Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-19 Thread Kris Tilford
On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated and restarted my G5 perhaps 18-20 times before

Re: G5 RAM voltage

2010-11-19 Thread John Carmonne
On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Nov 19, 2010, at 4:24 PM, M Christol wrote: I believe I have it in right but it's not showing up. My G5 is VERY picky about how the RAM is seated. In my experience, all computers that require matched sets are difficult. I've reseated

G5 RAM in a Mac Pro

2010-11-16 Thread M Christol
Will RAM from a G5 work in a Mac Pro? I guess it's slower? thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our

Re: 2G pc3200 ram for G5 Xserve?

2010-10-20 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:54 PM, SyncroBeast wrote: Picked up an ebay G5 Xserve capable of handling 2Gbyte pc3200 RAM (DDR400), but can't find anyone listing the 2Gbyte RAM DIMMs specifically for the G5 Xserve. I do see server memory that is 2Gbyte pc3200, but never listed for the G5 Xserve

2G pc3200 ram for G5 Xserve?

2010-10-19 Thread SyncroBeast
Picked up an ebay G5 Xserve capable of handling 2Gbyte pc3200 RAM (DDR400), but can't find anyone listing the 2Gbyte RAM DIMMs specifically for the G5 Xserve. I do see server memory that is 2Gbyte pc3200, but never listed for the G5 Xserve and sales typically don't know what to say beyond glad

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
And in general, I hate virtual memory. It slows systems down horribly. I know many with inadequate RAM depend on it. But RAM is cheap and time is precious. Too precious for slow hard drive VM read writes. If you want to see your Mac behave like a Winblows machine turn the VM setting up. -- You

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
ithink we have a misunderstanding here. I increase my RAM to it's max, but i use flash disks to store info instead of using ram disks to store programs. -- It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose it. -Me Sent from my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
i completely understand what you said. I was referring to virtual RAM. i was wondering if there is a way to completely turn off virtual memory to increase system performance on a mac. RAM on the other hand, most of my computers have it to their limits. -- It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Dan
At 3:55 AM -0400 8/7/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: i completely understand what you said. I was referring to virtual RAM. i was wondering if there is a way to completely turn off virtual memory to increase system performance on a mac. RAM on the other hand, most of my computers have

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: ithink we have a misunderstanding here. I increase my RAM to it's max, but i use flash disks to store info instead of using ram disks to store programs

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Kevin Barth
Ram disks are not for storing programs . they disappear on shutdown unless set up for reboot. A lot of people use RAM drives to store executables, in fact. Yes, they disappear on shutdown unless set up for reboot. So set them up for reboot. Adding a few seconds to a reboot that I might do

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-07 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Kevin Barth godai@gmail.com wrote: Ram disks are not for storing programs . they disappear on shutdown unless set up for reboot. A lot of people use RAM drives to store executables, in fact. Yes, they disappear on shutdown unless set up for reboot

Re: Whatever happened to RAM disks?

2010-08-06 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:39 AM, admin oneluc...@mac.com wrote: Anyone still work with them? For what uses? How? Thanks. They are very much around and useful for those who know how. Do you have enough RAM ? MAX it ! Want to speed up your Photoshop or other application ? Make a RAM disk

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-06 Thread maggell42
I'm late..thank you all...I was traveling with a pretty bad internet service ... the last answer about this ECC is enough for me. Thank you again On Jul 5, 2010 3:21pm, Miguel Garcia Gell maggel...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C).

G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Miguel Garcia Gell
*I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 **CL3 **ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help* -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Of course! Try it out, since the 2 machines are similar. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help It works in my machines PM G4s and PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Miguel Garcia Gell
*I just try...minutes ago, (unplug the power and push the power for kill the static) pull it out the 4 modules of 256 and try with the 2x1 GB. The machine make 2 or 3 beeps with hard spinning fans... but that's it* On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Of

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I just try...minutes ago, (unplug the power and push the power for kill the static) pull it out the 4 modules of 256 and try with the 2x1 GB. The machine make 2 or 3 beeps with hard spinning fans... but that's it On Mon, Jul 5, 2010

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Dan
At 3:21 PM -0400 7/5/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help Then at 3:43 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Of course! Try it out, since the 2 machines are

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Eric Herbert
You stated earlier that the memory you have from your IBM is ECC. The PowerMac doesn't support ECC memory. You need plain-jane, generic unbuffered memory. The same stuff that 99% of all PeeCee's run on. On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:17 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Miguel

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave
I am trying to use a 1 GB PC3200 DDR 400 module in my MDD, installed by itself, but it keeps telling me I need to restart the machine. I see several of you have installed 1 GB modules -- I would appreciate any suggestions! Dave Bjur d...@bjurconsulting.com (208) 305-1514 On Jun 2, 12:48 pm,

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
the boot drive is in the front bay on the end of the cable. Clean the RAM and slots with contact cleaner non residue type. That's how I got my MDD working the day I got it from a gut that was going to waste can it. It's now my goto burner with 2 opticals and 4 HDDs with 2 1 GB sticks

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave Bjur
Thanks, John. Pardon my ignorance: 1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch -- is that it? 2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive? 3. Also, does it matter which RAM slot? Thanks, Again, Dave Bjur d...@bjurconsulting.com (208) 305-1514 On Jun 14, 2010

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dave Bjur wrote: Thanks, John. Pardon my ignorance: 1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch -- is that it? 2. Is the front bay the one under the optical drive? 3. Also, does it matter which RAM slot? Thanks, Again, Dave Bjur d

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
. Also, does it matter which RAM slot? Closest to the processor Thanks, Again, Dave Bjur d...@bjurconsulting.com (208) 305-1514 E Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:36 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:26 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Dave Bjur wrote: Thanks, John. Pardon my ignorance: 1. What and where is the CUDA switch? I see a PMU reset switch -- is that it? Look close to the

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-14 Thread Dave Bjur
Thanks, John, That button on my unit is labeled PMU Reset, and that did the trick! I now have a total of 2 GB: 1x1GB, 1x512MB (these recycled from the dead iMac), 2x256MB (these came with the MDD), all working wonderfully. I'm truly thankful. -- Dave On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:40 AM, JOHN

10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Scotty
I found my 10.5 install disk and I am trying to install it on my Quicksilver and running into problems. The disk starts up just fine from the desktop in 10.4, but it seems that if I try too boot from the DVD it either pops open the DVD tray and just boots from the HDD or it sits at the white

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Scotty wrote: I found my 10.5 install disk and I am trying to install it on my Quicksilver and running into problems. The disk starts up just fine from the desktop in 10.4, but it seems that if I try too boot from the DVD it either pops open the DVD tray and

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Stewart
Yeah it is a universal install disk. When I try and get it to boot with the C key I get the white screen with the grey Apple logo, but it does not seem to be doing anything. Is there some way to bring up a verbose mode that would tell me if the computer is doing anything? Furthermore if for

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: Yeah it is a universal install disk. When I try and get it to boot with the C key I get the white screen with the grey Apple logo, but it does not seem to be doing anything. Is there some way to bring up a verbose mode that would tell me

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB? Yes it will. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say they had it recognize more than the 2GB. Any discussions or spec referencing the RAM says that 512MB per slot is max. If anyone has an about this Mac image showing more than 2GB/ 512 per slot, I'd love to see it. With all the G4 MDDs out

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Jason Brown
I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure on this though. My MDD will recognize 2 1 gig modules for 2 gig, but it ignores anything after that like it doesnt exist. On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Sorry - I have these machines and never saw anyone say

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Ricardo Sevilla
WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome? On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184 pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB? Yes it

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: WEre you able to do this? What was the outcome? On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 AM, john CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I'm wondering if I install in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25, two 1 GB PC3200 DDR 184

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Richard Smallwood
go up to 2 GB RAM. Richard -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Even this is different and I suppose an improvement from what i understand. My MDDs all show 512MB in each dimm slot. Haven't tried 1GB, never heard it works. On Jun 2, 12:33 pm, Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net wrote: I think the ram limit is artificial by firmware. I am not sure

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread John Carmonne
pin sticks and two 512 will the machine report 3 GB? Yes it will. The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it, otherwise it'll fit my PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Jason Brown
It will recognize 2 of the 1 gig modules for 2 gig, once it hits its max, it stops. There has to be a hack we can do somehow some way to make it recognize the ram, its apparently a soft limit. On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Ricardo Sevilla

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Chance Reecher
I have 2 1GB sticks running fine in my MDD 1.42. I haven't tried adding anything beyond that, particularly because two of my RAM slots cause an OF error. (Which is why I have the 2 1GB sticks in the first place and not 4 512MB sticks.) On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:40 PM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
for RAM and some other stuff. It took me hours to figure out, and unfortunately I forgot to save this command in textedit. It might be somewhere on google... =( --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Try looking on google. You most likely will find how to type in the command on open firmware, but BEWARE. I had to re-install Leopard 4 times before my system could settle with this 4GB setting. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
My PM G4 Sawtooth did recognize 4GB. It's just that Leopard and the OF weren't too happy with it for a while. Kps were a bit more common than I thought they would be. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those

Re: G4 MDD RAM

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:41 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The RAM is on the way as soon as I get it I'll take a shot at it, otherwise it'll fit my PM G5. Mark said there was some type of open firmware hack to get more RAM recognized. I looked hard and couldn't find one for the MDD specifically

Re: Apple Ram/warranty question

2010-04-24 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Apple warranties do run out of your Applecare tuns out. If you need a lifetime RAM warranty, go to www.otherworldcomputing.com and buy your RAM there. Thy will replace it when it breaks, and they can automatically replace it if it came broken when shipped. Even if it's 2080, or 2977, or even

Apple Ram/warranty question

2010-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Engle
when I buy ram from most other venders, I get a lifetime warranty what about that Apple ram that I buy with my new apple, let me guess Applecare runs out, so does my warranty? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group

Re: Apple Ram/warranty question

2010-04-23 Thread iJohn
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: when I buy ram from most other venders, I get a lifetime warranty what about that Apple ram that I buy with my new apple, let me guess Applecare runs out, so does my warranty? That's what I've always assumed. When

Re: Ram Disk on G4

2010-03-09 Thread Dan
At 7:24 AM -0500 3/9/2010, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Dual 500Mhz Mac G4 with 2 GB RAM and 2 internal HDs, running OS 10.4.11 In my OS 9 days, I always used a RAM Disk. Is there any advantage in setting up a RAM Disk on my current Mac? Depends on the point of the virtual disk. If you're

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-22 Thread MaGioZal
On 2/15/10 9:28 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: That's great to know. I only have experience with the VIA Combo card that isn't backwards compatible to OS 9, and also isn't very good in OS X. I wouldn't recommend a VIA card VIA Cards are usable only if the Mac has a system equal

Mismatched RAM in a G5

2010-02-20 Thread Eric Volker
I currently have a dual 1.8GHz G5 that I'm in the repurposing. In the process, I removed 1GB (2x512) of DDR400 RAM leaving 1GB in place. I do have 2 extra 256MB sticks of RAM, but one is DDR 400 and the other DDR 333. If I drop the mismatched pair in the G5, will it automatically downclock

Re: Mismatched RAM in a G5

2010-02-20 Thread Jason Brown
On 2/20/2010 4:38 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I currently have a dual 1.8GHz G5 that I'm in the repurposing. In the process, I removed 1GB (2x512) of DDR400 RAM leaving 1GB in place. I do have 2 extra 256MB sticks of RAM, but one is DDR 400 and the other DDR 333. If I drop the mismatched pair

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Well, I think it is not *exactly* that way...;-) The most important thing to remember is that non-VIA USB 2.0 PCI cards (like the NEC I am using here) will do work on Mac OS 9, because these cards are backward-compatible. Obviously there is no

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote: On 2/9/10 7:38 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige. With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card, one for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card.

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-15 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3). Yes, and I now remember WHY that is. The Beige Macs had an earlier implementation of the

Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-15 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3). Yes, and I now remember WHY that is.

Re: RAM Upgrade for Quicksilver

2010-02-14 Thread dc
On Feb 12, 8:38 pm, Albert Carter slvrmoontiger...@gmail.com wrote: Information on RAM: Crucial RAM: 512MB 168-PIN DIMM 64Mx64 SDRA (from my understanding 64Mx64 is Low Density). This is the information on the Crucial Sticker. Information on the tag with an M with a circle going through

Re: RAM Upgrade for Quicksilver

2010-02-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 13, 2010, at 12:19 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, the M is for Micron. They are actually based here in Idaho :D (i get excited because Idaho is never mentioned.. anywhere) I bought my car from Edmark in Nampa (suburb of Boise), and drove back to Kansas. I was really surprised to see

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-12 Thread t...@io.com
On Feb 11, 7:46 am, pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com wrote: I wondered about the long two line link before I posted it but I'm not too certain about the conventions for links in plain text mailings. I thought - and we all know what thought did - a long link which makes more than one line

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-12 Thread deadwinter
On Feb 9, 4:38 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a   Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8   GB limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also   do, but normally at

RAM Upgrade for Quicksilver

2010-02-12 Thread Albert Carter
All, I have a Quicksilver it was originally a 733 Mhz one but when I bought it someone had upgraded it to 933Mhz. Its running 1.25 GB RAM. I recently got a deal on the lowendmac swap list for another 512 MB RAM. I inserted it into the 1st RAM Slot and removed the 256 MB Stick that was in it. When

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-12 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 12, 2010, at 5:11 PM, deadwinter wrote: See, there you have piqued my interest. I also have a Beige G3 and I have an OrangeMicro combo USB/FW card that I haven't installed yet. The idea of cloning my existing 4GB system drive to a higher capacity drive and putting that in a FW enclosure

Re: RAM Upgrade for Quicksilver

2010-02-12 Thread Kasey Smith
. Its running 1.25 GB RAM. I recently got a deal on the lowendmac swap list for another 512 MB RAM. I inserted it into the 1st RAM Slot and removed the 256 MB Stick that was in it. When I restarted I get 3 beeps and no video. I'm like ok this is supposed to be good RAM. I then placed it in the 3rd

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-11 Thread pdimage
review section which cover the low/high density ram problem - maybe a dozen or so Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-10 Thread Kasey Smith
Nope, its Dual Density. On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Geke wrote: The bottom line first: If a 512MB PC133 SDRAM RAM module for the G4 Digital Audio has chips on one side of the stick only, can it be low-density? Thanks in advance! Geke History of this case: My G4 DA had 3 RAM sticks: 128, 256

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-10 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 10, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Geke wrote: The bottom line first: If a 512MB PC133 SDRAM RAM module for the G4 Digital Audio has chips on one side of the stick only, can it be low-density? Thanks in advance! Geke History of this case: My G4 DA had 3 RAM sticks: 128, 256, and 512MB. I

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-10 Thread pdimage
On 10/2/10 14:21, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: The bottom line first: If a 512MB PC133 SDRAM RAM module for the G4 Digital Audio has chips on one side of the stick only, can it be low-density? Thanks in advance! Geke I don't think sosee http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Myth-Low

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-10 Thread t...@io.com
On Feb 9, 5:39 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote: You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one. The internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was intended for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE convertor but directly.

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-10 Thread t...@io.com
On Feb 9, 3:38 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige. With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card, one for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card. If you boot OS 9, the USB card MUST be an OHCI

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-10 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 09-02-2010 20:13, Gus, gusr...@comcast.net, wrote: What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? In my grandson's beige G3 DT/300 are mounted 3 256MB - PC66 3.3v, unbuffered, 8-byte, x64 non-parity 168-pin SDRAM (Low Profile) sticks. Works flawlessly! Jo Hissel

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-10 Thread Geke
Thanks a lot! That link from Pete is precious; I can mention it to the company so they can check for themselves... (Note that it runs over two lines that should be connected before pasting into the browser.) Geke -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for

Re: RAM

2010-02-10 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 08-02-2010 10:47, Stephen Conrad, khel...@gmail.com, wrote: Was looking through my collection of loose RAM Maybe some of you can help me ID one piece I cannot ID and can tell me what some others can be used in (ESP. G3-G5 machines) snip Well Stephen, determining your sticks

Re: low density RAM?

2010-02-10 Thread Jason Brown
On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Geke wrote: Thanks a lot! That link from Pete is precious; I can mention it to the company so they can check for themselves... (Note that it runs over two lines that should be connected before pasting into the browser.) Geke Yes it is. Here is a link

Re: RAM

2010-02-10 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:38 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 08-02-2010 10:47, Stephen Conrad, khel...@gmail.com, wrote: Was looking through my collection of loose RAM Maybe some of you can help me ID one piece I cannot ID and can tell me what some others can be used in (ESP. G3-G5 machines

Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gus
I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and referenced Mactracker for the specifications. It says that the max memory is 192MB (apple) and 768mb (actual). I am not sure I understand what that means. What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? On a related

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Gus wrote: What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. Low-density means chips on both sides of the module, meaning 16 chips total, 8 on each side

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Gus wrote: I was considering upgrading my beige mac memory to its max and referenced Mactracker for the specifications. It says that the max memory is 192MB (apple) and 768mb (actual). I am not sure I understand what that means. What is the maximum ram you can

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. The 233Mhz Beige G3 desktop I recently resurrected (by simply changing the PRAM battery!) has one 256, one 128 and one 32mb DIMMs since at least 2005 (when it was used for the last time). I have

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread t...@io.com
couldn't get 256 MB DIMMs to work reliably in their Beige G3s even when they had the proper two bank (low density) modules. I found that if pin 122 of the ROM DIMM is tied to Ground, then the Beige will not support more than 512 MB of RAM total.There may be some ROM modules out there where pin 122

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread t...@io.com
On Feb 9, 1:59 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote: BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the machine. The built-in IDE on the Beige is only 16 MB/s. It just begs for an

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gus
It is a tad slow.. But what I am using it for it not that processor intensive, however it does require the memory to run properly. Seems it spends most of its time scrolling out to virtual, finally starts thrashing, and then requires a hard reset. :( So tiger with 192 mb doesn't get it done..

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gus
Thanks for tips!! On Feb 9, 1:26 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 9, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Gus wrote: What is the maximum ram you can put into the beige G3 Desktop? 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66,   PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. Low-density means

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/9/10 12:23 PM, t...@io.com wrote: On Feb 9, 1:59 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezog...@gmx.net wrote: BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the machine. The built-in IDE on the Beige is

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Da'Birdman
Gus, When you're shopping for RAM for a Desktop Beige, make sure to buy low profile RAM, as the full size sticks will not allow the top portion of the casing to snap into place. I own one of these, too, and it's been a problem in the past. OWC has these for less than $16 (no affiliation

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Feb 9, 2010, at 2:23 PM, t...@io.com wrote: The built-in IDE on the Beige is only 16 MB/s. It just begs for an ATA-133 PCI card, although cable routing is a pain. An ATA-133 card is going to be limited to ATA-66 speed because of the bus limitations of the Beige. The only advantage of

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: Gus, When you're shopping for RAM for a Desktop Beige, make sure to buy low profile RAM, as the full size sticks will not allow the top portion of the casing to snap into place. There is a semi easy fix for this. The fan shroud for the power

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
was configured with 769Mb of virtual memory on his own dedicated HD partition. No doubt when it was used with Photoshop 5 it did need a bit more of RAM! The owner had not much memories about how it was configured as the machine had been stored since July 2005 and only took from storage late last year

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8 GB limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also do, but normally at higher total cost and less usage flexibility. Now you mention

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/9/10 2:23 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: Another way to get quicker HD response is using XPF to boot from a Firewire 400 external HD. This is cheap and gets rid of both the 1st 8 GB limit and the 128 GB limit, which only the ATA-133 card would also do, but normally at higher total cost

RE: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Kasey Smith
-Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gorka L Martinez Mezo Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:59 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
I think you mean 4GB and 40GB. My G3 here also has a 40GB in it :D Yup! I was on RAM size mode while writing :-) Gorka from Spain -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Gorka L Martinez Mezo
You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one. The internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was intended for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE convertor but directly. Such drives never materialized. Thanks for the answer! It makes a lot

Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question

2010-02-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Gorka L Martinez Mezo wrote: You could if there were such a thing. I've never heard of one. The internal FW connector (on this card and on some PowerMacs) was intended for FW drives, HDs whose interface was FW, not via an IDE convertor but directly. Such

Re: RAM

2010-02-08 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 08-02-2010 10:47, Stephen Conrad, khel...@gmail.com, wrote: Was looking through my collection of loose RAM Maybe some of you can help me ID one piece I cannot ID and can tell me what some others can be used in (ESP. G3-G5 machines) snip Well Stephen, determining your sticks

Re: MDD bad RAM 3 beeps: I'm feeling even dumber than usual

2010-01-26 Thread tonycd
Update: Started to test parts, using the good machine as a test mule. First, tested the RAM sticks from the two bad MDDs (faster 2700 RAM from the 1.25 GB, slower whatever from the bad 867) in the good 867. All tested good. Then, tested the now-known-good RAM in the slots of the bad 867

Re: MDD bad RAM 3 beeps: I'm feeling even dumber than usual

2010-01-25 Thread tonycd
somehow managed to fubar both 867s? In short, what works? The other two, though, are another matter. Eventually, I punted and started swapping around both RAM cards and CPUs. I had two old and small RAM cards, four newer 2700-speed 512 RAM cards, one older/slower CPU card, and one newer

Re: MDD bad RAM 3 beeps: I'm feeling even dumber than usual

2010-01-24 Thread Bill Christensen
works? The other two, though, are another matter. Eventually, I punted and started swapping around both RAM cards and CPUs. I had two old and small RAM cards, four newer 2700-speed 512 RAM cards, one older/slower CPU card, and one newer/faster CPU card. In the course of ineptly testing

Is pc3200 interchangable with pc2700 ram

2009-12-29 Thread mark ray
I have a G4 iMac 20 1.25Ghz that the optical drive died on, while I am changing that out I would like to replace the memory as well. It currently has (in the not user friendly inner slot) a PC2700 DDR333 - 256MB (184 pin) stick in it. I have a about a half dozen PC3200 DDR400 - 1GB (184

Re: Is pc3200 interchangable with pc2700 ram

2009-12-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
a about a half dozen PC3200 DDR400 - 1GB (184 pin) sticks from two G5's. Google results say it can be done (all converbut not specifically with a Mac). Thanks. The user friendly outer slot has a PC2700 SODIMM (200 pin) stick in it. If the stick actually fits, then faster ram can be substituted

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