[FRIAM] go far beyond anything that our history gives us the capability to conceive... Ben Goertzel at Future of MInd Symposium at The New School NYC: Rich Murray 2016.12.01

2016-12-01 Thread Rich Murray
go far beyond anything that our history gives us the capability to conceive... Ben Goertzel at Future of MInd Symposium at The New School NYC: Rich Murray 2016.12.01 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2016/12/go-far-beyond-anything-that-our-history.html ready for Finder's Course... ready for us in

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2016-12-01 Thread Vladimyr Burachynsky
To the Congregation, Canada has recently thrown out a crony conservative party replaced by a supposedly more moderate liberal party. But very recently we have become alarmed by their behavior, they presume to be speaking on the constituents behalf. We ask where those ideas came from in stunned

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2016-12-01 Thread Merle Lefkoff
The ruling classes were just plain tone-deaf. Our bad. I'm a post-capitalist revolutionary Canadian College professor and activist working hard to prevent this country from slipping further into economic oligarchy, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump will surprise us in some nifty ways

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2016-12-01 Thread Pamela McCorduck
I found the article just silly. Yes, the comparison between Thinking Fast and Thinking Slow is apt. Maybe we should call the Trumpists “trigger finger voters” and the Clinton voters, “think before you pull the trigger” voters. Also apt, to this student (and survivor) of WW II are the parallels

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2016-12-01 Thread ┣glen┫
Well, sure. But, speaking for myself, I see plenty of snobbish, aloof, and patronizing expression in the speech and action of people like Richard Spencer and Mencius Moldbug (Curtis Yarvin) -- and the intellectuals they tend to fawn over. Hell, Ayn Rand has a huge dose of it, too. To go

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2016-12-01 Thread Marcus Daniels
“High information” people ignore evidence if it conflicts with their preferred narrative all the time. Sometimes evidence is wrong or misinterpreted – sometimes a theory is needed to put evidence into context. That’s not ignoring evidence, that’s seeking even more information and a better

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2016-12-01 Thread ┣glen┫
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But we have to be careful with our demographics. I would bet that most of the people who voted for Trump _have_ their basic needs met! Granted, they may be worried about whether they _will_ have their basic needs met in the near or far future. But

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2016-12-01 Thread Eric Charles
Glen, The style matters. Oddly quite a bit. "Liberal elitism" is snobbish, aloof, and patronizing. Note, it is not the way in which they are "elite", but the "elitism" that rankles the most. Trump's financial-elite bull-in-a-china-shop schtick looks and feels very different, and there are many

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2016-12-01 Thread Gillian Densmore
My German friends who's countery to this day is still recovering from Hitler. Those people at least outright said America has got to pull together somehow. The best way to undermine the fear Giano, Drumpf, Fox news, and CNN propogate is to counter it with upbeat things, and the truth. The sooner

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2016-12-01 Thread Marcus Daniels
The Clinton state voters aren’t parasitic, they contribute more to the economy and are more productive than the Trump state voters.See my other post on this for the numbers. This article I found fairly interesting -- various

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2016-12-01 Thread ┣glen┫
On 12/01/2016 10:11 AM, cody dooderson wrote: > Sorry, but I found the first article very disturbing. It seems like an > opinion piece that might have come out during the rise of the Nazi party. It > blames the 'parasitic educated' class, praises the virtues of the military > service, and

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2016-12-01 Thread cody dooderson
Sorry, but I found the first article very disturbing. It seems like an opinion piece that might have come out during the rise of the Nazi party. It blames the 'parasitic educated' class, praises the virtues of the military service, and argues in favor racial segregation. My very shallow reading on

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2016-12-01 Thread Owen Densmore
I love it. The Elites are getting hammered. Snobocracy is now so visible that it can be attacked for what it really is. ​​ http://quillette.com/2016/11/30/stop-calling-people-low-information-voters/ ​This was also referred to by this: