Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Runtime

2024-05-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Good "netiquette" is to only discuss one topic per email thread, so I started a new thread for Runtime: On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: [..] > *Runtime* > > Jim's version is a small C program, 120 lines, using catgets > for messages which can be translated in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Terminal

2024-05-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Good "netiquette" is to only discuss one topic per email thread, so I started a new thread for Terminal: On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: > Willi has asked Jerome and me whether RUNTIME and TERMINAL > in the auersoft.eu versions were real updates or just tests.

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together coming up (Sunday)

2024-04-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I wanted to remind everyone of the upcoming FreeDOS virtual get-together, happening on Sunday, May 5 at 11am US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). I'll share the link when the meeting starts. As before, we'll use Google Meet. We alternate topics

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:33 PM Han Held via Freedos-devel wrote: > > For anyone interested, Neozeed has a youtube video that he put up that walks > through the steps of fetching dos 4's source from github and building a > bootable copy of it. > [Compiling MS-DOS 4.0 using DOSbox & Qemu] > I

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
To correct myself: I was getting a bunch of unrelated errors because I made a mistake in my SETENV.BAT file. I set the CL, LINK, and MASM variables to point to the executables (similar to what you might do on Unix makefiles with CC, CFLAGS, etc) But those variables are options to those commands

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: [..] > > But when I try to build it, it fails in the MAPPER directory with > > "line too long": > > [..] > >> cd ..\mapper > >> nmake > >> > >> Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 2:28 PM Jim Hall wrote: > [..] > How did you compile it? I'm having trouble getting the compile to work. > > Here's what I'm doing: I've booted my system using FreeDOS but using > their tools. My C: drive is FreeDOS, and my D: drive is empty except > for

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > Microsoft and IBM released the source code of MS-DOS 4.0 under MIT > > license [1]. To me, it looks fairly complete. On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 2:25 AM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Everything but himem, dosshell,

[Freedos-devel] The new FreeDOS wiki

2024-04-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I wasn't able to finish copying over the content from our old wiki to the new wiki before SourceForge applied another update to their web server, which completely broke the old wiki. But I copied over most of the wiki before then. Two things that are obviously missing are two setup guides:

[Freedos-devel] Edlin [was: libm-0.7 Released!]

2024-04-14 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Tom Ehlert wrote: > > btw: do you have a lot of communication about EDLIN? Gregory Pietsch wrote: > > I did have a lot of communication about Edlin when it was first released, but > not as much anymore. I actually use Edlin, and I do so without irony. It's great if you run a command and want

Re: [Freedos-devel] libm-0.7 Released!

2024-04-13 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 12:35 PM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Submitted for your approval, the latest version of libm, FreeDOS's > public domain math library, has been released! For this version, > I have worked on edge cases regarding complex numbers and dug deep > into the C99

Re: [Freedos-devel] I16GCC would need DJGPP, but DJGPP not present in FDT2404 (fixed!)

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:20 AM Jim Hall wrote: > The DJGPP environment variable just needs to point to a file called > DJGPP.ENV (or whatever) that contains a bunch of environment settings > for programs that were compiled with DJGPP. For example, this file > contains stanzas for GN

[Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Based on my other email about getting IA-16 GCC to work on T2404 without installing DJGPP, I propose adding a new package in T2405 called I16ENV that just has two files in it: /devel/i16gnu/djgpp.env /devel/i16gnu/setenv.bat The DJGPP.ENV file contains just: DJDIR= And the SETENV.BAT file sets

Re: [Freedos-devel] I16GCC would need DJGPP, but DJGPP not present in FDT2404 (fixed!)

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 5:46 PM Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote: > > But installing I16BUTIIL, > SET DJDIR=C:\DEVEL\I16GNU > i16gcc -o hel2.exe hel2.c > works! > [..] The DJGPP environment variable just needs to point to a file called DJGPP.ENV (or whatever) that contains a bunch of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Wiki

2024-03-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 5:25 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi, > > Apparently, the (old) FreeDOS wiki on sourceforge is down or broken. > > After visiting the FreeDOS.org website, navigating to “Read the > wiki” and waiting, I just get a blank page after redirection to the > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FETCH4FD

2024-03-23 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:23 AM Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Neofetch is a good way to give you a quick overview of the machine's > parameters. It's perhaps more of a gimmick under DOS, but in a unix > environment it can be a godsent. When I was database administrator at > Infineon

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS wiki updates + questions

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Wednesday, March 20th, 2024 at 10:09 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > [..] > > What to do about the "Networking How-to"? This is a collection of > > pages that wasn't written as a typical "wiki" page (every page in a > > wiki sho

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS wiki updates + questions

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I've been moving the FreeDOS wiki content over by copy/paste. And I've finished almost all of the tricky pages .. then it's a collection of small pages (mostly usage pages for programs) which I think should go quickly. Then I'll add wiki editor accounts for anyone who wants them. The new wiki

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM Jim Hall wrote: > >> > >> Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today!

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! > > This call was really just "social time" so we spent a lot of time > catching up with one another. > > The next virtual get-together wi

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! This call was really just "social time" so we spent a lot of time catching up with one another. The next virtual get-together will focus on "technical." That's a great opportunity to do live debugging, work through issues, and

[Freedos-devel] Here's the meeting URL

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'll start the get-together in a few minutes, but here's the URL for anyone who needs it: FreeDOS virtual get-together (social) Sunday, March 10 · 11:00am – 12:30pm Time zone: America/Chicago Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/eua-spwn-euy Or dial: ‪(US) +1

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: virtual get-together

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone Don't forget about this morning's virtual get-together! We are on Daylight Saving Time in the US. It's 9:00am now, so that means the meeting is in two hours from now (11:00-12:00). See you then! ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A quick status on migrating the wiki: I set up a new Wikimedia instance on a new wiki.freedos.org host this week, and yesterday I started to copy content from the old wiki into the new wiki. This is a copy/paste exercise for a few reasons that I've explained in another email, but here's a

Re: [Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:53 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Just wanted to share that I'm (finally) migrating the FreeDOS Wiki > content. I've set up a new wiki instance on a new server, and I'm > going through the list of pages on the old wiki, and copy/pasting the > content

[Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Just wanted to share that I'm (finally) migrating the FreeDOS Wiki content. I've set up a new wiki instance on a new server, and I'm going through the list of pages on the old wiki, and copy/pasting the content on the new wiki. That sounds like a lot of work, but a lot of the content needs to be

[Freedos-devel] Website has moved to new hosting

2024-03-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FYI that the www.freedos.org website has moved to new hosting. It's still at the same website hosting company, but on a new server. (This was the web hosting company doing a planned replacement of the old hardware.) Things look like they have moved over okay, I don't see any issues. They are

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I wanted to send a reminder of our upcoming FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday, March 10. Same time as usual: from 11am to noon US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). However, note that March 10 is also the start of US Daylight Saving Time, so

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
And I just saw the typo in DOSLFN.CON ... should be DOSLFN.COM I don't have LFN loaded, so I didn't see this come up. :-P Jerome: If you accept this for the next test release, please fix my typo. :-) ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Resending with FDAUTO.BAT as a file attachment (renamed FDAUTO.TXT) so it's easier to try out the config. Jim @ECHO OFF REM - Updated AUTOEXEC file REM - set basic environment set DOSDRV=C: set DOSDIR=%DOSDRV%\FREEDOS path %DOSDIR%\BIN if not exist %DOSDIR%\LINKS\NUL goto NOLINKS path

[Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone The new T2403 release prompted me to finish updating the FDAUTO.BAT file. Quick background: This started because I was looking to prevent the CTMOUSE driver from loading .. but it was a bit hard to read the FDAUTO file. So I simplified it on my end. This should do everything the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDISK 1.3.14

2024-02-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Excellent news! I'll post an item on the website about it. I can't login to Ibiblio from where I'm at right now, so I can't mirror it - maybe someone else with Ibiblio access can do that for me. Otherwise I'll mirror this to Ibiblio over the weekend. Jim On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bernd

Re: [Freedos-devel] NewDOS source code has been published!

2024-02-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:39 AM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I forgot to mention that there is another great new thing: NewDOS and its > source code is free since 2024-02-06! > NewDOS itself is freeware since 2018. > > You can grab it here:

[Freedos-devel] Directory cleanup on Ibiblio

2024-02-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FYI that I've done a little reordering in the 'dos/debug' directory on Ibiblio. We actually have three versions of DEBUG here, so I wanted to make clear which was which: The change: Because it was the "original" FreeDOS DEBUG, we had each version of Vojta's DEBUG as a separate directory under

[Freedos-devel] Updated news items

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm assuming folks check the website pretty regularly for various news - but in case not, I wanted to share these news items you may have missed about recent program updates. I try to stay up to date on new programs coming out, but I'm sure to miss some things. If a program has a new version out,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Xcopy 1.5

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
it, share that news on the email list. On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 11:14 PM Jim Hall wrote: > I noticed over on the BTTR forum, Fritz asked this question about Xcopy > 1.5. But freedos-devel is really the best place to discuss FreeDOS > distribution topics, so I wanted to start a thread here to

[Freedos-devel] Xcopy 1.5

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I noticed over on the BTTR forum, Fritz asked this question about Xcopy 1.5. But freedos-devel is really the best place to discuss FreeDOS distribution topics, so I wanted to start a thread here to make sure the question was asked in the right place: Fritz asked: >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Talking about Soundblaster emulation

2024-02-15 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Since SBEMU (and I assume VSBHDA - I haven't used it) are working well to provide sound support on modern systems, I wonder if we should include it in the next version of FreeDOS - whether we call it "FreeDOS 1.4" or "FreeDOS 2.0." What do folks think? Do you use SBEMU or VSBHDA? What has been

Re: [Freedos-devel] Talking about Soundblaster emulation

2024-02-15 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 6:49 AM Eric Auer wrote: > Hi! > > Just noticed this video review and tutorial about making a FreeDOS > boot stick with SBEMU on it, with Rufus in Windows, based on the > FreeDOS 1.3 USB version: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKYcpXlGIM > > It just renames setup bat

[Freedos-devel] Removing MetaDOS from the files archive (Ibiblio)

2024-02-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm sharing this as an FYI. We used to mirror a copy of Rugxulo's MetaDOS (from 2019) at the FreeDOS Files Archive on Ibiblio. However, when it became too outdated (and to remove confusion with the FreeDOS distribution) we eventually marked the directory as "private" which effectively made it

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Not really about internationalization, so I'll make it a separate email: Whenever you quit Edlin, you always get this prompt: > *q > Abort edit (Y/n)? y I always find it a little concerning when I've already saved my file and Edlin asks if I want to "abort" my edit. It always makes me answer

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Gregory Pietsch wrote: > Believe me, I've had a few headaches over the years regarding NLS. This > led to the myriad of ways to do NLS in Edlin. Anyway, all the strings > that would need to be translated are #defines in msgs.h, and I included > a simple filter program to generate msgs.h files from

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem booting FreeDOS on Book8088 PC-XT laptop

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
roytam wrote: [..] > and as discussion in > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=21061, FreeDOS > can boot on Book8088 once FreeDOS' LBA support is disabled. This may > because of XT-IDE BIOS and/or Xi8088 BIOS handling when Int 13h,AH=41h > running twice by FreeDOS kernel. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 12:40 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Interestingly, when you left the online meeting, it kept going at > least for a few seconds until I clicked end-call. > > I don’t know if it would have kept going indefinitely. > > We will have to try that next

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated HTML Help

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
One question I have is: is there a zip file where I can download all of HTML Help at once, to view on my local computer? I checked on your website starting at https://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/help110/ and I couldn't see a link to a zip file. On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:34 AM Jim

[Freedos-devel] Updated HTML Help

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I didn't see Willi's email to freedos-devel because it was part of an unrelated topic, so I am re-sharing his email under a new thread to raise visibility. Willi wrote: > As english help is completed now, i only have to run final things to reduce > size and to look for bugs etc. It would be

[Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/kca-qufs-api I'll see you there in fifteen minutes! Or dial: +1 515-318-5132 PIN: 587 730 560# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/kca-qufs-api?pin=1068170768202

Re: [Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Well, that email didn't get sent out on time ("fifteen minutes") ... sorry for the delay. Meeting is starting now. :-) On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) > > Google Meet joining info > > Video call link: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package data fork, sort of

2024-02-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric This is a really interesting effort and I think it would be good to find a way to get Willi's efforts integrated somehow into the changelog for the monthly test releases. But as you've mentioned, there's a lot of overlap here. I think the right place to start is to talk about it. But we

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem booting FreeDOS on Book8088 PC-XT laptop

2024-02-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric! I'm glad you're bringing this conversation back to freedos-devel .. because this is a good place to discuss FreeDOS things. Eric Auer wrote: >> >> Hi! As you may have read, some company has created an eeepc sized PC-XT >> laptop called Book8088. It ships with MS DOS on a CF card. Bocke

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Here's my second pass at cleaning up my FDAUTO.BAT file. If you like it, feel free to use it. This does a lot of streamlining from the "stock" FDAUTO.BAT in T2402. I've pared it down to just a few jump points that are more readable to me: HIGH, LOW, and LOCALCFG. At a high level, it's organized

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:30 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I've been testing the new 2402 release, and decided I finally wanted > to streamline (cleanup?) the FDAUTO.BAT file to make it more readable > and easier to see what's happening. > > First, here's my te

[Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone I've been testing the new 2402 release, and decided I finally wanted to streamline (cleanup?) the FDAUTO.BAT file to make it more readable and easier to see what's happening. First, here's my text description of what's going on in FDAUTO. I'll reply with a copy of the FDAUTO that I'm

Re: [Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2024-01-31 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Did you decide on the new conferencing software? > I have a Google Apps subscription and Google Meet does a good job, doesn't require installing client software, and it doesn't "cut off" after a half hour. (When's I googled it, it looked like Meet would limit you to 30

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > I am working on an academic project that requires understanding the MAD > > programming language so I can pick apart (and faithfully recreate) an old > > MAD program. That's the Michigan Algorithm Decoder, from 1959 and the early > > 1960s. tom ehler

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
[..] Jim Hall wrote: [..] > > I'm thinking about writing a book about the early history of document > > preparation systems, and RUNOFF seemed a good place to start. I want > > to faithfully recreate the MAD code in another programming language - > > not an automate

Re: [Freedos-devel] Aw] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:51 PM Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > https://wiki.edu.vn/wiki17/2021/01/05/mad-programmiersprache-wikipedia/amp/# > > I dont know if this helps, run a translator if necessary > That's very cool, thanks for sharing that. The "amp" page didn't work for me, but I could access

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 8:07 PM Jim Hall wrote: > >> I am working on an academic project that requires understanding the > >> MAD programming language so I can pick apart (and faithfully recreate) > >> an old MAD program. That's the Mich

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Book8088

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
[resending without photo attached] On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 2:06 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Very helpful. I thought it might be something like this. I'll update the bug > with your info. > > Mind if I copy your photo into the bug report to show that it's working? > > On Tue,

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Book8088

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A user entered a bug that FreeDOS won't boot on the Book8088. https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/391/ > Hi. I got myself a Book8088 2.0 recently. It's a Chinese retro computer > with a NEC V20 processor, 640 kb ram and a CF card as a storage. It uses > Sergei Kiselev's BIOS_8088 with XTIDE

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 8:07 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I am working on an academic project that requires understanding the > MAD programming language so I can pick apart (and faithfully recreate) > an old MAD program. That's the Michigan Algorithm Decoder, from 1959 > and

[Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I am working on an academic project that requires understanding the MAD programming language so I can pick apart (and faithfully recreate) an old MAD program. That's the Michigan Algorithm Decoder, from 1959 and the early 1960s. MAD is similar to original FORTRAN, but there are some things that

Re: [Freedos-devel] Is there an open source fmt clone for DOS?

2024-01-27 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 6:29 PM tauro via Freedos-devel wrote: > > This seems to be exactly what you're looking for. > > https://www.bttr-software.de/freesoft/unix.htm > > Under "GNU Textutils", you will find fmt. > > Here's a direct link for a 16 bit version: > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] [OT] Text-mode Windows 11

2024-01-27 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:20 PM Aitor Santamaría via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hello, > > Off-topic (as it is WinNT), but in this video, the author claims to > have built a text-mode 100MB small Windows 11. It is shockingly slow, > but it is still fun to see a text mode OS stripping the GUI. > >

[Freedos-devel] Is there an open source fmt clone for DOS?

2024-01-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm looking for a way to keep my text files (like README.TXT) tidy and easy to read. One problem is that if I modify a plain text file in a regular text editor, and change the line length in the middle of a paragraph, now I have to fix all the lines around it so the lines are all about 77

Re: [Freedos-devel] Question about edlin

2024-01-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 11:24 AM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > FD edlin ignores a leading space. If you want the leading space to be > searched for, put the string in quotes; e.g. > > 1r"written"," written" > > The reason why I didn't stick a ^Z there is because I wanted to get >

[Freedos-devel] Question about edlin

2024-01-21 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I actually do use edlin sometimes. But I have a question that might actually be a bug report: When I try to search and replace text, and I want to add a space in front of my replaced text, I can't get it to work. Am I doing this wrong? Here's an example: In this 1-line file, I want to edit the

[Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2024-01-19 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I promised to propose the next virtual get-together after the holiday break, so here it is. :-) How about Sunday, February 4 for the next get-together? That's three Sundays from now. Time is 11am to noon US/Central, same time as always. And we'll probably go over that, because we

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2401

2024-01-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 7:46 AM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2401 for January is now available for > download at: > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ > > Although this update consists of only a few simple

Re: [Freedos-devel] Learning DOS assembly programming

2023-12-31 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone for sharing their advice on learning assembly programming. I've started exploring how to write assembly programs in NASM. I'm not looking to write anything "big" in NASM, just learn enough about it so I can write a few programs here and there. Thanks also to Danilo for pointing

Re: [Freedos-devel] FYI: Website update happening this week

2023-12-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I added the OpenWatcom compilers and NASM links to the https://www.freedos.org/about/devel/ page earlier today. So now we have three "info boxes" that call out the open source compilers (OpenWatcom and NASM) that we recommend for working on FreeDOS. The other tools are listed below that in the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FYI: Website update happening this week

2023-12-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 12:42 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Well done, > > one suggestion I oversaw the first time I looked at the new site: On > https://freedos.org/about/devel/ I would change the order of the > compilers, otherwise people could get the impression that DDS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FYI: Website update happening this week

2023-12-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
at 1:39 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > FYI: I'm in the middle of the website move, and something got stuck. > > Right now, you can visit http://www.freedos.org/ and see the new > website, but https://www.freedos.org/ (note the "https" instead of > "http") is showing &

Re: [Freedos-devel] FYI: Website update happening this week

2023-12-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
n't get updated for https when the move happened. I have a support ticket open for the site hosting folks to fix this. On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:02 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I wanted to let everyone know that I'm planning to (finally!) put the > new website "live" in the next few d

[Freedos-devel] FYI: Website update happening this week

2023-12-27 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I wanted to let everyone know that I'm planning to (finally!) put the new website "live" in the next few days. This is the updated version of the website that I've shared via email several times over the last year or so. The "test" version of the new site is here, if you want to preview it:

[Freedos-devel] Learning DOS assembly programming

2023-12-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I actually never learned DOS assembly programming, but decided I'd like to start. What assembler do you recommend, and where is a good place to start learning about DOS assembly programming? Start with a "Hello world" program and eventually move up to writing an assembly version of TYPE and

[Freedos-devel] Merry Christmas to everyone

2023-12-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, to all who celebrate! Also looking forward to 2024! ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

[Freedos-devel] Streamlining the next FreeDOS Test distribution

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
(I'm re-sharing this note from my get-together "followup" email so more people will see it) We talked again about the test release, and focusing the LiveCD to something you can boot and run FreeDOS without installing it to a hard disk, but also having all the "core" packages on it so you can

[Freedos-devel] Working on the new website

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
(I'm re-sharing this update from the virtual get-together "followup" email so others will see it) We experimented with a few things on the new "test" website at https://test.freedos.org/ The test website currently shows the classic logo (we were experimenting with it) but I'll change it back to

[Freedos-devel] Online get-together follow-up

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone for joining the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! We had a small group (probably because of the holidays) but we had a great conversation about the new website, asking about kernel updates, updates to the distribution, and our upcoming 30th anniversary on June 29 2024. Let's

Re: [Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together (December 17)

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
: ‪(US) +1 484-424-4824‬ PIN: ‪279 172 798‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/spq-kkvy-bgn?pin=6012394617441 See you then! On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 6:03 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > Just a reminder about tomorrow's virtual get-together. See you online > at 11am US/Cent

Re: [Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together (December 17)

2023-12-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Help website says Chrome, Firefox, Edge, or Safari: https://support.google.com/meet/answer/7317473?hl=en#meet_browsers On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 7:02 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > Thanks to Jerome for reminding me to schedule the next FreeDOS virtual > get-together. L

[Freedos-devel] Updating the FreeDOS website

2023-12-11 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
The last time we made a major update to the FreeDOS website was maybe ten years or so. Things are definitely feeling a bit dated, such as certain design elements. And over time, we've added content where it seemed to "fit" so the usability has degraded since the last update. I have been

[Freedos-devel] Question about USBDOS license

2023-11-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Someone else asked me about the USBDOS license. This person highlighted a note in the USBDOS license that suggested "if your website collects money, then you can't distribute USBDOS" - and the person asked about the Patreon link on the www.freedos.org website. So I thought I'd share my reply

[Freedos-devel] Question about JEMM license

2023-11-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A user emailed me to ask about the license for JEMM. We list this as "Artistic License" on the website, but JEMM includes a few public domain components. https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/jemm.html I wanted to share my reply to this person on the

[Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together (December 17)

2023-11-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! Thanks to Jerome for reminding me to schedule the next FreeDOS virtual get-together. Let's do the get-together on Sunday, December 17 at 11am US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). We are no longer using BlueJeans. They are shutting down that

Re: [Freedos-devel] Monthly Get-together

2023-11-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
We didn't set a date after the last one. I recall I also commented that I have a conference coming up and some other things that would have made a November video get-together difficult for me. (I need all the time I can get this week, and the next few weeks.) How about we try for December? Like

[Freedos-devel] FOSDEM '24 Emulator Development Room - call for presentations

2023-11-13 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
*Is anyone planning to attend FOSDEM? It would be great to have someone talk about FreeDOS, I think a lot of folks would be interested.* *Here's the invite for their call for presentations:* -- Small update, moved the CFP URL to here:

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS Edlin 2.23 is out on Sourceforge!

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
t; > > On 11/12/2023 11:07 AM EST Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks! I always love a new Edlin release. :-) > > > > I've mirrored it on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. Here's the link: > > https://ibiblio.org/pub/micr

Re: [Freedos-devel] New FreeDOS Edlin 2.23 is out on Sourceforge!

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks! I always love a new Edlin release. :-) I've mirrored it on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. Here's the link: https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/edlin/2.23/ For anyone interested, the video Gregory mentioned is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yapAepxbaT4

Re: [Freedos-devel] libm-0.6 and libmpi-0.2

2023-11-12 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! For anyone who needs more info: libmpi is a Multiple Precision Integer library, and libm is a C math library. Both are public domain. You can find both on the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio, under /files/devel/libs/libm and /files/devel/libs/libmpi. Thanks Gregory! Here are the

[Freedos-devel] abcmidi and abcm2ps

2023-11-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Ben Collver emailed me about these music players, and I wanted to re-share here: >> from https://archive.org/details/abcmidi-20231101-for-dos abcMIDI is a package of programs written in C for handling ABC music notation files. The software was created by James Allwright in the early 1990 and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Phishing attack - warning!

2023-11-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
So now phishers are pretending to be FreeDOS emails. That's pretty targeted phishing (aka "spear phishing" where attackers customize the email to be very specific to the recipient). Thanks for sharing. I haven't seen this, but I'll watch for it now. On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 4:39 AM Wilhelm Spiegl

Re: [Freedos-devel] Help Development with djgpp

2023-10-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Walter Oesch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > From Code: > > if(_setvideomode(_SRES16COLOR) == 0) /* Switch to 800*600 mode with 16 > colors */ > { > printf("\n\nVideo mode not supported!!!\n"); > printf("Maybe the VESA driver has not

Re: [Freedos-devel] Help Development with djgpp

2023-10-24 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM Walter Oesch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Dear Eric > > Hear some facts of my project: > > I work for embedded software on the board Vortex86DX 800MHz. > I need at least SVGA graphic (800X600). > I prefer to work on Ubuntu 20.04 Linux (no Windows) > The target

Re: [Freedos-devel] Calculator for DOS with GUI

2023-10-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:12 PM Pedro Luis Carballosa Mass via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi. > > The software is a basic calculator for DOS programmed in QBasic, the > calculator is not complete because he lacks some icons and it only > works with mouse, but this is due to that is part of a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Steve said: > I can't see what would need to be on base to make it more than about 20 > MB? And even that's pushing it hard. > > Maybe because I'm measuring by PC DOS 2000, which came on 6 floppies. > The FreeDOS distribution has a "LiveCD" component that allows users to boot the CD. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I did a quick comparison of the packages on the FreeDOS 1.3 distribution (both Live and Bonus) and the FreeDOS T2310 distribution (Live and Bonus). And the differences in packages (added and dropped) were as expected, so that's good. :-) Then I added up the package size on T2310, both Live and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim wrote: > I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build > T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment > package on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compile > with IA-16 GCC, you need to set the DJGPP environment variable to a >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim Build T2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environment package on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compile with IA-16 GCC, you need to set the DJGPP environment variable to a DJGPP.ENV file. Or is

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