Re: [Freedos-user] Backscroll
dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: […] You can get a copy of the PC Mag archive with it and some other things here: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pcmag/v13n07.zip I'd like to note that this archive could be accessed via the HTTP protocol just as well, e. g.: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/simtelnet/msdos/pcmag/ -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sfd.am-1.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) My only hesitation for E-o is that I'm a bit rusty (I'm no professional, by far). I'm not fluent in it, either. […] So a very rough translation of the latest FreeDOS blurb on the main page that Jim mentions ... FreeDOS estas senkosta/libera DOS-kopia masxinestro kio estas uzebla tiel: aux por ludi, aux por havi pra-masxinojn, aux por subteni malgrandajn masxinetojn. FreeDOS estas plejparte simila al maljuna MS-DOS sed pli bona! Ekzemple, malgraux MS-DOS, FreeDOS permesas FAT32 formon kaj uzadon de granda registrila metodo (LBA). Actually, my point was that I need the note in Russian, but if someone could write it in English or Esperanto, I could translate it myself. Anyway, the Esperanto variant above seems quite readable (though I feel that a few fine points were lost in translation.) […] -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: […] I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) Well, you can feel free to borrow text from our web page: FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA). I'll happily re-use this as the basis for a version of such a note (though I'd like to expand it a bit, and perhaps replace “like the old MS-DOS” with “like the older PC DOS systems”, avoiding an arguably unnecessary reference to non-free software), but I'd like to distribute the result under a free license (such as, e. g., CC BY-SA), so that our flyers will by themselves be free works. This makes me ask: am I permitted to do so? (The GNU project is notable for their use of licenses like CC BY-ND, which disallow the creation of derivative works, while we, obviously, need our flyers in Russian, which, indeed, means that we have to create derivative works, or to avoid any use of the material from their Web pages whatsoever.) -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: (The GNU project is notable for their use of licenses like CC BY-ND, (… for their Web pages…) which disallow the creation of derivative works, while we, obviously, need our flyers in Russian, which, indeed, means that we have to create derivative works, or to avoid any use of the material from their Web pages whatsoever.) I wrote the web page content I quoted, so I think I'm safe in giving permission here. You can use this under CC Attribution (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/) the same as our images on http://www.freedos.org/images/ Attribution for the text can be www.freedos.org. ACK, thanks! We're somewhat limited in paper space (the flyers are to be printed on A6 sheets), so the attribution is likely to end up being typeset in fine print. Still, it will be prominently stated in the LaTeX source [1] for the flyers. [1] http://styldeks.am-1.org/~ivan/archives/git/gitweb.cgi?p=sfd-flyers-2012.git -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Software Freedom Day 2012
Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org writes: PS. Are there any promotional materials (flyers, posters, videos, etc.) for FreeDOS that we can use on our Software Freedom Day celebration next month, BTW? Hi. You can feel free to use any of these logos: http://www.freedos.org/images/ You can use them under the CC license, and we've got them in svg format to make it easy to turn them into banners or posters and not lose resolution. ACK, thanks. I'd try to collect whatever free software-related free logos I'd be able to find on the Web, and print them on stickers to be given away at the event. Also, we've decided [1] to populate the reverse sides of our “Join us on SFD-2012!” flyers with short notes on various free software packages, like (translation from Russian is mine): VLC Multipurpose free video player, with distinguishing features being the support of a multitude of formats, the independence of third-party codecs, the ability to work with stream video (including webcams), and also the ability to work with different playback libraries (such as FFmpeg.) Has numerous and various configuration parameters, but has an intuitive user interface at the same time. I wonder if someone could write such a short note on FreeDOS? (In either English or Russian. Or in Esperanto, but that'd force me to use a dictionary.) [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.foss.sfd.planning.ru/89 Also, please don't include PS for an unrelated topic, as the right people may not see it. Makes sense. Thanks. -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] networking: virtio, NFS?
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: I'm interested in running multiple instances of FreeDOS within QEMU. So, my questions are: • QEMU offers a “simplified” networking hardware (AKA virtio); is there a packet driver for it for FreeDOS? Dunno, doubt it, esp. if it's not just standard stuff and needs special code. Well, my guess is that virtio should need much less code than, say, ne2k. And with GNU/Linux as the guest, it runs considerably (as in: times) faster. IIRC, most people use Crynwr's NE2000 there. BTW, I was unable to find any Crynwr's packet drivers on the FreeDOS 1.1 image? (quoting old email from Erwin): qemu -L . -m 64 -hda freedos.img -boot c -hdb fat:c:\fat -net nic,model=ne2k_pci -net user ACK, thanks! Somehow, I've ended using mkdosdisk.sh to create ~/tmp/dos-exchange.image (thus -hdb ~/tmp/dos-exchange.image), which I access with Mtools from the host's side, like: $ grep -F -- dos-ex .mtoolsrc drive x: file=/home/private/users/ivan/tmp/dos-exchange.image partition=1 $ mdir x: Volume in drive X has no label Volume Serial Number is 2599-F805 Directory for X:/ … […] PS. Are there any promotional materials (flyers, posters, videos, etc.) for FreeDOS that we can use on our Software Freedom Day celebration next month, BTW? Online files to download (and print out) or actual physical copies? I'm sure it'd be both faster and cheaper to print it ourselves than to wait fo delivery, so I'm interested mainly in files. http://www.freedos.org/images/ ACK, thanks. http://www.zazzle.com/freedos -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] NFS-booting FreeDOS?
Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] BTW, what host OS are you planning to use QEMU? IIRC, most development is targeted towards Linux. But our own Bernd often tries to use it atop Windows. The latest Win32 (unofficial) build I can find (1.1.1-1) is here, though I haven't tested it: http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/ I'm not that interested in W32, but here's the plan: • the FreeDOS 1.0 “Live” image is, in fact, two images: one that gets booted by MEMDISK and contains the necessary software to access CD, and the CD image itself; • replacing the CD driver with an XFS one, I'd be able to use an NFS server instead of a CD image; • the NFS shared (read-only) directory may be hosted on either a private or public NFS server; • assuming that there's such a public NFS server, and also an HTTP one to host a few KiB's iPXE script, the whole matter of booting FreeDOS boils down to, say: $ qemu \ -kernel ne2k_pci.lkrn \ -net nic,model=ne2k_pci \ -net user,bootfile=http://192.0.2.34/diskless/ipxe/world-default In the example above, ns8390.lkrn is a version of iPXE for NE2000 PCI, compiled as a zImage (should there be virtio driver for FreeDOS, that'd be virtio-net.lkrn and model=virtio, respectively), and it's the /only/ file (beyond QEMU itself, and perhaps a script containing the command line above) that has to be loaded to access FreeDOS (and not only FreeDOS, check, e. g., [1]) this way! Hopefully, this would work on all systems able to run QEMU. [1] news:868vdc1kyb.fsf...@gray.siamics.net http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.cpm/msg/ff454d8479391542 • I've seen mentions of XFS — a (free software?) DOS NFS client; where could it be obtained from? Never heard of it, but I'm far from network savvy. A quick search shows these sites: […] http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/hope.eunet.lv/pub/msdos/nfs http://fossies.org/windows/misc/dos/old/ ACK, thanks! I've also found the following one: http://files.chatnfiles.com/Power-Dos-96/network/tcpip/general/ I'm yet to check whether it works or not. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] networking: virtio, NFS?
I'm interested in running multiple instances of FreeDOS within QEMU. So, my questions are: • QEMU offers a “simplified” networking hardware (AKA virtio); is there a packet driver for it for FreeDOS? • I've seen mentions of XFS — a (free software?) DOS NFS client; where could it be obtained from? TIA. PS. Are there any promotional materials (flyers, posters, videos, etc.) for FreeDOS that we can use on our Software Freedom Day celebration next month, BTW? -- FSF associate member #7257 http://sf-day.org/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [lazy] FreeDOS @ http://www.sf-day.org/: logos? distributions?
Oleg O Chukaev oleg-chuk...@yandex.ru writes: But note that I'm looking for /free software/ games, not merely /freeware/ ones (i. e., «free as in freedom».) The particular intent is that those interested in programming could be given Minesweeper and Sokoban clones: http://chukaev.ru54.com/soft/mines.zip http://chukaev.ru54.com/soft/pusher.zip Thanks! Actually, most of the software at [1] could be useful for the event just as well, as almost everything has an explicit free software license notice. (With the sole exception being CLK.) [1] http://chukaev.ru54.com/progi.htm -- FSF associate member #7257. SFD in Barnaul: http://sfd.am-1.org/ pgpiI426JeMri.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [lazy] FreeDOS @ http://www.sf-day.org/: logos? distributions?
dos386 dos...@gmail.com writes: Are there any tiny free software games for FreeDOS? Star Tetris by Narech Koumar http://st2.narechk.net/index_en.html Unfortunately, nowhere I see any explicit conditions under which it's to be available. (And note that being freeware doesn't imply being free software. Am I free to sell it? am I free to change it? or to borrow the code for a free software project? or for a proprietary one?) (it advertizes DOG-BOX rather than FreeDOS ...) I'm somewhat proud that I've managed to obtain EGAint sources. Developed in 1989, that Tetris clone was released under the then current GNU GPL v1! http://cd.textfiles.com/ems/emspro17/disk1/PASUTIL/EG0519S.ZIP -- FSF associate member #7257 pgpNO4cKJYtU3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Automate Storage Tiering Simply Optimize IT performance and efficiency through flexible, powerful, automated storage tiering capabilities. View this brief to learn how you can reduce costs and improve performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-sfdev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [lazy] FreeDOS @ http://www.sf-day.org/: logos? distributions?
d == dos386 dos...@gmail.com writes: Unfortunately, nowhere I see any explicit conditions under which it's to be available. There are, RTFL: The game *STAR TETRIS II* is copyright (C) by Narech Koumar, Supernar Systems, Ltd. This game is a freeware and may be copied, given away, uploaded to internet and/or local network servers provided that no charge is taken for the above said actions or for letting people playing the game. ACK, thanks! So, it's not free software. And note that being freeware doesn't imply being free software. Note that the word free had existed before FSF was brewn ;-) Luckily, the “Software Freedom Day” name has a bit more explicit connection to “freedom”. Would it be “Software Giving-for-Free Day”, I would consider this game, but it definitely isn't. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 pgp5M6JuZvjMV.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
