Good morning all.
Just a quick message to let you know that the website listed in the
subject line,
www.blindsoftware.com,
will be closing its doors for good on Wednesday, May the 15th.
So if you haven't taken up the offer yet, why not do so now before it's
too late!
For those who have
current
titles alive due to a lack of 75 bcks to forkover.
But thou must!
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:26 PM
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Somewhat hilariously, I'd say he's made things
Yu brains r o f l
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Hi.
I have a copy of the complete package, I purchased it this morning as I for
the most part enjoyed the classic BSC games.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion
8:26 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Somewhat hilariously, I'd say he's made things difficult for himself
with that spammy style of email. If it'd been as straight forward as
folks, the company is shutting up shop because
it.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
? As an end user, I don't have
a clue.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com
implements cause grammatical and spelling errors!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:24 PM
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HI Shaun and all;
This is my point
Hi Tom.
well as you know, you and I have very different schemas for upgrades. Myself
I'd think of it the other way around, and if microsoft don't give me the
ability to play older programs like! the Bsc games, why should I upgrade my
windows anyway? But we've had that conversation previously.
hmmm well they will definately come out for all, it would be nice if
he was nice about it, but oh well they will be uploaded, I just
didn't a core dev would behave like this, everyone saw what happened
with james north, and its not like we preasured justin or anything.
Then again part of me is
Hi,
If you guys remember, I contacted the list about a month ago because
blindsoftware.com had not gotten back to me on a problem I was having. Guess
what? They still have not answered my question. So, my question is, why should
I buy this package, if I can't even get classic Pipe and Classic
Hello
Can some1 give me the link so I can check it out b4 they close.
Thank u
James
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From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you
Hi
So where do I send my $5 to. I have 2 imit I have never played 1 of
there games, but games r like books 2 me, and we need 2 hold on and keep
them safe. Not only 4 ower gen but 4 ower kids and there kids and so on and
so on. In order 2 know where u r going u have 2 know where u have
What's with all those numbers? LOL.
But thou must!
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From: James Bartlett
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:14 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi
So where do I send my $5 to. I have 2 imit I have never played 1
hI there
Yes but will u b abel 2 dropbox the setup.exe files 2 people?
James
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Hi Shaun and all,
Before we all say its OK to just pirate the games or share them around
I think we should first get Justin's input on it. Remember even though
he is basically abandoning them he still retains copyrights on all of
that software and if he wanted to he could hold people legally
Hello Dark
Yes I totally agry with u on this. Greed rules the world, but at
least there r so many on here that r not willing 2 let these games die.
Bfn
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Hi Shaun,
No, we didn't pressure Justin, but I think he made his reasons
perfectly clear on his blog. When he started Blindsoftware.com he was
young, single, and had plenty of time to write games and other
applications. Now he is married, has kids, and a full time job the BSC
Games and
Hi Dark,
Well, I have mixed feelings about what Justin is doing. While his
actions may seem greedy he never made any claims to be giving these
games away for charity. BSC Games and Blindsoftware.com have always
been commercial ventures so in that light he is doing what any
business person would
Hello there
Very well put.
Bfn
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Hi Shaun,
Well, I don't worry too much about Draconis Entertainment. Josh has
already started porting his games to iOS, Mac, and Windows using the
new Draconis Engine and I'm sure over the next couple of years or so
more games will follow. As for the rest of the companies on your list
we have to
hI
Well I kind of agry with u on this, but I think thay should tell u
something about the game like what it is about, but not tell u the releas
date. So it builds up your excitement on the game. So when it does come out
people r more exsided 2 play it. They should just say things like
.
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Conroy
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:54 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Blindsoftware.com
Hi,
If you guys remember, I contacted the list about a month ago because
blindsoftware.com had not gotten back to me on a problem I was having
Hi.
I can appreciate that Justin has other commitments, but I am a little
bothered that basically he's prophiting from these and then letting them die
out. myself, I'd be much happier if he did as Dan Zingaro did and offer a
keygen along with making the games abandonware. i'll likely buy them
Hi Shaun and all,
Justin is not on the Audyssey mailing list, and has not been for a
very very long time. So don't expect him to suddenly chime in because
this entire debate is not even being
transmitted to the people who are in a position
to do something about it. We are
Hi Tom.
You said it yourself, it's because! he's not offering support or continuance
of the software in the future that makes this different from a closing down
sale. also, I feel he is bein greedy because he is not considdering the fact
that unlike when any other shop closes, you won't be
I pretty much agree with what you and thomas said. Unfortunately it
appears that the contact form on the site is broken. It doesn't help
that Justin is a very private man (I'm not aware if he has a facebook or
twitter profile that we could reach him), which is a real shame since it
would be a
tom well if you or anyone in the list has his private email or
something and can get him to talk before blindsoftware closes then I
am all ears I am sure everyone wants to hear his side and hash out a deal.
after blindsoftware closes though the games will continue to flow no
matter what.
if he
I know we didn't but there are a few here that choose to read my
mails wrongly.
As you well know my temper has a tendency to go firy like when I
really get compationit about something.
I don't have the energy or time for a mud slinging match on here.
At 03:03 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi
I agree on both points, the clearance store thing never crossed my
mind but that could be true to the fact that a lot of stores here in
nz are always in sale and clearance mode due to the economy.
Yeah that also crossed my mind.
But on that point I think its fair to say that just about every
you are right on that I guess its the part of me that realises all
our classic games could potentually die and be gone.
I saw those games come into full products.
I saw and tested shades of doom when it was a baby.
So I am a bit closer to the older stuff.
no it won't kill us, but it will take a
agree on this, eventually if this doesn't get a final hashing with
him a thing that we will do if and when he gets on here, heck who knows.
after it closes though eventually the games will freely be avalible
no matter what.
yet again if he comes on to talk then we may yet solve this however
well if the contact emails on the blindsoftware page worked and were
not overloaded or not working I'd have sent this debate to him.
but they havn't worked since the end of last year.
At 04:38 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,
Justin is not on the Audyssey mailing list, and has not
I agree with you, its a danger, I do hope that we will be able to get
something done before closing time but I intend to do just that if
it doesn't happen, I need to backup the games to online storage for
myself as it is, I won't distribute right now but it won't be to
much to do so.
Then
blindsoftware does have a twitter and facebook and official messages
could be put through those things.
I heard that someone on here has contact with the support person of
blindsoftware privately now we could use that contact to get justin
to at least make a statement or come on here if its
Dark,
I don't think it's your place to call him greedy, and I don't think
it's his job to provide support if he doesn't want to. He created
those games, he built and wrote them and put time into them, and he
can charge anything he wants for it, for as long as he retains
ownership. He never
Hi Shaun and all,
Unfortunately, I don't have Justin's current contact info. A couple of
people have asked me for this information, and let me state for the
record I don't have anything newer than the old BSC Games addresses
which of course have been gone for at least a year or so. So I don't
L o l
sorry insent messages habits die hard
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
HI Shaun and all;
This is my point for my earlier question this
week about how much people would be willing to pay for games
HI shaun, the site contact page should be up now.
I tried contacting Justin yesterday afternoon about purchasing the company or
the rights to the software and the send failed.
I then emailed him and did get a response letting me know that he did repair
the site contact area and that he'd
Hi Dallas,
That's definitely a good point you raised. Most of this community is
very slow to change, and right now even though Windows 8 is the new OS
most people are still using XP. With Windows 8 having almost 10 years
of support left any real compatibility issues are still way down the
road
Can someone give me a list of all the games that Justin has made?
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Let's see.
Classic Pipe and Pipe 2, Blast Chamber;
Troopanum 1 and 2;
Hunter;
Word Strain Vols. 1 and 2;
Crazy Darts;
and Sonic Match. I think that's it, although maybe Bobby's Revenge and
the original Deakout fall under that umbrella as well, but don't quote
me on that.
On 4/18/13, michael
Hi Michael,
Off the top of my head Pipe Classic, Pipe Blast Chamber, Troopenum
Classic, Troopenum II, Hunter, Crazy Darts, Deekout, Bobby's Revenge,
Chopper Patrol, a word game, and maybe one or two other freebies.
Cheers!
On 4/18/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:
Can someone give me
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Oudinot
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Let's see.
Classic Pipe and Pipe 2, Blast Chamber;
Troopanum 1 and 2;
Hunter;
Word Strain Vols. 1
Here is the complete Email that I was sent. While it doesn't list
everything that was produced, I think most are mentioned. It also is what
Justin is going to be doing, what he is offering, and why:
of high intention, sincere effort,
intelligent direction, and skillful execution!
-
Somewhat hilariously, I'd say he's made things difficult for himself
with that spammy style of email. If it'd been as straight forward as
folks, the company is shutting up shop because of this that and the
other on this date in May, but you can grab our key generator for $75
and keep your existing
aah, thats good to know kara.
I wander if this could be a community thing, to long have we wandered
and wined about thing, maybe if everyone that can put in something
we could get the cash for an offer this could potentually make one of
the core companies to be owned by the gaming community
You are absolutely right scot justin is not bad but the way he worded
his posting has sertainly put him right in the mud pit.
and I think I would be one of those chucking the mud.
At 02:26 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Somewhat hilariously, I'd say he's made things difficult for himself
with that
Lol, sounds like a cool game idea!
At 01:39 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
You are absolutely right scot justin is not bad but the way he
worded his posting has sertainly put him right in the mud pit.
and I think I would be one of those chucking the mud.
At 02:26 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Somewhat
yep, thomas, by that time, aprone will have taken over the audio
gaming world, ... um, ... thats if he hasn't already. lol. and he will
likely have either driven other devs out, or forced them to up their
skills, and bring out games to compete. ahaha. that can only be a good
thing, of course.
dallas you mean that when he takes over the gaming world all others
that don't play by his rules are changed into zombies and put in his
dungeon of swamp for us to shoot.
Oh its good to work for the dark master hehehehe
At 04:10 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
yep, thomas, by that time, aprone will
Well, yeah. that to.
On 19/04/2013, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
dallas you mean that when he takes over the gaming world all others
that don't play by his rules are changed into zombies and put in his
dungeon of swamp for us to shoot.
Oh its good to work for the dark master
Hi,
I apologize if this has already been posted to the list. I just read a blog
entry on www.blindsoftware.com that they're closing on May 15, and that
they're offering a package where you can buy pretty much everything they've
produced, along with bonus items including an unlock code
I also got that Email from Justin.
But thou must!
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From: Kelly Sapergia
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:40 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi,
I apologize if this has already been posted to the list. I just read a blog
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you brought this to everyone's attention. I hadn't heard
this news before, and I seldom have reason to check the Blind Software
site unless I have reason to re download Troopenum or something.
At any rate I hate to hear this, but I'm honestly not too surprised.
Justin has
and evennow
I enjoy them.
But thou must!
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:50 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you brought this to everyone's attention. I hadn't heard
this news
It's a pity. I went there from time to time.
They had useful stuff.
Angela from Italy.
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:50 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey
games I ever played and evennow I
enjoy them.
But thou must!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you brought this to everyone's
Hi Bryan,
I know. I don't have the $75 right now or I would buy it and then
share the key generator with everyone who can't afford it so that we
could keep those games alive. Hopefully someone somewhere will share
the key gen so those of us who can't whip out the $75 in the next
month can
Agreed. That may not be exactly legal but it seems we're left with no other
choice.
But thou must!
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:18 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Bryan,
I know. I
here's what I just posted in the form of an audioboo, which I think I
should throw out here as well... I don't have the $75 myself. The BSC
games, I think, were a big part of what made audiogames are today, and
that we should preserve them for newcomers to the audiogame idea and let
those that
i did and i will
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Bryan,
I know. I don't have the $75 right now or I would
Hi.
I have a copy of the complete package, I purchased it this morning as I for
the most part enjoyed the classic BSC games.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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From: Pitermach
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey
This is sad because those are the first audio games that I bought and played
in the summer of 2008
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From: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi,
I
: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi,
I apologize if this has already been posted to the list. I just read a blog
entry on www.blindsoftware.com that they're closing on May 15, and that
they're offering a package where you can buy pretty much everything they've
produced, along
...@gmail.com wrote:
This is sad because those are the first audio games that I bought and
played in the summer of 2008
- Original Message - From: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com
: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:40 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi,
I apologize if this has already been posted to the list. I just read a
blog entry on www.blindsoftware.com that they're closing on May 15
No. You won't even be able to download them once the site closes.
But thou must!
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From: Devin Prater
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:39 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Will the games and software be abandonware
Discussion list
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Will the games and software be abandonware?
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:38 PM, blindle...@aol.com blindle...@aol.com wrote:
i am sorry to hear that ,i real liked blindsoftware especially talking
clock and day
Well, I would like to comment on this.
I feel that if you had bought the games then you should be able to get
a key gen instead of having to purchase the one for seventy five dollars.
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Well, I would like to comment on this.
I feel that if you had bought the games then you should be able to get
a key gen instead of having to purchase the one for seventy five dollars.
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If you
I might purchased the key gen.
I am only doing this so that everyone on here can get the games and be
able to play them.
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But you can't purchase just the code generator. Tat's my point.
But thou must!
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From: michael barnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:18 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
I might purchased the key gen.
I am only doing
Hi Michael,
I agree with you. I am someone who purchased some of those games once,
and I feel its a bit unfair to pay $75 for what I essentially already
paid for just to get the key gen to continue using those products.
That's kind of like double dipping as far as I am concerned. Although,
I also
Yeah, that is the only problem.
However if it is to help my fellow blind man and blind woman then I
will be happy to do my part!
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I think he'd have done better though to enable you to pick which products
you wanted so you didn't repurchase what you already have.
But thou must!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:24 PM
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I'm sad to hear this myself, i've had lots of fun playing troopanum, pipe,
hunter etc.
One thing I do wonder however is how people will get the games and unlock
codes in the future if blind software is closing down, since it'd be dire if
future people coming to audiogmaes.net couldnt' play
Hi Pitermach.
I agree completely. doing this as a community effort would be a great thing
indeed, though to be honest I'm sorry justin is trying to straight out
prophit on this and isn't doing what dan zingaro did when he quit
developement and simply releasing the stuff as abandonware for
That's the point. They won't.
But thou must!
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From: dark
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
I'm sad to hear this myself, i've had lots of fun playing troopanum, pipe,
hunter etc
Also, some of those games and programs, such as Crazy Darts, Sonic
Match, Funk in the Trunk, and Sweet midi were free to begin with. I
feel that it's a definite misnomer for them to be placed in the
bundle. Unless I misread something, I believe the blog post said
something about how those programs
I agree as well. As someone who purchased copies of a couple of those
games, I don't like the fact that you have to buy the whole package. I
wish there was a system in place where you could just check the boxes
of the games and programs you wanted, and pay accordingly.
On 4/17/13, Thomas Ward
You didn't misread.
But thou must!
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From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:05 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Also, some of those games and programs, such as Crazy Darts, Sonic
Match, Funk
Discussion list
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I agree as well. As someone who purchased copies of a couple of those
games, I don't like the fact that you have to buy the whole package. I
wish there was a system in place where you could just check the boxes
of the games
Hi.
It is very sad to see blindsoftware closing down. I used to play these
games, and it is very shocking to see it closing down. I'd like to see the
games made abandonware, like some of the abandonware game, and be able to
have a keygen to unlock them just like Self Distruct, and Tarzan
:
You didn't misread.
But thou must!
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From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:05 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Also, some of those games and programs, such as Crazy Darts, Sonic
Match, Funk
Agreed. That at least would have made sense.
But thou must!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi.
It is very sad to see blindsoftware closing down. I used
Yeah, that would be great!
As a matter of fact it would be great if you could just pick the key
gens you want.
If you have already paid for the games or other software he should give
you freely the key gen for those products.
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yeah I heard about that kelly.
its a real shame but oh well they havn't released a game in the last
year anyway.
saying that if blindgame industry is just a hobby then we could in
deed be facing something, ie if we actually got real lives, the
industry will die.
its probably not going to come
Actually it's been more like nine years since they released anything.
But thou must!
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From: shaun everiss
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
yeah I heard about that kelly.
its
yeah, I decided since I will be replacing things to kill my coppies
so I then don't decide that I would need to crack them later.
I am not sure if I will buy the program package but if I manage to
get the funding I will.
Its probably only words, this couldn't have happened at a worse time.
I
they were pretty much the first
audio games I ever played and evennow I enjoy them.
But thou must!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you brought
well yeah someone could share the games even.
after blindsoftware is well and truely closed that is.
I don't have space to host things, I may have some dropbox space but
really we will see.
At 04:18 AM 4/18/2013, you wrote:
Hi Bryan,
I know. I don't have the $75 right now or I would buy it
Hi Dark,
You know, that is one of the reasons I'm reluctant to squeeze the $75
out of my bank account to get this pack of games and software. I would
be paying that money, money I don't really have to spend right now, on
games that will never be upgraded and supported after I pay for them.
That
HI Shaun and all;
This is my point for my earlier question this week about how much people would
be willing to pay for games.
If we as a community want games we need to make it worth someone's time
developing them. We need to offer a reason for people to stay with this. People
need to survive
Hi Cara,
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment. In theory, it sounds nice,
but what I have noticed over the years, and this is coming from a
casual audio game player, not a developer, is that making audio games
is a pretty thankless job. Because of the smaller market, people tend
to want more
Well said Desiree. And I' still waiting for my lines for Airik 2.
But thou must!
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From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Cara,
I'm not sure I agree with your
, 2013 10:18 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Bryan,
I know. I don't have the $75 right now or I would buy it and then
share the key generator with everyone who can't afford it so that we
could keep those games alive. Hopefully someone somewhere
I don't have the space for a server but I may buy the games and other
things part of me thinks there should be a cast or something with
messages on how justin has changed lives industry for games, etc and
have it emailed to him or something, unfortunately due to issues some
personal ones I
Hi Desiree,
thanks for your note!
I'm actually not sure we're differing here. :)
I agree with you and that's why I said people really need to make this worth a
developer's time.
Which means; losing some of the entitlement attitude and taking more active
roles in making audio games a more
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