Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:26:50 -0700
"Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >(What about Struts?)
> At the moment, Struts uses hand-crafted XSLT stylesheets that preceeded 
> the existence of Forrest (and Maven), but we are considering some 
> alternatives based on both Forrest's and Maven's site generation 
> facilities.  Some proof-of-concept prototypes (not necessarily polished) 
> of the Struts main page, using three different Forrest skins, are at:
> Krysalis style:   http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site/
> Avalon/Tigris style:  http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site1/
> Forrest/XML Apache style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site2/

Looks very nice. :)  Kool.

> Personally, I would prefer either the Krysalis or Avalon/Tigris styles 
> to the default Forrest/XML Apache style, but that's just me.  Various 
> Struts developers have various opinions, as well as concerns about the 
> processing time implications of using Forrest.

Likewise

> We also use XSLT transformations for other reasons as well (i.e.
> generating tag library descriptors and reference documentation), and
> already enjoy nice things like print-friendly styles without the
> navigation menu -- to say nothing of XHTML-compatible generated
> output -- so I don't feel any great sense of urgency to make a
> migration.  I'm personally not going to have time to even think about
> it in the very near term, due to day-job commitments.  But, it's
> certainly an option for us to share a common look and feel.

In my mind, there might be four options:

1. Create "jakarta-skin" and put it (them) into jakarta-site2
2. Create "jakarta-skin" and put it (them) into xml-forrest. We have
to wait the next release of Forrest (0.5.2 or 0.6), though
3. Update "avalon-tigris" skin / Patch to it (them)
We have to wait the next release of Forrest (0.5.2 or 0.6), though
4. Create "jakarta-XX-skin"s and put it (them) into respective
modules. We can make use of it (them) immediately

Currently, Jakarta-POI adopts #4 style.
Now, I am thinking of the Forrest-ization of Jakarta-Tapestry.
(http://www.terra-intl.com/jakarta/tapestry/)
Therefore, I am thinking of the #1/#2/#3 options.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Before that, could you please answer my (innocent) question?

Why was there no "PDF-Rendering" function in the default
avalon-tigris?

I thought that Avalon-Team did not want the 
PDF files because PDF could have been big
enough to be downloaded.

Sure, I know that it would be related to
skinconfig/disable-pdf-link @ skinconf.xml, though :)

--

Rather, I thought that "jakarta-skin"/"ws-skin" naming
would make sense (Just a copy and reuse of avalon-tigris,
it would be), if it would be integrated into the default
Forrest "skins" dir.

($FORREST/dist/shbat/)
context -
   skins - |--avalon-tigris
   |--common
   |--forrest-css
   |--forrest-site
   |--jakarta-site
   |--krysalis-site
   |--template
   |--ws-site

... Make sense?

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P.S. Tapestry Version: http://www.terra-intl.com/jakarta/tapestry/


On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:53 +0200
(Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> 
> > Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3]
> > are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective
> > modules directly)
> > Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1
> > avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications.
> > 
> > I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however,
> > I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the
> > future.
> 
> If the skin is just a better version of the same skin it would be ok to 
> patch it. If the skin will depart a lot from that, then the Avaloners 
> would need to decide to cooperate in it.
> 
> In any case, the krysalis-site skin has many more features, and I'm 
> getting it ready to be able to switch forrest-site to use that one, with 
> of course the traditional Forrest colors. So you can look in that skin 
> to eventually add the extra features to the avalon-tigris skin.
> 
> In any case, if you send teh patches for avalon-tigris I'll take a look 
> at them.
> 
> -- 
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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:56 +0100
"BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Maybe you can find "new" xsl file via
> > jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
> > 
> > ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..
> 
> As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to JMeter, so I doubt if
> that would work.

D'oh... Sorry. I had a little confused.

Okeydokey. 

What I proposed here, was not "Please use Forrest, all the
Jakarta-XX-Team", but "Dear Jakarta-XX-Project, which
want to use Apache Forrest ...".

I've heard that Struts Team once discusses about the usage of Forrest,
so I said "What about Struts?"

As for JMeter, I think now it is working well. 
(Yes, I sent patches for the re-build of the site using Anakia, 
the other day)
Just I took a look at the current JMeter site and found that
there's still "Copyright 1999-2001" statement at the bottom
of each pages. So, I told you the procedure of updating website how-to.

Thank you.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Brian McCallister
On this topic - I am tackling OJB documentation at the moment and would 
love to chat with someone who has put together a solid set of docs for 
one of the projects with excellent docs.

As it isn't community relevant, really, drop me a line offline if you 
can give me a couple pointers about things to do/avoid. I have 
*written* lots, but don't think I know quite enough about good 
*deployment* of docs.

-Brian

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 08:26 PM, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

(What about Struts?)


At the moment, Struts uses hand-crafted XSLT stylesheets that 
preceeded the existence of Forrest (and Maven), but we are considering 
some alternatives based on both Forrest's and Maven's site generation 
facilities.  Some proof-of-concept prototypes (not necessarily 
polished) of the Struts main page, using three different Forrest 
skins, are at:

Krysalis style:   http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site/
Avalon/Tigris style:  http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site1/
Forrest/XML Apache style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site2/
Personally, I would prefer either the Krysalis or Avalon/Tigris styles 
to the default Forrest/XML Apache style, but that's just me.  Various 
Struts developers have various opinions, as well as concerns about the 
processing time implications of using Forrest.

We also use XSLT transformations for other reasons as well (i.e. 
generating tag library descriptors and reference documentation), and 
already enjoy nice things like print-friendly styles without the 
navigation menu -- to say nothing of XHTML-compatible generated output 
-- so I don't feel any great sense of urgency to make a migration.  
I'm personally not going to have time to even think about it in the 
very near term, due to day-job commitments.  But, it's certainly an 
option for us to share a common look and feel.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

(What about Struts?)

 

At the moment, Struts uses hand-crafted XSLT stylesheets that preceeded 
the existence of Forrest (and Maven), but we are considering some 
alternatives based on both Forrest's and Maven's site generation 
facilities.  Some proof-of-concept prototypes (not necessarily polished) 
of the Struts main page, using three different Forrest skins, are at:

Krysalis style:   http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site/
Avalon/Tigris style:  http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site1/
Forrest/XML Apache style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site2/
Personally, I would prefer either the Krysalis or Avalon/Tigris styles 
to the default Forrest/XML Apache style, but that's just me.  Various 
Struts developers have various opinions, as well as concerns about the 
processing time implications of using Forrest.

We also use XSLT transformations for other reasons as well (i.e. 
generating tag library descriptors and reference documentation), and 
already enjoy nice things like print-friendly styles without the 
navigation menu -- to say nothing of XHTML-compatible generated output 
-- so I don't feel any great sense of urgency to make a migration.  I'm 
personally not going to have time to even think about it in the very 
near term, due to day-job commitments.  But, it's certainly an option 
for us to share a common look and feel.

Craig



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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
> -Original Message-
> From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 19:17
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100
> (Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
> "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
> > > (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
> > > $ umask 0002
> > > $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
> > > $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
> > > $ cvs update
> > > yet.
> 
> > Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
> > The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to 
> transform the XML
> > into HTML.
> > Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but 
> not the XSL
> > versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
> > documentation, as far as I know.
> 
> Sorry, me too at a loss :-)
> 
> Maybe you can find "new" xsl file via
> jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl
> 
> ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..

As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to JMeter, so I doubt if
that would work.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100
(Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
"BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
> > (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
> > $ umask 0002
> > $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
> > $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
> > $ cvs update
> > yet.

> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
> The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML
> into HTML.
> Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL
> versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
> documentation, as far as I know.

Sorry, me too at a loss :-)

Maybe you can find "new" xsl file via
jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl

... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess..

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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
> -Original Message-
> From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 18:47
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100
> "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
> > Or perhaps it would make things easier?
> 
> Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs.

For some things, yes, but not for the interactive Help system.
Help uses Java to display an HTML document, and the application navigates to
the correct part of the appropriate file. We don't want to require the users
to install Acrobat.

Java is very finicky about what it will cope with ...

> 
> > At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with 
> separate VSL fiels for
> > the site and printable versions - there are some XSL 
> stylesheets, but I
> > think these are rather out of date.
> 
> It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
> (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
> $ umask 0002
> $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
> $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
> $ cvs update
> yet.
> 

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here.
The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML
into HTML.
Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL
versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of
documentation, as far as I know.

> --
> 
> Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days
> (Really easy).

Not sure we want to regenerate the whole site from CVS at present.

There have been a lot of updates to the user documentation, but the
corresponding version of the software has not been released. It would be
confusing if the online docs described a version that was not generally
available.

However, if you can publish a separate version that does not change the
existing site, that would be useful.

S.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100
"BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
> Or perhaps it would make things easier?

Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs.

> At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for
> the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I
> think these are rather out of date.

It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur
(www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done
$ umask 0002
$ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter
$ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/
$ cvs update
yet.

--

Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days
(Really easy).

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3]
are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective
modules directly)
Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1
avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications.
I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however,
I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the
future.
If the skin is just a better version of the same skin it would be ok to 
patch it. If the skin will depart a lot from that, then the Avaloners 
would need to decide to cooperate in it.

In any case, the krysalis-site skin has many more features, and I'm 
getting it ready to be able to switch forrest-site to use that one, with 
of course the traditional Forrest colors. So you can look in that skin 
to eventually add the extra features to the avalon-tigris skin.

In any case, if you send teh patches for avalon-tigris I'll take a look 
at them.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3]
are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective
modules directly)
Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1
avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications.

I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however,
I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the
future.

What would you say, Avalon-Team?
(See http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)

-- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[1] - http://ws.apache.org/
[2] - http://ws.apache.org/axis/
[3] - http://ws.apache.org/soap/

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:14:55 +0200
(Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project)
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nick Chalko wrote:
> > Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
> > build.
> > 
> > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
> ...
> >> I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to
> >> "POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
> >> and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
> >> projects can re-use.
> 
> It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin 
> is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we 
> can make the project use that one.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
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RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
> -Original Message-
> From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 16:16
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
> for Jakarta SubProjects...
> 
> Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
> http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
> 
> I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.
> 
> (What about Struts?)
> 
> --
> 
> I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to
> "POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
> and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
> projects can re-use.
> 
> Any thoughts?

JMeter needs to be able to build two versions of its documentation - one for
the web-site, and the other for use when running JMeter. This does not have
the left-hand navigation bar. JMeter uses some of the pages in its help
system, which is displayed using Java.

Would using Forrest cause problems with this?
Or perhaps it would make things easier?

At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for
the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I
think these are rather out of date.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Nick Chalko wrote:
Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
build.

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
...
I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to
"POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
projects can re-use.
It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin 
is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we 
can make the project use that one.

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Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Nick Chalko
Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will  include as part of the normal 
build.

Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:

Hi,

I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
for Jakarta SubProjects...
Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.

(What about Struts?)

--

I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to
"POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
projects can re-use.
Any thoughts?

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RE: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
> -Original Message-
> From: Ortwin Glück [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 16:32
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS
> 
> 
> BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:
> > I'm using Eclipse 2.1.1, in case that is relevant here.
> > The top-level dir (docs) is in .cvsignore, so that is not 
> flagged as being
> > out of synch, but all the subdirectories and files are 
> compared, and the
> > result is that all the contents are shown as being new files.
> 
> This is a clear misbehaviour of Eclipse.
> 
> You should try the workaround:
>   - exit Eclipse
>   - manually remove CVS information from all directories under docs/:
> cd docs && rm -rf `find -type d -name CVS`
>   - startup Eclipse
>   - refresh
>   - exit Eclipse
>   - startup Eclipse
>   - synchronize

I removed the entire docs tree, which is what the ant build script does on a
full build.

Eclipse synchronize ignores the docs directory when it is not present.
Eclipse also ignores entire directory trees if the top level is in
.cvsignore and the tree is not in CVS. 
So far, so good.

But if I create and populate the docs directory, the synchronize process
picks up everything under docs.

The difference is that docs is in CVS; Eclipse does not ignore CVS in this
case.

Now I thought .cvsignore files only applied to the current directory, so
that there is a case for saying that Eclipse should check CVS for
sub-directories?

I'm confused!

S.

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cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

2003-10-22 Thread cutting
cutting 2003/10/22 09:09:54

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Updated for Lucene 1.3 RC2 release.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.330 +1 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.329
  retrieving revision 1.330
  diff -u -r1.329 -r1.330
  --- index.html15 Oct 2003 14:11:41 -  1.329
  +++ index.html22 Oct 2003 16:09:53 -  1.330
  @@ -240,6 +240,7 @@
   
   Jakarta Product 
news
   
  +22 October 2003 -  
Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released
   13 October 2003 -  
Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
  
  
  
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  Index: index.xml
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   Jakarta Product news
   
  +22 October 2003 -  
Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released
   13 October 2003 -  
Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
  
  
  

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2003-10-22 Thread cutting
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   http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/bsf/v2.3.0rc1/bin";>BSF 
2.3.0-rc1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/httpclient/binary/";>Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Release Candidate 2
  +http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/lucene/v1.3-rc2/";>Lucene 1.3 
Release Candidate 2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/poi/dev/bin";>POI 2.0 
prereleases
   Tapestry 
3.0-beta-3
   
  
  
  
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  -
  +
  +22 October 2003 - Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released 
  +
  +A new release candidate of 
Lucene is available, with many new
  +features and bug fixes.  See http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-lucene/CHANGES.txt?rev=1.56";>CHANGES.txt
  +for details.  Binary and source distributions are available http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/lucene/v1.3-rc2/";>here.
  +
  +
  +
   13 October 2003 - Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   
   The HttpClient team is pleased 
to announce the latest 2.0 release candidate. 
  
  
  
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   http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/bsf/v2.3.0rc1/bin";>BSF 
2.3.0-rc1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/httpclient/binary/";>Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Release Candidate 2
  +http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/lucene/v1.3-rc2/";>Lucene 1.3 
Release Candidate 2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/poi/dev/bin";>POI 2.0 
prereleases
   Tapestry 
3.0-beta-3
   
  
  
  
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  +
  +22 October 2003 - Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released 
  +
  +
  +A new release candidate of Lucene is available, with many new
  +features and bug fixes.  See http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-lucene/CHANGES.txt?rev=1.56";>CHANGES.txt
  +for details.  Binary and source distributions are available http://cvs.apache.org/dist/jakarta/lucene/v1.3-rc2/";>here.
  +
  +
  +
  +
   
   13 October 2003 - Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   
  
  
  

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Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread Ortwin Glück
BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:
I'm using Eclipse 2.1.1, in case that is relevant here.
The top-level dir (docs) is in .cvsignore, so that is not flagged as being
out of synch, but all the subdirectories and files are compared, and the
result is that all the contents are shown as being new files.
This is a clear misbehaviour of Eclipse.

You should try the workaround:
 - exit Eclipse
 - manually remove CVS information from all directories under docs/:
   cd docs && rm -rf `find -type d -name CVS`
 - startup Eclipse
 - refresh
 - exit Eclipse
 - startup Eclipse
 - synchronize
HTH

Odi

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Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project

2003-10-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata

Hi,


I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest)
for Jakarta SubProjects...

Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/

I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too.

(What about Struts?)

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I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to
"POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other
projects can re-use.

Any thoughts?


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RE: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
> -Original Message-
> From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 14:59
> To: Jakarta General List
> Cc: Apache Infrastructure
> Subject: Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:57, BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:
> 
> > It is easy to create directories in CVS, but it seems to be 
> very difficult
> > to remove directories.
> 
> No it's not. It's impossible. :-) However, as empty 
> directories will not
> show up when checked out (unless explicitly requested), this is not a
> big problem. However, removing old directories from the CVS 
> server will
> destroy the history of the files that once have been in this 
> directory. 

In the case of the javadoc directories (docs/api...), we are not interested
in being able to recover any of the files.

Most of the docs directory was likewise populated with files that were
generated from xdocs.

> 
> As this is only a problem with the CVS browser, do you really consider
> removing the directories necessary?
> 

Apart from the wasted space (perhaps not a big deal), the empty directories
do seem to affect synchronisation.

I'm using Eclipse 2.1.1, in case that is relevant here.

Although there are no files in the directories in CVS, the same directories
are needed in the local build environment - they are created and populated
when building Javadoc and the manual.

When synchronising, the whole docs tree is checked.

The top-level dir (docs) is in .cvsignore, so that is not flagged as being
out of synch, but all the subdirectories and files are compared, and the
result is that all the contents are shown as being new files.

This does not happen with a directory that is not in CVS (e.g.
printable_docs) - so long as the directory is in the parent .cvsignore, the
whole directory tree is ignored.

I suppose we could rename the docs directory in the build file and whereever
else it is used - but that is a kludge.

S.

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Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
With an update also empty directories will be checkedout unless you
specify -P (eg cvs -q update -dP), to prune empty directories.

Mvgr,
Martin

On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 15:59, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:57, BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:
> 
> > It is easy to create directories in CVS, but it seems to be very difficult
> > to remove directories.
> 
> No it's not. It's impossible. :-) However, as empty directories will not
> show up when checked out (unless explicitly requested), this is not a
> big problem. However, removing old directories from the CVS server will
> destroy the history of the files that once have been in this directory. 
> 
> As this is only a problem with the CVS browser, do you really consider
> removing the directories necessary?
> 
>   Regards
>   Henning
> 
> > 
> > I've tried various combinations of rmdir, cvs remove, cvs commit, but the
> > directories remain in CVS.
> > 
> > Is there a way to (re)move the unwanted directories?
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Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 14:57, BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:

> It is easy to create directories in CVS, but it seems to be very difficult
> to remove directories.

No it's not. It's impossible. :-) However, as empty directories will not
show up when checked out (unless explicitly requested), this is not a
big problem. However, removing old directories from the CVS server will
destroy the history of the files that once have been in this directory. 

As this is only a problem with the CVS browser, do you really consider
removing the directories necessary?

Regards
Henning

> 
> I've tried various combinations of rmdir, cvs remove, cvs commit, but the
> directories remain in CVS.
> 
> Is there a way to (re)move the unwanted directories?
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Re: Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread Ortwin Glück
BAZLEY, Sebastian wrote:
Is there a way to (re)move the unwanted directories?
No, there isn't. You could remove them manually from the file system. 
However you may run into problems when you check out an earlier tag, 
because you have lost the history while moving files to different 
directories.

It should be safe to move the RCS files on the CVS file system in the 
first place and then make a new checkout.

Odi

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Deleting or archiving directories in CVS

2003-10-22 Thread BAZLEY, Sebastian
We've done some re-arranging of the CVS directory structure in
jakarta-jmeter, and some of the directories are now obsolete.

I'd like to remove the directories that we will never use (e.g. javadoc
output) and move the other unused ones to the Attic.

It is easy to create directories in CVS, but it seems to be very difficult
to remove directories.

I've tried various combinations of rmdir, cvs remove, cvs commit, but the
directories remain in CVS.

Is there a way to (re)move the unwanted directories?

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