I think you'll find good news when you read the mailing list. A year ago, I
wouldn't have tried to move Tapestry to Jakarta, because the community
wasn't strong enough, but now it seems like participation is there, with
more people contributing ideas and code. It's also gratifying when users
ask
Well, looking at the docs for SPFC I can see the following differences right
off the bat:
It looks a bit more like Swinglets and the others, in that it uses or mimics
the Swing APIs. You assemble your pages in code, i.e., create a Form
object, add a TextField object and a Button object, and
, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
Benevolent dictatorship. Probably should have expanded on this.
Without
a formal comittee or voting system, I've reserved the right to ultimately
decide what goes into the framework and what doesn't.
Start changing now. I don't know how long it will be before you
for whats its worth +0 from me, and +1 if they start following the
voting rules/etc in advance then move here.
If they do that I will volunteer to help them out with bringing them
into the fold and all, although I'm not a member.
-Andy
On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 09:35, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote
What's troublesome is that the EA they leaked makes these bold claims as the
end-all of Java web application development ... yet the demos they provided
were creaky, poorly executing and poorly written (also, pretty darn ugly!)
Some of the things they want to do are very ambitious, but the APIs
I haven't used JSPWiki, but I have used the Python-based MoinMoin and
really, really like it.
I just took a quick look at JSPWiki and I wouldn't be surprised if it's
feature set is based on MoinMoin (or vice-versa, it's always hard to tell).
It helps with discussions, and provides a temporary
For frameworks, you can't tell how the end-user will be configured. That's
why we switched Tapestry over to commons-logging, so that the end-user can
get the benefits of logging, regardless of whether they are using Log4J,
javax.logging or something else. We also ship Log4J, since we try to
I'll probably get this functionality by operating directly on the Log4J API,
but enabling the page only if Log4J is on the classpath.
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Subject: Re: Logging
, which
is free for open source projects and produces a pretty result (using
Velocity, btw).
http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry/doc/clover/
I'm very proud of the 80% coverage (on 23K NCLOC, 23000 lines of code
excluding comments) and expect to push this to 90% before 2.4 GAs.
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I'm looking for a bit of advice.
People keep asking me how many people are using Tapestry ... and I
honestly have no idea. Insufficient feedback.
Do you have a way of determining the user base of POI? Any guidelines based
on downloads?
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Woops --- that was supposed to be private. But advice is still welcome.
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From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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, saying
something is a web app framework doesn't really say too much, especially
under the shadow of the Servlet API. You could just as easily clump Java,
Objective-C and C++ as C-like languages and complain that people should
chose one and back it. Aint gonna happen
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Well - that's one way to describe it. The other way is
that the JCP
is how innovations are brought to the platform - the innovation was
done before you tried to make a JSR. For example, Jason Hunter is
running a JSR for JDOM. JDOM was done, and the benefits of the
software
with
the capabilities and responsibilities to handle infrastructure issues and
requests don't take five minutes to set up a BugZilla category for these
things. Instead, it is left to endless e-mails, no tracking, nothing gets
done ...
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http
Point taken. I'll pursue this there. I don't expect things to happen at
the snap of my fingers, I just want feedback that issues are being resolved.
I'll make that case at infrastructure.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
I have to figure out all the business with signing the distributions. On my
todo list.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
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From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March
eb site and additional examples.
[2] identify the initial source from which the project is to
be populated
The project currently resides on the SourceForge
(http://tapestry.sf.net).
My wife says I sometimes code in my sleep. Now I know what I've been up-to
:-)
Gotta watch that
Currently, new Tapestry bugs are all assigned to me, personally.
I would prefer that new bugs be assigned to the Tapestry developer list.
Is there a way to do this cleanly in BugZilla, or do I create a fake user
([EMAIL PROTECTED])?
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web
. Is there a way around this, or must I prostrate myself
before infrastructure?
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:07
portions of the Vlib source code in the book? Do I
have to maintain that long ASL copyright message in the listings or just
provide a general notice that all the examples as covered under the ASL? Is
this usage covered under some kind of fair use clause (or generally
accepted practice)?
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Howard M
I'm tending towards the argument that if you can convince someone who has the right
access to update
the vendors.xml
page, then you deserve to be on the list.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
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is to be listed
on the vendors
page, start now and see results soon.
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want to check out a bit about Gump as well ... I can think of one person who will
probably veto you
until you are integrated into Gump. It's *exceptionally* painful to work with Gump at
the moment,
but ultimately worth it.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http
Did anything every happen on this? I remember ACO sending out a message, but I don't
know if it
every made it to a vote. I'd really like to pursue this, because of my instatiable
craving for
power.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org
Tapestry 3.0-beta-2 is now available.
This release fixes a number of bugs, is compatible with Jakarta FileUpload 1.0, and
has some
significant improvements related to localization.
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
I'm moniroting the avalon dev list.
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http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
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I prefer to see Hivemind established as a community (as far
as I know Howard
is the only member of the community ATM) before exploring
as you say. I see
no reason to deprive Howard of the opportunity to establish
Hivemind and
build a community.
That's what is, in fact, surprising
receives it?
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://howardlewisship.com
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OK, that's step 1 ... what are the remaining steps? How do we proceed from here?
Action items:
Restore HiveMind home page
Restore HiveMind CVS
Resubmit HiveMind proposal
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Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http
I guess this is as much of a notification as we get? In any case, the grant appears to
have been
recorded.
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Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://howardlewisship.com
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number of code changes trapped on my home
workstation, waiting
for a CVS server to become available. This includes changing the license to ASL 2.0
and changing the
root package from org.apache.commons.hivemind to org.apache.hivemind.
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-logging.
HiveMind makes use of the Javassist bytecode generation library, which is available
under the MPL
(Mozilla public license).
(2) Identify the initial source for the package
The initial code base has been developed by Howard M. Lewis Ship within the Jakarta
Commons
incubator.
http
[X] +1 I support this proposal (BINDING)
[ ] -1 I don't support this proposal
[ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal
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Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://howardlewisship.com
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working out.
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to imply anything or mandate anything or create anything that isn't already there.
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Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://howardlewisship.com
The second release candidate for Tapestry 3.0 is now available.
This release fixes a few bugs, most notably, problems deploying the example
applications.
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Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://howardlewisship.com
Tapestry 3.0-rc-3 is ready for download from the standard places. This release fixes
some bugs
discovered in the prior release candidates, and includes some documentation updates.
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
Tapestry 3.0 final release is now available. Please see the Jakarta Home page for
more details!
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
Creator, HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com
This is a good subject w.r.t. Tapestry and HiveMind as well. The previous restriction
(ASL 1.1) was
that we could not even code against their packages. Under ASL 2.0, we merely can't
repackage their
JARs?
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry
I've been asked to mirror the Tapestry and HiveMind libraries, but haven't been able
to find docs on
the web about how to do so.
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
Creator, HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com
Does anyone know where the (presumably) Photoshop files are for the Apache logo (with
the feather)?
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Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com
The first alpha release of HiveMind (http://jakarta.apache.org/hivemind/) 1.1
is now available.
HiveMind is a simple, elegant, powerful general-purpose infrastructure for Java
applications. This
early preview release includes service(and configuration) visibility, explicit
module dependencies,
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