ problem,
don't hesitate to mail this list asking for assistance.
If you do so, please read this document:
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
and follow the instructions there, it will assure you
of the fastest response.
I suspect that English is not your first language. At
the top-right of the FreeBSD.org homepage are links to
other languages.  See if your language is listed there,
it will probably make things easier on you.
Good Luck!
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Please read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
Praneeth Reddy wrote:
i have only 1.38 mb floppy disks, so can i burn
those
2 files into one cd and install it by cdrom.
You have a few choices:
1) if you don't have a CD, you can create two
floppies,
   boot from them and install via ftp over the
internet
2) If you have a CD that will boot, you can burn an
ISO
   image, boot off the CD and do the entire install
from
   CD
3) If you have a CD, but it won't boot, you can boot
from
   floppies (as in #1) then install the remainer of
the
   system from CD

or how do i install with iso files.
See
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
If you don't know how to burn an ISO to a CD, read
the docs for the CD
burning software you're using, all CD burning
software is different.

how much mb does
it take after totall install.
It depends on the type of install.  A minumal is
only a few hundred meg, but
a more practical installation will probably require
a few gig.

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install questions (was Re: hello, urgent)

2004-05-20 Thread Bill Moran
Please read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
Praneeth Reddy wrote:
i have only 1.38 mb floppy disks, so can i burn those
2 files into one cd and install it by cdrom.
You have a few choices:
1) if you don't have a CD, you can create two floppies,
   boot from them and install via ftp over the internet
2) If you have a CD that will boot, you can burn an ISO
   image, boot off the CD and do the entire install from
   CD
3) If you have a CD, but it won't boot, you can boot from
   floppies (as in #1) then install the remainer of the
   system from CD
or how do i install with iso files.
See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
If you don't know how to burn an ISO to a CD, read the docs for the CD
burning software you're using, all CD burning software is different.
how much mb does
it take after totall install.
It depends on the type of install.  A minumal is only a few hundred meg, but
a more practical installation will probably require a few gig.
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Re: Hello

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Re: hello

2004-03-03 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
dimitar georgiev wrote:

hello
can you tell me what is the best freebsd version, also stable for web servers.
 

The best is generally the latest.  Confusion
arises because there are two "branches"
of development, -CURRENT (5.X) and -STABLE
(4.X).
For more information, see the FreeBSD Handbook,
chapter 21.
HTH,

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Re: hello

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, dimitar georgiev wrote:

> hello
> can you tell me what is the best freebsd version, also stable for web servers.
I guess 4.9 -RELEASE is what you want.

Take a look at the excellent documentation on
www.freebsd.org/handbook
to get started.

Have fun!

Uli.

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Re: hello again, devfs, hello

2004-01-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
I don't know if this is required in 4.8 as well, but have you added this
to your kernel configuration?

devicesbc


Cheers,

Jorn

> hi
>  I just wondering if anyone is still out there who cn actually help me
> with the problem I'm having with devfs and my sound card. devfs
> did'nt automatically create any node I would normally expect to find
> , [/dev/snd/;/dev/dsp(although it did create dsp0.0 and 0.1);
> /dev/audio(for the sparc);and /dev/mixer]. now I know that people are
> busy, getting their own sh*t together, however I have been looking for any
> documetation other than the manpage for the last 3 hours on the web and
> haven't found a thing. I have an old dell
> optiplex gx1 with onboard sound that worked fine under freebsd 4.8. I see
> pcm0 in dmegboot, and catting sndstat gives me my card.I just want to know
> what to do to create the necessary nodes step by step... thanks
>
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Re: Hello,

2003-11-12 Thread Mantas S.
[Eng]
Did u tried to boot from floppy?.. instalation from network

[Lit}
Na tu is flopiko kraut bandei? ant kurios vietos freezinasi?

Trečiadienis 12 Lapkričio 2003 09:22, Tomas rašė:
> Hello,
>
> I'm just wondering why I couldn't install FreeBSD 5.1 (I've tryed 4.9
> also) on my Sony PCG-GRX550 notebook. When I insert boot disk, it tries to
> load setup to install FBSD and freezes and I can do nothing but restart.
> I've searched the internet for answers about solving this problem but still
> I don't have any answer. Maybe you have any solution to my problem.
> Thank you!
>
> Sincerely,
> Tomas Paplauskas
> Lithuania
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Re: Hello!

2003-10-10 Thread David L
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 11:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   Hello, my name is Erik and I have a great love for alternative OS's, and
> I just want to comment on FreeBSD 5.0 and how I like it so far. Ever since
> I got FreeBSD 4.4(sometime ago?!), I have had reccuring problems with some
> parts of the installation. As far as the main installation goes, that is
> working GREAT! But, with the KDE desktop and the X server, I cannot get a
> perfect 100% install of the x server. My current monitor is a Gateway 2000
> Vivitron, I believe its a 17 inch monitor.. I inputed the correct Vertical
> and Horizontal frequencies as well as the correct video card I have, but
> for some reason X server does not provide a signature file for ATI RAGE
> FURY PRO 32 MB video card. What to do!??!? I donnot want to blow my monitor
> or card!! Also, I have a sound blaster 16 PCI card(PNP), and even 5.0
> FreeBSD still reports it as UNKNOWN DEVICE.. What can I do to resolve these
> errors so that I can migrate 100% over to FreeBSD and abandon Winblowz by
> Microsoft??
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Firstly, soundcards need to be compiled into the kernel, there not there by 
default. 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

This section of the handbook goes through setting up a soundcard on freebsd. 
Basically you add a line into your kernel configuration file, in the case of 
your sound card

device  pcm

and recompile the kernel. That simple, just make sure you read the handbook 
section. 

With reguards to your video problems, you really need to provide more 
information. usually

- what you see 
- paste the contents of /etc/X11/XF86Config
- paste the contents of /var/log/XFree86.0.log

and this should help in you getting  a answer.


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Re: Hello!

2003-10-09 Thread Jud
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:40:27 EDT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
Sorry, I can't tell you a solution for your video card problem - you might 
try the text mode configuration and see if one of the generic or generic 
ATI cards matches closely enough.

Also, I have a sound
blaster 16 PCI card(PNP), and even 5.0 FreeBSD still reports it as 
UNKNOWN DEVICE..
Add "device pcm" (no quotes) to your kernel, recompile, and reboot.

Jud
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Re: hello

2003-06-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 02:43:35AM +0400, Tenkoff wrote:
> Hello freebsd-questions,
> 
>   how i can add my software to ports collections?
>   where i can get information about this?

Start by reading the Porter's Handbook --

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
This will tell you how to create the port directory with it's
Makefile, pkg-descr and pkg-plist (and possibly other) files.

Once you've developed a port skeleton that works correctly and that
portlint(1) is happy with, you can submit it via send-pr(1) -- see
section 2.6 of the Porter's Handbook for details.  It's a good thing
to volunteer to be the port's Maintainer as well as just submitting
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Re: Hello

2003-01-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:05:00AM -0800, amar contractor wrote:
> You'll have to excuse the ignorance of my question.  I
> guess that would be the best way to put it.  In trying
> to one your releases I saw that you can install from a
> dos partition..  What I don't understand is what files
> i'm supposed to have there.  I can't use an ISO image
> to burn a CD at the moment. 
> 
> When reading the 5.0 instructions, it makes reference
> to a bin/ directory where the files are supposed to be
> located.  Unfortunately.. I can't seem to find it.  

It's supposed to be the base/ directory.  Can you please file a PR
showing the location of the incorrect documentation?

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Re: hello

2002-12-03 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:55:14PM +0800, ?? ? wrote:

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>I have a request.Can I build a new website that take place of the 
> original one in China. I introduce my background. I am working for a big 
> network company in Guangdong Province,China. I am much experienced in 
> building and administrating many kinds of website,including 
> hardware,software etc.

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Re: Hello, freebsd inquiry

2002-07-23 Thread Edwin Groothuis

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 03:23:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have windows me and am looking forward to installing freebsd. I would like 
> to have the ability to choose my operating system at bootup. Is this a 
> possibility with free bsd? And if not which linux os is for me?

You can during installation say that you want to use the FreeBSD
bootmanager. If you reset the computer you will be given the choice
on what to boot.

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Re: Hello

2002-07-17 Thread Matthew Seaman

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 03:25:18PM +0530, Rathnakara U M wrote:

> I would like to download the source code for FreeBSD release 4.3, But I
> could not follow the link where exactly I can find the source code. I would
> appreciate If u could help in this regard.

There isn't a specific web site where you can download the 4.3-RELEASE
source code.  The closest thing there is to that is the CGI interface
to the CVS repository at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/#dirlist

That's not really feasible for downloading quantities of source code.
Instead, use cvsup to pull the appropriate sources out of one of the
many copies of the FreeBSd CVS repository.

Here's how to use cvsup: 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

which has a list of hand cvsup mirror sites.  Unfortunately there
seems to be no FreeBSD cvsup mirror in India but I'm sure you can find
one relatively near by in network terms.

To obtain the sources for 4.3-RELEASE, use a supfile like this:

*default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

This is based on the 'stable-supfile' in /usr/share/examples/cvsup ---
you may find some interest in the other supfiles in there.

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