Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Using the (Samsung) TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L, Yes ... but not using the internal PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D. And the DVR-106D has v. 108 firmware? If not, you CAN flash this on your Mac. You can get firmware and flash tool for it here: http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=1080 Also, the Pioneer is older and has restricted media types. Here's a chart that shows EXACTLY which types of discs the DVD-106D can use, and about half the discs aren't available to the DVD-106D (the ones with the X don't work in the DVD-106D): http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/mediachart.html Kris, Just successfully flashed my PIONEER 106D on my Mac. Had to use an earlier version of DVRFlash (2.1). Expressive Terminal Output: DVRFlash v2.1 : Pioneer DVR firmware flasher by Agent Smith, LasVegas et al., July 2005 DISCLAIMER THIS PROGRAM IS PROVIDED AS IS WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE ABILITY OF THIS PROGRAM TO FLASH A PIONEER OR COMPATIBLE DVR DRIVE IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. THIS PROGRAM IS NOT ENDORSED BY PIONEER CORPORATION OR ANY COMPANY RESELLING PIONEER EQUIPMENT AS THEIR OWN BRAND IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM AND DISCHARGE BOTH THE AUTHOR AND PIONEER CORPORATION FROM ANY DAMAGE OCCURING AS THE RESULT OF ITS USE, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION: Do you understand and agree to the statement above (y/n)? y Commandline: /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/mac/DVRFlash -f PIONEER /Users/ moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/mac/R616.105 /Users/moonstoneartstudio/ Desktop/mac/R6100106.108 Drive Information: Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D Firmware Rev : 1.06 Firmware Date : 03/07/10 Manufacturer : PIONEER Drive is in normal mode. Are you sure you want to flash this drive (y/n)? y Switching drive to Kernel mode: Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106 Firmware Rev. : Firmware Date : 00/00/00 Manufacturer : PIONEER Drive is now in Kernel mode Now sending the Kernel part: Now internal Kernel reflashing. Please wait... OK. Now sending the Normal part: 0% 25% 50% 75% 100% ||||| Please hold your breath for about 30 seconds... Now internal reflashing. Please wait... OK. Updated Information: Description : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D Firmware Rev. : 1.08 Firmware Date : 03/11/25 Manufacturer : PIONEER Flashing operation successful ;) After Restarting my DA Dual 533 under Leopard 10.5.8: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D: Firmware Revision:1.08 Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive) Cache:2000 KB Reads DVD:Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write:-R, -RW, +R, +RW Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO Media:Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds Running DVRFlash 2.1, without parameters, now says it is Region Free: Device parameter was not given, detecting all DVR drives: Device : A: Vendor : PIONEER Model : DVD-RW DVR-106D Revision : 1.08 Status : RPC-1 (region free) Seems to burn and read fine. Not sure what I gained, except maybe Region Free status. Thanks Kris ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Recap ... I believe the Samsung is functioning properly, but that the Zenith set top just cannot read the DL DVDs. My ex has a more modern Magnavox DVD/VCR Player, and it read the Memorex 8x DVD+R DL created on my Samsung just fine ... said it actually seemed clearer than the original one. So its the Zenith. I can go several $40-45 routes: a. Buy a Sony Set Top (DVD only) player, that plays DL DVD+Rs. A better model is now on sale for $60 (ability to convert to HD something better sound)... b. Buy DVD2OneX, and convert my DVD files to Single Layer DVDs (starting to like that idea) http://www.dvd2one.com/?loc=about Turns out $39.99 Euro is $54 US not so sure about that option any more. So its a $55-60 fix. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: And the DVR-106D has v. 108 firmware? If not, you CAN flash this on your Mac. You can get firmware and flash tool for it here: http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=1080 Also, the Pioneer is older and has restricted media types. Here's a chart that shows EXACTLY which types of discs the DVD-106D can use, and about half the discs aren't available to the DVD-106D (the ones with the X don't work in the DVD-106D): http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/mediachart.html These charts are complex and you need to look at them carefully, especially for the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R discs. It appears the DVD-106D can only handled discs that are x2 or x4 discs, with the possible exception of being able to use the x8 DVD+R discs also. The DVD-106D is a 4x writer and thus incapable of recording any dual-layer DVDs, but it should read them. I made several attempts to upgrade one of my Pioneer 106Ds using the dvrflash ... so far no go. Beforehand, It didn't read properly anymore, so maybe its just shot. Here's the Terminal output: Last login: Thu Feb 18 16:52:00 on ttys000 Acoustic-Piano-Mac:~ moonstoneartstudio$ /Users/moonstoneartstudio/ Desktop/DVRFlash/dvrflash -f PIONEER /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/ DVRFlash/R616.105 /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/DVRFlash/ R6100106.108 -bash: /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/DVRFlash/dvrflash: Permission denied Acoustic-Piano-Mac:~ moonstoneartstudio$ Some how I'm not getting through ... is there some way to clear the way using my Admin Password? (if that's the problem). Recap ... I believe the Samsung is functioning properly, but that the Zenith set top just cannot read the DL DVDs. I can go several $40-45 routes: a. Buy a Sony Set Top (DVD only) player, that plays DL DVD+Rs. b. Buy DVD2OneX, and convert my DVD files to Single Layer DVDs (starting to like that idea) http://www.dvd2one.com/?loc=about c. Buy a Pioneer DL DVR-118D, and replace the failed DVR-106D ... still doesn't solve the Playback issue, unless I connect one of my Macs up to he TV (then I could playback from the harddrive, but wouldn't have any remote control over the playback). Perhaps I've gotten off topic, and after hijacking this thread! ... apologies. Note: I did discover, during all this, Share Screen between my DA Dual 533 and my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz ... So if Time Machine wasn't good enough an idea for buying Leopard ... Share Screen makes up for it. ... IMHO. Very Cool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:46 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: It can mess up any where. The point here is if you can't get a good DL and you have a playable SL The most likely problem is the burner. I assume the rip is a .iso from MDRP, I moved the Samsung to my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, and found it to be sensitive to the length of my FW cable ... well, maybe. I changed from a long one (6 '), to a 1 ' one, and an overly lengthy rip (hours ...) became 21 minutes., the average for a ~ 7.5GB DVD. Then, after a few rips, it couldn't read a next disk's IFO, but moving the disk to my internal DVD RW, that reader could. Turning the Samsung off for awhile, and back on, and its working again. Feels like a firmware and / or hardware issue with the Samsung. Currently awaiting OWC's back to business day response. Having a clean DVD to rip from is also an important factor. OWC has refused my request to replace the drive. I bought it in August 2009, so I guess they're in the right. Any hints on upgrading the firmware? http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 I will most likely need to resuscitate a Compaq Presario running Windoze 95 ... and install the drive there? run the file from the referenced site? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:46 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: It can mess up any where. The point here is if you can't get a good DL and you have a playable SL The most likely problem is the burner. I assume the rip is a .iso from MDRP, I moved the Samsung to my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, and found it to be sensitive to the length of my FW cable ... well, maybe. I changed from a long one (6 '), to a 1 ' one, and an overly lengthy rip (hours ...) became 21 minutes., the average for a ~ 7.5GB DVD. Then, after a few rips, it couldn't read a next disk's IFO, but moving the disk to my internal DVD RW, that reader could. Turning the Samsung off for awhile, and back on, and its working again. Feels like a firmware and / or hardware issue with the Samsung. Currently awaiting OWC's back to business day response. Having a clean DVD to rip from is also an important factor. OWC has refused my request to replace the drive. I bought it in August 2009, so I guess they're in the right. Any hints on upgrading the firmware? http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 I will most likely need to resuscitate a Compaq Presario running Windoze 95 ... and install the drive there? run the file from the referenced site? Well if you have to keep it I would use it for playback and ripping, and buy a Pioneer 118L for the heavy lifting there're not too expensive when you consider all the headaches so far. $28.00 to $34.00. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Any hints on upgrading the firmware? http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 I will most likely need to resuscitate a Compaq Presario running Windoze 95 ... and install the drive there? run the file from the referenced site? Easily revived my Compaq Presario (almost too easy ...) Should I go on and try to update the firmware? (see link above). Kris (originally suggesting it) ... any comments? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Any hints on upgrading the firmware? http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx? DriveId=1627 I will most likely need to resuscitate a Compaq Presario running Windoze 95 ... and install the drive there? run the file from the referenced site? Easily revived my Compaq Presario (almost too easy ...) Should I go on and try to update the firmware? (see link above). Kris (originally suggesting it) ... any comments? You got nothin' to lose:-) JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA carmo...@aol,com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:02 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: You got nothin' to lose:-) Except maybe rendering it useless? or am I thinking too much? I'm now trying to copy the 2 exe files from a CD to my Compaq's harddrive ... lol why is this so hard? I keep getting alias-es ... or shortcuts oh well ... such is a PC ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:02 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: You got nothin' to lose:-) Except maybe rendering it useless? or am I thinking too much? Maybe after you do the firmware update it will magically work on the Mac? I'm now trying to copy the 2 exe files from a CD to my Compaq's harddrive ... lol why is this so hard? I keep getting alias-es ... or shortcuts oh well ... such is a PC ... John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:02 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: You got nothin' to lose:-) Except maybe rendering it useless? or am I thinking too much? I'm now trying to copy the 2 exe files from a CD to my Compaq's harddrive ... lol why is this so hard? I keep getting alias-es ... or shortcuts oh well ... such is a PC ... OS9 does this with USB drives, not sure about CDs thoguh. Try dragging them with your right mouse button and clicking copy here -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:25 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:02 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: You got nothin' to lose:-) Except maybe rendering it useless? or am I thinking too much? Maybe after you do the firmware update it will magically work on the Mac? I'm now trying to copy the 2 exe files from a CD to my Compaq's harddrive ... lol why is this so hard? I keep getting alias-es ... or shortcuts oh well ... such is a PC ... Mission accomplishes ... now at SB03. Oh ... I had to Copy and Paste to get the exe files off the CD to my PC harddrive ... Windoze 95 ... Now will test to see if anything is different on the Samsung ... OWC guy looked up my Zenith XBV342 Player, and noticed, also, somewhere it said plays Standard DVDs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Mission accomplished ... now at SB03 Great! While you've got the PC fired up, you should check the firmware of any other optical players or other peripherals you own because there are almost no firmware utilities that work with Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Mission accomplished ... now at SB03 Great! While you've got the PC fired up, you should check the firmware of any other optical players or other peripherals you own because there are almost no firmware utilities that work with Mac. Hmmm No. The PCs hard drive is hanging out the side, and I had to disconnect the internal CDR and hang the other tested CDDVD drive out the side as well. That's all for tonight. Luck might be ending on these things ... A new DVD made with toast under the firmware revised Samsung, still did not play on my Zenith Set Top. I'm guessing its the set top. Thanks All for going through this with me ... will report back if something else comes up ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Mission accomplished ... now at SB03 Great! While you've got the PC fired up, you should check the firmware of any other optical players or other peripherals you own because there are almost no firmware utilities that work with Mac. Hmmm No. The PCs hard drive is hanging out the side, and I had to disconnect the internal CDR and hang the other tested CDDVD drive out the side as well. That's all for tonight. Luck might be ending on these things ... A new DVD made with toast under the firmware revised Samsung, still did not play on my Zenith Set Top. I'm guessing its the set top. Thanks All for going through this with me ... will report back if something else comes up ... Does a DVD DL created on the Samsung play on the Mac using the Samsung as a reader? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 12:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Does a DVD DL created on the Samsung play on the Mac using the Samsung as a reader? Using the (Samsung) TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L, Yes ... but not using the internal PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Using the (Samsung) TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L, Yes ... but not using the internal PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D. And the DVR-106D has v. 108 firmware? If not, you CAN flash this on your Mac. You can get firmware and flash tool for it here: http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=1080 Also, the Pioneer is older and has restricted media types. Here's a chart that shows EXACTLY which types of discs the DVD-106D can use, and about half the discs aren't available to the DVD-106D (the ones with the X don't work in the DVD-106D): http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/mediachart.html These charts are complex and you need to look at them carefully, especially for the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R discs. It appears the DVD-106D can only handled discs that are x2 or x4 discs, with the possible exception of being able to use the x8 DVD+R discs also. The DVD-106D is a 4x writer and thus incapable of recording any dual-layer DVDs, but it should read them. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -Original Message- From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 8:24 am Subject: Re: DL DVD burning On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:16 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Bill try one more thing, Make a DVD of that .iso on a 4.7 GB single layer and see if it plays on the set top Using a smaller * ** ** DVD, I tried MDR, but got a bad iso file (wouldn't play properly from my HD). I admit I lightly cleaned the DVD, but then successfully used MTR. Toast 6.1.1 burned it well to a single layer DVD on the Samsung. On my Dual 1GHz QS 2002, MTR 2.6.6 works well. Looking forward to MTR 4, if such a thing exists now. Tried to Register on their new site, but haven't heard back yet: Board URL: http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr Haven't given them but 1/2 business day ... and here, its President's Day ... Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:21 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? I haven't actually played it in its entirety ... did skip around the dvd's menu and it went around as expected. Maybe play the last item in the menu, and see what happens? Would that answer your question? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
In a message dated 2/15/10 9:29:49 AM, billycarm...@verizon.net writes: On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:21 PM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: Does the single layer play all the way on your set top? I haven't actually played it in its entirety ... did skip around the dvd's menu and it went around as expected. Maybe play the last item in the menu, and see what happens? Would that answer your question? It can mess up any where. The point here is if you can't get a good DL and you have a playable SL The most likely problem is the burner. I assume the rip is a .iso from MDRP, John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Firmware Revision: SB01 Current firmware is SB03 released Jan.14, 2010 Your firmware is a year older. When firmware updates are being issued, these normally address real problems, so I'd strongly suggest you find a way to update the firmware since you're two updates behind. I've been given bad burners that literally couldn't burn ANY disc that miraculously became perfect after a firmware update. Here's a link: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 Looks like it needs to be installed in a Windows PC ... Maybe OWC will take it back on Monday for the Pioneer ... You'll have no problem with OWC exchanging the drive for a Pioneer, You're not the only one with a problem on the Samsung drive. John ... Thanks for the MDR app Demo. It seemed to work well on one of my DVDs (much faster than MTR 2.6.6), but I decided to wait on making any more Toast 6.1.1 coasters ... I'm guessing the Samsung being behind in Firmware updates is the problem, and my only Windoze PC (a Compaq Presario) has been gutted, so it cannot come alive without extended effort (except maybe on a Friday The 13th). I'm also investigating MacTheRipper 4 via: http://www.ripdifferent.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26t=11686 having been a fan of MTR 2.6.6 ... I might try just dragging the VIDEO_TS folder to Toast in lieu of the whole directory paths NAME AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS ... maybe that's confusing Toast DL output (probably not)? Or did you suggest making an .iso file, and burning a DL with Disk Utility? I seemed to remember doing things that way on a single layer DVD awhile ago ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
The MDRP makes an .iso file. Drag that to toast in copy image format to burn the DVD don't let it verify. use no compression. Disk utility is good for data copies but I had trouble with DVD movies. If after that the DVD glitches in the set top get the Pioneer. I tried all their firmware stuff to no avail. I think Samsung is more for the WindBloze folks. Do you have any rips left on your MDRP demo?? Just tried making a .cdr file, renamed it .iso, and burned it with Disk Utility ... another Zenith set top Coaster (resulting DVD works using DVD Player from the Samsung). 4 rips left on MDRP ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: The MDRP makes an .iso file. Drag that to toast in copy image format to burn the DVD don't let it verify. use no compression. Disk utility is good for data copies but I had trouble with DVD movies. If after that the DVD glitches in the set top get the Pioneer. I tried all their firmware stuff to no avail. I think Samsung is more for the WindBloze folks. Do you have any rips left on your MDRP demo?? Just tried making a .cdr file, renamed it .iso, and burned it with Disk Utility ... another Zenith set top Coaster (resulting DVD works using DVD Player from the Samsung). 4 rips left on MDRP ... Make an .iso with MDRP drag to toast and burn with Toast (no verify and no compression) see if it plays on the Mac first then the set top, tell me what happened. BTW what movie are you ripping? Are you doing all the ripping and burning in the Samsung ? What Mac model and system are you using? Coasters are proof of effort:-) John Carmonne wtmm Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:30 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: The MDRP makes an .iso file. Drag that to toast in copy image format to burn the DVD don't let it verify. use no compression. Disk utility is good for data copies but I had trouble with DVD movies. If after that the DVD glitches in the set top get the Pioneer. I tried all their firmware stuff to no avail. I think Samsung is more for the WindBloze folks. Do you have any rips left on your MDRP demo?? Just tried making a .cdr file, renamed it .iso, and burned it with Disk Utility ... another Zenith set top Coaster (resulting DVD works using DVD Player from the Samsung). 4 rips left on MDRP ... Make an .iso with MDRP drag to toast and burn with Toast (no verify and no compression) see if it plays on the Mac first then the set top, tell me what happened. BTW what movie are you ripping? Are you doing all the ripping and burning in the Samsung ? What Mac model and system are you using? MDRP made a file with suffix .ripping I changed it to .iso, and dragged that file to Toast. It created another coaster, mainly because Toast added directory files and burned it as a Finder type file ... not as a video. Really don't feel like wasting another DL DVD ,,, but I guess I could double click the iso file, creating the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in Disk Image, and burning them. Should I drag the Disk Image file to Toast, or just the VIDEO_TS folder? or the AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS? Is that what you meant by no compression? double click the iso file and proceed with the Disk Image contents? I'm ripping and burning a professional adult video. I successfully used DVD2OneX on a previously MTR ripped copy before, and burned a successful single layer DVD ... on a Pioneer DVR-106D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: MDRP made a file with suffix .ripping I changed it to .iso, and dragged that file to Toast. It created another coaster, mainly because Toast added directory files and burned it as a Finder type file ... not as a video. Just changing the suffix does not change the file type. This applies to box .ripping and .cdr files. You need to save these as or convert them to .isos. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:30 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: The MDRP makes an .iso file. Drag that to toast in copy image format to burn the DVD don't let it verify. use no compression. Disk utility is good for data copies but I had trouble with DVD movies. If after that the DVD glitches in the set top get the Pioneer. I tried all their firmware stuff to no avail. I think Samsung is more for the WindBloze folks. Do you have any rips left on your MDRP demo?? Just tried making a .cdr file, renamed it .iso, and burned it with Disk Utility ... another Zenith set top Coaster (resulting DVD works using DVD Player from the Samsung). 4 rips left on MDRP ... Make an .iso with MDRP drag to toast and burn with Toast (no verify and no compression) see if it plays on the Mac first then the set top, tell me what happened. BTW what movie are you ripping? Are you doing all the ripping and burning in the Samsung ? What Mac model and system are you using? MDRP made a file with suffix .ripping The file you have is an incomplete rip that,s why it says .roping it's not done I changed it to .iso, and dragged that file to Toast. It created another coaster, mainly because Toast added directory files and burned it as a Finder type file ... not as a video. Really don't feel like wasting another DL DVD ,,, but I guess I could double click the iso file, creating the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in Disk Image, and burning them. Should I drag the Disk Image file to Toast, or just the VIDEO_TS folder? or the AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS? Is that what you meant by no compression? double click the iso file and proceed with the Disk Image contents? I'm ripping and burning a professional adult video. I successfully used DVD2OneX on a previously MTR ripped copy before, and burned a successful single layer DVD ... on a Pioneer DVR-106D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:30 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: The MDRP makes an .iso file. Drag that to toast in copy image format to burn the DVD don't let it verify. use no compression. Disk utility is good for data copies but I had trouble with DVD movies. If after that the DVD glitches in the set top get the Pioneer. I tried all their firmware stuff to no avail. I think Samsung is more for the WindBloze folks. Do you have any rips left on your MDRP demo?? Just tried making a .cdr file, renamed it .iso, and burned it with Disk Utility ... another Zenith set top Coaster (resulting DVD works using DVD Player from the Samsung). 4 rips left on MDRP ... Make an .iso with MDRP drag to toast and burn with Toast (no verify and no compression) see if it plays on the Mac first then the set top, tell me what happened. BTW what movie are you ripping? Are you doing all the ripping and burning in the Samsung ? What Mac model and system are you using? MDRP made a file with suffix .ripping I changed it to .iso, and dragged that file to Toast. It created another coaster, mainly because Toast added directory files and burned it as a Finder type file ... not as a video. Really don't feel like wasting another DL DVD ,,, but I guess I could double click the iso file, creating the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in Disk Image, and burning them. Should I drag the Disk Image file to Toast, or just the VIDEO_TS folder? or the AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS? Is that what you meant by no compression? double click the iso file and proceed with the Disk Image contents? I'm ripping and burning a professional adult video. I successfully used DVD2OneX on a previously MTR ripped copy before, and burned a successful single layer DVD ... on a Pioneer DVR-106D. What Mac are you using? how much available room is on the HDD volume you are booted on? You did not get a full rip until the file name says .iso with out you trying tot change it John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
What Mac are you using? how much available room is on the HDD volume you are booted on? You did not get a full rip until the file name says .iso with out you trying tot change it John Carmonne I'm on a DA Dual 533 under OS X 10.5.8, 1.5GB SDRAM. My boot volume only had 8.2GB free space. I'll fix that, then rerun MDR ... that's why it didn't finish, and it retained .ripping as the suffix (no error message). Also ... I'll not use the Toast window Video Advanced DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS, as I usually do when burning a NAME AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS folder. Instead, I'll use Copy Advanced Image File. Is that correct? I could also use Disk Utility to convert one of my other successful rips, as well, to an .iso file. Are we using iso since the Samsung is more a PC oriented burner? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
At 11:22 AM -0500 2/14/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: Really don't feel like wasting another DL DVD ,,, but I guess I could double click the iso file, creating the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in Disk Image, and burning them. Should I drag the Disk Image file to Toast, or just the VIDEO_TS folder? or the AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS? Before you burn... Mount the disk image then open the VIDEO_TS folder with VLC. If VLC cannot play it, then nothing else will. I'm ripping and burning a professional adult video. s. We're never supposed to admit that! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:22 AM -0500 2/14/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: Really don't feel like wasting another DL DVD ,,, but I guess I could double click the iso file, creating the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS in Disk Image, and burning them. Should I drag the Disk Image file to Toast, or just the VIDEO_TS folder? or the AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS? Before you burn... Mount the disk image then open the VIDEO_TS folder with VLC. If VLC cannot play it, then nothing else will. All the files I'm coming up with (no pun intended) are play-able ... from the hard drive ... from the Samsung burner ... just not from the burned DL disk on my Zenith set top. Sometimes its because I burned the iso file with the wrong Toast window ... I'm re-ripping to an iso file, and will try to burn it correctly this time using the Copy Advanced image file window or do I need to double click it, and drag the VIDEO_TS file to the Video Advanced DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS? or wouldn't either work if the burner was Firmware Mac Correct? I'm ripping and burning a *** ** . s. We're never supposed to admit that! (this space intentionally left blank) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
At 1:39 PM -0500 2/14/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: All the files I'm coming up with (no pun intended) are play-able ... from the hard drive ... from the Samsung burner ... just not from the burned DL disk on my Zenith set top. Sometimes its because I burned the iso file with the wrong Toast window If you have an ISO that contains a valid DVD-Video, then try burning it with Disk Utility. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389 ... I'm re-ripping to an iso file, and will try to burn it correctly this time using the Copy Advanced image file window or do I need to double click it, and drag the VIDEO_TS file to the Video Advanced DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS? or wouldn't either work if the burner was Firmware Mac Correct? A VIDEO_TS folder contains a segmented MPEG2 video. If it's already in an ISO (or dmg) then just use it as-is... do not make Toast re-process it unless you need to recompress it (for size). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:39 PM -0500 2/14/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: All the files I'm coming up with (no pun intended) are play-able ... from the hard drive ... from the Samsung burner ... just not from the burned DL disk on my Zenith set top. Sometimes its because I burned the iso file with the wrong Toast window If you have an ISO that contains a valid DVD-Video, then try burning it with Disk Utility. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389 ... I'm re-ripping to an iso file, and will try to burn it correctly this time using the Copy Advanced image file window or do I need to double click it, and drag the VIDEO_TS file to the Video Advanced DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS? or wouldn't either work if the burner was Firmware Mac Correct? A VIDEO_TS folder contains a segmented MPEG2 video. If it's already in an ISO (or dmg) then just use it as-is... do not make Toast re-process it unless you need to recompress it (for size). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Scrap the Samsung John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:33 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 14, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:39 PM -0500 2/14/2010, Bill Connelly wrote: All the files I'm coming up with (no pun intended) are play- able ... from the hard drive ... from the Samsung burner ... just not from the burned DL disk on my Zenith set top. Sometimes its because I burned the iso file with the wrong Toast window If you have an ISO that contains a valid DVD-Video, then try burning it with Disk Utility. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060619181010389 I did this after creating a valid iso file using MDR, and I get same results: looks good on the Mac, but doesn't play back on my Zenith set top ... so its either the Zenith or its how the Samsung with outdated firmware is writing the video file. Scrap the Samsung Will see what OWC says tomorrow. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Comments? Just FYI I had to recently return two Samsung drives to OWC for exchange to Pioneer 118L. The Samsung failed too many times to burn DVDs DL also the Lightscribe on this drive is miserable compared to the HP. Also I have found little or no quality difference in media brands. I think it's in the rippers and burning procedures. Guess I'd better go on and buy some ... in case I have to return the drive ... may be already too late. Well I bought these DVD+R DL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260450340700ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_743wt_941 Memorex DVD+R DL 8x (white label), and they don't work on my Zenith DVD Player. Burns fine on my Samsung Writemaster, Plays back fine, but results in a read error on the Zenith and doesn't load. Guess my player doesn't do DL DVDs? What's the comparison to commercial brand DVDs that are larger than the 4.7GB of the single layered DVDs? The Zenith plays commercial ones fine, as well as the single layer DVDs that I make. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Burns fine on my Samsung Writemaster, Plays back fine, but results in a read error on the Zenith and doesn't load. Have you checked the firmware versions for each DVD unit? Often firmware updates will provide support for newer media. You'd likely need a Windows PC to update the firmware of these units. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Comments? Just FYI I had to recently return two Samsung drives to OWC for exchange to Pioneer 118L. The Samsung failed too many times to burn DVDs DL also the Lightscribe on this drive is miserable compared to the HP. Also I have found little or no quality difference in media brands. I think it's in the rippers and burning procedures. Guess I'd better go on and buy some ... in case I have to return the drive ... may be already too late. Well I bought these DVD+R DL: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260450340700ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_743wt_941 Memorex DVD+R DL 8x (white label), and they don't work on my Zenith DVD Player. Burns fine on my Samsung Writemaster, Plays back fine, but results in a read error on the Zenith and doesn't load. Guess my player doesn't do DL DVDs? What's the comparison to commercial brand DVDs that are larger than the 4.7GB of the single layered DVDs? The Zenith plays commercial ones fine, as well as the single layer DVDs that I make. It's not the set top, What ripper are you using? Are you burning with Toast? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:18 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Burns fine on my Samsung Writemaster, Plays back fine, but results in a read error on the Zenith and doesn't load. Have you checked the firmware versions for each DVD unit? Often firmware updates will provide support for newer media. You'd likely need a Windows PC to update the firmware of these units. Exchange the Samsung for Pioneer 118L. Been there done that. Also MTR sucks. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On 2/4/10 3:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: El cheapo players are often more forgiving of media variability than the top units. I can help confirm this. I have several DVD players and do burn dvds. I find the the cheap one, that plays DVDs and mp3s, will play any burn dvd I throw at it. The more expensive sets would skip, stutter, etc. I thought it was just my experience. Now I know I'm not alone on this. I was about to dump the cheap one...brand virtually unknown...until I noticed this. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 5:59 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 2/4/10 3:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: El cheapo players are often more forgiving of media variability than the top units. I can help confirm this. I have several DVD players and do burn dvds. I find the the cheap one, that plays DVDs and mp3s, will play any burn dvd I throw at it. The more expensive sets would skip, stutter, etc. I thought it was just my experience. Now I know I'm not alone on this. I was about to dump the cheap one...brand virtually unknown...until I noticed this. Dual layer DVD burning is not as easy as Single Layer, music and data on DL is pretty easy, but DL movies is another story. The rippers are touchy and burners are some kinda Voddo Magic. I burn a lot o9f movies full pop full features, not iTunes movies. Most burner players internal and external will play back on the Mac ok, the problem in playing on the set top players. The commercial DVDs are pressed and the kind we make are burned. The colored dye is what separates the layers and burning past the layers is tricky the way your burn program handles this is why some times there's a glitch on the set tops, many other factors too. I found that Mac DVD Ripper Pro and Toast Titanium with a Pioneer 118L is the best for me, I've tried all the others. The Samsung would play OK on the Mac but not on the TV so bye bye Samsung I give DVDs to some friends and a glitchy one draws insults. :-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:32 AM, John Carmonne wrote: It's not the set top, What ripper are you using? Are you burning with Toast? Ripper is OWCs Samsung Writemaster: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Samsung/SHS222NBLS/ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Firmware Revision:SB01 Interconnect: FireWire Burn Support: Yes (Generic Drive Support) Profile Path: None Cache:2048 KB Reads DVD:Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write:-R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, -RW DL, +R, +R DL, +RW Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO Burning with Toast 6.1.1. Tried burning at 4x in lieu of 8x. Media is Memorex 8x DVD+R DL with white label on spindle, and medium dark purple write side. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:32 AM, John Carmonne wrote: It's not the set top, What ripper are you using? Are you burning with Toast? Ripper is OWCs Samsung Writemaster: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Samsung/SHS222NBLS/ TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Firmware Revision: SB01 Interconnect:FireWire Burn Support:Yes (Generic Drive Support) Profile Path:None Cache: 2048 KB Reads DVD: Yes CD-Write:-R, -RW DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, -RW DL, +R, +R DL, +RW Write Strategies:CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO Burning with Toast 6.1.1. Tried burning at 4x in lieu of 8x. Media is Memorex 8x DVD+R DL with white label on spindle, and medium dark purple write side. Are you burning an image with Toast? By Ripper I mean what extraction application program are you using? Are you creating .iso images? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Are you burning an image with Toast? By Ripper I mean what extraction application program are you using? Are you creating .iso images? I believe I used MacTheRipper, resulting in the VIDEO_NAME AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS folder hierarchy. I dragged VIDEO_NAME to the Toast 6.1.1 window Video Advanced DVD- Video from VIDEO_TS. Maybe I should have just dragged the VIDEO_TS folder name and not the VIDEO_NAME? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Are you burning an image with Toast? By Ripper I mean what extraction application program are you using? Are you creating .iso images? I believe I used MacTheRipper, resulting in the VIDEO_NAME AUDIO_TS + VIDEO_TS folder hierarchy. I dragged VIDEO_NAME to the Toast 6.1.1 window Video Advanced DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS. Maybe I should have just dragged the VIDEO_TS folder name and not the VIDEO_NAME? MTR sucks iit's too old, no updates for a long time. I say you need Mac DVD Ripper Pro $10.00 I've used all the ones out there and this is the one that works. Rip .iso image and Toast. If you still have a DVD that will play on the Mac but not on the set top dump the Samsung for a Pioneer. BTW Do not allow verify on DVD movies. It can write a bad block at the very end and create yet another coaster.:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
I had a lot of problems like that when I first started out. What finally cured it was taking the TS_VIDEO folder out of the disk image and leaving it in a folder on the disk drive. Ditching toast for Dragon Burn NTI and Writing at the lowest speed the software would let me. Also, seemed when I put those paper labels on the disk it wouldn't last as long. Call it voodoo, cause it make no sense how a paper label could make any difference?? Well, I have had good burns since I started doing it that way and I just use those memorex disc you get at the walmart. It would also be a good idea to make sure you have enough free space on your startup drive, or what ever drive your burner uses for cache memory. Good Luck Gus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Firmware Revision: SB01 Current firmware is SB03 released Jan.14, 2010 Your firmware is a year older. When firmware updates are being issued, these normally address real problems, so I'd strongly suggest you find a way to update the firmware since you're two updates behind. I've been given bad burners that literally couldn't burn ANY disc that miraculously became perfect after a firmware update. Here's a link: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 Looks like it needs to be installed in a Windows PC ... Maybe OWC will take it back on Monday for the Pioneer ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Firmware Revision: SB01 Current firmware is SB03 released Jan.14, 2010 Your firmware is a year older. When firmware updates are being issued, these normally address real problems, so I'd strongly suggest you find a way to update the firmware since you're two updates behind. I've been given bad burners that literally couldn't burn ANY disc that miraculously became perfect after a firmware update. Here's a link: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Firmware/SingleModel.aspx?DriveId=1627 Looks like it needs to be installed in a Windows PC ... Maybe OWC will take it back on Monday for the Pioneer ... You'll have no problem with OWC exchanging the drive for a Pioneer, You're not the only one with a problem on the Samsung drive. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On 04/02/2010, at 5:58 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I'm having trouble getting consistent DL DVD burns. It seems that I get a good disk and when played on a set top they sometimes break up and it's annoying. I have good equipment but I think maybe the media is crap. Like 1 out of three is junk, this gets costly and embarrassing when you give a friend a disk and they tell you it screwed up some where during play. I even let the disk verify but that means nothing. CDs are not a problem and most single layers are usually ok. I have some that play right one or three times and then crap out. I have three different rippers I use Toast 8 and all my drives are Pioneer 118L. Does anyone else have this problem? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA G'day John. Personally I use ink jet printable Verbatim disks, (CD-R, DVD-R, DL-DVD), and very, very rarely get a burn that doesn't verify correctly, and the last one I had that didn't verify was because it had a fingerprint (mine) on it. Stick on labels should be avoided as well, especially in iMacs where the drives run hot, and labels might come unstuck. I've tried TDK and they're junk. What brand are you using? Regards Santa -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: On 04/02/2010, at 5:58 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I'm having trouble getting consistent DL DVD burns. It seems that I get a good disk and when played on a set top they sometimes break up and it's annoying. I have good equipment but I think maybe the media is crap. Like 1 out of three is junk, this gets costly and embarrassing when you give a friend a disk and they tell you it screwed up some where during play. I even let the disk verify but that means nothing. CDs are not a problem and most single layers are usually ok. I have some that play right one or three times and then crap out. I have three different rippers I use Toast 8 and all my drives are Pioneer 118L. Does anyone else have this problem? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA G'day John. Personally I use ink jet printable Verbatim disks, (CD-R, DVD-R, DL-DVD), and very, very rarely get a burn that doesn't verify correctly, and the last one I had that didn't verify was because it had a fingerprint (mine) on it. Stick on labels should be avoided as well, especially in iMacs where the drives run hot, and labels might come unstuck. I've tried TDK and they're junk. What brand are you using? Regards Santa I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
At 5:27 AM -0800 2/4/2010, John Carmonne wrote: I'm having trouble getting consistent DL DVD burns. It seems that I get a good disk and when played on a set top they sometimes break up I really hate it when DL discs go foo. Too expensive to make coasters! I use Toast 8 and all my drives are Pioneer 118L. Does anyone else have this problem? I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. Try burning slower. Try burning with a different tool. On the encoding side, maybe you need different compression settings, to more closely match your players? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 5:27 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Frankly, I'm still experimenting myself. But so far I've found two factors that seem to make a significant difference. 1. sufficient available disc space. I now do it all from a terabyte drive so I've plenty of room 2. burn speed It's a pain and very time consuming to experiment with variable such as burn speed and compression settings. but, what else can you do? hth Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 5:27 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Frankly, I'm still experimenting myself. But so far I've found two factors that seem to make a significant difference. 1. sufficient available disc space. I now do it all from a terabyte drive so I've plenty of room 2. burn speed It's a pain and very time consuming to experiment with variable such as burn speed and compression settings. but, what else can you do? hth Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
I had bad burns (also using Toast with a Pioneer drive) until I switched to the Linkyo brand, obtainable from Amazon.com. Not one coaster since. Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 5:27 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Frankly, I'm still experimenting myself. But so far I've found two factors that seem to make a significant difference. 1. sufficient available disc space. I now do it all from a terabyte drive so I've plenty of room 2. burn speed It's a pain and very time consuming to experiment with variable such as burn speed and compression settings. but, what else can you do? hth Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
At 08:27 AM 2/4/2010, you wrote: I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA By 'machines' you mean players? If the disk verifies OK in the computer, then the issue is in the particular player or player/media combination. Try another player. El cheapo players are often more forgiving of media variability than the top units. Good luck. Pablo Roufogalis L. listas -- funny a -- p0pculttranslati0ns -- d0t -- c 0 m listas -- a rara -- p0pculttranslati0ns -- punt0 -- c 0 m -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Pablo Roufogalis L. wrote: At 08:27 AM 2/4/2010, you wrote: I get good verify action but the disk still breaks up during set top play. And I do have some Verbatim out of desperation (due to cost) and I find no difference in quality. I have a lot of burners and 4 different machine that produce the same results. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA By 'machines' you mean players? If the disk verifies OK in the computer, then the issue is in the particular player or player/media combination. Try another player. El cheapo players are often more forgiving of media variability than the top units. Good luck. I don't think the players are at fault. The machines I speak of are a PM G5, G4 MDD, G4 Cube and a MBP all are used to rip and burn disks. I would have a hard time telling my friends to buy a new player just to play my inferior DVDs when the commercial disks play without fail. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Tom wrote: I had bad burns (also using Toast with a Pioneer drive) until I switched to the Linkyo brand, obtainable from Amazon.com. Not one coaster since. Tom I don't find a DL DVD listed for this brand. Do they sell one? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Been looking at the 8x Memorex DLs on ebay. What is the original poster / others using? Here's what owc is selling: 25 Pack Ridata 8.5GB 2.4x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media W/ Jewel Case25 Pack Ritek RiData DL DVD+R (Dual Layer DVD+R, Double Layer DVD +R) Blank Media 8.5GB 2.4X on spindle moreSame Day $29.99 Brand: RitekOWC Item # RDTDRD85SP25 Memorex 8.5GB 8x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media 10 Pack SpindleMemorex 8.5GB 8x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media 10 Pack Spindle moreSame Day $25.99 2.4x versus 8x. Comments? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Been looking at the 8x Memorex DLs on ebay. What is the original poster / others using? Here's what owc is selling: 25 Pack Ridata 8.5GB 2.4x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media W/ Jewel Case25 Pack Ritek RiData DL DVD+R (Dual Layer DVD+R, Double Layer DVD+R) Blank Media 8.5GB 2.4X on spindle moreSame Day $29.99 Brand: RitekOWC Item # RDTDRD85SP25 Memorex 8.5GB 8x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media 10 Pack SpindleMemorex 8.5GB 8x DVD+R DL Dual Layer DVD Media 10 Pack Spindle moreSame Day $25.99 2.4x versus 8x. Comments? Just FYI I had to recently return two Samsung drives to OWC for exchange to Pioneer 118L. The Samsung failed too many times to burn DVDs DL also the Lightscribe on this drive is miserable compared to the HP. Also I have found little or no quality difference in media brands. I think it's in the rippers and burning procedures. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 5:43 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Comments? Just FYI I had to recently return two Samsung drives to OWC for exchange to Pioneer 118L. The Samsung failed too many times to burn DVDs DL also the Lightscribe on this drive is miserable compared to the HP. Also I have found little or no quality difference in media brands. I think it's in the rippers and burning procedures. Guess I'd better go on and buy some ... in case I have to return the drive ... may be already too late. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 5:43 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I bought a Samsung Writemaster DL DVD from OWC awhile ago and have held off buying DL DVDs. blank disks. They're expensive and the Pros and Cons abound ... Comments? Just FYI I had to recently return two Samsung drives to OWC for exchange to Pioneer 118L. The Samsung failed too many times to burn DVDs DL also the Lightscribe on this drive is miserable compared to the HP. Also I have found little or no quality difference in media brands. I think it's in the rippers and burning procedures. Guess I'd better go on and buy some ... in case I have to return the drive ... may be already too late. OWC is real good about the exchange of their products. If you burn some flicks don't take it for granted that you're out of the woods because they verified play them on a set top player all the way before you know if they're OK. A lot of times they will play on you're Mac just fine, but not on the TV player. It doesn't work when you say it plays on my Mac OK therefore it's good John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
DL DVD burning
Hi All I'm having trouble getting consistent DL DVD burns. It seems that I get a good disk and when played on a set top they sometimes break up and it's annoying. I have good equipment but I think maybe the media is crap. Like 1 out of three is junk, this gets costly and embarrassing when you give a friend a disk and they tell you it screwed up some where during play. I even let the disk verify but that means nothing. CDs are not a problem and most single layers are usually ok. I have some that play right one or three times and then crap out. I have three different rippers I use Toast 8 and all my drives are Pioneer 118L. Does anyone else have this problem? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
