Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
With a subject line, you'll get more interest. Shepherds are the best beasts! On Jun 29, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Console gaming ‘almost at the end’ June 29 2011 at 11:00am REUTERS The traditional model of using a dedicated console... that you buy once and games that you buy is almost at the end of its life Come 2021, there’s “a pretty good chance that Apple will be the games industry”, ex-Sony executive Phil Harrison told Edge Magazine when asked to peer into the future. What’s more, “free-to-play is going to become the defining business model of the next 20 years or so... depending on your level of fandom you will then either spend nothing or a very large amount of money to deepen your engagement”. The traditional model of using “a dedicated console... that you buy once” and “games that you buy” is “almost at the end of its life”, he concluded. The former head of SCE Worldwide Studios was with Sony for the launch of the PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable, and now sits on the advisory board for Gaikai, a cloud-based gaming company. So for Gaikai, whose technology does all the hard work and streams games to web-enabled devices – be they tablets, laptops, or more traditional home-based hardware – it doesn’t really matter who wins the tech war as long as browsers and broadband are up to scratch. Harrison predicts that his former employers, along with Microsoft and Nintendo, will survive just fine. That’s as long as they can prove adaptable to a platform-agnostic future in which hardware isn’t as important as it once was. Gaikai is still in a testing phase, with a few demos available for those whose web connections are fast enough – the website silently measures users’ bandwidth and, if it passes muster, starts up a demo after a minute or two. One of its main competitors, OnLive, has a foot in both console and console-less camps. Subscribers can stream full retail games to their Mac or PC or, using the OnLive micro-console and controller, direct to their TV. - Sunday Tribune source URL: http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/gaming/console-gaming-almost-at-the-end-1.1090625 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
Hmmm, interesting artical, though I'm not as convinced myself, not with some of the things the Wii has done in control that are specifically tied to the hardware. however, I will say that with the far fewer playable mainstream games, i'm less interested myself in consoles than I used to be back in the days of the Snes or Mega drive when many games were playable for me, or even during the release of the gba where I could play games using a gamecube and gba player. As I've said, access wise I stil think indi developers are the best way forward. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
Think they're primarily sort of trying to say that since you can nowadays play games on so many different, more versatile platforms, nobody's going to really want to get hold of something that's limited to only being able to play games as such - or something like that. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end Hmmm, interesting artical, though I'm not as convinced myself, not with some of the things the Wii has done in control that are specifically tied to the hardware. however, I will say that with the far fewer playable mainstream games, i'm less interested myself in consoles than I used to be back in the days of the Snes or Mega drive when many games were playable for me, or even during the release of the gba where I could play games using a gamecube and gba player. As I've said, access wise I stil think indi developers are the best way forward. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
I must admit I'm less certain of that in terms of the Wii controllers, steering wheels, dedicated console servers etc, but we'll just then again being an online games company they are rather biased I think. Personally though as I said, I don't particularly see that it matters from an access perspective. Unless something unforseen happens, i stil think the future of accessible gameswill be indi developers for Pc, mac or whatever rather than the big wigs at nintendo, sony or microsoft. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
Hi Dark, Agreed. The way console gaming has evolved interms of the new Wii controllers, the XBox Connect technology, etc I think there will still be more than enough of a market for console gaming despite what the article says. For one thing, the article completely overlooked or ignored is that newer isn't necessarily cinonimous with better. There are always going to be people who are happier with their old console, their old games, and no matter how many new cool games you come up with, create some new online style of gaming that makes consoles obsolete, there will be someone who still wants to play the old games using the old hardware. I do it all the time with my Atari 2600, NES, and Super NES consoles, because I still like them despite being old and obsolete. So saying that consoles are or will be soon at the end of their life is stretching things a bit I think. For instance, let's take Windows 7 vs XP. Well, we all know Windows 7 is the latest and newest Windows operating system available. However, it still has not convinced the majority of the Windows PC market to move away from XP. Both blind and sighted users alike generally agree Windows XP is better, they don't like this or that about Windows 7, or they just don't feel the need to spend money to upgrade both hardware and software to get Windows 7. Either way Windows XP still has the market share even though it is now 10 years old. Its not likely that this will change right away. Eventually, yes, Windows 7 will replace Windows XP, but people will hold onto XP as long as they can delaying that change as long as possible. We might compare this to how many people have PS III's and how many people like myself still play using a PS II. My point being is that the article is a hypathetical look at where the gaming market will be 10 years from now. However, that can be hard to determine at the best of times. Right now the way the global economic situation is I don't see people rushing out to buy new tech for games if we don't have a serious improvement in the next couple of years. The USA is almost bankrupt as it is, and if the dollar goes belly up the entire global economey will go straight down the toilet. So now isn't a great time to look at future projectsions when everyone is watching his her wallet closely. That doesn't even consider personal preference, and probably doesn't exclude people like myself who could care less if Sony has online games or comes out with the PS IV console next as I'm currently happy with my PS II. Cheers! On 6/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, interesting artical, though I'm not as convinced myself, not with some of the things the Wii has done in control that are specifically tied to the hardware. however, I will say that with the far fewer playable mainstream games, i'm less interested myself in consoles than I used to be back in the days of the Snes or Mega drive when many games were playable for me, or even during the release of the gba where I could play games using a gamecube and gba player. As I've said, access wise I stil think indi developers are the best way forward. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
Stretching things a lot considering ps3 and Xbox sold millions of copies, not to mention Microsoft announcing their new Xbox next summer. And yeah apparently they forgot about all the other colsoles and games that are already out, consoles aren't dying out, this is just the beginning. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end Hi Dark, Agreed. The way console gaming has evolved interms of the new Wii controllers, the XBox Connect technology, etc I think there will still be more than enough of a market for console gaming despite what the article says. For one thing, the article completely overlooked or ignored is that newer isn't necessarily cinonimous with better. There are always going to be people who are happier with their old console, their old games, and no matter how many new cool games you come up with, create some new online style of gaming that makes consoles obsolete, there will be someone who still wants to play the old games using the old hardware. I do it all the time with my Atari 2600, NES, and Super NES consoles, because I still like them despite being old and obsolete. So saying that consoles are or will be soon at the end of their life is stretching things a bit I think. For instance, let's take Windows 7 vs XP. Well, we all know Windows 7 is the latest and newest Windows operating system available. However, it still has not convinced the majority of the Windows PC market to move away from XP. Both blind and sighted users alike generally agree Windows XP is better, they don't like this or that about Windows 7, or they just don't feel the need to spend money to upgrade both hardware and software to get Windows 7. Either way Windows XP still has the market share even though it is now 10 years old. Its not likely that this will change right away. Eventually, yes, Windows 7 will replace Windows XP, but people will hold onto XP as long as they can delaying that change as long as possible. We might compare this to how many people have PS III's and how many people like myself still play using a PS II. My point being is that the article is a hypathetical look at where the gaming market will be 10 years from now. However, that can be hard to determine at the best of times. Right now the way the global economic situation is I don't see people rushing out to buy new tech for games if we don't have a serious improvement in the next couple of years. The USA is almost bankrupt as it is, and if the dollar goes belly up the entire global economey will go straight down the toilet. So now isn't a great time to look at future projectsions when everyone is watching his her wallet closely. That doesn't even consider personal preference, and probably doesn't exclude people like myself who could care less if Sony has online games or comes out with the PS IV console next as I'm currently happy with my PS II. Cheers! On 6/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm, interesting artical, though I'm not as convinced myself, not with some of the things the Wii has done in control that are specifically tied to the hardware. however, I will say that with the far fewer playable mainstream games, i'm less interested myself in consoles than I used to be back in the days of the Snes or Mega drive when many games were playable for me, or even during the release of the gba where I could play games using a gamecube and gba player. As I've said, access wise I stil think indi developers are the best way forward. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
Hi Tom. well as someone who was playing double dragon advanced earlier today, the very cool gba remake of theold classic relased I think roughly six years ago, and! as someon who has games which are up to 25 years old I agree. Another thing that's totally missed, is the amount of old games stil supported by consoles. i know lots of people who have a bunch of snes, mega drive and nes titles through the Wii ware service, precisely because they want the old games but don't have the hardware anymore. This sort of thing isn't legally (or particularly efficiently), available on pc. finally, relating to your economy point, an interesting point is that new console developement seems to have just about stoppd. The nintendo 64 was released I believe in 1996, then followed the gamecube in 2001 and the wii in 2006. However, we here nothing about a new nintendo console, simply because the wii is stil going. Ditto with the playstation, and while the xbox, havng later releases than the others hasn't been out as long, I stil don't here plans for another machine. Given the combination of the economic situation, and the fact that the Wii and playstation 3 are certainly more versitile in what they can do as compared to earlier machines, eg online competition, unique control methods, net brousing, looking up information like weather etc, I doubt we'll see another console release for at least some time, - which is pretty good news for anyone who's invested in the current consoles. Myself though, I'll be sticking with my snes, mega drive and gameboy advanced aka gamecube, in fact the only way I could see myself buying a new machine is if the wii menues ecome useable so that I can play wiiware games like mega man 9 or 10, or if a decent alternative comes up similar to the gba player for psp or 3ds. As it is though, both preference and access mean I'll be sticking to my old machines for the near future. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end
yeah that would be right. Though having a game system that could be your own system that you could lock and unlock with some sort of security flash drive would rock, I guess. At 03:20 a.m. 30/06/2011, you wrote: Think they're primarily sort of trying to say that since you can nowadays play games on so many different, more versatile platforms, nobody's going to really want to get hold of something that's limited to only being able to play games as such - or something like that. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end Hmmm, interesting artical, though I'm not as convinced myself, not with some of the things the Wii has done in control that are specifically tied to the hardware. however, I will say that with the far fewer playable mainstream games, i'm less interested myself in consoles than I used to be back in the days of the Snes or Mega drive when many games were playable for me, or even during the release of the gba where I could play games using a gamecube and gba player. As I've said, access wise I stil think indi developers are the best way forward. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Yes, that's true, but I don't think the article was really looking at console sales right now. It was more of a promo or advertisement of the kinds of technology we could expect to see within the next 10 years. Like all developers they seem to believe that their new technologies will eventually whipe out the console competition and gaming will move to the internet and you can simply dialup and play using your Iphone or Android phone. Perhaps so, but I don't think that anything like that could completely whipeout the console market. New technologies usually never catch on as much as the developer expects. For example, I remember Apple being mentioned specifically in the article. Its true that Mac sales have doubled over the last three or four years, thanks to the Mac X platform, and of course their IPhone and IPod markets are doing well. However, they still have not been able to replace Microsoft as the primary operating system of choice, and Windows 7 sales are still way ahead of Mac OS 10.6 sales. On the smart phone front Google's Android phones are giving Apple's IPhone some stiff competition. My point being that if Apple or anyone else thinks they can just kick Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony out of the gaming market with a brand new internet based gaming platform they are over estimating the impact of their technology. First, PC based games have had internet or online capability for at least the last 15 years or so. Many of the new consoles have online modes which are quite popular. A new completely online gaming platform might be the way of the future, but its not exactly totally new given that internet access is becoming a part of game consoles etc already My question would be, what is so fantastic about this new gaming platform that a game console doesn't have?. Cheers! On 6/29/11, Brice Mellen buu...@gmail.com wrote: Stretching things a lot considering ps3 and Xbox sold millions of copies, not to mention Microsoft announcing their new Xbox next summer. And yeah apparently they forgot about all the other colsoles and games that are already out, consoles aren't dying out, this is just the beginning. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Exactly Sony and Nentindo have been in this gaming business for a long time, they know how to make innovative stuff, and if anyone is going to pave the way for the future of gaming, I predict it will be Sony and Nentindo and/or Microsoft leading the way. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] console gaming almost at an end Hi, Yes, that's true, but I don't think the article was really looking at console sales right now. It was more of a promo or advertisement of the kinds of technology we could expect to see within the next 10 years. Like all developers they seem to believe that their new technologies will eventually whipe out the console competition and gaming will move to the internet and you can simply dialup and play using your Iphone or Android phone. Perhaps so, but I don't think that anything like that could completely whipeout the console market. New technologies usually never catch on as much as the developer expects. For example, I remember Apple being mentioned specifically in the article. Its true that Mac sales have doubled over the last three or four years, thanks to the Mac X platform, and of course their IPhone and IPod markets are doing well. However, they still have not been able to replace Microsoft as the primary operating system of choice, and Windows 7 sales are still way ahead of Mac OS 10.6 sales. On the smart phone front Google's Android phones are giving Apple's IPhone some stiff competition. My point being that if Apple or anyone else thinks they can just kick Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony out of the gaming market with a brand new internet based gaming platform they are over estimating the impact of their technology. First, PC based games have had internet or online capability for at least the last 15 years or so. Many of the new consoles have online modes which are quite popular. A new completely online gaming platform might be the way of the future, but its not exactly totally new given that internet access is becoming a part of game consoles etc already My question would be, what is so fantastic about this new gaming platform that a game console doesn't have?. Cheers! On 6/29/11, Brice Mellen buu...@gmail.com wrote: Stretching things a lot considering ps3 and Xbox sold millions of copies, not to mention Microsoft announcing their new Xbox next summer. And yeah apparently they forgot about all the other colsoles and games that are already out, consoles aren't dying out, this is just the beginning. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Dark, Well, that was sort of my point. Every time you upgrade to a new platform there is a cost involved both for developer and customer. Sure, you can make a profit off of building a new platform, all new games for that platform, and of course updated ports for the platform, but there is also a lot of upfront research and development costs in doing that. Many times if you have a stable platform, say the Wii, it is better for the developer in the long run to stick with it for as long as possible allowing the developer to reap the maximum profit from the current technology through direct sales, licenses, etc. Now, if someone comes out with a better console and you are losing sales because of it, or you have hit the market potential for the console that's when it is time to release a brand new console to compete with the updated competition. However, there will always be a certain amount of customers who will still want to use their current, perhaps slightly older, console until the price comes down on the new console, there are more games available for the console, and there are more users who own the new console. So there tends to be a couple of years between release date and when it takes over the previous markets. For instance, the Wii can play Double Dragon and a number of other classic NES games via the Wii Ware as you mentioned. Thing is I still own the original 1980's and 1990's NES and SNES hardware and games. I'm not going to go out and buy a Wii just to play those games as I already have the games and proper hardware in the first place. Then, many of the Wii Games such as Wii Sports are ok, but I'm not all that interested in them personally. Sure I'll sit down with my family and play Wii Sports Resort or whatever now and then, but its not the kind of thing I would by for myself. A lot of the games for the Wii just aren't my thing so I don't see any need to invest in it. However, if I did want to buy a Wii the fact I could play all the old games would be a plus and be a big part of the deciding factor. Especially, if I didn't own the original hardware as many people do not any more. My point being, is that if there is a new technology that will supposably whipe out the current game consoles then it would have to provide the same number of games, be cost effective, and of course have new ports of existing games to move everyone to it. If there is some game person x happens to love and it isn't available on the new platform then the person will be less likely to buy or invest unless their is something else just as good. Games are like other forms of art, and never fully wear out. A good game will be passed on from generation to generation, and be received just as well by the next generation. Pacman, for instance, is now 30 years old. I played that game as a kid, and have seen several different versions and takes on that game. My son is going to be 7 very soon, and he loves the game. I wouldn't doubt it if when he gets to be my age his children will still be playing some Pacman varient in 25 years or so. A good game doesn't wear out, and any new technology or platform must provide a certain number of classic games like that to even grab a large majority of the market. The problem is in order torecreate, port, and sell all of those classic games will take considerable time and money that could be spent on new technology which will keep the new market fresh for those looking for something new and different to play. Cheers! On 6/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. well as someone who was playing double dragon advanced earlier today, the very cool gba remake of theold classic relased I think roughly six years ago, and! as someon who has games which are up to 25 years old I agree. Another thing that's totally missed, is the amount of old games stil supported by consoles. i know lots of people who have a bunch of snes, mega drive and nes titles through the Wii ware service, precisely because they want the old games but don't have the hardware anymore. This sort of thing isn't legally (or particularly efficiently), available on pc. finally, relating to your economy point, an interesting point is that new console developement seems to have just about stoppd. The nintendo 64 was released I believe in 1996, then followed the gamecube in 2001 and the wii in 2006. However, we here nothing about a new nintendo console, simply because the wii is stil going. Ditto with the playstation, and while the xbox, havng later releases than the others hasn't been out as long, I stil don't here plans for another machine. Given the combination of the economic situation, and the fact that the Wii and playstation 3 are certainly more versitile in what they can do as compared to earlier machines, eg online competition, unique control methods, net brousing, looking up information like weather etc, I doubt we'll see another console release for at least some time, - which is pretty
