Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> I say we trial this, as it's the simplest change, without additional
TA> overhead, and we are then directly able to tweak things as we see
TA> fit.

OK, I'll stick the appropriate A record into DNS shortly.  It may, of
course, take a while before everyone's caches expire.

TA> Jason, are you OK with this?

No problem at all.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "JS" == Jaimos Skriletz  writes:

JS> So to complete the switch the fvwm.org domain needs to be pointed
JS> at/redirected to github.io.

That's easy for me to do, but before I make any changes.

JS> I think pointing fvwm.org at github would be preferable as to keep
JS> the domain name, but I'm unsure of anything that would need to be
JS> done on github.io end to accept the fvwm.org as a virtual host and
JS> point it to the correct location.

Could someone triple check on that?

JS> The other option is have fvwm.org redirect to the above domain name.

I can do that as well.  Just let me know.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> Not sure why, maybe I paid, but paid for you?

Yes, the last time it came up for renewal, you paid for it.  We didn't
actually transfer the ownership or the registrar.  If you want to do
that, though, then just let me know what I need to do.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> I note that it's possible to set up webhooks on repositories on
TA> Github.  We could use that mechanism to notify you of changes which
TA> need pulling (and hence, enact some script to do a git-pull), rather
TA> than polling for them.

It's probably not worth the effort compared to running a cron job every
few minutes, but if it's easy then I'll at least try.

I'm OK with continuing to maintain the site this way, but I'm not going
to complain if you want to move it all to github.  What I really want to
do is get away from having to keep the CVS server running.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "JS" == Jaimos Skriletz  writes:

JS> who controls the domain name fvwm.org,

A whois query shows that it's me.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

OK, a manual pull worked.  Turns out that the update script is in my
home directory, which isn't accessible without a kerberos ticket.
That's fixed up.

It's a trivial matter to have this do a git pull instead, so if the
fvwm-web repository on github is up to date, then just let me know and
I'll switch over.

 - J<

Re: FVWM website: WAS: [Re: FVWM code moved to Github]

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> Meanwhile, I committed fvwm-web changes yesterday, but those changes
DE> have not shown up at fvwm.org.

Where did you commit them?  I'm surprised you could commit at all, given
the fact that the CVS server isn't really happy.  I'll try to do a pull
manually.

 - J<

Re: FVWM code moved to Github

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> Yes, and he's not always around, alas.

I'm _almost_ always around.  But I was in New Orleans with crappy
Internet, and got home to no Internet at all.  (Thanks, Comcast.)  And I
will be jaunting around Europe for most of July and some of August.

 - J<

Re: FVWM code moved to Github

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> I appreciate I've swooped in here, and just done this, but the
TA> discussion[0] happened once before, and given the recent
TA> circumstances with the borked CVS repository, it seemed unfair to
TA> leave an impending release hanging.

Just for the record, I've been on vacation for a bit but I'm really
happy that this has happened because I've been wanting to shut down the
CVS server for a very long time.  CVS is really fragile

I can continue to provide mailing lists in case people still find them
useful.  I can also try to come up with some way to deal with the web
site, probably by just doing a git pull every few minutes, if people
want that.

Finally, if you end up not liking github for some reason, I am willing
to try running a Pagure instance.  Pagure is sort of like github, but
you run it on your own infrastructure.  https://pagure.io

 - J<

Re: Fvwm commit problem

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Can you try now?

 - J<

Re: Fvwm commit problem

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> Can you convert and retain the change history?

Certainly.  I converted my Majordomo2 repository to git and dumped it on
github so that I'd have one less thing on that CVS server.  Took only a
few minutes.  You do need access to the raw repository files for the
best conversion, but of course I have those.

I think that folks here don't like github, so I'll see if I can put
together a git server locally.  Might take me a bit as I'm buried.

 - J<

Re: Fvwm commit problem

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Sure, I'll look today when I get some time.  I had to redo that server
a while back (at least a couple of months) but it's possible that I
broke it and nobody has committed anything since then.

I really would like to get rid of CVS.

 - J<

Re: cvs server up?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "PG" == Peter G  writes:

PG> is anyone having a problem grabbing files from the cvs server right
PG> now?

Hmm, I moved it to another VM recently but thought it tested fine then.
Please try now.

 - J<

Re: Some questions about future developing

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> All the pieces are in place, but stalled with fvwm-web.

Wait, why?  It's just a script that checks stuff out on the web server.  I
don't recall anyone asking me to change that.

 - J<

Re: Status update

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> I had to make target "update-po" to cause the error.

I was building from a completely fresh checkout.  I think from here on
out I'll make sure that the whole thing is done from a clean checkout,
instead of just updating an existing one like the script was doing previously.

DE> I've committed a change.

Thanks; I'll try again.

 - J<

Re: Status update

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> The only other pressing issue I'm aware of is snapshots getting
DE> built off of 2.7.

I think I have things going again; for whatever reason the script really
didn't like building from a fresh checkout.

It does actually appear to validly fail to build, however:

/usr/bin/msgmerge --update fvwm.ar.po fvwm.pot
fvwm.pot:321: duplicate message definition...
fvwm.pot:36: ...this is the location of the first definition
/usr/bin/msgmerge: found 1 fatal error
make[1]: *** [fvwm.ar.po] Error 1


I don't think at this point that I'm doing anything wrong

 - J<

Re: Snapshots

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

I stopped doing the snapshots a while back.  I could do them again, I
guess, but, really, why not just build yourself if that's what you want?

 - J<

Re: fvwm for Fedora

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

>> Does Jason Tibbitts have involvement with the Fedora RPM? From what I
>> see there, it appears to be maintained by someone called Peter
>> Lemenkov: however, there has been very little action there for a long
>> time?

TA> I'm CCing him.  You'll need to ask him, as I have no idea.

I don't really have any "official" involvement with the Fedora package
of FVWM.  I do have privileges to do basically anything to any package
in Fedora, though, and I ran my proposal for getting everything properly
updated by Peter some time ago and offered to do all the work myself.
Never got any response.  I don't really know what the problem is there.
I do know the package changed hands a couple of times over the years and
maybe he just picked it up in order to keep it from dropping out of the
distribution.

Now, why don't I just take over the package entirely?  Well, I think I'd
be a pretty lousy maintainer, primarily because I don't actually use
FVWM these days.  Switched to KDE years ago.  So while I could maintain
the package, I would be pretty lousy at testing it.  Maybe that would
still be better than the current situation.

Anyway, if any Fedora users around want to do some testing on an updated
RPM for Fedora, please chime in and I'll get one built.  If you're
willing to give it karma then I'm willing to go through the work of
getting it pushed out.

 - J<

Re: Updating Fedora's FVWM

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> There's no "mimeopen" on my Fedora box. Looks like it comes from
DE> package perl-File-MimeInfo.

Well, sure; that's a manually specified dependency of Fedora's fvwm
package.  Distributions have the luxury of doing that.  But I'm still
not really seeing the point of that change, or the reason it was added.
If that editor is only used for plain text files, what would mimeopen
actually help with?

DE> Fedora can create an alias to fvwm-menu-desktop for compatibility.

Sure.  I think the faster this can be dropped, the better since we can't
even download the original version these days as far as I can tell.

 - J<

Re: Updating Fedora's FVWM

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen  writes:

DE> I don't understand this one:
DE>   fvwm-xdg-menu.py

It's been part of the Fedora package since the package was first
imported into the Fedora repository in 2007 (at version 2.5.21).  I
looked up the original package review ticket:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223724 and it seems that
script was simply added to the package at the request of the package
reviewer:

* in fvwm/ConfigFvwmSetup the default menu is badly suited for 
  fedora. I propose removing rxvt, replacing the utility submenu 
  a dynamically generated menu using the freedesktop standard.
  For that, I found a python script using pyxdg which could 
  be suitable:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pz215/fvwm-scripts/scripts/xdg-menu.py
  However, I found 2 issues with that script, when calling it with
  xdg-menu.py /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu > somefile

Of course, that page no longer exists.  The author apparently works ag
Google now: https://sites.google.com/site/piotrzielinski/ but there's no
mention of anything FVWM related.

 - J<

Re: .po files of locale zh_TW

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> Can you provide more context, please?  I have no idea what you're
TA> talking about here

Not surprising since 2.5.12 came out in 2004.  How could anyone possibly
remember that?  And wouldn't those translations need updates after seven
years?

 - J<

Re: FVWM 2.6.1 tarballs on FTP site.

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> You've been around here long enough by now to *surely* appreciate
TA> it's up to Jason to move them out of ftp:// to the links shown
TA> above? 

Sorry about that; I was busy doing yard work and "home stuff" all of
yesterday and didn't get back to my computer until this morning.
Everything's been put in place and announced.

Maybe after we finish with the git thing we can work out a better way to
handle releases than blocking the process on me.

 - J<

Re: TODO for 2.6.1

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Did I mention how much I dislike CVS?  We really need to have a
discussion about moving to git.

But for now, I searched and I found what I think is a lock sitting in
that directory from January of 2008.  I would think that a three year
old stale lock file would have caused problems long before now, but I
guess nobody has tried to commit in that directory since 2003 or so.

Please let me know if this issue persists.  I've looked for other
similar lockfiles throughout the tree but didn't find any.

 - J<

Re: Problems building snap-20090129

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam  writes:

TA> Just as an aside -- I've been experiencing huge lags in connecting
TA> to the FVWM CVS server of late -- for instance, last night and the
TA> night before last, it took over half an hour to do a "cvs diff" --
TA> and I knew that there wouldn't be a lot of results returned. 

Well, last night the server in question was offline, so I would be
quite surprised if you could get any response at all.  However, there
shouldn't be any issues currently; if there are then the issue is most
likely in the large amount of Internet between the server and wherever
you might be.

 - J<

Re: links.php needs to be updated

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

TA> Hmm -- maybe we were talking at cross-purposes.  Pointing
TA> wiki.fvwm.org at the machine in question hosting the wiki is fine
TA> -- that part is static at least.  :)

Quoting you in a message from Oct 19, 2007:
-
> You know, wiki.fvwm.org is rather trivial to arrange if you just ask
> the owner of fvwm.org.

Heh.  I have no doubt you could set that up, but that would more or
less make the wiki "official" FVWM material, something which the wiki
currently is not.
-

So

 - J<

Re: links.php needs to be updated

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "TA" == Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

TA> Jason Tibbets has said he would host it, although he has yet to
TA> get back to me about it. The domain the wiki is at is transient
TA> anyway.

I did?  I recall offering to point wiki.fvwm.org anywhere and was told
that the wiki itself should stay separate from the project.

 - J<

Re: Problems building snap-20080113

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "JB" == Jacob Bachmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

JB> The error message you gave says that there is something wrong with
JB> the network.

Yeah, sorry, we lost a server while I was out of town and things are a
bit boned right now.

 - J<

Re: www.fvwm.org web server

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "BS" == Björn Steinbrink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

BS> Likely (in my experience), the Apache configuration has the
BS> AddDefaultCharset option set to UTF-8. Debian started doing that
BS> some time ago, but reverted it by now, as it easily causes trouble
BS> unless you know what you're doing. I guess Fedora did the same
BS> (well, except for the revert).

Well, they may have reverted it in the meantime, but the fvwm.org
server isn't terribly new.  I'm budgeting $20K for new servers this
fiscal year so hopefully I'll be migrating things over in the next
couple of months.

Anyway, thanks for the correct description of the problem (not
"overriding the default encoding" but "overriding the page-specified
encoding") and the pointer to the configuration bits.  I put
"AddDefaultCharset off" in the fvwm.org virtualhost stanza and it
seems to have solved the problem.

 - J<

Re: www.fvwm.org web server

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "SS" == Scott Smedley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SS> Hi Jason, Is it possible to configure the www.fvwm.org web server
SS> NOT to override the default character encoding when serving web
SS> pages?

I don't understand; why do you think it's overriding the default
encoding?  The default encoding is UTF-8, and that's what the pages
are being served as.

SS> We're getting funny symbols on some of our pages. Eg.

Not legal UTF-8, perhaps?  If I force the encoding to ISO-8859-1 then
the pages look better, but honestly it's no longer the 1990s.

A quick pass through iconv would fix things up, I think.

 - J<
 

Re: FVWM mailing list curiosity

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "SS" == Scott Smedley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SS> How many people are subscribed to the fvwm & fvwm-workers mailing
SS> lists?

http://lists.math.uh.edu/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr?user=&peas=&func=lists-long-full&extra=fvwm
http://lists.math.uh.edu/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr?user=&passw=&func=lists-long-full&extra=fvwm-workers

Say 398 and 140, respectively.

I don't have statistics over time, but I can say that it used to be a
bit higher but generally shrinks due to addressed being automatically
removed due to undeliverable messages.

 - J<

Re: CVS tibbs: Test of new CVS server.

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Sorry, folks; some hardware issues forced me to migrate the CVS
server.  Everything looks to be fine now and DNS has been updated.  If
cached DNS gets you to the old IP, the new one is 129.7.128.20.

 - J<

Problems building snap-20060116

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

P modules/ChangeLog
cvs update: move away modules/FvwmTabs/FvwmTabs.1; it is in the way
C modules/FvwmTabs/FvwmTabs.1
P modules/FvwmTabs/Makefile.am

Re: make rpm-dist and deb-dist both fail with the same error

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> Meantime, Jason, please remove fvwm-2.5.15.tar.gz and bz2 from
MG> ftp.

OK.

 - J<

Re: cvs mailing broken

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "VG" == Viktor Griph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

VG> It seems as if messages of cvs commits are broken currently.

Yes, sorry, things filled up over the holiday.  I fixed it yesterday.

 - J<

Problems building snap-20050924

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

cvs [update aborted]: connect to cvs.fvwm.org(129.7.128.34):2401 failed: No 
route to host

Problems building snap-20041011

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

P ChangeLog
P NEWS
cvs update: warning: configure.in was lost
U configure.in
P fvwm/virtual.c
acinclude.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FUNC_SELECT
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending%20aclocal
acinclude.m4:87: warning: underquoted definition of pds_CHECK_TYPE
acinclude.m4:126: warning: underquoted definition of smr_SWITCH
acinclude.m4:171: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHLIB
acinclude.m4:218: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHINCLUDES
acinclude.m4:259: warning: underquoted definition of smr_CHECK_LIB
acinclude.m4:303: warning: underquoted definition of mg_DEFINE_IF_NOT
acinclude.m4:332: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK
acinclude.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:664: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:1010: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_PKG_CONFIG
acinclude.m4:1043: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FT2
acinclude.m4:1178: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FC
acinclude.m4:1334: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_XFT
/usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of 
XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
/usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of 
PKG_CHECK_MODULES
/usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG
/usr/share/aclocal/libole2.m4:18: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBOLE2
/usr/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
/usr/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE
acinclude.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FUNC_SELECT
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending%20aclocal
acinclude.m4:87: warning: underquoted definition of pds_CHECK_TYPE
acinclude.m4:126: warning: underquoted definition of smr_SWITCH
acinclude.m4:171: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHLIB
acinclude.m4:218: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHINCLUDES
acinclude.m4:259: warning: underquoted definition of smr_CHECK_LIB
acinclude.m4:303: warning: underquoted definition of mg_DEFINE_IF_NOT
acinclude.m4:332: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK
acinclude.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:664: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:1010: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_PKG_CONFIG
acinclude.m4:1043: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FT2
acinclude.m4:1178: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FC
acinclude.m4:1334: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_XFT
/usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of 
XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
/usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of 
PKG_CHECK_MODULES
/usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG
/usr/share/aclocal/libole2.m4:18: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBOLE2
/usr/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
/usr/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE
autoheader: WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `config.h.bot'
autoheader: WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `config.h.in'
autoheader: WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged.
autoheader: 
autoheader: WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and
autoheader: WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows to define a template without
autoheader: WARNING: `acconfig.h':
autoheader: 
autoheader: WARNING:   AC_DEFINE([NEED_FUNC_MAIN], 1,
autoheader: [Define if a function `main' is needed.])
autoheader: 
autoheader: WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, see the
autoheader: WARNING: documentation.
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables... 
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for library containing strerror... none required
checking for egrep... grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sy

Re: fvwm-2.5.11 has been released

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Everything's in place and the announcement has been sent.

 - J<
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Re: pserver hangs

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "SDD" == Salvatore Domenick Desiano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SDD> Is there any particular reason that cvs [...] Would just hang
SDD> indefinitely?

Your client is probably out of date.  Some older clients don't talk
well with newer servers.  The FVWM CVS server is running 1.11.17.

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Re: Problems building snap-20040826

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DV" == Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DV> I hope this is fixed now.

I pushed another snapshot.

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Problems building snap-20040826

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

P AUTHORS
P ChangeLog
P acconfig.h
cvs update: warning: configure.in was lost
U configure.in
P fvwm/events.c
P libs/FScreen.c
acinclude.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FUNC_SELECT
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending%20aclocal
acinclude.m4:87: warning: underquoted definition of pds_CHECK_TYPE
acinclude.m4:126: warning: underquoted definition of smr_SWITCH
acinclude.m4:171: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHLIB
acinclude.m4:218: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHINCLUDES
acinclude.m4:259: warning: underquoted definition of smr_CHECK_LIB
acinclude.m4:303: warning: underquoted definition of mg_DEFINE_IF_NOT
acinclude.m4:332: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK
acinclude.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:664: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:1010: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_PKG_CONFIG
acinclude.m4:1043: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FT2
acinclude.m4:1178: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FC
acinclude.m4:1334: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_XFT
/usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of 
XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
/usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of 
PKG_CHECK_MODULES
/usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG
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AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
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acinclude.m4:126: warning: underquoted definition of smr_SWITCH
acinclude.m4:171: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHLIB
acinclude.m4:218: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHINCLUDES
acinclude.m4:259: warning: underquoted definition of smr_CHECK_LIB
acinclude.m4:303: warning: underquoted definition of mg_DEFINE_IF_NOT
acinclude.m4:332: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK
acinclude.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:664: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:1010: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_PKG_CONFIG
acinclude.m4:1043: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FT2
acinclude.m4:1178: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FC
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/usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of 
XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
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PKG_CHECK_MODULES
/usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG
/usr/share/aclocal/libole2.m4:18: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBOLE2
/usr/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
/usr/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE
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Re: Web server error logs

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "UP" == Uwe Pross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

UP> Jason, could you please check the log files in the next days/weeks
UP> and tell me if there are still warnings or errors?

I cleaned out the log file about 15 minutes ago; currently it's only
31K which is certainly better than before.

UP> Is there a way that I can access the log file?

I'll make a symlink to somewhere accessible and send you the link via
private email.

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Re: Web server error logs

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> "KJ" == Kingsly John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

KJ> Wouldn't it be easier to turn off the logging in php.ini ?

Don't ask me; I know very little about PHP.  I have no idea if these
warnings indicate bugs or not, but in my Perl programming I always try
to make sure that the code runs warning free.

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Web server error logs

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www.fvwm.org's error log grows by about 2GB a week lately; this is
almost exclusively due to "Undefined index" or "Undefined variable"
PHP warnings.  The server is running Apache 2.0.50/PHP 4.3.8.  Here's
a selection:

Undefined variable:  navigation_check in 
/local/www/fvwm/documentation/index.php on line 14

Undefined variable:  definitions_has_been_read in 
/local/www/fvwm/definitions.inc on line 35

Undefined variable:  val in /local/www/fvwm/definitions.inc on line 183

Undefined index:  clear_cookies in /local/www/fvwm/definitions.inc on line 148

Undefined index:  cookies_disabled in /local/www/fvwm/definitions.inc on line 
153

Undefined variable:  site_has_been_loaded in 
/local/www/fvwm/documentation/index.php on line 35

Undefined variable:  heading in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/themes/pager_on_top_theme.inc on line 24

Undefined variable:  bg_color in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/default_class.inc on line 34

Undefined index:  top in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/pager_on_top_class.inc on line 193

Undefined variable:  opts in /local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/base_class.inc 
on line 140

Undefined offset:  2 in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/pager_on_top_class.inc on line 159

Undefined offset:  1 in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/pager_on_top_class.inc on line 154

Undefined offset:  0 in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/pager_on_top_class.inc on line 159

Undefined variable:  title_background in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/default_class.inc on line 169

Undefined variable:  td_opts in 
/local/www/fvwm/web-theme/classes/default_class.inc on line 173

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Re: Problems building snap-20040731

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This happened because I updated my machine to FC2.  I cleared out
autom4te.cache and pushed another snapshot.

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Problems building snap-20040731

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cvs update: warning: configure.in was lost
U configure.in
acinclude.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AC_FUNC_SELECT
  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'
  or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending%20aclocal
acinclude.m4:87: warning: underquoted definition of pds_CHECK_TYPE
acinclude.m4:126: warning: underquoted definition of smr_SWITCH
acinclude.m4:171: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHLIB
acinclude.m4:218: warning: underquoted definition of smr_ARG_WITHINCLUDES
acinclude.m4:259: warning: underquoted definition of smr_CHECK_LIB
acinclude.m4:303: warning: underquoted definition of mg_DEFINE_IF_NOT
acinclude.m4:332: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK
acinclude.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:664: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
acinclude.m4:1010: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_PKG_CONFIG
acinclude.m4:1043: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FT2
acinclude.m4:1178: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_FC
acinclude.m4:1334: warning: underquoted definition of AM_CHECK_XFT
/usr/share/aclocal/vorbis.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of 
XIPH_PATH_VORBIS
/usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of 
PKG_CHECK_MODULES
/usr/share/aclocal/ogg.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_OGG
/usr/share/aclocal/libole2.m4:18: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBOLE2
/usr/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
/usr/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of 
AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE
Can't locate object method "path" via package "Request" at 
/usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/C4che.pm line 69,  line 111.
aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
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Slashdotted

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

I noticed that traffic to the web site was rather high yesterday.
Today I noticed the Newsforge article:
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/18/1937231

Congrats to everyone.

BTW, I fixed the problem with the automatic website update when I saw
Uwe's message.  I've been upgrading servers here like crazy and
occasionally I forget to replace a crontab.

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CVS hiccup

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I'm in the process of moving the CVS server around, so things may be
iffy for a bit.  It shouldn't take long to get everything going again.

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Re: jitterbug/ML forwarding broken

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> "dv" == dominik vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dv> I just noticed that no bug reports have been forwarded to the
dv> mailing list from Jitterbug for several months.  Jason, can you
dv> fix this?

It looks like someone removed the mailing list address from the
Notification field of the incoming queue.  I put it back and verified
that notifications are getting sent.  I'm still filtering them so you
won't see all of the notices coming from spam, movement of tickets
between queues and such.

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Re: fvwm cvs works with 1.11.14 client

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> "DV" == Dominik Vogt  writes:

DV> Jason, are you 100% sure the cvs server has not been upgraded?

100%.  This version has a local hack, and that hack is still present
in the binary.  Even if someone had compiled their own version, broken
into the machine, replaced the existing binary, and fixed the RPM and
tripwire checksum databases so that the replacement was not noted, the
binary wouldn't have strings from the locally compiled version.

DV> Maybe someone else did it without telling you?

I am the only one that has access.

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Re: cvs down

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> Just checked my home and work Linux machines, same problem.

Do the Linux machines share a common CVS version?  The server is
running 1.11.1p1 plus security patches.  This hasn't changed since the
last CVS security hole.  My home machine is running 1.11.2, but I also
checked 1.11.5 and it works fine as well.  A long time ago we had a
problem with the version of CVS on the server causing client hangs but
that was resolved, and in any case the versions on the server haven't
changed so this has got to be either a networking or client issue.

Also check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn; make sure it's off.

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Re: cvs down

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> I see the cvspserver port 2401 is open. I tried to telnet to that
DE> port, but so far it's hanging just like it does when I try CVS.

Still can't find anything wrong; just did another full checkout from
yet another location and it went fine.  There are no hung CVS
processes on the server and no error messages in any logs.  Other
users seem to be connecting fine.  Nothing has changed on the server
recently that would cause problems.

If anyone else is having problems, please speak up.

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Re: cvs down

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> From work with the internal stuff removed:

Your traceroute output looks weird to me, but it seems that you're
reaching the site OK.  Which means I'm confused; there aren't any
restrictions on the server with regards to which addresses can
connect, and the logs show continued connections from various places.

I suppose you could run nmap against 129.7.128.22 to see if you can
reach any ports there.

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Re: cvs down

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> I'm not getting in from home or work.

Can you traceroute?  (Note the next-to-last hop is supposed to be
null; the router is not on the public Internet.)

DE> Is this the right IP addr:

Yes, 129.7.128.22 is correct.

DE> (Can't seem to ping it either.)

Stupid university network people filter ICMP for all of 129.7/16.
Ping won't work regardless.

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Re: cvs down

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> cvs update cvs [update aborted]: recv() from server cvs.fvwm.org:
DE> Connection timed out

Not sure why; everything seems fine from work and from home.  I see
that connections have been coming in from various places without
interruption pretty much as far back as I have logs.

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Re: fvwm-2.4.18 and fvwm-2.5.10 have been released

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "OC" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

OC> It seems that the fvwm-2.4.18 release has not been announced (fvwm
OC> users list and freshmeat).

A message was sent to fvwm-announce on March 19 at 10:55AM CST.  The
message ID was <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  The subject
was "fvwm 2.4.18".  I received it back from the list.  fvwm 2.5.10 was
announced in the same manner at essentially the same time.

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Problems building snap-20040321

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

cvs [update aborted]: reading from server: Connection reset by peer
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Re: fvwm-2.5.9 released

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OK, the announcement is away.

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Re: fvwm-2.5.9 released

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> "DV" == Dominik Vogt  writes:

DV> The tarballs are in the usual place (the .bz2 tarball is named
DV> *.bz2_ because of an upload problem.

The files are in place.  Please refresh my memory: are beta releases
announced on fvwm-announce?

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Re: fvwm 2.5.8 is released and uploaded

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> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> As usual, please move the tarballs and announce.

I have moved the tarballs, and made the announcement (in between
trick-or-treaters).

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Re: Problems building snap-20031021

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> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> Please do what it says:

Yes, I already cleared up all of the conflicts just after that message
was sent.

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Re: Download web page and snapshots

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> As someone reported recently, snapshots seem to be broken. The
DE> latest one seems to be 20030814.

It seems the crontab got wiped out.  I'll get it restarted.

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Problems building snap-20031021

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? fvwm-snap-20030414
? fvwm-snap-20030415
? fvwm-snap-20030416
P .cvsignore
P AUTHORS
P ChangeLog
P NEWS
cvs server: WindowStyle_proposal.txt is no longer in the repository
P acinclude.m4
cvs server: config.guess is no longer in the repository
cvs server: config.sub is no longer in the repository
U configure.in
cvs server: todo-2.4 is no longer in the repository
cvs server: todo-2.6 is no longer in the repository
cvs server: todo-3.0 is no longer in the repository
P bin/ChangeLog
P bin/fvwm-menu-directory.1
P bin/fvwm-menu-directory.in
P docs/ChangeLog
P docs/DEVELOPERS
P docs/FAQ
U docs/WindowStyle_proposal.txt
U docs/todo-2.4
U docs/todo-2.6
U docs/todo-3.0
P fvwm/add_window.c
P fvwm/colorset.c
P fvwm/conditional.c
P fvwm/decorations.c
P fvwm/events.c
P fvwm/ewmh.c
P fvwm/ewmh.h
P fvwm/ewmh_events.c
P fvwm/focus.c
P fvwm/fvwm.1.in
P fvwm/fvwm.h
P fvwm/menus.c
P fvwm/menus.h
P fvwm/misc.c
P fvwm/modconf.c
P fvwm/move_resize.c
P fvwm/style.c
P fvwm/virtual.c
P libs/CombineChars.c
P libs/FBidi.c
P libs/FImage.c
P libs/FRender.c
P libs/Flocale.c
P libs/Makefile.am
P libs/PictureGraphics.c
P libs/defaults.h
P libs/gravity.c
P libs/gravity.h
P modules/ChangeLog
P modules/FvwmButtons/FvwmButtons.c
P modules/FvwmButtons/parse.c
P modules/FvwmIconBox/FvwmIconBox.c
P modules/FvwmIconBox/icons.c
P modules/FvwmIconMan/FvwmIconMan.h
P modules/FvwmIconMan/fvwm.c
P modules/FvwmIconMan/xmanager.c
P modules/FvwmScript/FvwmScript.c
P modules/FvwmScript/types.h
P modules/FvwmScript/Widgets/Swallow.c
P modules/FvwmTaskBar/FvwmTaskBar.c
P modules/FvwmTaskBar/Start.c
P modules/FvwmTheme/FvwmTheme.1
P modules/FvwmWinList/FvwmWinList.c
P po/.cvsignore
P po/ChangeLog
cvs update: move away po/FvwmScript.ar.gmo; it is in the way
C po/FvwmScript.ar.gmo
U po/FvwmScript.de.gmo
U po/FvwmScript.de.po
M po/FvwmTaskBar.ar.gmo
M po/FvwmTaskBar.ar.po
U po/FvwmTaskBar.de.gmo
U po/FvwmTaskBar.de.po
M po/FvwmTaskBar.fr.gmo
M po/FvwmTaskBar.fr.po
U po/fvwm.de.gmo
U po/fvwm.de.po
P rpm/ChangeLog
P rpm/Makefile.am
P rpm/fvwm.spec.in
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Re: fvwm-2.4.17 is released and uploaded

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Moved and announced.

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Re: vim and 2.5.7 crash

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> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. We need a stack trace.  Core
DE> files are usually only useful on the system they were generated
DE> on.

FYI, a nice 15000-line message containing a core file was sent to the
list, but the filters bounced it to me for approval and I don't think
I'll be sending it on.

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Re: Voting page nearly ready

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> "UP" == Uwe Pross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

UP> I am going to keep the voting stuff at my university account since
UP> there I can allow the web server to change files.

I could easily give you a MySQL database to play with if that would
make things easier for you.

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[giacocap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Italian translation of first "Page closed.....software patents"

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This was just sent to fvwm-owner:

--- Begin Message ---
Hi, i'm Giacomo, an italian medical student. I've just traslated in
italian language the page the protest against software patents is in. If
you need that, you can use that.

Greetings from Italy!

Here it is:

"Sito chiuso.
Questo sito ~ temporaneamente chiuso per protestare contro i brevetti
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Re: repost - mailing-list(s) upgrades

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "NS" == Nadim Shaikli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

NS> Jason, I had posted this email in hopes to see your comments and
NS> possibly see some movement to resolve item-1 (at a min) as noted
NS> within,

If this is regarding a MHonArc update then I'll be happy to accept the
donation of a MHonArc config file and save myself the work.  If it's
not involving a MHonArc update then please supply some more context.

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Problems building snap-20030702

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

? fvwm-snap-20030414
? fvwm-snap-20030415
? fvwm-snap-20030416
? po/FvwmScript.ar.gmo
P ChangeLog
U configure.in
P todo-2.6
P libs/FBidi.c
P libs/FBidi.h
P libs/FBidiJoin.c
P libs/FCombineChars.c
P libs/FCombineChars.h
P libs/Flocale.c
configure.in:468: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:515: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:532: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:718: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:736: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:945: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:999: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:1014: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:1019: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:468: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:515: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:532: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:718: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:736: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:945: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:999: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:1014: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:1019: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
Makefile.am:7: required directory ./tests does not exist
Makefile.am:7: required directory ./tests does not exist
Makefile.am:7: required directory ./tests does not exist
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... (cached) no
checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... (cached) no
checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for pkg-config... (cached) no
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
checking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XShmQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
checking whether to enable Xinerama emulation on one screen (useful only for 
developers)... no
checking for XRenderComposite in -lXrender... yes
checking for freetype-config... (cached) no
checking for FreeType - version >= 6.1.0... no
*** The freetype-config script installed by FreeType 2 could not be found.
*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to freetype-config.
checking for xft-config... (cached) no
checking for Xft - version >= 2.0.0... checking for XpmReadFileToXpmImage in 
-lXpm... yes
checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
checking for Xpm 3.4g or better... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... yes
checking for png.h... yes
checking for libpng 1.0.4a or better... yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... (cached) no
checking for rplay_create in -lrplay... no
checking for stroke_init in -lstroke... no
checking with termcap... checking for readline in -lreadline... no
checking with ncurses... checking for readline in -lreadline... yes
checking for readline/history.h... yes
checking for _Xsetlocale in -lX11... (cached) no
checking for XOpenOM in -lX11... (cached) yes
checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... (cached) no
checking for iconv_open... (cached) yes
checking check if second arg of iconv is const... no
checking for nl_langinfo (CODESET)... yes

Re: 2.5.7 is released and uploaded

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Yes, they're in place.

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Re: 2.5.7 is released and uploaded

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

If you don't mind, I'm going to wait until the slashdotting is over.
It's been over two hours and I'm still doing 11Mbps of traffic.

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Holy crap - Slashdotted

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

OK, I guess I'm glad it happened over the weekend, but for christ's
sake.  The web server is pumping a gigabyte every ten minutes.  I
would have tuned it for more connections had I known, but it was
already at 255 (any higher and I have to recompile Apache).

Man, I hope that the networking folks don't look at the traffic graphs
until this drops off the front page.  I've joined the few, the proud,
the Slashdotted.

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Re: Jitterbug comments (Was: Notification: incoming/1020)

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> "dv" == dominik vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dv> Jason, can you do something about it?

I don't think so; not without rewriting Jitterbug, at least.  That
would be quite beyond my level of understanding.

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Re: Switching to the new web design

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> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> Anyway, please either make DirectoryIndex in the apache
MG> configuration override-able, so that we may change the index.php
MG> vus index.html order in .htaccess (preferable), or change this
MG> order explicetely in http.conf.

It already is.  That's what I'm not understanding about your problem.

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Re: Switching to the new web design

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> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> Please uncomment the DirectoryIndex in .htaccess on the server for
MG> a short time (because we don't want the site to be non accessible)
MG> and tell us why apache throws Internal Error 500, it should
MG> not.

Umm, it doesn't?  I really don't see what you're talking about.  I
removed the octothorpe from the second line of the .htaccess file and
the behavior of the web site didn't change at all.  I've put it back
now.

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Build still failing

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

The failed build message was huge, so instead of approving the whole
thing I'll just quote the error:

rm -f FvwmScript.ar.gmo && /usr/bin/msgfmt -c --statistics -o FvwmScript.ar.gmo 
FvwmScript.ar.po
error while opening "FvwmScript.ar.po" for reading: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [FvwmScript.ar.gmo] Error 1

Perhaps my test environment is hosed somehow?

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Re: web pages

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> It returns the result of whatever is configured in ErrorDocument
MG> 404. It may be configured to use a redirection or a local
MG> substitution (this differs in which url of the missing page a user
MG> gets). I prefer a substitution, i.e. /generated/FAQ.html shows the
MG> result of /error/404.php

You can put "ErrorDocument 404 /some/url" in a .htaccess file and
check that in; it should work.

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Problems building snap-20030415

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

? fvwm-snap-20030414
P ChangeLog
P NEWS
U configure.in
P todo-2.6
P docs/ChangeLog
P docs/FAQ
P fvwm/ConfigFvwmDefaults
P fvwm/fvwm.1.in
P fvwm/windowlist.c
P modules/ChangeLog
P modules/FvwmGtk/FvwmGtk.1
P modules/FvwmGtk/windowlist.c
P modules/FvwmProxy/FvwmProxy.1
P modules/FvwmProxy/FvwmProxy.c
P modules/FvwmWindowMenu/FvwmWindowMenu.in
P sample.fvwmrc/system.fvwm2rc-sample-95
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:712: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:730: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:939: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:979: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:994: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:999: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:712: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:730: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:939: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:979: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:994: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:999: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
Makefile.am:7: required directory ./tests does not exist
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... (cached) no
checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... (cached) no
checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
checking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XShmQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
checking whether to enable Xinerama emulation on one screen (useful only for 
developers)... no
checking for XRenderComposite in -lXrender... yes
checking for freetype-config... (cached) no
checking for FreeType - version >= 6.1.0... no
*** The freetype-config script installed by FreeType 2 could not be found.
*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to freetype-config.
checking for XpmReadFileToXpmImage in -lXpm... yes
checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
checking for Xpm 3.4g or better... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... yes
checking for png.h... yes
checking for libpng 1.0.4a or better... yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... (cached) no
checking for rplay_create in -lrplay... no
checking for stroke_init in -lstroke... no
checking with termcap... checking for readline in -lreadline... no
checking with ncurses... checking for readline in -lreadline... yes
checking for readline/history.h... yes
checking for _Xsetlocale in -lX11... (cached) no
checking for XOpenOM in -lX11... (cached) yes
checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... (cached) no
checking for iconv_open... (cached) yes
checking check if second arg of iconv is const... no
checking for nl_langinfo (CODESET)... yes
checking for fribidi-config... no
checking for msgfmt... (cached) /usr/bin/msgfmt
check

Re: web pages

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> The problem with this is that you should first commit and only
MG> after some time (it is updated once in several hours) check out
MG> fvwm.org or fvwm.sf.net, because links like "file://..." or
MG> "http://localhost/"; can't be checked.

The fvwm.org web server pulls from CVS every ten minutes.

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Problems building snap-20030405

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

P COPYING
cvs server: ETHICAL_LICENSE is no longer in the repository
U configure.in
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:712: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:730: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:937: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:977: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:992: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:997: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:712: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:730: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:937: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:977: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:992: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:997: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... (cached) no
checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... (cached) no
checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
checking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XShmQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
checking whether to enable Xinerama emulation on one screen (useful only for 
developers)... no
checking for XRenderComposite in -lXrender... yes
checking for freetype-config... (cached) no
checking for FreeType - version >= 6.1.0... no
*** The freetype-config script installed by FreeType 2 could not be found.
*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to freetype-config.
checking for XpmReadFileToXpmImage in -lXpm... yes
checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
checking for Xpm 3.4g or better... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... yes
checking for png.h... yes
checking for libpng 1.0.4a or better... yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... (cached) no
checking for rplay_create in -lrplay... no
checking for stroke_init in -lstroke... no
checking with termcap... checking for readline in -lreadline... no
checking with ncurses... checking for readline in -lreadline... yes
checking for readline/history.h... yes
checking for _Xsetlocale in -lX11... (cached) no
checking for XOpenOM in -lX11... (cached) yes
checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... (cached) no
checking for iconv_open... (cached) yes
checking check if second arg of iconv is const... no
checking for nl_langinfo (CODESET)... yes
checking for fribidi-config... no
checking for msgfmt... (cached) /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt... (cached) /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext... (cached) no
checking for msgmerge... (cached) no
checking for msguniq... (cached) no
checking for NLS fvwm messages catalogs... ar fr
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checking for libintl.h... (cached) y

Re: New links for fvwm link page

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "UP" == Uwe Pross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

UP> BTW: I noticed the bug tracking system of fvwm. This is not in the
UP> fvwm-web tree. We might port it to php as well.

The bug tracking system is an actual installed application requiring
setuid binaries and such, so there's no way it could be in the CVS
tree.  I'll be investigating bugzilla for another project, so it might
be a viable alternative.  If you can implement something in PHP then I
certainly won't argue.

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Re: Ethics and some straight talking

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> "dv" == dominik vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dv> I just hope in the future people's privacy can be accepted when
dv> they subscribe or unsubscribe.

Well fuck me.  I give up.

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Re: Ethics and some straight talking

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> "CH" == Charles Hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

CH> And this is the last thing I have to say on the subject.  I'm
CH> unsubscribing from the lists with my next email.

I can verify that he has left.

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Re: web design thread

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> "UP" == Uwe Pross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

UP> Since I don't know what the web server at fvwm.org serves first I
UP> will keep home.php until the site is published officially.

I believe I have it set to serve html before php:

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php index.php4 index.php3 
index.cgi

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Re: web site design thread

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> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> Jason, can you please enable php stuff in apache running on
MG> fvwm.org? If you don't know what to do for this, you may ask here.

I'm stuck in version hell at the moment (PHP requires some version of
OpenSSL while other packages require different versions) so I'm going
move the web services to another machine.  This should be done this
evening.

MG> We should grant write permissions to Uwe to update fvwm-web
MG> cvs. Uwe, you may send your encrypted password to Jason.

I've received his password, it's getting set up now.

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Problems building snap-20030216

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

P ChangeLog
U configure.in
P fvwm/fvwm.1.in
P modules/ChangeLog
P modules/FvwmPager/x_pager.c
configure.in:463: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:510: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:527: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:714: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:915: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
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configure.in:975: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
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checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
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checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
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checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
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*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
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Re: Problems building snap-20030212

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

I fixed the problem and pushed a new snapshot.

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Problems building snap-20030212

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

U configure.in
P tests/ChangeLog
cvs server: conflict: tests/hints/Makefile is modified but no longer in the 
repository
C tests/hints/Makefile
U tests/hints/Makefile.am
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Re: More CVS work on the way

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> I would not include any diffs, or we need 2 mailing lists, one for
MG> discussions and one for the full cvs logs/diffs.

[...]

Well, that's the longest discourse against something that you don't
even have to read I've seen in a long time.  The idea was to include
just a little more information when it makes sense; as you may note, I
currently have it limited to 100 lines of diff so it's not as if the
full diffs are always included.  I find that anything that saves me
the time required to go to a shell and type some cvs commands is an
improvement.  Especially for small bug and typo fixes where there's
little point in composing a long commit message that would end up
larger than the fix itself.

But hey, I'll certainly use it for my projects and if you folks don't
want it then I'll just leave the option off.

I suppose you'd argue similarly against including diffstat output?

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Re: More CVS work on the way

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DE" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DE> I hope you'll be bypassing diffs on the screenshot images. I think
DE> most of them were checked in as binary.

Yeah, it doesn't diff binary files.  I'm not really sure what a diff
of a binary would look like anyway.

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More CVS work on the way

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Folks, after I get back in from dinner I'm going to start some work on
the CVS server.  The first order of business is to toss the commit
scripts we're using and move to something more recent.  The next step
will be to set up an ACL system.

This should all be pretty low impact.  It's possible that a few commit
messages will come out odd until I tweak things.

One question, however: I've hacked the new commit scripts to include
diffs up to a certain size, which I've currently set at 100 lines.
I've always liked seeing diffs as part of a commit message, but I'm
not sure how big they should be allowed to get.  Is 100 lines about
right, or should I go larger?

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Re: fvwm-2.4.15 has been released and uploaded

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

I've put the files in place and mailed the announcement.

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CVS server downtime

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

I'm going to move the CVS services to another host.  This should be a
quick operation, but it may take a bit for any cached DNS records to
expire.  If you have trouble reaching the CVS server for more than
about 15 minutes or so, make sure that cvs.fvwm.org is resolving to
129.7.128.22.

Once this move is completed, I'll begin experimenting with better
notification scripts and install an ACL system.  I'll be doing most of
this in a separate repository so things shouln't break while I'm
experimenting, but please notify me immediately if you notice any
problems.

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Re: Error on commit

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "MG" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MG> I got this message after seeing all files are commited: 2003-01-02
MG> 02:01:11 Exim configuration error group manager, referred to in
MG> line 209, was not found

Sorry; this should be fixed now.

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Re: FVWM: Premature close of OpenInterface GUI

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DV" == Dominik Vogt  writes:

DV> Damn, I sent that mail on friday.

It only recently traveled from schlund.de to mail.gmx.net:

Received: from eth0.gw-ma-b.core.es.ka.schlund.de (HELO erdbeere.schlund.de) 
(195.20.224.7)
  by mail.gmx.net (mp009-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2002 10:21:33 -
Received: from luthien by erdbeere.schlund.de with local
id 18MtIZ-0004bH-00
for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:08:27 +0100

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Re: ANNOUNCE for 2.4.14

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

Did someone want to mail an announcement to fvwm-announce@fvwm.org, or
should I?  Which text should I use?  I'm running on autopilot mode
right now since I'm occupied with in-laws.

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Problems building snap-20021129

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

? fvwm-snap-20020523.tar.gz
? fvwm-snap-20020524.tar.gz
P ChangeLog
P Makefile.am
P acconfig.h
P acinclude.m4
U configure.in
P bin/ChangeLog
P bin/fvwm-config.1
P bin/fvwm-config.in
P fvwm/ConfigFvwmSetup
P fvwm/Makefile.am
P fvwm/add_window.c
P fvwm/bindings.c
P fvwm/borders.c
P fvwm/builtins.c
P fvwm/commands.h
P fvwm/events.c
P fvwm/expand.c
P fvwm/frame.c
P fvwm/functable.c
P fvwm/fvwm.c
P fvwm/misc.c
P fvwm/move_resize.c
P fvwm/screen.h
P fvwm/virtual.c
P fvwm/windowlist.c
P libs/Colorset.c
U libs/FGettext.c
U libs/FGettext.h
P libs/Makefile.am
P modules/ChangeLog
P modules/FvwmForm/FvwmForm-Setup.in
P modules/FvwmTaskBar/FvwmTaskBar.c
P modules/FvwmTaskBar/Goodies.c
P modules/FvwmTaskBar/Makefile.am
U po/ChangeLog
U po/FvwmTaskBar.fr.gmo
U po/FvwmTaskBar.fr.po
U po/FvwmTaskBar.pot
U po/Makefile.am
U po/README
U po/fvwm.fr.gmo
U po/fvwm.fr.po
U po/fvwm.pot
U po/remove-potcdate.sed
U po/remove-potcdate.sin
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:713: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:914: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:954: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:969: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:974: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:713: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:914: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:954: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:969: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:974: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking whether to enable fancy pixmap titlebars... yes
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... (cached) no
checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... (cached) no
checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking whether to enable GNOME window manager hints... yes
checking whether to enable Extended WM Hints Support... yes
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
checking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
checking whether to enable Xinerama emulation on one screen (useful only for 
developers)... no
checking for XRenderComposite in -lXrender... yes
checking for freetype-config... (cached) no
checking for FreeType - version >= 6.1.0... no
*** The freetype-config script installed by FreeType 2 could not be found.
*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to freetype-config.
checking for XpmReadFileToXpmImage in -lXpm... yes
checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
checking for Xpm 3.4g or better... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... yes
checking for png.h... yes
checking for libpng 1.0.4a or better... yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... (cached) no
checking for rplay_create in -lrplay... no
checking for stroke_init in -lstroke... no
checking with termcap... checking for readline in -lreadline... no
checking with ncurses... checking for r

Problems building snap-20021114

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

? fvwm-snap-20020523.tar.gz
? fvwm-snap-20020524.tar.gz
P ChangeLog
P NEWS
U configure.in
P fvwm/bindings.c
P fvwm/builtins.c
P fvwm/eventmask.h
P fvwm/events.c
P fvwm/fvwm.1.in
P fvwm/module_interface.c
P libs/Bindings.c
U libs/Bindings.h
P libs/Grab.c
P libs/Grab.h
P libs/fvwmlib.h
P modules/ChangeLog
P modules/FvwmForm/FvwmForm.c
P modules/FvwmForm/FvwmForm.h
P modules/FvwmForm/ReadXServer.c
P modules/FvwmIconBox/FvwmIconBox.c
P modules/FvwmIconBox/FvwmIconBox.h
P modules/FvwmIconMan/readconfig.c
P modules/FvwmProxy/ConfigFvwmProxyDefaults
P modules/FvwmProxy/FvwmProxy.c
P modules/FvwmScript/FvwmScript.c
P modules/FvwmScript/Instructions.c
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:713: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:857: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:897: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:912: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:917: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:462: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:509: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:526: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:713: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:857: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:897: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:912: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
configure.in:917: warning: AC_TRY_RUN called without default to allow cross 
compiling
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking whether to enable command logging... no
checking whether to enable debugging messages... no
checking whether to enable fancy pixmap titlebars... yes
checking imagepath... /usr/include/X11/bitmaps:/usr/include/X11/pixmaps
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E
checking for POSIXized ISC... no
checking for minix/config.h... (cached) no
checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... (cached) no
checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... (cached) no
checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
checking for connect... (cached) yes
checking for remove... (cached) yes
checking for shmat... (cached) yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... (cached) yes
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking whether to enable GNOME window manager hints... yes
checking whether to enable Extended WM Hints Support... yes
checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... yes
checking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... yes
checking for XineramaIsActive in -lXinerama... yes
checking whether to enable Xinerama emulation on one screen (useful only for 
developers)... no
checking for XRenderComposite in -lXrender... yes
checking for freetype-config... (cached) no
checking for FreeType - version >= 6.1.0... no
*** The freetype-config script installed by FreeType 2 could not be found.
*** If FreeType 2 was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the FT2_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to freetype-config.
checking for XpmReadFileToXpmImage in -lXpm... yes
checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
checking for Xpm 3.4g or better... yes
checking for png_read_info in -lpng... yes
checking for png.h... yes
checking for libpng 1.0.4a or better... yes
checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... (cached) no
checking for rplay_create in -lrplay... no
checking for stroke_init in -lstroke... no
checking with termcap... checking for readline in -lreadline... no
checking with ncurses... checking for readline in -lreadline... yes
checking for readline/history.h... yes
checking for _Xsetlocale in -lX11... (cached) no
checking for XOpenOM in -lX11... (cached) yes
checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... (cached) no
checking for iconv_open... (cached) yes
checking check if

Re: CVS request

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DV" == Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DV> No, the was no discussion.

Glad to know I'm not that forgetful.

DV> Adter talking him into putting his module in the source tree we
DV> can hardly denly him write access

OK, I've set up the CVS account; everything should be ready to go.
Jason, if you do want to send me a different crypted password
privately, I'll update things.  Otherwise, you're ready to check out a
fresh tree and start committing.

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Re: CVS request

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "j" == jpweber  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

j> The CVS page didn't say where to ask, so I'll try it here. I am
j> requesting access to the CVS tree.

I do the setup, but I might have missed the discussion where the cabal
accepted you into the ranks of the annointed.  Was I asleep at the
wheel?

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Re: branch name in commit messages?

[Jason L Tibbitts III]

> "DV" == Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

DV> Doesn't seem to work yet.  The last commit message from the 2.4
DV> branch looked like any other message before.

Internally the script keeps track of a branch and I changed it to
include that in the script, but it doesn't look like what it calls a
branch has anything to do with what you're calling a branch.  Either
that, or CVS has changed its output at some point.

The current scripts are pretty nasty; they were even nasty before I
started messing with them; I'm looking into other scripts that do the
same kind of thing as a fresh base for hacking.

DV> P.S.: Should I continue to mail you these messages personally in
DV> addition to the list mail or do you prefer to get them only via
DV> the lists?

There are some days when I barely get through my main inbox, much less
all of the other mail I get, so it's probably best to give me a CC if
it's even mildly important.

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