Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

How about "downward biasing"? Is that less ridicul[ous|e-deserving]? If I'm a high order Markov process and my historicity heavily biases me toward a subspace of behaviors, isn't that reasonable labeled "downward causation"? On 5/16/24 08:32, Marcus Daniels wrote: I'd like to take a moment to

Re: [FRIAM] Potential Vorticity and the Dynamic Tropopause

I suppose the problem is that LLMs aren't really about language at all. They're about the "rolling up" of sequential data into a lossy memory device that can later be queried for those (somewhat mutated) memories. Those sequential streams are of different types (vision, hearing, touch, etc.),

Re: [FRIAM] Potential vorticity and financial markets Fwd: CDS Friday seminar (CSI 899, CSS 898) for 26 April, 3 PM

https://people.brandeis.edu/~blebaron/classes/agentfin/ On 4/26/24 07:44, Stephen Guerin wrote: Nick, If you have time, beam into Blake Lebaron's talk today and let the "depth of the order book relating volatility and liquidity" wash over you like some one was describing potential vorticity

Re: [FRIAM] rip Dennett

ough/blunt eulogy on the anniversary of the Dead's passing... I don't remember how this was supported/funded but the idea moved me when I encountered it. On 4/24/24 8:26 PM, glen wrote: I could only wish I'd be criticized this well when I die: "Dennett’s text is full of tirades wroug

[FRIAM] rip Dennett

I could only wish I'd be criticized this well when I die: "Dennett’s text is full of tirades wrought from petty grievances, is disorganized to the point of being unreadable, and like the rest of his books, will undoubtedly not have much influence."

Re: [FRIAM] Comparing negative numbers

It seems like the relative stability argues for a translation from Ess space to the origin (0). So regardless of sign, you want to translate from absolute space (step number) to Ess space, which, in some cases, results in Russ' math. But would extend to negative steps as well. On April 12,

Re: [FRIAM] move fast, break things

Daniels wrote: And how many similar exploits are out there, sponsored by GCHQ, NSA, etc. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 8:52 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] move fast, break things What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost

[FRIAM] move fast, break things

What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/what-we-know-about-the-xz-utils-backdoor-that-almost-infected-the-world/ almost immediately, a never-before-seen participant named Jigar Kumar joined the discussion and argued that

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

Smith wrote: REC sed: but the "dark side" of the moon is sunlit for half of every month? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowpiercer On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:33 AM glen wrote: Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems like an option ... assuming you can

Re: [FRIAM] A hundred words for swindle

Why do you list KBJ as "less savory"? On 3/31/24 12:40, Steve Smith wrote: ... even the less savory ( to my pinko-liberal palate) of the high bench (Thomas/Alito/Kavanaugh/Brown, in descending order?) are as able and serious as Breyer came across in this interview... -- ꙮ Mɥǝu

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

ves-ports-and-grid-connection> The moon idea reminds me of this center: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Region_Supercomputing_Center <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Region_Supercomputing_Center> *From: *Friam on behalf of glen *Date: *Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:33 AM *To:

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

grow and thrive. On 3/28/24 07:51, Marcus Daniels wrote: It will force innovation on energy-efficient microarchitecture (e.g. Groq) and on renewable power generation near data centers. -Original Message----- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM To: friam@redf

[FRIAM] death by ubiquity

As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with obsequious chatbots, the world burns. The industry more damaging to the environment than airlines https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/

Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity

tudent too. The attractors come from the instruction or the curriculum. One choice constrains the next. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 11:50 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity I was arguing with that s

Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity

ately aware that an idea is not novel, I may avoid attractors that agents that wrongly believe they are "independent" will gravitate toward. -----Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 7:49 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the i

Re: [FRIAM] the inequities of uniquity

A friend of mine constantly reminds me that language is dynamic, not fixed in stone from a billion years ago. So, if you find others consistently using a term in a way that you think is wrong, then *you* are wrong in what you think. The older I get, the more difficult it gets. But

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

This is exactly why Trump needs to stay on the ballot(s) and be defeated by a "normal" election. Every cry of Martyr is more fuel for the much smarter younger traitors waiting in the wings. Or, if he is elected again, those of us in a position to bolster whatever Rule of Law we have left will

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

olks mostly seem to like that they are a tribe, even if the tribe isn't about anything. They are the angry white rural voter, and they want more power. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 11:13 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

imprison opponents. These are the genes of Trump's primitive strongman ideology. -J. Original message From: glen Date: 2/27/24 7:26 PM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA IDK. It seems like ecDNA, in general, can be either good or

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

IDK. It seems like ecDNA, in general, can be either good or bad. And mitochondrial DNA feels like a boon, overall. Maybe a better analogy would be ecDNA <-> media and MAGA to the oncogenes being promoted. I think a useful foil for stressing the analogy is the difference between a filter bubble

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

Discussions of curiosity are like discussions of side effects, spandrels, and the rest. The simple conception of curiosity is information seeking to no purpose, no "instrumental benefit". But that's clearly nonsense, barring some sophistry around "instrumental benefit". Curiosity seems to me

Re: [FRIAM] 2000-year-old scrolls

That's how I felt about Hanson's latest post: Why Crypto https://www.overcomingbias.com/p/why-crypto I suppose the basic point is that crypto has generated parasitic people just like older financial instruments, but the parasites crypto generates are *younger* and more energetic than older,

[FRIAM] imputation

https://retractionwatch.com/2024/02/05/no-data-no-problem-undisclosed-tinkering-in-excel-behind-economics-paper/#more-128696 In email correspondence seen by Retraction Watch and a follow-up Zoom call, Heshmati told the student he had used Excel’s autofill function to mend the data. He had marked

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

Yeah, I'm not so sure that's the right tack. I mean, airlines (and airplane mfgs) aren't the most earth friendly enterprises, at their core. Even if we could magically swap out a zero emissions fuel (which we can't: https://www.wri.org/insights/us-sustainable-aviation-fuel-emissions-impacts),

[FRIAM] Policy Modeling

I'm confident many of y'all have seen this. But each of the snippets below, from Roger & Merle's nihilistic takes to Leigh and Cody's optimistic takes, bounce around policy modeling. What can one estimate in the face of overwhelming uncertainty? And given one's high uncertainty estimates,

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

I feel like individual actions (like sorting recycling, buying/using EVs, etc.) are a tiny drop in the bucket compared to institutional actions. For example, the NIH recently held a meeting in Maryland explicitly stating a *preference* for in person attendance. This seemed egregious to me. I

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

an earlier time to avoid repeating the "decision" personally)... PS re: Breaking Bad I've only dropped a few Pachinko balls in my life, but I couldn't help agonizing over the trajectory of each one, feeling as if at every bounce they were at risk of "breaking bad" (or &qu

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

Yeah, but it all boils down to what "same way" means. Addiction is canalized by dopaminergic pathways, right? So if you're canalized to that, then even if there are small effect differences in the way you react, they might be swamped by the large effect sameness forced by the need for

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

part-time simulants (as Glen I believe refers to himself), even the most aggressive attempts at introducing "random" (noise, annealing, etc.) either degenerate to "pseudo-random" or engage with a physical system (e.g. sample a pixel-value from a webcam trained on a lav

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

+1 Every failed communication effort I engage in is followed by my reaction to the failure. When I've been primed that day/week to be calm and collected, my reaction is to either try again or politely quit the effort. But when I've been primed to be reactionary and aggressive, my reaction

Re: [FRIAM] "SSRN-id3978095.pdf" was shared with you

Words matter: how ecologists discuss managed and non-managed bees and birds https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11192-022-04620-2 I'm continuing this thread because I really want to classify types of ad hominem. The most obvious bifurcation is human vs. source ... so against the human

Re: [FRIAM] diamond doping

nd higher. This channel would not be possible without your help. And you too can help us. Go check out our Patreon page or support us right here on YouTube by clicking on the join button below. Thanks for watching. See you tomorrow. On 1/10/24 07:14, glen wrote: I've been tricked before. Is this tr

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad

On 1/15/24 11:01, Don Lemons wrote: "Virtue ethics" is a standard phrase in philosophy. Yes, that's the way my friend intends to use it. He claims to have been formally trained in philosophy. But I don't care very much about the jargon. What I care about is what he says when he graduates

[FRIAM] diamond doping

I've been tricked before. Is this true? I find plenty of hits on diamond doping and β-based batteries. And the Sri Lanka Guardian seems like a credible source. But I can't help but doubt claims from https://www.betavolt.tech/

Re: [FRIAM] sui generis

novative, or creative work— despite the boilerplate prefacing every Ph.D. thesis. davew On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, at 10:28 AM, glen wrote: https://www.science.org/content/article/billionaire-launches-plagiarism-detection-effort-against-mit-president-and-all-its https://thehill.com/policy/technology

[FRIAM] sui generis

https://www.science.org/content/article/billionaire-launches-plagiarism-detection-effort-against-mit-president-and-all-its https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4392624-new-york-times-chatgpt-lawsuit-poses-new-legal-threats-to-artificial-intelligence/ I just can't help but analogize between

Re: [FRIAM] "SSRN-id3978095.pdf" was shared with you

The argument seems pretty clear to me. "Officer" is jargonal, not intuitive. Were I to read it charitably, I'd agree. Appointees are not elected. Electees should have more leeway than appointees ... like the difference between an elected Sheriff and her deputies. But like all dichotomies, this

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

n't pro-trans. But, again, it's a field, not a particle zoo. On 12/28/23 08:37, Marcus Daniels wrote: It seems one informative interstitial space is populated by the TERFs. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 6:53 AM To: friam@redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

I thought about ... no, actually I crafted an entire post but deleted it ... posting this in response to Roger's "good old sci fi" (GOSF) arc. It's a fantastic TESCREAL narrative arc, reactive to such GOSF. And as allergic to narrative as I am, I still think it's a good story:

[FRIAM] arg

British teenager behind GTA 6 hack receives indefinite hospital order https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/dec/21/british-teenager-behind-gta-6-hack-receives-indefinite-hospital-order One person's criminal is another's hero. Such pearl clutching by the capitalists. -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs

[FRIAM] institutional home for Rowena He

I know some here have more than a passing interest in China and a peri-China network. So I thought I'd bump this post a bit: https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=7694 This post has a practical purpose. Since her exile from China, Rowena has spent basically her entire life moving from place to

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

FWIW, here's some more kewl acoustic emission: https://kuaishen.bandcamp.com/album/stridulation-amplified-compositions-with-the-stridulatory-organ-of-atta-cephalotes The compositions are recordings of the acoustic vibrations, scientifically known as stridulations, which are produced by

Re: [FRIAM] AI Alliance

> https://science.nasa.gov/missions/tess/discovery-alert-watch-the-synchronized-dance-of-a-6-planet-system/ On 12/6/23 10:57 AM, Pietro Terna wrote:     Genius! Il 06/12/23 15:11, glen ha scritto: For those of us who refuse to contribute to Musk's reality distortion field: https://thealliance.

Re: [FRIAM] AI Alliance

For those of us who refuse to contribute to Musk's reality distortion field: https://thealliance.ai/ Yeah, it's interesting. 2 questions came to my mind: 1) Where is Mozilla? Are they a part of it? And 2) "open" is not a simple concept. Is it possible that so many organizations have a clear

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

lar has always bothered me greatly.  I try to help people to say it right by telling them to think "new clear".  I'm not sure that would help Bush. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 8:21 AM glen mailto:geprop

[FRIAM] metathesis

So, on the death of The War Criminal, I've been reflecting on the most irritating thing to me about George W Bush's stint: nukular. Sure. It's irritating that he started a war for no good reason. If we learn anything from Kissinger's treatment by the press, it's that those sorts of things

[FRIAM] artificial clouds

I'm sure y'all have seen this already. But it was new to me. https://www.berndnaut.nl/works/molds/ https://youtu.be/GRHWCcOktHI - Smilde is a Dutch artist who has been creating artworks involving real clouds formed indoors since 2010. - The clouds are created using a fog machine and water

Re: [FRIAM] Mirror Neurons & Intersubjective Reality

Thanks for the links to the predictive coding paper and the mirror mech survey. What continues to drive my skepticism, even for the weaker "mirror mechanism" hypothesis is stated well in a perspective on the recent brain cell atlas: "There is no single prototypical human; a spectrum of

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

In addition to the github repository with the mathematica notebooks (and the assembly-data.zip supp.), there are 2 interesting sources for more cronin group code. https://github.com/orgs/croningp/repositories (parent of the mathematical repository) https://gitlab.com/croningroup Browsing the

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

with Leroy Cronin distance = 6 On 11/13/23 17:42, David Eric Smith wrote: Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: You might want

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

(./... must... stop... now.../ ) On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Oe-af4_OmzLJavktcSKGfP0wmxCX0ppP8n_Tvi9l_yc/edit?usp=sh

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

. Rockets are comparatively science fictiony for people that can't imagine transport without a car, so he gets some points for that. On Nov 13, 2023, at 10:11 AM, glen wrote: There's an interesting parallel between the Stross and Gellman pieces: Stross both laments and implicitly appr

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

There's an interesting parallel between the Stross and Gellman pieces: Stross both laments and implicitly appreciates the bureaucracy of getting a book published, where Thiel's aggrieved by the bureaucracy of societal evolution. It reminds me of the engineering-vs-biology dichotomy (yes,

Re: [FRIAM] agonism and policing the community with a keisaku?

guess is some of yours, by virtue of their verbosity or targeted salutation, may languish unread. But I suspect mine are sent to /dev/null as soon as procmail hits the From: line. Don't forget to Like and Subscribe! https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/smash-the-like On 10/25/23 15:16, Steve Smith

Re: [FRIAM] "What Work Means"

That's a great article! But I have a bit of a bone to pick with it. (I know, right? What a boor I am.) I just can't help but read this as inherently Presty. I work with a handful of GenZ at my minimum wage side gig. They are hustlers, through and through. So a theme of the Presty article does

Re: [FRIAM] more agonism

'd ascribe more *Authority* to a ChatGPT-written book on Gender Dichotomy than to a Zach Elliott book on it ... which is to say, Authority=0. Is Zach more or less legible than ChatGPT? I just don't know. On 10/19/23 14:39, glen wrote: Ha! I care much less about any particular false dichotomy th

Re: [FRIAM] Constraint Propagation and "Wave Function Collapse" Algorithm

FWIW, I played around with the WFC algorithm when it was brought to my attention. I don't remember when. But my interest in it is just as a particular instance of "procedural generation", "glitch", and their relation to "systemic games". As I wrote in 2020: On 05/27/20 13:02, gepr wrote: And

Re: [FRIAM] more agonism

theory seems helpful, here. When deciding which tribe to police, it's useful to track the cliques and components of the graph. We're known by our friends as much as our enemies. On 10/19/23 09:48, Steve Smith wrote: On 10/18/23 11:27 AM, glen wrote: Here's PZ Myers policing his community

[FRIAM] more agonism

Here's PZ Myers policing his community: The Gamete Delusion https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2023/10/17/the-gamete-delusion/ -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

Yep. And the same is true with Frank's trolling about the well-definedness of truth. Consistency, like reduction and isolation, is a fantastic tool but a bad master. When Hanson argues that we must continue to have babies or risk the halt of innovation, it's with a fixed backdrop, worldview.

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

Well, *if* one is constrained to inhabiting attractors to begin with, then a mechanism for hopping between attractors is a "good thing". But I'd argue that this is a mere band-aide, treating the symptom rather than the cause. The real disorder is the tendency to inhabit attractors ... or

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

I think that's an ideological stance, not a brute fact. The use of the term "better" is nothing but an "ought", which is difficult to derive from an "is". On 10/9/23 10:07, Marcus Daniels wrote: We are better off if the ones that carry demonstrably false claims are proportionately devalued.

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

different contexts for use. On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:48 AM, glen wrote: Hm. Even with the caveat of "generally", I think this complementarity argument fails because all the various categories are not disjoint. And it's the (somewhat) lack(ing) of grounding/binding that allows the mixing of

Re: [FRIAM] natalism

quot;Lagrangian vs Eulerian" rather than the Anthropological "Emic vs Etic" axis of understanding first-third person, reductionist-holistic, nominal-real perspectives?   This also leads me back around to the (nearly) ineffable discussion of Stationary Action revisit

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

ave power and things that don’t work don’t have power. -- glen -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.

[FRIAM] natalism

or transhumanist way of thinking ... that Our innovations can possibly be stored and percolated more so than the modest, tightly bound to circumstances, innovations of our less computational sibling species. I don't buy it. But I'd like to be able to make the argume

Re: [FRIAM] cults

significantly around "/I don't like to be told/" with being */told who I am/* perhaps the most egregious, even if I'm being told that "/I'm someone who doesn't like to be told who I am"/. -- glen -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] cults

eir own story in a quiet space, they might learn to think and be less reliant on a social role to maintain self esteem. Enforcing this could be done with a DMZ, or it could be done with some indoctrination about the risks of groupthink and the benefits of stoicism and scientism. On Oct 4, 2023, a

Re: [FRIAM] cults

- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic-cult-764-fbi https://en.wikip

[FRIAM] cults

er one author nailed it in saying that there are plenty of both impressionable and antisocial people using the internet, susceptible to the "sinister" allure, to cause real damage. -- glen -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

[FRIAM] saRNA

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/self-amplifying-rna-vaccines/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=self-amplifying-rna-vaccines "It is also likely that there will be another round of fear-mongering about the new technology. It probably best for scientists to get ahead of this, to introduce and

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

ses/course-v1:MITxT+24.09x/> It may help with this question. / / _ Cody Smith _ c...@simtable.com <mailto:c...@simtable.com> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 12:25 PM Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: Great observations as usual Glen...   I have lapsed into *listening* to al

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

Both keyboards and pencils are part of our extended phenotype and play (multiple) roles in interoception, including the induction of inter-subjectivity. I've forgotten who it is, but there's someone on this list who *listens* to our posts, rather than reads them. I tried that with a blog post

[FRIAM] DRA

https://davesredistricting.org/ I think some of you are interested in (fair) districting. Is that a word? Yuck. -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St.

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

Hm. It seems to me that self-attention allows a kind of circularity, where dependence on ancestors (or a built environment, or whatever "deep" structure exists in one's current context) does not. Nick's diatribe against teleonomy back in '87 focuses on circularity and, I suspect, would appeal

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

outside forces. BTW, congratulations on your phrase /epistemological trespassing/! _ _ __-- Russ On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:47 PM glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm still attracted to Rosen's closure to efficient cause. Your flashlight example is classified as non-agent (or non-l

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

I'm still attracted to Rosen's closure to efficient cause. Your flashlight example is classified as non-agent (or non-living ... tomayto tomahto) because the efficient cause is open. Now, attach sensor and effector to the flashlight so that it can flick it*self* on when it gets dark and off

Re: [FRIAM] Philosophy and Science

This merely seems like triggered gatekeeping to me. Yeah, sure, working philosophers have skills and behaviors working [insert your favorite other clique] don't have. But, if it's not already obvious, especially to anyone who's had ANY contact with organizations like the SFI, epistemic

Re: [FRIAM] McCarthy v Peirce

: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 8:48 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] McCarthy v Peirce It's been mulled over. E.g. What can we know about that which we cannot even imagine? https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.03886v1 "Experience" seems, by definition, hopeless

Re: [FRIAM] McCarthy v Peirce

It's been mulled over. E.g. What can we know about that which we cannot even imagine? https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.03886v1 "Experience" seems, by definition, hopelessly fragile to context. If your experience is similar to someone else's experience, then you're in a cult. Get out! There's

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Fwd:  Virtual FRIAM - recurring Zoom meeting on July 6, 2023 @ 9:00 AM | Read Meeting Report

How creepy. I've been on Brin's side since I read his piece claiming privacy is obsolete. And in exploring collaborative tools, I set one up for our regular salon at the pub, regularly typing up some notes on what was said and interesting arguments. One attendee kinda freaked out about having

Re: [FRIAM] Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube

om physics.  That's for sophomores and they can look the integrals up in tables. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Jul 3, 2023, 9:32 AM glen mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: What do you think "integrate" means?

Re: [FRIAM] Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube

What do you think "integrate" means? On 7/3/23 08:28, Nicholas Thompson wrote: BEGIN HARRUMPH! Just so's you know, I did write: *" And for some reason, the path taken by the object through space will integrate this difference across the distance between any two points "* * * But never doubt

Re: [FRIAM] Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube

Yeah, Sutter triggered me when he said "but you don't have to worry about that if you don't know what an integral is". I mean ... maybe? This stuff is like heroin to an addict, right? Models upon models upon models. And not just in a simple stack, but a hairball heterarchy of metaphor. You

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

"make use of" imputes agency on the trees. A better way to phrase it would be how/whether trees benefit from wind. But, if I'm a little more generous, maybe you're asking if there are any transduction or energy storage mechanisms triggered by the wind.

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

Being completely ignorant of everything mentioned, here, I can't help but wonder whether there is a path from not-even-wrong to schema-for-the-data. Going back to EricS' prior comment regarding when a (time/speed) difference of scale becomes a difference of kind, I have trouble accepting the

Re: [FRIAM] I am not Unique

Goodhart's Law. On June 24, 2023 3:48:14 PM PDT, Russ Abbott wrote: >Frank, Thanks for the link. > >Agnes Callard, the author of the article, sneers at tourists who visit >Paris in order to visit the Louvre in order to see the Mona Lisa (and then >spend 45 seconds looking at it)--because that's

Re: [FRIAM] mind candy

for a happy ending too. -J. Original message From: glen Date: 6/22/23 6:57 PM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] mind candy The Greek shipwreck was a horrific tragedy. Yet it didn’t get the attention of the Titanic story https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023

[FRIAM] mind candy

The Greek shipwreck was a horrific tragedy. Yet it didn’t get the attention of the Titanic story https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/22/the-greek-shipwreck-was-a-horrific-tragedy-yet-it-didnt-get-the-attention-of-the-titanic-story By analogy with eye candy, where the Eloi get all

Re: [FRIAM] From Merle--AI News

, 2023 at 10:25 AM Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: glen wrote: > IDK. The implication that we already have laws that cover (80%?) of > the use cases for new tech we, as a society, want to discourage, is a > good default. It resists the "the

Re: [FRIAM] From Merle--AI News

IDK. The implication that we already have laws that cover (80%?) of the use cases for new tech we, as a society, want to discourage, is a good default. It resists the "there ought to be a law" sensibility held by old people and curmudgeons everywhere. And it keeps our legal system a little

[FRIAM] What, me worry?

Four indicted over ‘appalling’ theft of body parts from Harvard Medical School https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/15/stolen-body-parts-harvard-medical-school There's so much embedded in the culture behind this story. I love how "appalling" is in scare quotes. 8^D Is it appalling?

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

probably at most apprehended by finite beings (who have not achieved Satori, nod to DaveW) as the superposition of many sub-complete T' (or R') descriptions? - Steve On 6/5/23 10:18 AM, glen wrote: But this misses the point, I think. And, in fact, I think it's a mistake to focus too much on (natu

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

But this misses the point, I think. And, in fact, I think it's a mistake to focus too much on (natural) language models at all, even for things that *seem* to be all about language, like philosophy. I'm most interested in the concept of an embedding .

Re: [FRIAM] India

pplied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] India Hi Glen In so far as the report of dropping the periodic table and evolution from the Class 10 syllabus, it is essentially a question of Hindu class and caste dynamics operating in India. Traditionally, education / knowledge in India was th

[FRIAM] India

I don't follow Indian politics. But these seem scary: Religion and the decline of freethought in South Asia https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/04/religion-and-the-decline-of-freethought-in-south-asia/ India cuts periodic table and evolution from school textbooks

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

d by one in the dark one time), but the reputation is that faced with a fox or a raccoon, they don’t have a chance of surviving. Makes me imagine that bobcats look like slightly enlarged big domestic cats, but probably aren’t like them very much at all. I was having this discussion with so

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

cial media.Maybe they were always easily manipulated?Soon, if not already, photographic and audio recordings will be meaningless. Strange times.. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:15 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] crackpot

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

ath from 35 degC wet-bulb temperatures.It seems more likely to me they'll die. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:59 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege Well of course with enough capital ... enough of a heavy

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

1/23 08:52, Marcus Daniels wrote: To me it just seems like high temperature. An Elizabeth Holmes or her more numerous male psychopath counterparts can turn up the temperature. They don't need to be slave to map, but they can use one. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of

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