List of updates to get from OS 10.4.0 to 10.4.11

2008-12-05 Thread Paul
I finally got around to doing this. I did a clean install of 10.4.0 and then ran Software Update. I don't have exact information about which ordering is best, but I don't think it hurts to start with the 10.4.11 combo update and then do the security update. The Java updates should be in the

G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Durant
I have had a problem similar to other postings on this list with my G5 single and 10.5.5. I don't think there was a kernel crash, I couldn't find it in the logs at any rate, but I have been experiencing problems with the system becoming very slow. I ran Disk Utility from my system with no errors.

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lampbay wrote: Running any form of Windows or Microsoft software on my Mac is not the issue - not because I dislike MS software, but because I prefer Apple and Mac software. Plus, I don't want to have any pesky bugs

Re: List of updates to get from OS 10.4.0 to 10.4.11

2008-12-05 Thread Clark Martin
Paul wrote: I finally got around to doing this. I did a clean install of 10.4.0 and then ran Software Update. I don't have exact information about which ordering is best, but I don't think it hurts to start with the 10.4.11 combo update and then do the security update. The Java updates

Re: Display card and resolution support

2008-12-05 Thread dorayme
On Dec 5, 1:25 am, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:01 AM, dorayme wrote: (btw. I am finding that a new post to this list from my Mail.app never gets through. That's weird, I never use the GG web interface, just Mail. Is it only   this list or is it all GG

TOPIC: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread lampbay
As long as Apple remains a company committed to forcing users to buy their computer hardware to run their computer software, they will always be a second rate company committed solely to the profit motive and greed. But, as the future of computing is multi-platform - any desktop or

Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread lampbay
The competition is actually a weird combination of hardware and OS. I love the fact that Dell's Linux packages are the same price as their Windows packages. Because the major cost is in the hardware not the OEM OS installed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Kris Tilford
On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Hmmm, I'd heard of that command before but had never delved into it. Clearly blessing of OS X is officially sanctioned, but you still don't hear it much. Mostly because people don't usually get into shell commands when the GUI equivalent

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Nikki Wraith
Chances are very good that ram would cause an issue in OS X. It has some pretty strict specs for RAM, in regards to error corrections and timing. On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Brian Durant wrote: Thanks for your reply, Kris. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread dc
Chances of RAM acting up with Leopard are actually pretty good. I have several older Macs, Cube, Digital Audio, Sawtooth, etc. All had the RAM maxed out odds and ends from old Dell PCs, aBay, or other non-Mac sources. All were running 10.4 flawlessly but started KPing with Leopard. I downloaded

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Durant
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chances of RAM acting up with Leopard are actually pretty good. I have several older Macs, Cube, Digital Audio, Sawtooth, etc. All had the RAM maxed out odds and ends from old Dell PCs, aBay, or other non-Mac sources. All were

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Tony Gamble
On 5-Dec-08, at 9:09 AM, Brian Durant wrote: s there a similar program that will run under Ubuntu PPC? I don't have a functioning OS X system at this point. Ubuntu and Leopard are on separate partitions, but on the same disk. I have been running Ubuntu for 8 months with Tiger and 4

Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:16 AM, PeterH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 4, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: IBM has targeted Power toward the high-end server and supersupercomputer markets. Cool, I can get one by trash picking in 10 years! LOL :) Perhaps zero cost for

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Sam Macomber
On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM, James E. Therrault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lampbay wrote: Running any form of Windows or Microsoft software on my Mac is not the issue - not because I dislike MS software, but because I prefer

Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Dennis Myhand
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:16 AM, PeterH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps zero cost for the hardware, but IBM will charge you one hundred thousand dollars PER MONTH, or more, for the software license. Even if I don't give it a line to call home? ;-) You

Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 5, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:16 AM, PeterH wrote: Perhaps zero cost for the hardware, but IBM will charge you one hundred thousand dollars PER MONTH, or more, for the software license. I thought IBM was pushing Linux now? I thought they're a

Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Dan
At 8:37 AM -0500 12/5/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/08, Dan wrote: As for your clone argument... pt. The clone situation failed because they offered machines that had the same performance and were otherwise often better than Apple's. I don't understand what you're saying. Clones

Re: Apple Psystar Come To A Settlement!

2008-12-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:07 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: I have worked with IBM as a contractor and generally this company was a large inflexible monolith where the term innovation was virtually a non entity. For the manufacturing, integration and operations arms of the company, yes,

Re: Please, G4, Spit out that CD for me...?

2008-12-05 Thread Yersinia
Chuck writes, Never heard of the 'mouse power button' = eject. What works for me is 'mouse button' ONLY --- while booting. of course. Yes, that's it -- while the G4 is powered down, hold down the mouse button while simultaneously pushing the power button on the G4. The machine will boot up,

Re: LCD screen flickering and going black.

2008-12-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:53 AM, dorayme wrote: If it has solved the problem I am sort of wondering what could have happened in general terms? I fire up a PC now and then and switch it to VGA. The Mac runs on the DVI input. I also experimented with a set top box for TV on yet another input,

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Durant
I did a quick and dirty install (basic) of 10.5.5, downloaded Rember and ran it set to use all memory for 1 loop. All tests passed, so I guess I can assume there isn't a memory issue? Cheers, Brian On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:39 PM, dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chances of RAM acting up with

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Durant
I installed the optional memtest, but can't find how to use it in the documentation. What do I need to do? Cheers, Brian On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Dec 5, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Brian Durant wrote: I did a quick and dirty install (basic) of

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 03/12/2008 19:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 2:23 pm + 12/4/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: That was a bad, bad article. pressing 'h' does nothing; to rest the pram you must boot while simultaneously holding down the command- option-p-r keys, which always required me to

Re: G5 and 10.5.5 nightmare.

2008-12-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 5, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Brian Durant wrote: I installed the optional memtest, but can't find how to use it in the documentation. What do I need to do? This forum posting talks about it: http://www.macgurus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24022 Press x at the first AppleJack menu. --

Re: Currently Best DVD DL for a QS

2008-12-05 Thread PeterH
On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:33 AM, insightinmind wrote: Suggestions for a DVD DL for my QS? Have Toast 6 Titanium ... then just need the Disks ... Pioneer DVR-116D?: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/DVR116DBK/ I updated ALL my desktop G4s to DL burning via Pioneer DVR-109 through

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Yersinia
Ken writes, On older Macs that works. On my MDD (not really very new, but...) the only power key is on the front of the machine. Pointy nose or pencil is a viable tool! OMG, what timing you should mention this! I have yet to zap the PRAM on my G4 Quicksilver 867 (though I was discussing the

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Len Gerstel
On Dec 5, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Yersinia wrote: Now the real challenge -- hands full on the keyboard, body twisted over to touch my nose to the power button on the Quicksilver (when I won't be able to tell where my hands are without being able to see, which I won't be able to do, and THEN

trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1

2008-12-05 Thread ll
I am the lady who 10.3 on her Power G3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and wanted to use classic. The suggestions you gave me thankfully got rid of the panic error and i installed 10.3 again. I still couldn't use 9 though. It was wet,cold and snowy today so I decided to try from the other end. 9.1 would

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 05/12/2008 11:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 10:20 AM -0800 12/5/2008, Ken wrote: I may have this wrong, but I hold the Command, Option and R down with my left hand. Then hit the R and power with my right. :-P On older Macs that works. On my MDD (not really

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 05/12/2008 13:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While having the power key on the keyboard certainly simplifies zapping the PRAM it's not like you actually have to hold down Command-Option-P-R while turning on the power. You only need to hit the COPR combo before the

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Yersinia
Len writes, The good news is that you do not need to hold the power button for the three chimes. You press it once, let go and then wait through three chimes. Should be about 30 seconds of holding command option p-r. The other contortionist option is to move your keyboard next to your Mac

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Davis wrote: On Dec 4, 2008, at 2:44 PM, Yersinia wrote: snip If I have a deliberately unblessed OS 9 system folder, how is it going to be able to boot my Mac in OS 9 when I want it to? If the act of choosing a system folder in

Re: G4 Problem Booting OS 9

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:58 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:24 PM, Charles Davis wrote: deliberately unblessed' ? I've never heard of doing that for any reason. The OS9 installations are 'blessed' as a part of the installation process. No special effort needed. The

Re: Command-option p-r

2008-12-05 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Ken wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 03/12/2008 19:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 2:23 pm + 12/4/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: That was a bad, bad article. pressing 'h' does nothing; to rest the pram you must boot while simultaneously holding down the