Re: G4 iMac tells me I don't have privileges
I wasn't talking about giving anyone read + write access to the entire file tree except the administrator. Jane siad she was the sole person and the administrator on that computer. Giving herself access shouldn't be a security issue. On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:36:33 PM UTC-7, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: > > Oh my! > > That is really not reccomended because that demolishes a lot of built-in > security in Unix. OS X has it's permissions stucture for a reason; blindly > giving various users and groups read+write access to the entire file tree > is NOT recommended. > > Things will work, but they won't work safely. > > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 iMac tells me I don't have privileges
I've done the "apply to enclosed items" on quite a number of systems without difficulty. Likely over 200 Macs. Now with 10.8 that's the first thing I do after installing the OS. With 10.8 it's mostly because there's a number of apps and stuff that I have no wish to keep and the OS makes it harder to delete them quickly. I'm basically just adding the ability of the administrator to read and write all files. On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:30:17 PM UTC-7, Valter Viglietti wrote: > > Il giorno 27/03/13 19.50, "Wayne Stewart" ha scritto: > > > In the HD privileges, I'd try clicking on the "apply to enclosed items" > > I strongly suggest to NOT do that! > > After I moved my data from the old G5 to the new iMac, I had this strange > "You don't have privilges" things (that I didn't have on the G5). Grrr!!! > In frustration, I did the "Apply to enclosed items" thing on all my > partitions... > as a result, on the next boot the iMac DID NOT BOOT anymore! :-((( > > Apparently, that action above might seriously mess up things in OSX. > Thank God, I had another computer to use for looking for solutions on the > Net, and I found a way to "heal" all the partitions in good shape again. > Sincerely, I found this privilege thing quite baffling. > > The OP might try to repair permissions, using Disk Utility; this perhaps > could fix eventual mess-up the teenager did. > > > > > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 iMac tells me I don't have privileges
In the HD privileges, I'd try clicking on the "apply to enclosed items" -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: CPU upgrades for Beige G3 DT
Aside from the aftermarket CPUs, you can also use a CPU from a B&W G3. If so I’d suggest avoiding anything below 350mhz as you won’t see that much of an improvement. Your 266 uses a 512k cache, in the B&W the 350mhz and faster used a 1mb cache. That by itself made a noticeable difference. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Beige G3 Desktop External HD Device Boot
How about a Sonnet SATA card? It'll boot OS 9. If you really want an external you can add an eSATA adapter. You can easily get an external case with eSATA and USB or FW so you could easily move data to another machine. New SATA drives ate cheap enough, they're almost giving away small used ones. I've used one to boot OS 9 on a 9600 via an external 1tb Lacie HD (partitioned of course). -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Airport/Time Capsule base station firmware update
For me this could prove awkward as My Airport Extreme doesn't connect to the internet and I don't seem to see a stand alone installer. Looks like a worthwhile update but is it worth hauling the hardware to a different location -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: new dvd burner for G4
All the Lacie D2 DVD drives I've seen used a regular ide optical drive. Since almost any ide optical drive works in the G4, why not just pull it out of the case and install it in the G4 in place of the stock one? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Spillage on keyboard - broken beyond repair?
Don't know if this will be helpful with the aluminum. A friend used to get a lot of earlier keyboards that had had spills from a local shop. He found damaged traces and used a trace pen to repair them. Probably more than it's worth for 1 keyboard but he got in 50 a year and fixed most of them -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card
If it is a failing or marginal power supply you could try removing other cards and running the hard drives off an external power supply. Then if it does reboot when hot, you'll know it's your power supply. If it still doesn't then maybe there's something wrong with the video card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G3 Beige: No Video
You might check to see if the personality card is fully seated. Sometimes in handling the front gets lifted out of the socket. If it is then the built-in video port won't work -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power output problem?
If you do a search with"atx G4" you'll get quite a few hits with pinouts and instructions. I do have a G4 with an ATX power supply. Mine was done with an adapter so that if the ATX power supply ever quits, it's just a matter of plugging another in -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power output problem?
I've had a lot more connected to a G4 than a couple of drives and a 9800. My guess is that your power supply is getting marginal. After 12 years likely the capacitors in the power supply have started going. You could recap the power supply or do an atx conversion. Another option is to power some of the extra equipment from an external power supply, though if your power supply is on the way out then that'd be a short term solution -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fwd: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?
If the budget allows, the ACARD adapter might be a better choice. Once I clocked a 78mb SCSI drive vs an 80gb ide on an ACARD adapter to see how much faster the SCSI drive was. It wasn't, the 80gb on the adapter beat the SCSI drive by a good margin. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, AT&T rv100, apple DVD player conundrum
I thought you needed apples DVD decoder card to play DVDs from OS 9. It doesn't occupy a slot but attaches to the Rage 128 card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 and OS 10.5
You can just go to the Time Machine preference and switch it to off. This just turns of the automatic backup. If you keep Time Machine in your menu bar then you can click on Back Up Now whenever you want one like when you're taking lunch. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and ADC
You could pick up an Apple ADC to DVI adapter, then you could use the display with almost any Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Version Distribution
Got to be something drawing a particular group with Macs more than 6 years old. I know several hundred Mac users and of those that are online, about 1% are doing it with a PPC. They'd be running newer hardware if they could afford to. Actually their budget isn't much over free. iPads are used a bit differently and possibly aren't used for online radio. There's likely over 60 million iPads out there. That's way more than all the PPC Macs ever made On Apr 27, 6:11 am, Darryl wrote: > Very true, although the browser string usually returns architecture info > (PPC, Intel, AMD) and whether 32 or 64 bit. Over Christmas every year I run a > radio station online. For the last year, Dec 11-Jan 12, my logs showed > approximately 1 out of every 3 listeners who's browser string indicated they > were using OS X were on PPC. > > I also saw some iPads for the first time. Barely anyone running Lion... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Version Distribution
Actually if someone says they're running 10.4 or 10.5, it doesn't mean that OS is necessarily running on a PPC Mac. The first Intel machines came with 10.4. I know a number of people still using 10.4 or 10.5 on Intel machines for a variety of reasons. You could purchase10.5 to run on a PPC Mac but it was only original software on Intel machines. A lot of people never upgrade their OS or install updates. Lots of early Macbook Pros are still running 10.4.5 or whatever they came with -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Low Power G5
If you want to save power then a G5 really isn't going to do it, you'd have to go to intel. A Mac Mini or MacBook don't draw a lot of power. You didn't say but I'm guessing you want to be able to use some older apps. You're not likely worried about PPC OSX apps as they'll work up to 10.6. More likely OS 9 apps. There is a way to use OS 9 apps with intel machines. There's SheepShaver or Basilisk II. Lots opf info on those on the net. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iCloud vs. G4
A couple of years ago I was rendering a small HD video on my Macbook Pro. Out of curiosity I tried it on a MDD sporting dual 1.33 mhz processors with 2 mb cache 2gb RAM and a large SATA hard drive. Under OSX it's was faster than any Powerbook ever made. The MBP and MDD ran the same OS and software. On the old MBP it took just under 2 hours but on the G4 it took over 48 hours. I'll bet my currant MBP would do it under an hour. I likely still have the file in my backup. Maybe I'll try it on the new quad core MBP my friend got last week. See if her's will do it in under half an hour. I'd be saddened if Apple dropped the Mac Pro but wouldn't be surprised. I likely know more than a hundred people with MBPs but maybe 2 with Mac Pros and those aren't new ones -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to make external drive bootable
When formatting with Disk Utility, instead of selecting Erase instead select Partition Under Volume Scheme it'll say Currant, change that to 1 partition Now click on the options button and you will be able to select Apple Partition Map On Mar 18, 9:26 am, Dan A wrote: > Hello all... > I have an external disk for backup which I've been using for some > time, both for TM and CCC backups. It is connected to my 17" G4 1.33 > GHz Powerbook using FW. I see that it is not bootable. Disk Utility > shows that it has a GUID Partition Table, while other external drives > that I have use the Apple Partition Map. I'm assuming that is why the > disk is not showing as bootable. I'm willing to wipe out the disk in > order to set it up to be bootable but I don't see any choice in Disk > Utility to do this. I believe that CCC is set to clone and make the > drive bootable but either didn't or if it did... then is the FW > connection the problem? Or what??? I'd appreciate any help on this > one. Thank you. > dan_A > > -- > dan_Ahttp://littleurl.net/danauerbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
The dual 1.25 will work fine in a single 1.25 motherboard. I don't believe it will harm the motherboard. A number of years ago I did have a dual processor where each processor was running a different speed. An error on my part. It was my first try at overclocking and I somehow skipped part of the directions and only overclocked one processor. I used it for a while before I realized my mistake and overclocked the other processor. On Mar 9, 2:22 pm, "David W. Morris" wrote: > Thanks for that great reply Wayne! > > I was beginning to believe that it could not be done. That there was > some reason that prevented swapping the single G4 CPU module for use > on the dual G4 motherboard. > > Now, another question is will the dual G4 CPU module work on the > single G4 motherboard? As I am trying to trade G4 CPU modules with an > owner of a single 1.25GHz G4 MDD PowerMac, it won't be a good trade if > he can't use my dual 1.25GHz G4 CPU module. > > Your idea of changing the clock speed of the unused G4 to its slowest > speed (333MHz), is an interesting option and might be less work and > trouble. My only concern there is the possibility of messing up my > perfectly working motherboard by having two different speeds running > on these G4 CPU's. I would be willing to bet no one has tried it > before, so no one would know what side effects it might cause. > > If it is a simple matter of removing, or reconfiguring some resistors > on the CPU module to slow down just one of the two G4's, I could try > it on the dual 1.25GHz G4 CPU module and keep my dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU > model untouched, in case anything went wrong. > > Anyone else have any comments on this crazy idea? See my original > post on this topic for details of what I am trying to do. Thanks > > David -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
The reason I suggested this is that he's not going to run MacOS in this machine and the OS he's going to use won't use the second processor at all. CHUD won't work in a non MacOS machine. On Mar 9, 8:17 am, Jörg Duurkoop wrote: > Hi, > > > Your dual 1.25 will have a 2mb cache while the single will have a 1mb > > so a dual running on one processor should still be faster than a > > single. > > Why not just install CHUD, a toolbox for developers? Then you can > switch on and off one of the CPUs with a mouse click ... > > This option has been discussed here and I did it. It works great. When > I listen to music, watch a DVD or leave my Mac on at night to download > big files I switch it to single CPU mode. When I need all the power I > can get, browsing on the net or using Adobe apps, I turn on the second > CPU. Works like a charm, de difference in temperature can be up to 16 > centigrades. > > Downgrading a dual MDD would not be very wise IMHO. > > Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD motherboards
You can easily swap CPU modules between MDDs with the same bus speed. You can also do it between MDDs with different bus speeds but you need to do some resistor mods to get the best results or in some cases to work at all Taking out a dual 1.25 and replacing it with a single 1.25 is just plug and play Your dual 1.25 will have a 2mb cache while the single will have a 1mb so a dual running on one processor should still be faster than a single. Let me throw a bizarre idea out there that no one else would likely ever want to do. The dual processors clock speeds are individually set. Why not set the unused processors clock speed to the lowest possible speed. I think that would be 333mhz On Mar 6, 8:44 pm, "David W. Morris" wrote: > Since all the smart people hang out on this list, having kept their G3 > to G5 Mac computers, I thought this would be the best place to ask for > help with this question > > I own a dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac MDD (FW400, not FW800), that I have > upgraded to a stock Apple dual 1.42GHz G4 CPU module. My question is > this: Since I now have two dual G4 CPU modules (dual 1.25GHz & dual > 1.42GHz G4's), I want to trade my dual 1.25GHz G4 CPU module for a > single 1.25GHz G4 CPU module, to a friend of mine that owns a single > 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac MDD. Then I want to look into the possibility of > over-clocking the single 1.25GHz to 1.33GHz, 1.5GHz, or if possible, > 1.67GHz. > > Are all G4 CPU modules for the G4 PowerMac MDD computers > interchangeable (including single and dual G4 models), or in other > words, are all of the motherboards (except the FW 800 model) the same? > > Here are the reasons for this strange question; > > 1. The G4 PowerMac MDD is a very noisy computer > 2. To make it quieter, the fan must be replaced with a quieter > version, which is going to push less CFM's. > 3. If I am going to use this G4 MDD to run an OS that is not SMP > capable, I don't need the 2nd G4 CPU & one way to reduce heat, would > be to use only one G4 CPU. > 4. The single G4 CPU will be okay with the lower CFM's of the quieter > fan. > 5. Using only one G4 CPU will give me greater flexibility to attempt > over-clocking, while still producing less heat than the dual G4 CPU > modules. > > Since I have many other G4 and G5 Mac computers to run MacOSX and > MacOS9 on, repurposing this one Mac for running only an alternative OS > won't hurt my ability to run MacOSX & MacOS9 whenever I need/want to. > > Thanks to anyone here that might be able to answer this strange > question. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclocked MDD
According to iStat pro I'm running 2 degrees Celsius hotter at idle with both processors running. Using CHUD tools to turn on nap dropps my idle temp about 20 degrees C. At 1.5ghz there wasn't any problems. 1.58 is new to me so I'll be keeping an eye on the temp. If I get worried I'll see about adding an extra fan. One thing I may do anyways is pull the plastic grill off the back of the G4. It covers up a lot of the rear air holes. On Mar 7, 10:38 am, "Jesse St.John" wrote: > how are you effectively cooling these as my mdd runs relatively hot > already? and i would lke to do this but i am a chicken and i dont > want to ruin a good thing. i witnessed online a gentlemen who showed > me the resistors on the cpu chip itself to adjust, but decided not to > do it until i had one myslef to try out. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Overclocked MDD
I tried the first one without luck but I was a bit tired and may have made an error. I'll try again in a day or two when I"m more rested Wayne On Mar 6, 11:30 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > I just realized your MDD is dual-CPU. This will likely require a > slightly different patch because the G4 Mini is single CPU. The line > in the patch "dev PowerPC,G4@0" would likely need an additional CPU > which I'd guess would probably be identified as "G4@1"? I don't know > the nuances of Open Firmware, so it's possible the solution for dual > CPUs could be as simple as appending "G4@1" to the "dev PowerPC,G4@0" > like this "dev PowerPC,G4@0,G4@1"? > > Since I don't know the real answer for dual CPUs I think that the > simplest solution would be to enter the entire patch TWICE, once for > G4@0 and once for G4@1 in the line "dev PowerPC,G4@0". > > If you want to do this in a single operation without an intermediate > reboot, you could enter up to step #5 "nvstore" for G4@0 and > then repeat from step #1 again for G4@1 and only after the 2nd step #5 > proceed to #6 & #7 which tell the Mac to use these alternate stored > versions and reboot. > > It's possible you may need to read up on Open Firmware commands for > this dual CPU patch to work correctly, but it should be possible. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Overclocked MDD
I've been trying to do something with a MDD that was a little beyond it so I overclocked a 1.42 to 1.5ghz. That wasn't quite enough so I tried for 1.58ghz. System Profiler is saying 1.5ghz. Xbench tests seems to be showing the correct amount of speedup though it's also saying I have 1.5ghz processors. I'm wondering if I might have had one bad resistor and am running one processor at 1.58 and one at 1.5ghz. I guess the reason I'm wondering is that years ago I tried OCing for the first time with a dual 867 and only did one set of resistors. It felt faster but I had each processor running at a different speed and System Profiler was still saying 867. When I did the second set it read the faster speed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz?
It'll do what you ask provided you have the software. If you're thinking of making DVDs with a camcorder then it'd technically do it but you'd be looking at days to render a full length video. And that's with regular video, you'd grow old waiting for it to render HD video Unless it's a local ebay item that you can pick up I'd think that the cost of buying and shipping it would be more than it's worth. In my local craigslist there's lots of G5s for under $200 and lots of G4s under $75. Plus you can try it out before you buy it. On Feb 24, 9:43 pm, Eleni wrote: > Can you Burn DVD/CDs on PowerMac G3 400MHz under Mac OS 8.6? > > How capable are these PowerMac G3 400MHz? What if you have max memory > installed (1GB)? > > Just saw one on ebay in mint condition, is it worth buying? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Dual quick fan noise fix
It's an OSX preference pane so it won't work on any other OS. I haven't looked into it maybe because I can't see any obvious difference from a user standpoint other than temperatures decrease. I believe it throttles down the processors and possibly shuts one down when not needed. From the computers side, it spends most of it's time idly siting there waiting for the user to do something. The preference pane does have a couple of settings to choose from but it defaults to the off setting on restart. Most people have a script in their login items to turn it on. Wayne On Feb 16, 9:54 pm, "David W. Morris" wrote: > How does CHUD work? Does it shut down one of the G4's when it is not > needed and then wake it up when you are doing something more > demanding, or something that can take advantage of multiple cores, or > G4 CPU's? > > I have seen it mentioned a few times, but don't really know what it > is, or how it works. It would not work or be helpful to me while > running MorphOS2.7, which can only use one of the dual G4 CPU's, > unless it is a utility that can be run and stay resident through a > soft re-boot, into a different operating system. > > It would be great to be able to shut down one of the two G4 CPU's to > reduce heat when running MorphOS2.7 and then turn both G4's back on > when I boot into MacOSX, MacOS9, or any version of Linux PPC. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD Dual quick fan noise fix
Another possible option for people running OSX on a dual PPC is using the CHUD utilities 3.5.2 to turn on nap mode. Some people have had problems with it but it works great for me. On my G4 dual overclocked to 1.5 ghz the CPU idle temp went from 57C to 35C and of course the fans slowed down. Wayne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Adding Firewire port to MDD
I was noticing that all the OS 9 bootable MDD have the solder pads for the components for Firewire 800. I'm wondering if anyone has tried adding the parts? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why doesn't my little drive opening dohicky work?
If nothing else, the drive should open if you hold down the mouse button on boot up If not, I'd try opening the door to the optical bay and pressing the drives eject button and see if it opens that way. If not then you likely have either a bad drive or no power going to it On Jan 7, 1:12 pm, Chance Reecher wrote: > On Jan 7, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Dan wrote: > > > At 11:29 AM -0800 1/7/2012, JIM RAPER wrote: > > >> can't get my super drive to open. I've got the arrow dohicky in my top > >> menu, but when I click on it , it says "No Drives". I rechecked my > >> connections. Everything looks and feels "OK". > > > Does the drive appear in System Profiler? If it doesn't try reseating all > > its cables, power and data. > > Also, make sure you didn't bend any pins on the back of the optical drive. > Another thing to try is switch the power connector with one from one of the > hard drive bays and see if the machine sees the drive. You may not be getting > powere to drive right now because of a bad wire. > > Chance -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: dead mdd 2003 psu
All the MDD power supplies are interchangeable. On Jan 4, 4:00 am, k l wrote: > house fuse blows in a sec when you attach the powerchord, > my guess is the psu > > are the psus interchangeable with older 2 x 867 mhz mdd psu ?? > > the model i want to use it in is the 1.25 mhz year 2003 167 mhz bus 400 fw, > > and a happy new year to all of you ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Analog video input?
I've used a couple of Elgato devices that input S or composite video and send it to a Mac via USB2. I used an earlier product and later the EyeTV 250 Plus. At the time I bought it, it said it required a G4 or higher but when my G4 died in the middle of a project I discovered a G3 worked with both the hardware and software On Dec 16, 12:59 am, "David W. Morris" wrote: > If you don't have a camcorder with firewire output, how do most Mac > users input their analog composite video into their Mac's for > editing? I have a couple older Hi-8mm camcorders and a ton of family > tapes that I want to edit on my Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, but don't > know what is the easiest, or most popular way of importing my video > content. > > Thanks, > AmigaDave > MorphOS2.7 & MacOSX Leopard on 1.5GHz G4 MacMini & Dual 1.42GHz G4 > PowerMac, MorphOS3.0 beta & MacOSX Leopard on 1.67GHz G4 PowerBooks & > Leopard on Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer wrote: > I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the > various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional > item. Out of curiousity: > > 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? > 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip > drive on a 5.25" frame and stuffed into the lower bay? > > Thanks... > John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
733 DA top cover
I have a few G4 DA, one of which is a 733 mhz. It alone happens to have a light grey top cover. I'd suspect that someone swapped it from a Quicksilver. Does anyone know if possibly any late models might have come with a light grey top. Only reason I'm wondering is that I'm turfing the remains of a 466 and would swap the top if the 733 has the wrong one Wayne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade my Quicksilver
Yes, that's a MDD CPU On Nov 16, 12:30 pm, JoeTaxpayer wrote: > The eBay Listing I see says QS as you noted, but P/N 820-1452-A which > looks like an MDD board. > I added a SATA card to my MDD and am happy I did it. Extra RAM can't > hurt. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which G5 or older Mac
I've used Photoshop CS & InDesign CS on intel Macs. MacOS 10.6 and earlier will run PPC software. With the currant 10.7 they eliminated support for PPC software. On Nov 9, 3:01 am, Bill Connelly wrote: > Some day soon, I'd like to upgrade to a faster cpu Mac, from my > current 10.5.8 based models: a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz and a Digital Audio > Dual 533. A Dual 2 GHz sounds really nice ... > > I run many "older" apps such as Photoshop CS, InDesign CS, Adobe > Golive CS, Sibelius 3 and Ableton's Live 6 plus many other PPC based > applications, and have hesitated from upgrading because I thought I > would need all new software for the Intel-based-ness of the newer, > faster Macs. > > Am I wrong? Which Macs can I get, and still run all my software that I > currently run on my PPC G4s under Leopard 10.5.8? > > Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch
How much space is left on your boot volume? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: B&W G3 freezes
Usually when I get freezes it ends up being a faulty RAM strip. Have you tested the RAM or tried swapping out strips? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 20" ADC cinema display issue with G4 450mhz AGP
The AGP G4 came out before ADC and the AGP slot doesn't supply the 25 volts required to power the ADC monitor. Starting with the Gigabit Ethernet machine Apple replaced the 20 pin power supply with a 22 pin power supply which supplied 25 volts. To use your display you need a newer G4, an ADC to DVI adapter(which supplies 25 volts) or you'll need to do some hacking. On Aug 25, 7:15 pm, spilrules wrote: > I have a 20" ADC cinema display that I used to run on my G4 450 dual > processor (Gigabit) machine with an AGP ATI Radeon 32mb video card > upgrade from the standard ATI Radeon with 16mb with no issues. > Unfortunately this machine bit the dust and I replaced it with a G4 > 450 single processor (AGP) machine with the same 32mb ATI Radeon video > card upgrade and this machine will not power on the 20" ADC monitor. I > have checked the cinema display on my G5 and it works fine. I can also > run a high end Dell monitor with a VGA connection on the G4 attached > to the VGA output of this same ATI Radeon 32mb card also with no > problems, just not the Apple cinema display attached to the ADC port. > I am not trying to run both monitors at the same time, just the cinema > display only is preferred over the Dell. Do I need to get a different > video card to run this monitor on this G4? Any help is appreciated > very much!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Prey and Hidden tracking stolen Mac computers
People who get used computer, either stolen or just bought second hand seldom wipe the HD. Usually there's applications they want to keep or they're just lazy. On Jun 1, 2:00 pm, Jonas Lopez wrote: > Prey and Hidden tracking stolen Mac computers > > What is to prevent the wipe of the hd and a new install to defeat these > needed applications? > > JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 with 1GHz ZIF upgrade worth it?
You should be able to find a 1.25 or possibly a dual 1.25 G4 MDD in the $40 - 100 area and unupgraded, it'll run circles around the most heavily upgraded G3 out there -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 with 1GHz ZIF upgrade worth it?
Sounds like you have an 867mhz Quicksilver. I doubt that an upgraded G3 would likely even equal what you have for video work. If you want more speed you have a few choices depending on budget and maybe where you live. You could get a processor upgrade for your machine. I may be mistaken but I think all the manufacturers have discontinued production so you'd have to find a used one. another option if you still need to boot OS9 is a faster G4. A dual processor MDD of 1 ghz or faster would easily outperform your G4. A quick look on my local craigs list shows one for $20. If your budget runs to a bit more Craigs list shows a number of choices between $200-300 Also Apple has some deals on their refurb list http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=OTY2ODY3Nw On Jun 7, 7:47 am, Tanner Musyj wrote: > I'm wondering if i would be worth it to replace my currrent PowerMac > G4 867Mhz with a G3 of some sort with a 1GHz processor upgrade. All I > need it for is some rough video editing mostly, so I'd add Firewire > cards. Would a 1GHz G3 outperform a 867 G4? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: opt-cmd-P-R when installing Kensington MouseWorks 3?
I think I've used every version of Mouseworks and never had to zap the PRAM. I'm using Mouseworks on several computers and it's been flawless. As Bruce said, the only problem has been with the trackball which requires the occasional takedown for cleaning -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2 versus g3 powermac bus
I'm guessing that we're talking B&W G3 not iMac. Neither has USB2 ports but you can install a USB2 card in a B&W If you went by the paper specs you'd think for speed that it'd be USB2, Firewire 400 then ATA/33 but the real world is a lot different. On a B&W G3 with a 7200 rpm drive you'll likely get around 23mb/s on the ATA/33 connector. USB2 will be substantially slower at around 18 mb/s. FW 400 would beat both of those at around 35 mb/s. That's in PPC Macs. USB is processor intensive, in Intel macs the USB2 is usually almost as fast as FW400. One time it isn't is if you're booting off a USB2 drive. Then a lot of CPU time is being used by the boot process. I haven't timed it but the couple times I tried, it seemed to take about twice as long as on FW400. Now if you're planning on buying a card then I'd go SATA. I used a SATA card for a while in a B&W G3 and it was fast. I can't give you specs on that as I never did check to see how fast it was in mb/s. Right now the card is in a MDD G4 and it's considerably faster than the G4s ATA/100 drives. Still haven't clocked it. Just a thought. hopefully you aren't still using the original 6 or 12gb hard drive. Those drives were dogs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Car computer
I'd think something like an iBook would be a better choice. Dismount the screen and attach that to the dash. Might need to make a custom cable. The car can be a warm environment so I might pull the top and put a fan over the heatsink. Either reuse the keyboard and trackpad or go USB or Bluetooth. On May 18, 4:24 pm, Alexander Gomes wrote: > Space wouldn't be a problem as I would change the case. The hard drive > wouldn't be a problem either as I can use a cf card and adapter as the > drive. I would rather have a complete system vs an ipod as I already use > that for mobile music. I could go with an oldish intel but id rather use > something I know will be reliable -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Mini: Wifi Slot?; IR Receiver?; Choice of DVDRW?; Max Memory?
What about one of those SCSI to USB adapters? I know they also made SCSI to firewire adapters though I've never owned one of those -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 1.8 Single Processor Performance
If you didn't feel much of a difference going from 500mb to 1.5gb then I suspect adding a little RAM more won't satisfy you. If you still have the original hard drive then a new large hard drive should make it feel a little faster. Otherwise nothings going to make it feel hugely faster. If the budget allows, on craigs list at least in my area dual 2.0 & 2.3 ghz G5s are available all the time at the $300 range. You might be able to score one with a vastly better video card, more RAM and a bigger HD. On May 2, 3:22 pm, heyjohnhay wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for a quick way to upgrade the performance of my stock G5 > 1.8 single processor powermac. It has 1.5GB of memory in it now, > running 10.5. It also has the original Nvidia 64MB video card. I've > tried putting in another 1GB of memory in it but no real difference, > still slow... What's your suggestion for a quick and inexpensive way > to upgrade the speed. What can I expect? I know more memory and > faster video is an easy solution but its also expensive and I don't > know how noticeable the effect will be. > > Thanks- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
I have 3 B&W G3s and neither fan ever stops spinning while they're powered up. I was under the impression that they weren't supposed to stop On Apr 24, 10:06 pm, crumvoc wrote: > This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the > fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I have reset > PRAM, NVRAM, current firmware, etc. Also reset CUDA. Any chance > that the PRAM battery might be causing this? Any other suggestions? > > Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keep the Sawtooth?
I did re-equip one school. Someone said they were short a mouse and asked if I could spare one. When I went to drop it off I found a motley collection of really old Macs. Seemed like every machine was running different software with every possible version of MacOS. I knew from a teacher at a private school that they'd just upgraded their older machines which were sitting in a store room so I went over and asked them for them. I ended up replacing all the schools computers and set them up with identical software. I ended up replacing the schools computers a couple of times as better hardware became available to me. Also quite a few computer went out to students. On Apr 21, 4:25 am, Geke wrote:. > > One good reason to "get rid of" G4s could be that they make great > computers for less well-off schools or families. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Keep the Sawtooth?
I guess I should mention that I have about 125 Apple computers. Even though I've explained that this isn't unusual, the girlfriend remains unconvinced. Anyways I'm trying not to let the cubic footage of Macs, software & peripherals increase so I'm eying different machines. On Apr 20, 6:14 am, Nestamicky wrote: > On 20/04/11 7:11 AM, Vic wrote:>> I have every model of G4 tower Yikes, > Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, > >> > Digital Audio, Quicksilver, MDD. I'm clearing out a few things and I'm > >> > trying to think of a compelling reason to not get rid of the Sawtooth > >> > and I can't think of one. Is there one? > > Because then your collection will be incomplete... > > If you have space for all the others, I think you can hold onto one > more---yes? And Vic is right... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Keep the Sawtooth?
I have every model of G4 tower Yikes, Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, Digital Audio, Quicksilver, MDD. I'm clearing out a few things and I'm trying to think of a compelling reason to not get rid of the Sawtooth and I can't think of one. Is there one? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What to lose
I have a lot of Apple IIs, IIIs and Macs and I really need to downsize. Some input into what to get rid of would help. Here’s the Macs I have one or more of Macs: 128k, 512k, 512ke, Plus, SE, SE/30, Classic, Color Classic, Mac II, IIfx, LC, IIci, Quadras 700, 800, 840AV, 900, PM6100, 6150, 8100, 6360, 6500, 7300, 8500, 9150, 9500, 8600, 9600 Beige G3 DT, MT & Server, AIO, B&W G3, Tray loading iMac, Slot loading iMac G4 Yikes, Sawtooth, Gigabit Ethernet, Cube, DA, Quicksilver, MDD Mac Portable Powerbooks: 100,140,145,145B, 160,170,180,190, 520C, 5300,Wallstreet, MacBook Pro The Apple IIs and IIIs I’m unwilling to lose though there are a lot of them. I’m thinking to get it down to one of each model except I’d like to keep the second G3 AIO, Mac Portables and the extra MDDs. Extra Cubes don’t count as they’re serving as book ends and all the Powerbooks are in my closet. The SE, Classic, Mac Plus and IIci are in the original boxes I’m thinking that if I have a 8600 & 9600 then I could dispense with the 8500, 9500 and maybe 7300 Having the Beige G3 tower, then I could dispense with the desktop. Probably no good reason to have a 6360 if I have a 6500 though there isn’t a real speed difference if it’s running a G3 card Suggestions? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bootable External
If the backup is made by cloning your hard drive then it should be bootable. Firewire is preferable to USB 2.0 as USB 2.0 is pretty slow to boot from but in a pinch it works. If your backup was done with Time Machine then it's not bootable. If you want to see if your backup is bootable, you can choose the boot drive by holding down the option key at startup. On Mar 11, 7:01 am, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: > To anyone affected in or by Japan's crisis, I want to just say I am so > sorry. > > OK, my question: with our Intel iMacs, can we use any external hard > drive as a system backup? Can you boot up on them? Do they have to be > Firewire? > > I have an iomega, and yes, it's got Firewire. I do complete backups on > it frequently but have never had to boot > from it ... > > Anne Keller Smith > Down to Earth Web Design > > Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo > 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 > > Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo > 2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6 > > G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower > 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 > > mailto:earth...@ptd.nethttp://www.downtoearthweb.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newer Technology MaxPower processor upgrade
Adobe says that you need a Mac with an intel processor to run Photoshop CS5. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Suggested upgrades for a Power Mac G4 PCI Graphics
I didn't mean that a Quicksilver was inordinately slow but right out of the box a MDD has certain advantages that you'll never get no matter how much you upgrade a Quicksilver. 167mhz bus speed, faster RAM and more RAM are just 3 of them. Start with a faster machine and if you feel like upgrading, you'll go even further. Incidentally, my MDD beats that geekbench score by almost 100 points and it's a long way from the fastest MDD out there On Dec 30, 5:00 pm, Alex Barnes wrote: > My Quicksilver gets a geekbech score of 1065, on par with the iMac G5. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Suggested upgrades for a Power Mac G4 PCI Graphics
Since the prices on MDD(Mirrored Drive Door) G4s is almost the same as a quicksilver now, I'd get a MDD. Any stock MDD is already way faster than any maxed out Yikes. If you choose the right one, the stock MDD will blow away virtually any upgraded Quicksilver -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New internal hard drive for Power Mac G4
First thing I'd do is open the computers door and see if it's really the hard drives that are making the noise and not a fan or optical drive. If it is indeed the hard drive then what your options are depends a little on finances. One good option would be to get an external firewire hard drive to back everything up on. (On a G4 a USB hard drive is very very slow, even if you have a USB 2.0 card) Someplace like OWC can sell you a replacement hard drive. I too have hade good luck with Seagates but I know people that swear by other brands. Another option is to pick up a SATA card and add a SATA drive to your machine. I did that to my G4 when it was my main machine. It was noticeably faster than my original drive and I never regretted for an instance. Wayne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will this power supply work in my G4 MDD?
Only the MDD power supplies are drop in replacements If you're looking on ebay then do a search for MDD power supply. You'll get a number of hits. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
