Re: [Freedos-user] HTGet rewrite for mTCP
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: On 7/25/2011 6:52 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Thanks for creating this. It means you're pretty close to a basic WGET, and also reminds me why I never liked HTGET: no support for FTP and REDIRECT/MOVED. URL parsing seems fine. Not sure if/how HTGET would respond to HTTPS:// Example URL (responding with 403 / Moved): htget -o c:\fdbootcd.iso http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test2/fd11tst2.iso still HTGET will have its uses, just need to find specific files first :) Bernd In this particular example HTGet returns the following: Server return code: 301 Moved Permanently New location: ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test2/fd11tst2.iso HTGet parsed the headers correctly and even told you where to get the new content. But the new location is FTP only. I would call that an error on the part of the admin who moved it. ;-0 There is a nice, scriptable FTP client though ... Maybe a stupid idea, but couldn't HTGet just call you FTP client in case of a FTP-URL and let that one handle the download and keep the rest inside HTGet? Mike -- Magic Quadrant for Content-Aware Data Loss Prevention Research study explores the data loss prevention market. Includes in-depth analysis on the changes within the DLP market, and the criteria used to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of these DLP solutions. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51385063/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Packet Driver
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 10:03 -0700, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 09:00 AM 7/18/2011, Karen Lewellen wrote: The wireless network uses MAC address control. That's a complete waste of time. Every IP packet includes the senders MAC address in clear text, so any school boy can get your MAC address with a sniffer and use it in his own setup. It soo easy to fake IP packages. Mike tomdean -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Packet Driver
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Thomas D. Dean tomd...@speakeasy.org wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 19:16 +0200, Mike Eriksen wrote: The network is in a semi-remote location - no kids! There is only one other wireless network I can detect, with a marginal signal level. The machine will provide a data stream that will not end the world if it stops. So why bother in the first place? Mike tomdean -- Operator of the Danish TS-O-Matic. http://thinstation.org - a light, full featured linux based thin client OS -- AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on Lean Startup Secrets Revealed. This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Thanks
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: On 6/22/2011 9:15 AM, Marcos Favero Florence de Barros wrote: Hi Mike, Thanks for mTCP! I experimented with it yesterday for the first time, and it took me just 15 minutes to get started, in spite of my near complete lack of internet experience (except of course web browsers and email clients). This also means that your manuals are well written, so my compliments for that too. Because I am now obsessed with idling the CPU by means of FD-APM, I tried your FTP with the DPAKBD program. It worked well, and CPU idle time was above 90%. And, last but not least ... the bug report! This is about SNTP. My Time Zone variable is set to UTC+3 (Brazil). The program did correctly set my clock to 3 hours behind Universal Time Coordinated, but on-screen it said UTC instead of UTC+3: --- mTCP SNTP Client by M Brutman (mbbrut...@yahoo.com) (C)opyright 2009-2011 Version: May 30 2011 Resolving pool.ntp.org, press [ESC] to abort. NTP server ip address is: 187.49.33.15, resolved in 0.00 seconds Your selected timezone is: UTC Current system time is: 2011-06-22 10:09:54 (etc.) --- Regards, Marcos Marcos, I am glad that you found the documentation usable - I spend a lot of time on the documentation, so it is good to know that it is time well spent. SNTP uses Open Watcom to do the time zone calculations. According to the Open Watcom documentation, the TZ environment variable follows this format: std_offset_dst_offset_,_rule (underscores are added for readability) Std and dst are time zone designations. The +3 that you are adding is an offset. So when Open Watcom parses the environment variable is sets your time zone as UTC and the offset as +3 hours from coordinated universal time. Timezone is what SNTP is printing out. I think this is a matter of working as designed. I might add some more output to make it more clear, but it probably is not a bug. (If you use the verbose flag on the program it will tell you the timezone offset in seconds explicitly.) Regards, Mike If SNTP works anyway like in Linux/UNIX then the computer takes its hardware clock as UTC. If the hardware clock is offset to local time it will be misinterpreted. The poor computer doesn't have any conception of UTC by itself, it only knows its hardware clock. UNIX computers always runs UTC in hardware no matter where on earth they are placed. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Licensing issues
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: The problem ofcourse is getting a more powerful/modern operating system on a internet-connected yet stand-alone machine. Resorting to making USB sticks bootable (any 100% way to do so?) and testing them, or getting SATA optical drives is such a burden. If Linux counts as a more powerful/modern OS I yet haven't failed to make a bootable USB key. It may require some brute force like wiping the entire disk out with zeros and then start from scratch - partitioning, putting on a MBR, formatting and eventually put Syslinux on it. But for updating a BIOS (Free)DOS is fine unless you have one of those new fancy boards. Mike -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote: Mike Eriksen wrote: Graphics or X11? I'd be surprised about GUI stuff. Sure, I've tried BasicLinux and DamnSmallLinux, even briefly TinyCore, but they all seem to be too minimal or have other issues. I'm not saying it can't be done, but, 99% of the time, it never worked right for me. Oh yes X11. Not the newest version (only x.org 6.9.0) so it won't support the newest cards 3D capabilities. But it is important to realize it's a thin client so it does exactly the same as DOS itself: not very much and certainly not gcc. But you get X11, mouse, menus (window manager), networking (including samba and NFS), sound and an image will be below 10 MB if you are careful. For most users around here a thin client isn't of much use. I just wanted to point out that a Linux system easily runs on 32 MB RAM if you know what you are doing (sorry). Is there more info on the net about your project? http://thinstation.org But you really have to understand it's a thin client and is exactly as useful as a fresh DOS installed from a couple of floppies: not very much. Except it comes natively with X11, networking blah blah. Mike Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: I think that FreeDOS is a funny project and I like it. On rare occasions I need it for BIOS upgrade on Linux boxes. But frankly unless you have some unique binary software that only runs on DOS, Linux is a far better choice on any hardware made the last 20 years. Not necessarily the heavyweights like Ubuntu and friends but others exists too. Neither XP nor light Linuxes typically run well (if at all) in even 128 MB of RAM, so saying 20 years is a bit of an exaggeration, even 10 years isn't supported well. I'm not knocking Linux, just saying, I've honestly tried, and it doesn't always work on such old machines. But your mileage may vary (and of course I can't test 300+ distros). I'm not here to advocate Linux in one way or another. I like FreeDOS and that's why I keep signing up on this mailing list. But claiming Linux is struggling on 128 MB is way out. My email address gives away I'm involved in a Linux thin client and this one runs happily with 24-32 MB RAM on and no hard disk. With graphics, mouse, networking, USB support, audio support blah blah. FreeDOS is still relevant and I like it and I love following it. Mike -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why I use FreeDOS
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: Neither XP nor light Linuxes typically run well (if at all) in even 128 MB of RAM, so saying 20 years is a bit of an exaggeration, even 10 years isn't supported well. I'm not knocking Linux, just saying, I've honestly tried, and it doesn't always work on such old machines. But your mileage may vary (and of course I can't test 300+ distros). I'm not here to advocate Linux in one way or another. I like FreeDOS and that's why I keep signing up on this mailing list. Obviously. And there's nothing wrong with using Linux or even discussing it here (ahem, DOSEMU). Even all the bigwigs in FreeDOS use it heavily. Even I'm on it now (Lucid Puppy 5) on this old P4 (mostly because my laptop's wifi flaked out, again, both in Windows and Fedora, go figure, though it was fine yesterday). But claiming Linux is struggling on 128 MB is way out. I tried two liveCDs, and both wouldn't even boot in 128 MB of RAM. Granted, like I said, I can't try 300+ distros, but most of the light ones specifically say they are targeted at 128 MB or more. Most anything less is only using older tools and esp. kernel (2.4, 2.2), which is far from ideal. My email address gives away I'm involved in a Linux thin client and this one runs happily with 24-32 MB RAM on and no hard disk. With graphics, mouse, networking, USB support, audio support blah blah. Graphics or X11? I'd be surprised about GUI stuff. Sure, I've tried BasicLinux and DamnSmallLinux, even briefly TinyCore, but they all seem to be too minimal or have other issues. I'm not saying it can't be done, but, 99% of the time, it never worked right for me. Oh yes X11. Not the newest version (only x.org 6.9.0) so it won't support the newest cards 3D capabilities. But it is important to realize it's a thin client so it does exactly the same as DOS itself: not very much and certainly not gcc. But you get X11, mouse, menus (window manager), networking (including samba and NFS), sound and an image will be below 10 MB if you are careful. For most users around here a thin client isn't of much use. I just wanted to point out that a Linux system easily runs on 32 MB RAM if you know what you are doing (sorry). Mike GCC alone can sometimes eat up 100s of MB of RAM for relatively small source files. (I'm actually thinking of a specific case using G++ here, so it may not be totally accurate. But you get the idea.) It really all depends on what you want to do. I'm just saying, the days of low RAM usage are over. People don't even bother testing on old machines anymore, only whatever they can find, which is usually new stuff with gigs of RAM. So while an expert or two may know how to do it (LFS?), typically canned distros fail miserably. Please don't take this the wrong way (as most do, despite my best attempts), it's just very frustrating for me. There is no easy (obvious) solution. FreeDOS is still relevant and I like it and I love following it. Good! And I guess you know my feelings :-) -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Operator of the Danish TS-O-Matic. http://thinstation.org - a light, full featured linux based thin client OS -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Discover what all the cheering's about. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-dev2dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Add folder and files to ISO image
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, spacemarc spacem...@gmail.com wrote: hi users, I need to run a .exe app (to upgrade firmware) when FreeDos is booted. I edited the fdfullcd.iso image with IsoMaster, added my folder and files (not in root directory), rebuilded the FreeDos ISO and remastered on CD. On the boot FreeDos starts fine, but i can't see my folder and my files! Linux solution: Get the Balder floppy image of FreeDOS: mount -t vfat -o loop balder10.img superfloppy Add the BIOS imagewriter and the BIOS image in the superfloppy folder umount superfloppy mkisofs -o superfloppy.iso -b balder10.img balder10.img Burn the iso. Mike Why? where I wrong ? Regards. -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Large drives with 4k sectors presenting as 512b?
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Jack gykazequ...@earthlink.net wrote: A REAL BUS, you say?? If so, then explain to me why, on so many Intel-based systems, there are so many PCI BRIDGES!! If it were a real bus, there would be only ONE bus, NOT so many bridges to yet-another set of wires for God-Knows-What! My guess is that only adds cost and complexity, which an ordinary user like me might hope to AVOID! No, you are wrong. PCI is a real bus and a real bus needs at bridge to decouple the bus frequency from the core frequency. That was the main failure of the VL-bus that it was hooked directly to the CPU base-frequency. Horrible poor design. Also PCI introduced the the PCI ID number so we poor souls had a chance to identify the hardware. The ISA days were horrible and should just be forgotten. However I agree that the PC/x86 design is a POS in the first place, but DOS depends 100% on it (and that's why most of us use Linux today). -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: [CUT] If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get wget done? +1! Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have set up my FreeDOS PC and everthing is working just fine except for the audio (ok I pray to God someday there will be a way to play DOS games with sound under plain DOS) Now I want to connect this PC to a Windows/SMB share to speed the file transfer. Right now, I have to burn a CDRW in one machine and use it in the FreeDOS PC. What I think I need in my DOS PC: 1. A network card (duh!) 2. A driver for the card 3. A packet driver for the card 4. mTCP (for DHCP) 5. some software to connect the DOS to SMB. IMHO, not quite so. 2 and 3 is one point, If you can't get a packet driver for your NIC, you are forced to fight with NIDIS 2. Have fun... Ad 5) Well, depends... Windows for Workgroups ( and the DOS add-on DOS for Workgroups) originally worked through the NETBEUI protocol, not TCP. From win95 and forward a parallel TCP communication channel got added to Windows Networking. So even though you can get TCP up and running with FD, you still need a FD front end to translate NETBEUI net use * \\server\share into TCP. Such a front end may exist, but I don't know one. 1. My laptop has 2 network interfaces: - Broadcom BCM401 10/100 Broadcom :-) Have fun. Mike - Intel Wireless 3945 a/b/g For now, I will discard the wireless option, I'll stick to the wired option. 2. In the Broadcom site, there are 3 DOS drivers for the Broadcom BCM401 10/100: NDIS2, 16 ODI, 32 ODI. Reading in the web, ODI is for Netware and Apple. NDIS2 is for Microsoft networks. What do I need? Or I need a fourth option specific for FreeDOS? 3. I think a packet driver is the same than the network driver, please help here. 4. mTCP seems to be easy to configure. 5. Finally what package do I need to connect the FreeDOS to a SMB share (assuming all previos steps are working fine). I can read the docs, but I have to know what package to look and investigate. Thanks for your help. Santiago -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the reply and link, I downloaded mTCP, So I guess I have to install this, some how and then I can reinstall freedos and dhcp should configure? Install it on top of FreeDOS - first FD then mTCP. I only used it once last summer so I'm not experienced, but at that time it was trivial. Just read the docs. Mike I have to read the files that came with mTCP, Thanks again, any help with setting this up would be great. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 4:00 PM, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, When I installed freedos, I have a MacBook pro running Mac os x snow leopard, the install got hung up on dhcp configuration. I tried several times where I entered the settings manually edited the configuration file manual and chose the default with no luck. Most everything else got installed, I was able to get to the c drive etc., I went into the lynx directory and tried to start the lynx executable. But it wouldn't start. My computer said no such directory, even though the lynx file is an executable? So I am wondering 1. Is there anyway to configure dhcp? Either by reinstalling or setting it up now? 2. If I can't configure dhcp, why did my computer say no such directory when I tried to launch lynx? Like is dos installed properly? Any help would be appreciated. Did you install a TCP stack in the first place? That doesn't come natively. If not this one is a (good) possibility: http://www.brutman.com/mTCP/ Mike -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dhcp
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: hi! Thanks for this as it answers the usb question I posed a while back. Karen On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On 1/12/11, James Collins james.collin...@yahoo.com wrote: The part of the email that goes from where? I don't have in my email. I have a folder on my desktop on my MacBook pro that I want to copy into freedos. I copied the folder to an external USB floppy on my laptop. But freedos isn't recognizing it. FreeDOS doesn't directly support USB, even at the best of times. You need a separate driver, e.g. http://www.bretjohnson.us ... but I'm not sure that'll work for your Mac. Well, I got USB working with several USB chip sets except VIA. It was news to me too that James intended to run FD in a VM on an Apple. I think as Rugxulo the project is... challenging :-) -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: Anyone know why there's no simple bootable floppy image available in the downloads section of http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/, one that could format and/or sys C:? Really? What does the very first line of that page say? Mike -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Help: USB drivers for USB mass storage devices
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Lee Eric openlinuxsou...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there any good USB drivers for USB mass storage like USB flash disk? I hope the driver can support USB 2.0. http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/newsitem/149.html I can't get it to work with VIA chip sets, but otherwise it's fine. Thanks very much. Regards, Eric -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondation of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Someone plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: I question whether TCP/IP is the best way to go in a DOS environment. That depend on your needs. Been a member of the Thinstation Linux thin client team, I have all the lightweight Linux I could wish. My original need came from the need to BIOS upgrade a floppyless Ubuntu box. I ended up by adding the DOS flash program and the BIOS image to a Balder image, make an ISO of it and problem solved. Not very elegant. So I decided to explore if I could make a boot floppy with USB support so I could put the flash program and BIOS image on a writable device and not have to create a new ISO every time (not that it happens often, but now it got a pet project). Having reached this, I wanted more: the ability to download the flash program and the image directly with wget or even a text browser. This is a bit hard to accomplish without TCP/IP :-) I've put the network stack, applications and packet drivers on the floppy due to size restriction on the floppy. It isn't quite working yet, but I think I just need to put a bit more time into it. I see no fundamental obstacles now. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Balder: Can't move system files into \fdos
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: kernel.sys Tom Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid you have to spell it out. There is no kernel.sys in the Balder image - at least not any that can be seen by a ls -al or find. the 'at least' part is important. and moving kernel.sys into a subdirectory is a bad idea Argh! I must have gone blind... It's not kernel.sys but KERNEL.SYS and that's a difference to a unix guy. Anyway I should have spotted it. It works now - thanks. Mike -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client
I have had great fun the last couple of day remembering DOS and enjoying the progress FD has made to plain old DOS. So far I have a boot floppy with support for both ATA and SATA CD-ROM and USB sticks. Very satisfying. But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this guide: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think, at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM. But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for. Could someone please point me in the right direction. I somewhere read that the FTP Software Inc suite is freely available, but I can't find it. Mike -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.de wrote: Mike Eriksen wrote: But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this guide: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think, at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM. But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for. Did you read the other pages at http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS? Robert Riebisch Yes, but apparently I missed mTCP entry thats looks perfect. I'll have to investigate. Thanks a lot for the hint. Mike -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Willi Wasser wiw...@web.de wrote: E . . . first i don't quite understand why you need an NDIS(2) driver _and_ a packet driver? A packet driver suitable for your network card allone should already do the job. Neither do I, but I must admit it's 15-20 year ago I did DOS networking and frankly I remember very little. I decided to follow the guide on the mentioned freedos page and thus ended up with both NDIS and a packet driver. I assume I can lose the protman.* and the protocol.ini as well as netbind then? There are quite a number of TCP/IP stacks for DOS out there, many of them are commecial products. Rather popular and free, is WATTCP written by Erick Engelke, although it isn't a stack in the proper sense. Rather it's a library of TCP/IP routines that is linked directly into the application programs. For the user of such programs this doesn't make much difference. Basic programs, like PING, TRACEROUTE, an FTP-client etc. come with it. It isn't that difficult to set-up. All you need is a packet driver and a configuration file and there you go. An alternative might be the set of programs Mike Brutman wrote for his mTCP projects, which is also frtee. Yes, I think I'll try this one out first. It new and sexy, but agreed WATTCP is tested and tried. We'll see. Last, but not least, you might have a look on some of the networking programs i wrote which you will find here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ I'll have a look for sure. Thank you. Mike -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
