On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 16:53 +0100, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Just zap alexandria (we just zapped the mailinglist too). We can look at it
as being promoted to TLP
anyway (gump).
ORO and Regexp ar kind of finished I thought, we should mark it stable or
something like that.
Don't know
Henri Yandell wrote:
* ECS, ORO, Regexp to be moved to a label of Inactive.
Think of Regexp as of low maintenance project. There are several issues reported
against it, and some of those can be (relatively) easy fixed and new release can
be pushed out.
It would be disappointing if such
Just zap alexandria (we just zapped the mailinglist too). We can look at it as being promoted to TLP
anyway (gump).
ORO and Regexp ar kind of finished I thought, we should mark it stable or
something like that.
Don't know about ECS though.
Mvgr,
Martin
Henri Yandell wrote:
I really
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yoav
Shapira writes:
I do care, a lot, as a user. Active means bugs are getting fixed, the
mailing lists are a reasonable source for help, and if new standards
I think that's a reason why perhaps a finer gradation than inactive and
active may be in order. For
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Daniel F. Savarese wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yoav
Shapira writes:
I do care, a lot, as a user. Active means bugs are getting fixed, the
mailing lists are a reasonable source for help, and if new standards
I think that's a reason why perhaps a finer
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes:
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
I think you nailed it. Active, Supported, and Unsupported. Or
Active, Inactive (Supported), and Inactive (Unsupported). Anyway,
whatever the specific names end up being, that's the gist of it.
Hola,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes:
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
+1.
Yoav
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On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
??
Purely from a semantics perspective, unsupported seems to imply you can
count on some sort of support while the project is being maintained.
Although there is support, it is
On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
My preference would be:
Active Development: not really named though, the implied default
Hibernating: not active but will wake up as needed
Dormant: no future activity is expected
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Sandy
On 3/6/06, Sandy McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
My preference would be:
Active Development: not really named though, the implied default
Hibernating: not active but will wake up as
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Scot Hale wrote:
On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Active Development
Maintenance Mode
Unsupported
??
Purely from a semantics perspective, unsupported seems to imply you can
count on some sort of support while the project is being maintained.
Hola,
The word we've used in the past for this type of scenario is
dormant, although inactive is just as good IMHO. We've left the
link up but made the front page something like this:
http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog/index.html, whose text we spent a
good time considering and debating.
And
Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO.
[We're happily using that in JMeter]
Or does Dormant/Inactive imply Mature/Stable?
S.
On 05/03/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hola,
The word we've used in the past for this type of scenario is
dormant, although
Hi,
You're right, that's a good distinction to make, because
dormant/inactive is not always the same as mature/stable. That's why
we wrote the explanation on the Watchdog page with regards to servlet
specification versions. On the ORO page, I might imagine a notice
saying this project is dormant
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb:
Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO.
[We're happily using that in JMeter]
Yes, I second that. Inactive, dormant etc. sound negative while
mature or stable leave a good impression. And it is indeed a big
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb:
Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO.
[We're happily using that in JMeter]
Yes, I second that. Inactive, dormant etc. sound negative while
mature or stable leave a
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finding a label to match the above messages is tricky; inactive
development seems to be the only one that fits.
How about a project is in hibernation. In other words no future
developement is expected unless the enviroment for that project
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really shouldn't be sending multiple emails at the same time - you'll
all jsut end up replying to one of them. However, itching while the itch
is present.
Alexandria is dead. We need to represent it as so on the site.
Why? You're trying
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb:
Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO.
[We're happily using that in JMeter]
Yes, I second that. Inactive,
BCEL - In need of a bugfix release, design-wise ASM is preferrable.
Almost there :) ...still a few bugs to close
cheers
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Torsten
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On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really shouldn't be sending multiple emails at the same time - you'll
all jsut end up replying to one of them. However, itching while the itch
is present.
Alexandria is dead. We need to represent
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 16:08 -0500 schrieb Henri Yandell:
Inactive Subprojects
...
* POI
...
No! POI is not inactive at all. I just committed a major enhancement a
few days ago.
Best regards
Rainer Klute
Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH
Dipl.-Inform.
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 16:08 -0500 schrieb Henri Yandell:
Inactive Subprojects
...
* POI
...
No! POI is not inactive at all. I just committed a major enhancement a
few days ago.
*evil grin*
I may have added a couple to that list that I
Henri Yandell wrote:
Inactive Subprojects
* Cactus
Cactus is more on a 'Hibernation' status; I agree there hasn't been
activities in the last weeks, but we have some stuff planned (for
instance, I should have relased Cactus 1.7.2 to fix the jboss-j2ee.jar
issue, but couldn't do so
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Felipe Leme wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
Inactive Subprojects
* Cactus
Cactus is more on a 'Hibernation' status; I agree there hasn't been
activities in the last weeks, but we have some stuff planned (for instance, I
should have relased Cactus 1.7.2 to fix the
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really shouldn't be sending multiple emails at the same time - you'll
all jsut end up replying to one of them. However, itching while the
Hola,
Martin, I agree with almost everything you've said, except this:
But why? If I'm a user looking for something to help me out in my
development, I don't really care that much if it's active or not. What I
I do care, a lot, as a user. Active means bugs are getting fixed, the
mailing lists
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All (90%?) of the navel gazing comes down to one binary question. Should
Jakarta be a community, or a community of communities. Are we Jakarta
committers, or ORO committers.
It should be what it
On 3/5/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hola,
Martin, I agree with almost everything you've said, except this:
But why? If I'm a user looking for something to help me out in my
development, I don't really care that much if it's active or not. What I
I do care, a lot, as a user.
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All (90%?) of the navel gazing comes down to one binary question.
Should
Jakarta be a community, or a community of communities. Are we Jakarta
On 3/5/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But why? If I'm a user looking for something to help me out in my
development, I don't really care that much if it's active or not. What I
care about is if it does the job. If there are problems with it, then I
might care about whether it's
On 3/5/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/5/06, Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hola,
Martin, I agree with almost everything you've said, except this:
But why? If I'm a user looking for something to help me out in my
development, I don't really care that much if
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