Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

2002-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hi, I'm writing, at the recommendation of Stefano Mazzocchi, in hopes of drawing discussion and perhaps later a vote on the creation of a new Jakarta subproject based on the POI project (http://poi.sourceforge.net http://sourcefoge.net/projects/poi). The POI project consists of an API for

Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Does anyone have a page regarding how to make a Jakarta release? I'd like to put one together and post it with the other guideline materials. I've noticed that a few releases now include the JARs as a seperate download. Personally, I think that's a good idea, since more and more products have

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 1/1/02 10:39 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a page regarding how to make a Jakarta release? I'd like to put one together and post it with the other guideline materials. I tried to make a dist target for helping with a release. The target makes source and binary

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
What would be nice would be to have a JJAR/CJAN project coupled with GUMP. This application would have both an Ant task (for developers) to retrieve versions of dependent jars (latest or specified version or date) and a GUI/Applet in the download area so that end user could use it to download

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the JARs are just put in with the other builds. Perhaps we can just recommend that everyone follow suit. http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-lucene/nightly/2002-01-01/

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
-Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 18:39 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the JARs are just put in with the other builds. Perhaps we can just

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Ted Husted wrote: I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the JARs are just put in with the other builds. Perhaps we can just recommend that everyone follow suit. http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-lucene/nightly/2002-01-01/ I post the contents of those

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 12:57 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be nice would be to have a JJAR/CJAN project coupled with GUMP. This application would have both an Ant task (for developers) to retrieve versions of dependent jars (latest or specified version or date) and a GUI/Applet

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:00 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 18:39 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs I think Lucene is already doing something very similar. Except that the

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Vincent Massol wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. I've had a look and the dependent jars are _not_ put with the gump build (or the release build). I mean that if we all start offering our JARs as a separate download, like Lucene and some others are doing, then people who need these JARs can

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Vincent Massol wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and possibly in a validated working state, proved by unit

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:33 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Massol wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. I've had a look and the dependent jars are _not_ put with the gump build (or the release build). I mean that if we all start offering our JARs as a separate download, like Lucene and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and possibly in a validated working state, proved by unit

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However Any license issues? Wouldn't we want to package the

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars (and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:54 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However

RE: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Vincent Massol
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 19:24 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs On 1/1/02 12:57 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be nice would be to have a JJAR/CJAN project coupled

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 3:08 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 19:26 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs You don't want to use the results of Gump for JJAR. Gump isn't

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
At 07:39 02.01.2002 +1100, Peter Donald wrote: Hi, This is not something that should have been brought up on the PMC list - it should be discussed on general. Peter I do not need your permission to bring up a subject on the PMC list. It was uncourteous of you to forward my message to the

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be asked to retrieve all dependent jars for a given project. Not to

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 6:04 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be asked to

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
AFAIK, all the Jakarta sub-projects try to ensure (but cannot guarantee) that the nightly builds remain usuable. The idea being you build and test it on your own machine before committing it to the CVS. Of course, since we are human and our tests are imperfect, the nigthly builds sometimes break.

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 7:12 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, all the Jakarta sub-projects try to ensure (but cannot guarantee) that the nightly builds remain usuable. The idea being you build and test it on your own machine before committing it to the CVS. Of course, since we are human and

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and different. Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain a milestone version of commons-collections.jar dated May 11th, when there was a release of

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 8:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and different. Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain a milestone version of commons-collections.jar

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Ted Husted wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:54:30 -0500 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just the JARs Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff