Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi all, found a promising project under www.boodaa.de There you will find an application called bootdisk2bootstick v0.8. This application can create a bootable usb stick using a bootable floppy image. The only problem is that the usb stick is only 1.44MB in size after that, but it is bootable. In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not know exactly how to change the mbr. Perhaps someone of you can help him out. Rgds Norbert - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:13 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote: Hi all, found a promising project under www.boodaa.de There you will find an application called bootdisk2bootstick v0.8. This application can create a bootable usb stick using a bootable floppy image. The only problem is that the usb stick is only 1.44MB in size after that, but it is bootable. In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not know exactly how to change the mbr. Perhaps someone of you can help him out. Rgds Norbert - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Thanks for the info. I will try it. Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Well, the MBR is special program located at sector 1 head 0, cylinder 0 with datastructure for partition information. The code for detecting active Partition is 446 bytes long and then follow the partition table entries (4 of them): bootabledb ? ; Indicate active partition slice beginhead db ? ; Starting head (0 for primary DOS) begsector dw ? ; systemcode db ? ; Tells which OS owns it endhead db ? ; set to (65535) for maximum coverage sectorend dw ? ; ditto... startsector dd ? ; logical LBA Address of drive partition start I set it to 0 would still have to over come 512MB bios limit though? www.boodaa.de ... My mono-linguistic brain cant read deusche very well:-\ you can pass it on to him. --chris http://www.aotksc.com/ Original Message In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not know exactly how to change the mbr. Perhaps someone of you can help him out. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art, attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-strorage device attached to the usb controller. the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and the sys command for making the usb stick bootable. Hope that helps. Norbert. P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Norbert, if you had REALLY sent the file to the list, then 95% of the many readers of this MAILING LIST would have been quite angry at you now because their mailbox got flooded with an unrequested large ISO file. So it is good that you did not manage to send the file through the list. As a general rule, please do never send ANY files to the list. Just send messages. Thanks! Eric attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-storage device attached to the usb controller. the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and the sys command for making the usb stick bootable. P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
please remove my email from list ! tnkx !! - Original Message - From: Norbert Remmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved) Hi Art, attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-strorage device attached to the usb controller. the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and the sys command for making the usb stick bootable. Hope that helps. Norbert. P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
HI Michael: Once the USB stick is bootable, you can copy the DOS files needed to the USB stick manually from Windows (or Linux). If you have FreeDOS installed to a hard disk partition somewhere, you could copy the files from there. If I wanted the full FreeDOS installation, I'd install it to a hard disk partition first and then copy all of the files on the partition to the USB stick under Windows (or Linux). Mark Michael McStarfighter wrote: How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an Invalid Opcode and then it stops. So what to do ? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Got interuppted on this subject, but back on it now. I have got two USB sticks formated with the HP program. Can read and write to both as fat32 from Linux or Windows. Downloaded the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS and have them available. How ever, I tried the links in Mark Baily's last email http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html But had no success with any of them. Here is what I have. A full freedos image (about 150 MB) running under qemu. I want to mount it and add the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files and edit the config.sys file. Image is in /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img and runs fine under qemu except I can't do much with it since it does not see the USB drives. I have a folder /mnt/freedos Now, what is the exact syntax I would use to do this loop thing and mount /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img on /mnt/freedos I tried a number of variations on the commands in the links above, but somewhere, I am not getting it quite right. TIA Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art, I think you can try mount -t vfat -oloop /opt/freedfos/freedosfile.img /mnt/freedos Geraldo On 16/10/06, Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got interuppted on this subject, but back on it now. I have got two USB sticks formated with the HP program. Can read and write to both as fat32 from Linux or Windows. Downloaded the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS and have them available. How ever, I tried the links in Mark Baily's last email http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html But had no success with any of them. Here is what I have. A full freedos image (about 150 MB) running under qemu. I want to mount it and add the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files and edit the config.sys file. Image is in /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img and runs fine under qemu except I can't do much with it since it does not see the USB drives. I have a folder /mnt/freedos Now, what is the exact syntax I would use to do this loop thing and mount /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img on /mnt/freedos I tried a number of variations on the commands in the links above, but somewhere, I am not getting it quite right. TIA Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an Invalid Opcode and then it stops. So what to do ? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Has anyone thought of breaking the freedos.iso image into zip archives and allowing users to download it in peices? would be better than messing around with cdrom image files of megabyte proportion? --chris http://www.aotksc.com/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved) From: Michael McStarfighter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, October 16, 2006 2:37 pm To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an Invalid Opcode and then it stops. So what to do ? - - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 - ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
uhh, that's been done for a few months. look at [distro dir]/pkgs (like www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs) On 10/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone thought of breaking the freedos.iso image into zip archives and allowing users to download it in peices? would be better than messing around with cdrom image files of megabyte proportion? --chris http://www.aotksc.com/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved) From: Michael McStarfighter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, October 16, 2006 2:37 pm To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an Invalid Opcode and then it stops. So what to do ? - - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 - ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art, I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make bootable DOS USB sticks. If you have access to a Windows computer, it would be worth a try. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html This utility is the right and easiest choice for a windows system, but there is another possibility that might work on linux as well. The only thing I don't know is how to create a floppy image file under linux or a bootable iso-file with floppy emulation because I'm not working with linux based systems. I know that you can use a floppy image file in BOCHS and change its content. Even if BOCHS is extremely slow you might consider this as a chance under linux. What you need in the end is a bootable iso file with either 1,44MB or 2,88MB floppy emulation. At first you will need this file: http://tinyurl.com/ybehot This selfextracting archive contains the latest USBASPI.SYS V2.20 from Panasonic. The next thing you need is the following file: http://tinyurl.com/y9zhkv This archive contains the file DI1000DD.SYS V2.0 from Novac. Add the following commands to your CONFIG.SYS file: DEVICE = USBASPI.SYS DEVICE = DI1000DD.SYS These drivers will recognize your usb stick as a harddrive during freedos boot process. Put Freedos FDISK and FORMAT into your created image-file to be able to partionate and format your usb stick. Further on you will need the freedos system files in your image. Use SYS to make your usb stick bootable. If your bios already supports bootable usb sticks you won't need the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files because the bios itself will use the usb stick as a harddrive and that's why you can directly use your usb stick under freedos. Don't try to separate you usb stick in more than one partition. That won't work at all. If you don't manage to create a bootable iso-file under linux don't hesitate to ask. I will do that for you under windows and send you a ready iso. Norbert. P.S. The only thing I don't understand is why FREEDOS in both above mentioned cases is somtimes (not always) complaining about suspect CHS partition parameters during the boot process. But in the end everything works fine. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Norbert Remmel wrote: The only thing I don't know is how to create a floppy image file under linux or a bootable iso-file with floppy emulation because I'm not working with linux based systems. Norbert. Use mkisofs. See http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/help/mkisofs/mkisofs.htm (The same utility is available on Windows also). I have found booting with ISOLINUX more reliable than direct floppy disk emulation for DOS CD's. mkisofs -o output.iso \ -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ root-of-iso-tree use memdisk, and create the appropriate isolinux.cfg file. To boot the floppy disk image directly, use something like mkisofs -b boot.img -c boot.cat -o cd.iso boot.img \ other contents of CD This is the same command I use under Windows. The easiest way I've found to manipulate floppy disk images under windows (for free) is the VFD program that mounts the floppy disk image as a floppy disk drive (with drive letter) and lets you use Windows to manipulate it. http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html To do this under Linux, use the loop device. See http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html or http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html Mark - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Giving up for tonight. Installed Freedos 1.0 under QEMU in SuSE 101. Go through the exersize of crating Freedos on the USB stick, it installs, I can boot it in qemmu. Pull it out, and put it in the laptop and boot, comes up with no OS. Cannot see any files on the stick with ls on either sdd or sdd1. When I boot the usbstick in qemmu, it comes uip C:. How can I add files to the qemmu freedos image? Had no success on even doing this. Cannot see with ls either since it is a .img file. Can you really copy files to and from Freedos? If so, how? Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 20:21 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Art: Well, if the ls command from Linux sees the DOS files on the USB stick (that are booting) on either /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1, then doing a cp to the appropriate device, where Linux should now see the DOS files and the ones you added, should put the files you want on a large USB disk. When you boot the USB stick, does it boot as A: or C:? It should boot to that prompt and a DIR command should show the DOS files (at least kernel.sys and command.com). Does it? Are you using the new FreeDOS 1.0 release? There was a nasty bug with booting USB sticks on machines without floppy disk drives in some earlier FreeDOS versions. Mark Art Fore wrote: I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other than a CDROM with freedos. If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do that? If I could, I would be there. Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A: If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the first harddrive and cannot change harddrives. So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the CEROM. (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos cdrom} Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
On 10/12/06, Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] How can I add files to the qemmu freedos image? Had no success on even doing this. Cannot see with ls either since it is a .img file. Can you really copy files to and from Freedos? If so, how? Art A Qemu image can be loop-mounted under linux, see: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu#Mounting_the_hard_disk_image hth, -- mitu - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Bernd Blaauw wrote: Art Fore schreef: [...] Furthermore there's some tool from HP to configure flash USB disks to make them bootable. [...] Bernd Hi Art and Bernd: I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make bootable DOS USB sticks. If you have access to a Windows computer, it would be worth a try. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html If your goal is just to run this one flash utility, you may want to use a bootable DOS CD with the CD driver installed and just put the files on the CD. This could be a modified fdbasecd.iso file which already has a CDROM driver. Mark - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other than a CDROM with freedos. If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do that? If I could, I would be there. Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A: If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the first harddrive and cannot change harddrives. So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the CEROM. (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos cdrom} Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services,
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)
Hi Art: Well, if the ls command from Linux sees the DOS files on the USB stick (that are booting) on either /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1, then doing a cp to the appropriate device, where Linux should now see the DOS files and the ones you added, should put the files you want on a large USB disk. When you boot the USB stick, does it boot as A: or C:? It should boot to that prompt and a DIR command should show the DOS files (at least kernel.sys and command.com). Does it? Are you using the new FreeDOS 1.0 release? There was a nasty bug with booting USB sticks on machines without floppy disk drives in some earlier FreeDOS versions. Mark Art Fore wrote: I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other than a CDROM with freedos. If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do that? If I could, I would be there. Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A: If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the first harddrive and cannot change harddrives. So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the CEROM. (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos cdrom} Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Hi Art: I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting from a USB stick. One is a superfloppy model where the entire USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated basically like a hard disk. See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other. Linux can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk). # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do: mkdosfs -I /dev/sda # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready formatted that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a fdisk /dev/sda and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install a MBR and format the key afterwards, do install-mbr /dev/sda --force mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1 Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive? Have you used the attrib command to see if the files are hidden for some reason? Good luck! Let me know if either of these suggestions help. Mark Art Fore wrote: That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it shows /dev/sdd a the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition. executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd, that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1. Does not make sense to me. I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. Art On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote: Try copying the files to /dev/sdd Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did. Mark Art Fore wrote: Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html but did not work in the last step syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem Why is this? How do I fix this? Art Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??. Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync. Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret? Art - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more?
