Re: Opinions on defunct G4 sawtooth
Brian Christmas wrote: G'day I just been to my neighbours house, where a tricked out G4 Sawtooth is playing up. The computer seems to boot, and the monitor light comes on (green) after a few seconds, but there's no picture. Would it be the radeon 7000 GC, or the monitor? Sounds like a dead PRAM Battery. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Opinions on defunct G4 sawtooth
I'd try to connect another monitor first. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA On PowerMac G4
Hi. I am looking at more of a one off just to hook my hard drive up from my Intel iMac. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: SATA On PowerMac G4 From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16/10/2008 14:21 You will get much faster transfer rates using a PCI card than if you try to run the drives through the USB ports. This is the card I use in a DA G4 and another one in a PPC G5: http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1v4/ It is running a striped RAID array with 3 Seagate SATA drives. Seritek cards come in a variety of internal and/or external port configurations. On Oct 16, 6:50 am, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. What's the easiest way to hook up the SATA drive to the G4. Can you get internal IDE to SATA converters? Can you buy PCI to SATA cards? Would a USB to SATA be a better idea? I have seen these quite cheap on eBay, but they all say USB2 and my G4 only has USB1.1. Would this work albiet slow or does it have to be USB2? Any ideas? Simon ---www.simonroyal.co.ukandwww.nmug.org.uk(sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SATA On PowerMac G4
Hi. I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. What's the easiest way to hook up the SATA drive to the G4. Can you get internal IDE to SATA converters? Can you buy PCI to SATA cards? Would a USB to SATA be a better idea? I have seen these quite cheap on eBay, but they all say USB2 and my G4 only has USB1.1. Would this work albiet slow or does it have to be USB2? Any ideas? Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: a tiny G4 on a PCI card,
On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:46 PM, Mullin9 wrote: Do you have a PCI card, with a G4 Processor, RAM, and PPC soldered to it, I like to put a tiny G4 Mac Logic Board, in my Mac Pro, using a PCI-X slot, and Boot Mac OS 9 natively, basically a PCI card with PPC CPU/ RAM hardware wired to it. No such critter exists, or to my knowledge has ever existed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I convert a Flash (.swf) file to mpg?
On Oct 15, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: On 16/10/2008, at 3:00 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 15, 2008, at 7:03 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day listers I'd very much like to convert captured Jing .swf movies to any format that can be opened by iMovie. Does anyone know how I might be able to do this? QT Pro (possibly with Perian installed) will deal with SWF files, and let you convert them. The others mentioned deal with flash video files (.flv) like those on YouTube. My favorite too for those is cosmopod, a Safari Plugin. Perian also lets you deal with .flv files in QT. Massively useful tool, turns QT pro into a major conversion tool. Thanks Bruce, but Quicktime Pro with the latest Perian won't open those darn things either. Very frustrating. They may be weird stuff, can you point to an example of one on the web so I can look at it? I've seen streaming stuff wrapped in a .swf or .flv wrapper that does not allow capture, so there may be nothing to convert. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA On PowerMac G4
On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi. I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. Would be interested in what happened to your Intel iMac. Age, symptoms, etc. I have one that is a year and a half old and would like to know what to expect. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I convert a Flash (.swf) file to mpg?
http://www.techspansion.com/ used to have iSquint and Visualhub. They seem to be moving into open source right now. I think they use ffmpeg underneath. On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:03 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day listers I'd very much like to convert captured Jing .swf movies to any format that can be opened by iMovie. Does anyone know how I might be able to do this? Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA On PowerMac G4
John. My Intel iMac was the first model. A 1.83Ghz Core Duo 17. About six weeks ago the machine stopped recognising the internal hard drive. Didn't even pick there was a drive physically connected. Then about two weeks ago the machine stopped working altogether. It would turn on and within seconds turn off again. If I reset the SMC the machine would power on with the fans on full pelt, but nothing else. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: SATA On PowerMac G4 From: John Callahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16/10/2008 18:40 On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi. I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. Would be interested in what happened to your Intel iMac. Age, symptoms, etc. I have one that is a year and a half old and would like to know what to expect. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA On PowerMac G4
On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. I think Apple provided a Hardware Test disc with this iMac? I'd have booted the Hardware Test disc as soon as the internal HD went bad. Alternatively you could have tried a Firewire Target Disk mode boot connected to another Mac via FW. It appears too late for either diagnostic. The USB-PATA/SATA cable that Bruce posted is a good item to own for testing HDs. If you think the HD is good, a Firewire enclosure would be bootable on the Sawtooth. You might get a USB 2.0 PCI card if you're going to use USB, but they only work in OS X. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: a tiny G4 on a PCI card,
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Mullin9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a PCI card, with a G4 Processor, RAM, and PPC soldered to it, I like to put a tiny G4 Mac Logic Board, in my Mac Pro, using a PCI-X slot, and Boot Mac OS 9 natively, basically a PCI card with PPC CPU/ If you really wanted to experiment, you might take a look at the OrangeMicro OrangePC PCI cards. There is on currently on ebay and they show there up regularly. They were a self contained unit, with processor, RAM slots, video, etc, that allowed to to run Windows 95, NT or 98 on a Mac. I still have one in my 9600 running Windows 98. The last known machine they worked in was the G3BW units. I suppose you could figure out how to swap the processor and bios. However, I don't know what you would do about getting it to boot in OS 9. The Orange cards came with special software that allowed you to configure the card, install software, and ultimately boot into it. The remains of the OrangeMicro support page is here http:// web.archive.org/web/20010602083110/www.orangemicro.com/support.html where you will find some of the software, manuals, etc. Nancy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SATA On PowerMac G4
Kris. The internal DVD drive was also playing up and it wouldn't pick up the disc. I have a DVD drive in a firewire case but AHT discs will only boot in Apple specified drives. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: SATA On PowerMac G4 From: Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16/10/2008 20:23 On Oct 16, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I'm using a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' as my Intel iMac died. First the internal hard drive went then the machine went altogether. I am now wondering whether the hard drive is fine and the fault is something else. The DC board looks a bit burnt. I think Apple provided a Hardware Test disc with this iMac? I'd have booted the Hardware Test disc as soon as the internal HD went bad. Alternatively you could have tried a Firewire Target Disk mode boot connected to another Mac via FW. It appears too late for either diagnostic. The USB-PATA/SATA cable that Bruce posted is a good item to own for testing HDs. If you think the HD is good, a Firewire enclosure would be bootable on the Sawtooth. You might get a USB 2.0 PCI card if you're going to use USB, but they only work in OS X. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 9 alongside OS X
At 15:23 -0700 10/16/08, Jasiu wrote: I have a 400 MHZ Sawtooth that runs 10.4.11. I would like to put OS 9 on it also. My question is do I need to put OS 9 in the same hard drive as X or can I put it in another hard drive? I tried putting on 9.0.2. It loads ok but then for some reason when I try to run it, it cant find it. If anybody else has processor upgrade info for this model, let me know In the 10.2 days there was a requirement for upgrading OS 9 to 9.1.2 for file system compatibility with OS neXt. Classic mode is a bit different. There was also a requirement for including OS 9 drivers for making a bootable disk of OS 9. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Scanner software works in 10.3 but not 10.4--how come?
HiYa Tom, This may be a stupid question, but upon scanning through this thread a very straight forward solution is jumping out at me. That solution is to operate in 10.3 to use this scanner. The 'stupid' question is whether that overlooks anything seriously important to the functionality or 'safety' of Tom's hardware. I know for a fact that to choose the SCSI Scanner Tom has decided upon to undertake his Slide Scanning with means he took the Much LESS Expensive route for accomplishing it. He was able to do so because he has a SCSI capable computer. If the march of time in the OS world left the Minolta Software behind, I am of the opinion that he should go Oh Well and continue to use 10.3 until his scanning is done. If it's necessary to keep both 10.3 and 10.4 OS's around, it's a small inconvenience to live with -Unless- there are technical obstacles to that. Personally, I'm of the mind that if 10.4 is a requirement for Tom to be in or primarily use, get another quicksilver or a more upscale machine and dedicate one to his Film Scanning. It might also speed up his scanning a lot because he can fiddle away on one Mac while the other fiddles away on his scanning. Please Enlighten Me on any 'holes' in my thoughts on Tom's obstacles here. Knowlege is a wonderful thing. Richard On Oct 14, 10:52 pm, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Quicksilver 1GHz DP running 10.4.11, with a SCSI card (Adaptec 2930) in it to run a big old SCSI Minolta film scanner (Dimage Scan Multi II). The scanner came with its proprietary Minolta software (Dimage Scan Utility), which works very well, but it only works in in 10.3.9. So, to use the scanner, I have to reboot back into 10.3.9 (which is on an external hard drive), do the scans in 10.3, and then reboot into 10.4 again to use them. This is OK, but slow and kind of a nuisance. I sure wish I could scan film in 10.4.11. There are no updates on the Minolta website beyond what I have, which is 2004 software. Anybody got any idea why this software will work in 10.3, but not in 10.4, and how I might get it to work in 10.4? Thanks for any help! Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
Run a speed test here and tell us the results: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ This speed test says 731/128. I called Verizon and had them check my spees. They said it was 864/160. I will send some more answere as soon as possible. Usually, I get the same / similar Speed Test results, also have verizon dsl. But Tonight I am getting 544 / 126 ... and everything downloaded is slow. I was going to call verizon, because I think it's on their end ... having solved a similar service problem last year by them volunteering to switch the IP address to one that is not being used as much ... but they're quite agitated these days ... Have you tried moving your ethernet cable to a different port, if you're connected hard-wired to the DSL modem/router? Sometimes a multiport router will acquire a bad port ... or so I've experienced. Although, since your Down/Up speeds look alright, I'm not sure you're connected to a failing ethernet port. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
Title: Re: Where did the Speed Go? At 5:22 PM -0400 10/11/2008, Wilton Shaw wrote: eMac, using OS 10.5.5. [Verizon ADSL 864/160] Run a speed test here and tell us the results: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ This speed test says 731/128. Good. That's a decent percentage of your rated caps - so your thoughput is good. The problem seems to occur with with anything I try to do. It does it with both Safari and Firefos. [tried clearing caches] Ok. Now we need to see if your DNS is working correctly, hence the dig and traceroute commands described below: Launch Terminal.app and issue these two commands, then copy the full results and paste 'em into a reply here: dig www.google.com traceroute www.google.com - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed go -Part two
At 7:09 PM -0400 10/16/2008, Wilton Shaw wrote: Since I can't add speed to my computer even though I've recently eliminated lots of programs I don't use and followed other suggestions you have sent me, could I do this? Buy a new external HD, start with my installation OS CD and slowly add programs until I find one that slows my program down? This sounds to me like you're ripping things out of your car's engine without first checking to see if you have a flat tire. Not good. Please stick to the original thread. Provide the information requested. Let's figure out what is causing the problem before destroying more of your system. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
At 9:54 PM -0400 10/16/2008, insightinmind wrote: Tonight I am getting 544 / 126 ... and everything downloaded is slow. I was going to call verizon, because I think it's on their end Let's see exactly where the problem is. Show me the results of dig www.google.com traceroute www.speakeasy.net ... having solved a similar service problem last year by them volunteering to switch the IP address to one that is not being used as much ... but they're quite agitated these days ... Switching to a different subnet usually doesn't mean much, unless they're providing alternate routing also. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard On Sawtooth 400mhz
Is the 400 MHz Gigabit Ethernet G4 actually a Sawtooth? Were you running 10..4 previously? How did that run? That might be the optimum OS X for that machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
dig www.google.com traceroute www.speakeasy.net ... having solved a similar service problem last year by them volunteering to switch the IP address to one that is not being used as much ... but they're quite agitated these days ... Switching to a different subnet usually doesn't mean much, unless they're providing alternate routing also. That's what they did a few years ago ... assigned a different range of IP addresses that would be automatically assigned to this area (Lynchburg). I called just now, and they went through a lengthy process, including getting me to restart my modem ... then the speed went back up (new IP address) ... Then ... they said there was nothing they could do, because the speed was back up. I feel I have invaded this thread ... but the problem sounded the same. I'll retreat ... didn't understand what you wanted above ... a Google Search with dig and a speed test on Speakeasy? Its back up to: Speakeasy — Speed Test Test your internet connection speed! By measuring the download and upload rate from the following locations you are able to accurately measure your current line throughput or internet connection speed. Last Result: Download Speed: 733 kbps (91.6 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 125 kbps (15.6 KB/sec transfer rate) So I'll retreat. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS 9 alongside OS X
On Oct 16, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Jasiu wrote: I have a 400 MHZ Sawtooth that runs 10.4.11. I would like to put OS 9 on it also. My question is do I need to put OS 9 in the same hard drive as X or can I put it in another hard drive? I tried putting on 9.0.2. It loads ok but then for some reason when I try to run it, it cant find it. If anybody else has processor upgrade info for this model, let me know You can put it on the same or a different volume, either way works. It can't find it??? Do you mean the Boot ROM can't find the OS 9 System. How are you selecting OS 9 to boot? Does the HD have the OS 9 drivers installed (System Profiler will tell you)? If it doesn't then you won't be able to see the disk when booted in OS 9. Which means you can't boot OS 9 from it. Was the OS 9 System folder also Blessed? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where did the Speed Go?
At 10:37 PM -0400 10/16/2008, insightinmind wrote: dig www.google.com traceroute www.speakeasy.net didn't understand what you wanted above ... a Google Search with dig and a speed test on Speakeasy? No. I wanted the above two commands typed into Terminal, then provide the results here. The dig command tests your DNS servers; the domain being looked up can be anything. The traceroute shows me the path between you and Speakeasy, with timings at each step. With that information, we can usually figure out where the slow-down is occurring... then decide how to approach fixing it. Those are essentially the same types of tests that the Verizon tech ran. But he's concerned with only your connectivity within Verizon's network. I want to examine the whole picture -- the path through the network, through Verizon's network, into your home, into your Mac. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)
I want to confirm my impression of how 3 different kinds of update work: 1. Security Update 2. OS X Update 3. Java update The Security Update seems to be a large file that is only available as a cumulative update, so all previous versions are superseded. The OS X updates seem to come in two flavors - cumulative and incremental, so you can take your pick when you download, depending on how much updating you want to do. The Java updates are large, but seem to be incremental, with later updates requiring earlier updates to be installed. I have other questions about Java: 1. What version should I have on an OS 10.4.11 installation. I got the machine from someone else, and it seems to have Java 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5. My guess is that I don't need 1.3, but is it worth removing, and how would I do it, anyway? 2. If I install 10.4 from scratch, and update to 10.4.11 with one file, what Java updates should I apply? With Java, I'm used to the PC world, where you go to a Sun website and only download the latest updated version you want - for example, the latest 1.4 or the latest 1.6. I run only the latest release of Java 1.6. That seems simpler to me, and the downloads are a lot smaller - 20 MB for each release, rather than Apple's multiple 80 MB update files. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need big LCD monitor recommendation for G5
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:41 PM, RediG3-5 wrote: It must not be. I do see the 1680x1050 option but as mentioned it gives me an iBook sized desk top in the middle of the Display. I also see the Arrangement tab in the the Display Preferences. The Patch Read this indicates this is evidence of the patch installation. Wait. If you have the Arrangement tab, and you arrange the two Desktops, then if you can drag the cursor from one Desktop to the other, you've got spanning enabled. Normally you'd only get mirroring, meaning both monitors are identical, external mirrors the onboard LCD. It sounds like you have a hybrid, you've got spanning, but somehow the resolution of the two Desktops are mirrored instead of independent as they should be. One idea that possibly could help. If you've only used Software Update to update this iBook, you may have only been offered delta updates that are trimmed down of unnecessary software, such as graphics stuff that a mirroring only LCD laptop could never use. The normal Combo update might have extra software to enable the 1680x1050 resolution to work correctly? If you've got a little extra HD space, perhaps reinstall the Combo update and see what happens? I think maybe this iBook isn't compatible. I thought we looked and it was on the supported list? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Confusion about the different update files from Apple (including Java)
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Paul wrote: I want to confirm my impression of how 3 different kinds of update work: 1. Security Update 2. OS X Update 3. Java update The Security Update seems to be a large file that is only available as a cumulative update, so all previous versions are superseded. The OS X updates seem to come in two flavors - cumulative and incremental, so you can take your pick when you download, depending on how much updating you want to do. The Java updates are large, but seem to be incremental, with later updates requiring earlier updates to be installed. This is all correct I believe, except the OS X update statement you can take your pick when you download, depending on how much updating you want to do. If you've been updating incrementally, the next increment, and the next Combo should get you to exactly the same place, so they'll both update you identically if you were currently up- to-date beforehand. The need for the Combo (cumulative) update is for skipping one or all previous increments and going directly to the latest version without having to do each incremental update. Since Apple offers all increments and Combo updates continuously, you could take your pick by choosing to stop short of the current version, but if you're only updating a single increment, using the Combo would be a waste of time, although I always keep a copy of the latest Combo Update just in case I can't connect, and need it in an emergency. I have other questions about Java: 1. What version should I have on an OS 10.4.11 installation. I got the machine from someone else, and it seems to have Java 1.3, 1.4, and 1.5. My guess is that I don't need 1.3, but is it worth removing, and how would I do it, anyway? I don't think you can remove the older versions? I think I tried that once, and then found I need the old version for websites that had java apps built on older versions. I think they coexist and the version needed will run? 2. If I install 10.4 from scratch, and update to 10.4.11 with one file, what Java updates should I apply? I've never seen Software Update make an error in terms of offering a wrong update, or forgetting to offer a needed update. Even if you need or prefer to download the updates separately, using Software Update to tell you what is needed is easiest, and error free as far as I know. With Java, I'm used to the PC world, where you go to a Sun website and only download the latest updated version you want - for example, the latest 1.4 or the latest 1.6. I run only the latest release of Java 1.6. That seems simpler to me, and the downloads are a lot smaller - 20 MB for each release, rather than Apple's multiple 80 MB update files. Complaining about 80MB vs 20MB in this era of $99 1 TB HDs (10¢ per GB) seems outdated. I'd be more concerned about functionality and that Mac Java version releases lag so far behind equivalent Windows versions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
