Ashok, Aditya, Vikram, Asfan -
As a graduate of The Gunnery School in Washington, CT, USA...forty years
ago...I have been watching the development of this case over the last
week...and have been trying to understand how a case of homosexual pedophilia
against a teacher would be pursued in
I agree with you...but he may not agree with our definition..
In a message dated 7/27/2009 7:18:32 P.M. India Standard Time,
blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in writes:
To my mind, dear, he would just be being a businessman! Selling a
commodity like all businessmen, do, even if the commodity
Aditya -
That is the problem...how can such a document be drafted without
definitions...many or most of the people that I think they were meaning to
cover by
the term msm/tg...do not identify or define themselves as such..
To me it sounds like a term to place gay men and drag queens into
Aditya -
What does TG mean in your lexicon??
Elizabeth
In a message dated 7/25/2009 2:17:52 P.M. India Standard Time,
adit.b...@gmail.com writes:
[_Attachment(s)_ (mip://05c7a0e0/default.html#TopText) from Aditya
Bondyopadhyay included below]
Hi All,
Forwarding you the ECOSOC
I know..
I can see the Emerald Buddha from here..
In a message dated 7/25/2009 6:30:03 P.M. India Standard Time,
joyce...@163.com writes:
TG stands for Thai Airway International.
在2009-07-25，MyOnePenn在2009-07-25，MyO
Aditya -
What does TG mean in your lexicon??
Would a married man...with children...who comes to Bangalore...puts on
dresses like a woman...to have sex with men to make money to support his
family in AP... be an MSM or a TG??
In a message dated 7/25/2009 6:29:45 P.M. India Standard Time,
adit.b...@gmail.com writes:
Hi Elisabeth, I
Aditya -
Sadly...this report is meant to impress the mathematically disadvantaged..
In simple terms...their premise is like saying that...because Rita Joshi
is in the Congress Party run by Rahul in UP...that her house was burnt down
by Congress men..
Conspiracy theory...for the
Moderator -
Why is this trash still being allowed to slip through your filter??..
Elizabeth
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need to be careful.
thanks for pointing out
regards
moderator
'With this discovery, the researchers have taken an important first step
toward the development of new treatments to help people with HIV to prevent
or recover from TB infection. '
A very, very small 'first' step..
Possibly Gay Bombay could assist Mumbaikers...in changing their opinion of
MJ has transcended...the pettiness of the people who tortured him in life..
MJ left behind a better world...than MJ was born into..
We are the world
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IweJ0g39Ifeature=related_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IweJ0g39Ifeature=related)
Moderator -
Blackmail is just one of the many costs of deceitfulness..
Honesty tends to give one a sense of self-respect...and...it can become
just as addictive as dishonesty..
I hope this helps..
Elizabeth
In a message dated 6/24/2009 11:14:03 A.M. India Standard Time,
It was a forwarded email posted by the moderator..
If the moderator had sent me a poem by Tagore...by simple etiquette I would
have responded to the moderator...as Tagore was in control of just the
first two lives of the poem...everything leading up to Tagore's inspiration to
write the
After almost 5 years in India...I can vouch for much in this report..
The vast majority of externally funded HIV and sexual minority NGOs...whose
books I have reviewed are frauds...a fact that any small time accountant
could easily identify...and a fact well known by Indians...rich and poor,
Now I am not a lawyer...but for the benefit of gays and eunuchs...I would
have Fernandes plead guilty to 498A...and then assess those so
benefitted...to pay for the cost of his noble sacrifice..
This could be the 'precedential act'...that many are searching for in the
dark..
Elizabeth
Asfan -
I have nothing against this seedy pack of gentlemen being punished for
their crimes..
But won't sending them to prison be like dying and going to heaven for this
bunch..
I would recommend first fully castrating them...and then providing them to
the other inmates in their
Sanjay -
This is a great idea...500,000 dollars!!
Get me all the details...and the lawyers' phone..
I've got a lot of friends in the US...who benefit from 500,000..
I just wish I was a bit younger..
Elizabeth
In a message dated 4/30/2009 1:48:44 P.M. India Standard Time,
Guy -
Sounds like what many of us on this side of the digital divide...do
everyday..
What can be done to help those on the other side of the digital
divide...that I deal with everyday??
You know those without literacy, water, health science knowledge and of
course computers??
And who
Vivek -
Are you saying that Celina does not have a moderator for her websites??
Possibly...she should speak to Salman or Shilpa...about the ups and downs of
being a public figure..
Elizabeth
-Original Message-
From: nitin.kar...@gmail.com
To: Vivek R Anand avive...@gmail.com;
Aditya -
There is who you are...and...what other people think you are..
My chelas all have voters IDs...and hopefully all of them will vote..
In India...there are no?districts that require?people to be of solely one
specified gender...to vote..
So...I would recommend all eunuchs to vote...no
It is great to hear Vivekananda's voice..
I hope his words and spirit are meaningful to others in the group..as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxUzKoIt5aM?
Elizabeth
You are invited to Get a Free AOL Email ID. -
As concerns transgender matters...I agree with you whole heartedly..
Iran's interpretation of Islam has created a legal and respected place for
transsexuals..
I only wish that I could feel safer...as an engreezi walli...in traveling to
see my friends in Iran..
Elizabeth
-Original
Asfan, Aditya All -
After all your fine definitions of aquatic life...I decide to google 'Aretha
Franklin'...my queen of soul (and fried catfish)...along with the word
'sole'...
_http://jezebel.com/5039952/aretha-franklin-is-the-queen-of-luxury-sole#viewcomments_
In a message dated 12/28/2008 10:36:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
adit.b...@gmail.com writes:
Hey, you are talking of a person who has given up his entire property, every
penny to his name, to his praja and to the queeer movement. He epitomises
the Gandhian principles of simple living
Asfan -
If Bejun Mehta shows up on my doorstep any day...I will immediately take
Bejun to Mumbai...and have a writ placed on Bejun..
My chelas are transfixed by Bejun..
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JyEcwtgESs_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JyEcwtgESs)
Upon my passing they
In a message dated 12/9/2008 10:26:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for lettingme know. I will try and look it up and if
possible in my next trip to Bangkok get a pirated copy. :-)
BTW one reason why I posted the article was also because I was
Asfan -
Thank you for the elucidation...I now have both a book and a DVD to order
from Amazon..
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farinelli_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farinelli)
Elizabeth
In a message dated 12/9/2008 7:38:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aditya -
There is also a movie on him that I have been told is wonderfulthough I
have never seen it myself..
Elizabeth
**Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and
favorite sites in one place. Try it now.
In light of Obama's resounding mandate for faith and hope through out not
just the United States but the world at large..
It is worth reflecting on the failure of the gay marriage referendum...in a
state that gave an incredible victory to the ultimate outsider presidential
candidate...and
While I have not followed the responses to this article...I should point out
that...though not as productive as female mammary glands...most males
mammary glands are capable of producing milk...i.e.the nipples are not merely
vestigal obsolescent objects...they are functioning integral pars
In a message dated 9/19/2008 11:01:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The scary bit is really the fact that we can not do much and/or choose not
to do much with younger teens because of that bogey of Gay=Pedophilia crap
that we all have had to live with and
Dinesh -
Your problem is a simple one...you feel that some how the private lives of
hijras should be regulated by the government...and that there is no difference
between a hijra and a western style transgendered person..
Possibly, you are very wrong..
If you wish to record the two
Now Aditya Dear -
I do not think there is probably anything wrong with what this fine person
was thinking...we are all free to have our thoughts..
Either our eminent moderator has posted something out of context..
Or possibly the writer is not adept in expressing him/her/tri self in a
re: Sagazij and Re.Hi Guys
The web is both a very confusing and honest place to air ones views and try
to understand ourselves and others..
It is always better to treat a possible cobra with caution...but one should
never be too paralyzed to make their thoughts known because of their
I always find that statistics are hard to swallow and impossible to digest.
The only one I can ever remember is that if all the people who go to sleep
in church were laid end to end they would be a lot more comfortable. ~Mrs.
Robert A. Taft
**Get the scoop on last night's
Great story...I will forward it to the National Enquirer...I am sure they
will publish it with all the relevant pictures and diagrams...or is Oprah more
appropriate as she has done the 'pregnant man' already??
**Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient
Aditya -
The mis-use and non-use of allocated government funds exists in a massive
scale throughout India..
Those at risk for and from HIV should not take it more personally than the
handicapped or farmers..
Hopefully...one day the Indian government will be able to track the
All gory details aside...this is sadly a very common occurrence...for lost
or confused trans, straight and gay folks...and it has been especially common
over the last 20 years...around the globe...because of the advent of the
internet...and the easy access of cyber-ghosts to risk-takers..
Moderator -
Everyone is who they pretend to be...nobody is born with a direct path to
become Shah Rukh Khan...he pretended to be himself so much that eventually the
world fell at his feet in awe of him..
All of us trans, straight and gay do the same in our search for stability
and an
Asfan -
As most people I stay with do not wear underpants...do you think if the
magnets were placed in their bras it would help them increase their bust
sizes??
Asfan you are as always a veritable source of heartfelt wisdom..
Love..
Elizabeth
**Biggest Grammy Award
Bunny -
Jainism in its highest form is a very ascetic way of life..
It stresses individual spiritual development...and does not condemn others
who do not follow a particular party line..
i.e. if you have, meditated in depth upon everything in and out of life in
the fullest
In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:30:12 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sometimes when you are angry withe someone, it helps to sit down, and think
over the problem.
And always remember...that when you want to vent steam at one of your GB
mates...you need to do it
In a message dated 9/12/2007 7:43:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear Elizabeth,
I really wish that if even 25% of the world thinks like u... it would be a
grate place to stay in.
I am really happy to see some of the ppl reply on this subject.
When watching this You Tube it is important to look first at the film makers
and then the audience that the film maker is addressing..
These are generally middle class, well educated people suffering from all
the problems associated with being at least moderately secure in
When watching this You Tube it is important to look first at the film makers
and then the audience that the film maker is addressing..
These are generally middle class, well educated people suffering from all
the problems associated with being at least moderately secure in their material
Rohit -
In Brazil the most common form of plastic surgery is butt enhancement..
I would recommend that you start your internet search there...and then zero
in on a good plastic surgeon near you..
But Brazil where topless swimming and bikini bottoms are de rigeur is
obviously the place
In a message dated 8/4/2007 9:40:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
a political appointee to this office has little or no views dude - atleast
not worth considering or wasting time on
dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know her views on homosexuality?
Moderator -
Now I must be getting dense in my old age...or is something missing from
this article that would cause it to make logical sense??
I know editors frequently edit an article down to uselessness...what
happened here???
I cannot mount a sensible agreement or disagreement to a
Shweta -
Those are wonderful words and ideas for those in India who are computer
literate and have access to western middle class culture..
But we should not forget that the majority of Indians cannot find Karnataka
on a map...no less understand what a state or country means...do you
Aditya -
While I totally share your frustration with the lack of clear descriptions
for objects and personalities...I do not think the main cause of this problem
lies with those outside our communities so much as it does with us ourselves..
We tend to have a multitude...if not a
In a message dated 2/28/2007 5:05:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Flamingos seem to have an appropriate color. They form both male and
female homosexual pairs. The bond is similar to that of a
heterosexual mated pair and is expressed through shared activities,
such
Are we as Transgendered and Gay people any more comfortable with this
word... and the vast universe of ideas that this iconic word contains??
Elizabeth
Children's Book Stirs Battle With Single Word
By JULIE BOSMAN
The New York Times
(Feb. 18) -- The word “scrotum” does not often
In a World Exclusive Interview, Michael Jackson Talks About His New Life in
Vegas and His Comeback
Posted Feb 5th 2007 7:06PM by _Robin Leach_
(http://www.vegaspopular.com/bloggers/robin-leach)
Michael Jackson's long-awaited return to 'King of Pop' status has begun and
it's being
Hardaway Displays Honesty and Stupidity
Homophobia Not Shocking, But Hate Hits Low Point
By JASON WHITLOCK
AOL
Sports Commentary
At first, Tim Hardaway's stupidity provoked a chuckle. He couldn't be
serious. Not in these politically correct times. His remarks on Dan LeBatard's
radio
Okay guys looks like time is about up...Komodo females are at the top by
themselves...and have no natural predators...male, female, hetero or homo..
Evolution probably is saying 'male is passe... okay, let them play with
themselves if they wish'..
We only need one good male for every
In a message dated 5/29/2006 10:55:27 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WHERE ARE WE HEADING TO? WHICH DIRECTION ?AND DO WE WANT THIS TO BE ALLOWED
?? WILL THE PREDICTION OF INDIA BECOMING THE SUPERPOWER IN FUTURE BE
ONLY A DREAM ?? KYA AISE HI KARLENGE DUNIYA
In a message dated 4/22/2006 9:34:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had
been to Thailand, acouple of times. It never took more than half an hour for
me to get a visa- on- arrival at Bangkok Airport Staff was very courteous and
polite.
Possibly there was an
In a message dated 4/21/2006 5:08:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There
was a reason I posted this article on Thailand: not to encouragetourism in
Thailand (I've never been there myself) :-)
Oh my Darius...I totally misunderstood you...I hopped on a plane
In a message dated 4/8/2006 10:29:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
McFarland acknowledged that it was difficult to get a precise number
because of sensitivities over the issue. But he said San Francisco residents
were likely to be more open about their
Interesting article but it is
more reflective of the typical GLBT misuse of the Hijara/eunuch population than
about the needs and skills of the hijara/eunuch population..
The word 'eunuch' is a great
kicker when people are trying to attract attention to themselves...if Tata or
Kids Kemp
In a message dated 3/24/2006 12:03:17 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of
course, there is need to understand that there is within each man a set of
feminine potentials, but society demands that these be suppressed. But the
fact remains that cross
In a message dated 3/1/2006 9:49:09 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am not a Catholic queen but I think the whole article is in
abysmally poor taste. It isn't even funny. It is absolute
trash!!
Asfan.
Vikram -
In America we are permitted to write most
Maybe not in everybody's backyard...but there are many Indians in Philly
and New Jersey..
Elizabeth
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Geoffrey -
As Vikram indicates...the state of the people in the North East is worse
than anything currently being experienced in Wyoming and
Australia...please stop into the northeast next time you visit India...it
is not just one dead gay man but hundreds of murdered and raped innocents
In a message dated 1/20/2006 9:44:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This
just brings home to me that the only right I have wanted with any
consistency is the freedom to be who I am. I'll be the first to admit that
I owe much of that freedom to group-based
Manan -
Both female foeticide and female infanticide push India to the very far
reaches of barbarity in the modern world...the generally published numbers that
I have seen over the last year indicate that 40 million Indian women are not
alive today...women who by simple statistics should
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:10:31 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Say proudly, I AM AN INDIAN.
Regards,
Jimmy khan
Jimmy -
Even without these stunning numbers and facts you have every right to be
proud to be an Indian..
and Every person
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:01:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't
anyone else slightly uneasy about a gay film written by a woman and
starring two straight (correct me if I am wrong)actors?I haven't seen
it and expect that I am wrong. But anything so
Charles Socarides, Gay 'Cure'
Doctor, Dies
AP
NEW YORK (AP) - Charles Socarides, the psychiatrist
famous for insisting that homosexuality was a treatable illness and who claimed
to have "cured" hundreds, has died. He was 83.
Socarides, died Dec. 25 of heart failure at a hospital
near
Ajay and SikkimKrishna -
After your responses to my email...I have included my thoughts on the
matter based upon my life as a Wyoming rural TG cowgirl myself...in art there
are no right answers...just creations left for interpretation..
I would love to know more about your thoughts on
Annie Proulx -
I had the great pleasure of seeing Brokeback Mountain at the 10 AM showing
at the Mayan in Denver on Christmas..
I feel that your story has been very respectfully filmed in light of the
current needs to produce a box office worthy movie..
It is with the possible exception
US
:Transgender Professor
click or enter on your browser..
http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2guideContext=65.73pmmsid=1433787
Now if we can just get Indian society to realize that being TG and/or a
hijara/eunuch is not a sexual thing...Liz
This is a5 minuteclip
In a message dated 10/27/2005 12:03:48 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
happened to view the film on a Sunday at Huma Adlabs evening show..I reached
the theatre at 6.05 PM (6 was the show). They told me to wait for a while.
Later unwillingly they issued the
In a message dated 10/10/2005 12:35:10 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
EthanI do not know how much of the Third World
countriesyou've seen, but if you're new then I suggest youbegin your
India visit from the South. Take a flightto Bangalore, explore
Kerala,
Ethan -
As a TG who went to architecture school in Berkeley...I would say that you
should ask us where those items that you were interested in might be...India is
just as diverse as the human mind can be...i.e. the best sweeis are probably not
found in the most logically designed
Kris -
I went to the blog...sadly it is unaware that themuch
reveredFamila the hijara leader in Bangalore committed suicide a year
ago..
Elizabeth
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If www.Gaybombay.com would like to
be considered for an article in Alliance Magazine...which is a full colour,
monthly, middle-of-the-road LBGT magazine...published in Denver, Colorado...in
the process of expanding its market from the westernstates to the full US
national
Dax -
Could you look at this report and ask Donna Red Wing to review it as
wellI am afraid that it is another case of Gays cruelly using the TG
community as cannon fodder...
This could be an interesting article for you toresearch to help bring
the TG Community at-large into the US
As a 55 year old TG who has never been abused by police or general public
anywhere in the US during the last 37 years since I identified myself as
TG...I
would be very interested in reading this report...I guess I do not run with
the right crowd...I am very intrigued to see who is in
In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:53:09 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi
everyone,I am happy to announce the upcoming gay n lesbian party and
this time its on Saturday night, yes you read it right! The theme is Men
in Black, so guys... please be a sport and
There are thousands of private charities in the USA and the West that
assist the disadvantaged and AIDS suffers...many, many of them are Leftist or
populist in their goals...I would recommend that this AIDS orphanage learn these
NGOs individual requirements for funding...and to try to
Rajiv -
Sadly this TGs death is not an isolated situation...'pumpimg parties' are very
popular where ever there are a large number of Crossdressers...who are
under-employed or unemployed in the USA...sadly not just deaths but permanently
disfiguring results are very common..
I do not know
In a message dated 7/10/2005 6:52:34 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hii
am 20 years old.i am staying in bombay. i like to wear female dress for
more time as possible as . but the problem is i dont know how to wear ,how
to make up as a girl .i dont heve any
Moderator -
Nothing bothers me...so long as you are nothaving to change your
scent as well...my computer feels so much more at ease when it is opening one of
your missives..
Elizabeth
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hi
The Full Length Wyoming and South Australia Version..
Cowboy A - You know my ranch is so big it takes me all day
toride from one side of it to the other side..
Cowboy B - Yup...I know what you are talking about...I used to
have a horse like that myself..
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GBoys -
Sowhat is wrong with a person who has plastic surgery to make
themselves with feel good...I would much rather have a significant other who had
had liposuction or a rhinoplasty...than one that reverts to overeating, drugs,
drinking, smoking or risky socialand sexual intercourse to
Gaybombay and Sampoorna-
If anybody here likes rural action, muscles or queens...you will love
this event..
I would even hop on a plane to Mumbai or Delhi...to watch...if
they had Gay Rodeos in those cities..
Best..
Elizabeth
July 9 10
What: Rocky Mountain Regional Rodeo
Hosted
www.cgra.net
Where else but at Gay Rodeos does the Royalty include both a
Miss Rodeo and a Ms Rodeo Queen??
I let you figure out from the pic the gender and potential
sexuality of the winners..
Best
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(June 19) - Janet Jackson was in no mood for jokes when she got a cheeky
introduction from actor Alan Cumming as she received a humanitarian award from a
gay rights group.
After Cumming joked that she was never one for controversy,
Jackson apologized for her own
Subject: PRIZESJohn the farmer was in the
fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called
pullets and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilize the eggs. The
farmer kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup
pot and was
Okay girls...get your butts and/or bucks down to Kolkata/Calcutta..
See you there..
Elizabeth
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Moderators do what you wish with this...just thought it might
spice up your day..
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I got this not from a girl I have known since second grade...who writes for
a major magazine in London now..
Has anybody seen the show and/or have a copy they would to
send me..
Elizabeth??
Youd love this
program that was on Channel 4 here last night. I disagree with the review
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Zia Jaffrey is a wonderful Indo-American as well as a wonderful writer to
read...remember 'The Invisibles'..
Elizabeth
..
Time, jaffrey writes:
Dear Elizabeth,
Thank you for that. I hope you
are well.
We are all grieving Ismail's
loss.
In a message dated 5/27/2005 12:51:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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..
Um... olives don't grow in India.
Vikram
Vikram -
Any reason??...you definitely have similar lands to South Australia and the
Mediterranean...we can grow avocados, aloe vera and the
I have been thinking about a hijara/eunuch olive oil collective or
agricultural cooperative...you know like our sequestered Benedictine and
Trappist siblings do with booze and jam...I bet we could stuff the shelves of
the 'Whole Foods' and independent health food stores in the
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i am in
san francisco bay area, looking for indian and paki
friends.nabil
TGs???
Check out
Carlas in SJ...near The Alameda...and www.tgsf.org in SF..
Elizabeth
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