While this is an excellent offer because your tool looks very useful, I
think I will personally decline it for the following reasons:
#1. Contribution: Your offer tries, but does not really bide well with the
open source world. You are offering free use of your tool to open source
developers,
on 12/15/01 2:20 PM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think allowing each project to define what is acceptable is the way it's
working now and it's probably best to leave it that way.
+1
I can see what Kevin is saying by establishing a 'baseline' though I think
that getting agreement
on 12/18/01 11:02 AM, Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following page on the jakarta site refers to a second page where
the email list subscription info exists, but does not provide a link to it.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
The above page should in the last
on 12/18/01 11:02 AM, Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following page on the jakarta site refers to a second page where
the email list subscription info exists, but does not provide a link to it.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
The above page should in the last
on 12/27/01 1:03 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why don't you just use an RSS aggregator. Then you can do a search for
'jakarta' and create your own newsletter.
Kevin
How does that solve the problem*?
*the problem is volunteers, not technology. 'you' is putting me or
on 12/28/01 2:03 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I saw a mail go by a month or so ago whereby a short form of the
licence was allowable in source files that refers the reader to a
LICENSE.txt file?
James
I have said it about a thousand times...it isn't ok. There is
on 1/2/02 6:13 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the repost, I realized that I'd incorrectly labeled the
post a reply (re:) and thought some folks may have not seen it because
of that. A quick update, POI is the #10 project on sourceforge this
morning.
It sounds like
on 1/2/02 6:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+if (runtime != null)
+depend.setAttribute(runtime, runtime.getValue());
All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in
conformance to the Code Conventions for the Java Programming
Here is yet another solution to this problem...
http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html
Once again, I already did 99% of the work. If you guys would like to help
keep it up to date and maybe link it from the Jakarta homepage (or copy the
data from there), then that would be great. I
on 1/3/02 5:31 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly, ignoring M$ doesn't make it go away. I would say the opposite:
there are tons of companies that base their document systems on M$
software and would like to move to a more open world but they simply
can't afford loosing
on 1/3/02 10:15 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As Andrew remarks, it goes quite well with Lucene. It opens the door
to interesting synergies like:
Slide + Lucene + HTML+PDF+Word+Excel = indexed repository of the
most popular
It is amazing to me...with all the discussion about coding styles and
following them, we still have people committing code that doesn't follow
what rules we do have...
on 1/3/02 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: cvs commit:
on 1/4/02 8:05 AM, Bob Jamison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jakarta.apache.org != Sun
That isn't the comparison that we are making here.
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on 1/4/02 9:14 AM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can agree with Paulo, POI is about generating/reading documents with a
particular foramt, and that is very useful to jakarta and xml. I
believe that if it came to Apache, if would belong under Jakarta, being
a Java tool, and more
on 1/4/02 12:00 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2) Related to POI. As long as they know the current state of Jakarta and
can make an informed decision, and meet all the criteria described in
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html, then they have my +1.
After all, what good
on 1/4/02 4:20 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They aren't even comparable, are they?
Of course not.
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
When DVSL is integrated into Turbine's presentation layer and people are
using it, the comparison will definitely be Cocoon2 vs.
on 1/4/02 4:14 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That makes me wonder about the real causes of this whole fucking mess
and jakarta is fucked up today feelings of yours...
Of course. I forgot. I'm always wrong. Sorry.
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Conform to the recently agreed (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]) convention
of including the Apache License inside the JAR file, at
META-INF/LICENSE.txt
How about documenting that convention on the website?
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on 1/5/02 3:02 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look closely, Xerces 2 is the designated successor to *both* Xerces 1 and
Crimson. The developers *are* working together. I won't pretend that
everything is 100% smooth sailing, but significant progress is being made.
Yea...just like
on 1/6/02 1:45 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon, I presume that you are talking about the subject, and not the text you
are quoting. In any case, a framework independent validator seems to me to
be valuable a reusable component. If one or both can't be restructed to be
framework
on 1/7/02 2:45 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:33, Ceki Gulcu wrote:
Peter,
So are you proposing to become a log4j committer?
Would there be a point to that?
sarcasm
Exactly. Collaboration on a single logging tool would be a terrible idea.
/sarcasm
-jon
on 1/7/02 8:55 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Be forewarned that the Apache tradition is to allow people with enough
fire in their belly to tackle a particular problem that is important
to them the freedom to do so. If the problems you see are something
that you feel need
on 1/7/02 9:03 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing is for sure: both Gump and Forrest want to go in this
direction: provide solid technological infrastructure in order for
efforts to communicate, interoperate, share visions and exchange code,
ideas and solutions.
If
on 1/7/02 10:00 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I am seeing are the same signs Sam sees:
Sam wrote:
In my, admittedly biased, perspective, I see significant improvement in
terms of community over the course of the past eleven months or so. For
starters, the following
on 1/7/02 10:51 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, all Gump shows us is that projects have managed to
quit breaking each others interfaces. Gump shows us that documents such as
this:
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/common
the archives.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cross-pollination
on 1/7/02 9:03 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing is for sure: both Gump
on 1/7/02 11:17 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+1
I believe that if we continue to provide an useful structure, then the
community will continue to build itself, in the way the community sees
fit.
We have grown to the size where we don't have structure anymore because no
one
on 1/7/02 11:27 AM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Sam gets hit by a bus tomorrow, who would be willing to step up and take
over the PMC chairmanship?
I should also add that my vote would be for #1. Geir and #2. Ceki.
The reason is that they seem to be about the only two
on 1/7/02 11:34 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not like everything would grind to a halt.
That isn't my point and you didn't answer my question.
:-)
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on 1/7/02 12:44 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think many folks on
the list aren't listening to each other let alone to someone from the
outer circle.
That is my complaint about not just this list, but the entire project. We
have people like Ted and Craig who are perfectly
on 1/7/02 2:20 PM, Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We should be careful turning away projects as they may end up as GPL
spit.
Now that is the funniest reason I have heard for accepting projects here!
:-) Thanks. I needed a good laugh.
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on 1/7/02 4:23 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if the peers agree with this process.
My opinion is that there are to many peers in the process and that is what
is breaking Jakarta. This wasn't a problem until now. We are starting to
explode under our own ever growing weight.
Jakarta
on 1/7/02 4:26 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which projects are those?
Can you really compare them - and their community - with Jakarta?
Jboss's success seems to be one project. I'm actually glad they went to
sourceforge...they would have struggled to survive here...
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on 1/7/02 5:11 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is that question important???
Paulo
I'm curious. Is it now not permitted to ask a question out of curiosity?
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on 1/7/02 5:41 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I was much younger I used to go on BBSes and post Which is better
Amiga or IBM? and Why not just use a Mac? to see the fires rage. As
I grew up I found more productive ways to spend my time. Code
formatting is subjective.
on 1/7/02 5:10 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see you crying a lot over this but no POSITIVE initiative.
That is because I don't see a way to fix the problems and I'm not sure I
have the energy to actually go through with it anymore.
I haven't seen you give any positive
on 1/7/02 7:30 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Jon is undervaluing Jakarta because he helped creating it and
he is comparing what it is with what he dreamed it would be. Things tend
not to work according to our high expectations.
I'm sure that is very true.
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on 1/7/02 7:19 PM, Kief Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite these problems, I think it'd be worth having around.
Then take the reigns and just do it the way that you think it should be
done. No need for a proposal.
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on 1/7/02 7:27 PM, Tim Vernum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the project won't deal with gump nags, and can't keep their
builds from breaking then they probably won't fit into Jakarta.
Bingo. Great point.
However, forcing a project to have gump nags is not something Sam is willing
to dictate.
on 1/7/02 7:59 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about just a version of this form:
http://search.apache.org/
or a link to it???
Take a look at my previous posting (the crushed thread) for more
details. It can be made (hidden fields I love you) to search any
sub-domain
on 1/7/02 8:10 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with Sam here - you have to buy into the Gump nags and understand
the value, or you are going to think it's an intrusive fussyness, which it
is, actually :)
Or you could think of it this way...
Part of the 'privilege' of
on 1/7/02 9:05 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No karma
Submit a patch.
, no clue on how to change a Jakarta web page!
RTFM
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html
Oh well, Geir did your work for you, so you don't learn anything.
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Subject: email issues..
hi,
i suspect that a recent attempt to block out spam
on my mail server might have
on 1/8/02 3:13 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so would collaboration on a web framework
Pete
This happened a long time ago (May 2000) on the PMC list:
When Craig originally proposed Struts, I -1'd it. He assured me that he
would be willing to collaborate together on Turbine and
I want to remove my name from this page:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/preFAQ.html
I nominate Paulo to put his name there instead so that he can start
contributing more than just being a pain in my ass. Is that cool?
-jon
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on 1/8/02 11:57 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd say it should be the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good idea. Done.
and if anyone, including Paulo, want to help out with the Webmaster
emails, that would be great.
Maybe you will get lucky and get a volunteer.
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on 1/9/02 4:27 AM, Ceki Gulcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
Here is a patch jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail.xml, the source for the
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html page.
The patch contains a few corrections, a sligt re-organisation and some
stylistic changes. I think it
on 1/9/02 6:49 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ted Husted wrote:
I think on a continuing basis, Committers should update the copyright
notice to include the current year whenever they update a source file.
This will happen most often in the early part of a year, but should
happen
on 1/10/02 1:16 AM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL!
Are you taking these guys seriously?
=;o)
No, since Jon didn't participate
to the thread ;)
I heard that if you shorten the names of your variables and methods down to
single letters, the execution speed increases by a factor
on 1/12/02 2:07 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The site update system we have in place is actually quite sweet (thanks,
Jon!).
Thanks for the compliment. One of the first that I have gotten about the
system.
Most people can only complain.
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on 1/13/02 12:50 PM, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i find jakarta-site2.html a little bit confusing. so - as requested on the
page - i'm providing some feedback :)
Thanks for your feedback robert.
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on 1/16/02 11:27 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The number of PMC seats will be set at seven. Annually, all seven seats
will be up for renewal. The ASF board will be asked to provide a person or
persons to administer the nominations and a subsequent ballot. The
administrator(s) will
on 1/17/02 3:19 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayQuestionAnswer/ac
tion/SetAll/project_id/2/faq_id/36/topic_id/203/question_id/781
or (same thing)
+1
I sure do give Andrew credit for perseverance. This also makes me feel
confident that he will do what it takes to live under Jakarta.
-jon
on 1/17/02 11:45 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proposal for POI - A Jakarta Subproject
version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002
(0) rationale
on 1/18/02 10:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm trying to get in touch with the Jakarta PMC to find out what the status is
of accepting Daniel Savarese's ORO NetComponents to be part of Jakarta.
It is up to him to submit a proposal.
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on 1/21/02 4:10 PM, dion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason the source element isn't rendered as a box is that the
site.vsl expects the source to be a direct child of the subsection
No it doesn't. It expects it to be a child of section. For an example,
look at
on 1/21/02 11:23 PM, dion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me rephrase that. It expects it to be a direct child of either section or
subsection . See site.vsl line 143.
Exactly. It was designed that way. What is your problem again?
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No need to CC me, I'm on the list...
on 1/22/02 1:20 AM, dion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 1/21/02 11:23 PM, dion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me rephrase that. It expects it to be a direct child of either section
or
subsection . See site.vsl line 143.
Exactly. It was designed that way.
on 1/22/02 10:43 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do and will do it in a femtosecond (starting Thursday, of course :) if
people think it's ok to do so. There is little risk, as the xml content
doesn't change, of course.
And will move it back if people don't like it.
As I
on 1/29/02 4:42 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Example? Stefano pushed to get POI in, and there was *huge* pushback.
At least heavy from Jon, as I remember it.
I wasn't about to accept a half assed proposal. Is there anything wrong with
that?
The POI team took our feedback,
on 1/29/02 8:52 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes the reasons an implementation is lousy (or at least, not
appropriate for the task at hand) are non-technical. Freemarker was a
wonderful idea with a GPL implementation. Hence velocity was born.
Just to be clear...
on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with
| something that has no activity? Should Jserv die because the last
| release was forever ago? I think not. Jserv is a production server
| that lives in many
on 1/29/02 12:18 PM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not view me as an outsider, trying to use your cool stuff, not finding
my way around, wading through small and big projects alike..
My point is that there is no such thing as an 'outsider'. You can become
just as involved as I
on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to target users
that *HAVE* to have exchange because they:
1) *HAVE* to use Outlook.
2) *HAVE* to have real groupware capabilities (calendaring, etc.)
3) Refuse to give up
on 2002.1.30 4:31 PM, Bojan Smojver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC.
Geir is current PMC member. His dedication to Jakarta projects,
especially Velocity, is undoubted. His support levels on Velocity
project are unsurpassed, with response
on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about what we want. Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect. It just
seems like we should be
Hey all,
I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC nomination
and do not want to be included in the voting for the next election.
I have been involved with Java Apache/Jakarta since Sept 1996 and I think
that it is time for me to move on from being politically responsible
Just to be clear, I'm not leaving Jakarta entirely, you will still have to
put up with my bullshit every now and then...I'm just not going to
participate in the PMC politics any longer...
-jon
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on 2/3/02 2:00 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you guys check out codecon - http://www.codecon.org
It is going to be held at the DNA Lounge (and I will be speaking about
Reptile)...
Yea, that sounds like a fun event...
hm... how long before Jon hosts an ApacheCon ??? ;)
on 2/4/02 4:23 PM, Eitan Suez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the dbdoc gui is jsp/template-based, which makes
it much easier to maintain, revise, and/or enhance.
To bad you didn't use Velocity, then I would believe your claim.
:-)
Anyway, when are you going to make this cool tool available as
on 2/5/02 10:55 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand the porting tool already exists. See
http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualj/jump/. Yet the hordes still remain.
- Sam Ruby
My favorite quote:
The Java Language Conversion Assistant has been developed independently by
on 1/30/02 4:15 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about what we want. Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect. It just
seems like we should be
With a link back to our position paper...
http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/02/13/osjava.html
It is so sad that Sun is slowly killing support for Java. What a way to
shoot yourself in the foot.
-jon
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on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, Vladimir Bossicard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I haven't found an 'Apache' manual.
Because it would take a HUGE amount of effort to create and maintain a
manual like that. The people who know the manual don't have the itch to
create the manual because there is always
on 2/20/02 9:22 AM, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 2/20/02 8:35 AM, Vladimir Bossicard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I haven't found an 'Apache' manual.
Because it would take a HUGE amount of effort to create and maintain a
manual like that. The people who know the manual
I don't think you understood what I said...so let me repeat...
You give me a TOC and I will review and comment on it.
:-)
-jon
on 2/20/02 9:50 AM, Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon,
Give us a TOC for what you think might be a good starting point.
That said, I will do my
on 2/20/02 10:03 AM, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not start it yourself and anyone can suggest changes.
I love it when people 'get it'. :-)
On the other hand, why not start it myself. Something like this:
You kick ass. Note that the majority of your bullet
on 2/21/02 4:31 AM, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
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Now, including the valuable contributions of Marc and Jon, the annotated
Apache manual TOC would look like this.
Now, format it as an xdoc .xml file @see
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html and lets run
It really bothers me that people think that this is a forum for announcing
their new OSS efforts...*especially* ones that are under the GPL.
I don't really care how helpful their project might be...this isn't the
forum for it.
Totally un-cool. Don't abuse this resource. general@jakarta isn't
on 2/26/02 7:20 AM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 7 people with the largest number of votes (in alphabetical order):
Stefan Bodewig
Craig McClanahan
Diane Holt
Conor MacNeill
Geir Magnusson Jr.
Costin
on 2/28/02 4:54 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to do it but someone *sough* sanders *cough* needs to change thier
umask because they updated your website and forgot to make it world writeable
;)
Not 'world' writeable...it should be 'group' writeable.
Scott, put this in
I would love to host JakartaOne at Studio Z. I think it would be a lot of
fun.
For free. *
However, I do need to know the day/time/length of the event as well as what
other things will be needed (chairs/tables/whatever). Unless some people
here volunteers, I can look into getting some great
Ok, how does Tue, March 26th sound?
If that works, then I need you guys to pick a time range...
-jon
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on 3/4/02 12:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we do that, we can do something technical as well in the Covalent space?
I don't think that would be a good idea because then you would be asking
people to travel all over town.
Just do the event in StudioZ...we have two
on 3/6/02 7:40 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My only concern is that I since it appears to be a short schlep, you can't
just run over from java1 to jak1 and back - it sounds like you would have to
commit to go and stay..
It is a 5 minute taxi ride and there are TONS of
on 3/6/02 4:52 PM, Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would love to see a document describes the Apache Software License, the
philosophy behind it and why we think the ASL is a good thing.
Probably suggesting more content for this page would be a good idea:
Well, given that there is only 19 days until the 26th and given that I
haven't seen any discussion about JakartaOne other than some 'ideas' that
people keep throwing out there (and no actual committee being formed to
handle the planning and no decisions being made), it appears to me that no
one
on 3/7/02 1:52 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for the rest, if you could give some indication of what would be
necessary for us to do - do we have to arrange for anything in the social
space such as refreshments, or is that available from StudioZ?
I need to know expected
on 3/12/02 7:05 AM, Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So we did, and here is the result
You didn't find licenses for a lot of software that has licenses...instead
of saying 'no license' which implies that it does not have a license, you
should have stated ('could not find a
on 3/12/02 4:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only possible conclusion is that software shouldn't be redistributed
without a lawyer checking and aproving every included license, and
we need a list of licenses that are acceptable for inclusion on
packages we distribute (
on 3/12/02 5:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that the list should be reversed - i.e. what licences
are _allowed_ and verified by a lawyer.
And we have 2 issues - what jars are allowed in CVS, and what jars
are allowed in the binary software we distribute.
on 3/13/02 9:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Implementing a published API/specification have nothing to do with
reverse-engineering and I don't think it is prohibited.
Nope. It isn't. I re-implemented a BEA specification (dbKona) based on their
publicly available javadoc's.
I like the title. :-)
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0313.1
-jon
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on 3/14/02 7:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jon, I believe their vote was to allow the proposal to move on to public
review stage. And I believe this is the _right_ thing to do.
Why bother? In other words, if after the public review stage, it all ends up
changing again,
on 3/14/02 6:06 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to continue to help on this so far I guess I got this as the
top story on www.javalobby.org (my local hometown java site).
The overwhelming number of clueless idiot troll postings on that site is
depressing and makes me
on 3/14/02 6:09 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it be a good protocol to put a LICENSE file in
.jar files under META-INF ?
Sure.
*poof* it is now done in all of the Jakarta projects.
Don't you like magic like that?
-jon
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on 3/15/02 5:18 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any suggestions for a good restaurant anyone?
There are a bazillion good restaurants in SF. You just pick the style of
food you want and I can list off about 100 for each style.
Also, I'm still willing to show people the club,
on 3/17/02 7:01 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually we use centepede/cocoon. But wow. I just checked the new
stylesheets with NS 4.7x and boy it sure does look weird. I'm reporting
this and hopefully it will be fixed soon.
Admittedly, nearly everyone on the project
on 3/17/02 8:17 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Granted, Anakia is
faster and seems to work nicely. I'm not keen on learning to write vsl
files in the near and immediate future, maybe one day (I hate writing
xsl files enough). As far as the page not working in Netscape,
on 3/19/02 8:36 AM, Daniel Rall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pete Chown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Daniel Rall wrote:
Does the bytecode interpreter [from gcj] handle class loading yet?
Yes. You can invoke the bytecode interpreter directly with gij if you
don't want to compile. Gij will
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