Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/2010 04:09 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: > Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. >> >> With Adam's recent input, I've modified the grammar to what I hope will >> be it's final form. >> >> The complete gramm

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/2010 04:09 PM, Endi Sukma Dewata wrote: > On 11/19/2010 2:56 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> So we loose the possibility of saying: the last friday of the month ? >> >> It's not impossible, it can still be done with this schema, though it's >

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Dmitri Pal
Dmitri Pal wrote: > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. >> >> With Adam's recent input, I've modified the grammar to what I hope will >> be it's final form. >> >> The complete grammar is available at >> https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HBAC_Gram

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Dmitri Pal
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. > > With Adam's recent input, I've modified the grammar to what I hope will > be it's final form. > > The complete grammar is available at > https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HBAC_Grammar > > The differences from my

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Endi Sukma Dewata
On 11/19/2010 2:56 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: So we loose the possibility of saying: the last friday of the month ? It's not impossible, it can still be done with this schema, though it's somewhat more complicated. You'd need to set it up as separate rules for each particular month. How ab

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/2010 03:55 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:31:30 -0500 > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. >> >> With Adam's recent inpu

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:31:30 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. > > With Adam's recent input, I've modified the grammar to what I hope > will be it's final form. > > The complete grammar is

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Breaking the thread intentionally to bring back focus. With Adam's recent input, I've modified the grammar to what I hope will be it's final form. The complete grammar is available at https://fedorahosted.org/sssd/wiki/HBAC_Grammar The differences f

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Young
On 11/19/2010 06:33 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2010 06:16 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: Adam Young wrote: On 11/18/2010 05:27 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: Adam Young wrote: On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/19/2010 07:49 AM, Sumit Bose wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:27:13PM -0500, Dmitri Pal wrote: >> Adam Young wrote: >>> On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: >>> >> Steve can you s

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Sumit Bose
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 05:27:13PM -0500, Dmitri Pal wrote: > Adam Young wrote: > > On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: > > > > >>> Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, > > please, and > > >>> identify the questions

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-19 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2010 06:16 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: > Adam Young wrote: >> On 11/18/2010 05:27 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: >>> Adam Young wrote: >>> On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Dmitri Pal
Adam Young wrote: > On 11/18/2010 05:27 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: >> Adam Young wrote: >> >>> On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >>> On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: >>> >>> >> Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, >> >>> please,

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Adam Young
On 11/18/2010 05:27 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote: Adam Young wrote: On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, please, and identify the questions that we need to an

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Dmitri Pal
Adam Young wrote: > On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: > > >>> Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, > please, and > >>> identify the questions that we need to answer. > >>> > > Simo, Adam and I had a long discus

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Adam Young
On 11/18/2010 04:02 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, please, and identify the questions that we need to answer. Simo, Adam and I had a long

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2010 09:55 AM, Dmitri Pal wrote: > Steve can you summarize where we are and what we agreed to, please, and > identify the questions that we need to answer. Simo, Adam and I had a long discussion on IRC regarding the time rules today (complet

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Dmitri Pal
Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 11/18/2010 09:31 AM, Adam Young wrote: > > On 11/18/2010 07:09 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On 11/17/2010 04:51 PM, Adam Young wrote: > > On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 > > Stephen Gallagher

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2010 09:31 AM, Adam Young wrote: > On 11/18/2010 07:09 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 11/17/2010 04:51 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 > Stephe

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Adam Young
On 11/18/2010 07:09 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2010 04:51 PM, Adam Young wrote: On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: This will require two changes to

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2010 04:51 PM, Adam Young wrote: > On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 >> Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> >>> This will require two changes to the HBAC schema. First of all, we >>> plan to drop th

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-17 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:51:12 -0500 Adam Young wrote: > Since we are so close to deadline on this, I suspect we should go > with something as straightforward as this, and expand it post release. Expanding post release would be an ABI change, not feasible. Remember that *clients* need to interpret

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-17 Thread Adam Young
On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: This will require two changes to the HBAC schema. First of all, we plan to drop the week-of-the-month concept entirely and replace it with septet-of-the-month. This is being done to elimin

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-17 Thread Adam Young
On 11/17/2010 04:31 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: This will require two changes to the HBAC schema. First of all, we plan to drop the week-of-the-month concept entirely and replace it with septet-of-the-month. This is being done to elimin

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-17 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:07:24 -0500 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > This will require two changes to the HBAC schema. First of all, we > plan to drop the week-of-the-month concept entirely and replace it > with septet-of-the-month. This is being done to eliminate the > ambiguity entirely. Secondly, we

[Freeipa-devel] Proposed changes to the HBAC grammar

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 During a discussion today about how to represent the HBAC grammar in the FreeIPA GUI, it became apparent that there was a limitation in the grammar. Specifically, it's not possible to describe in a non-ambiguous way "The first Wednesday of the month".