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As explained before.
> Only subscribed to 1 project. If consolidation on dev happens then
> there will be no good way to filter out emails I don't care about.
Same here.
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> Care to elaborate a bit?
I'd argue that for the people who care it's no big deal to subscribe
to the various lists. So tuning in is no problem, tuning out once
consolidated indeed is. It's an all-or-nothing. How is oversight
better when everyone (or at least all PMC members) are subscribed to
al
>> >>We currently have 8 active development lists at Jakarta, each devoted
>> >>to a subproject. I've been subscribed to all for a while and based on
>> >>my observations and the overall benefits of doing so, I think its time
>> >>to consolidate them into a single development list at Jakarta.
>
On 21.06.2007, at 00:57, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Hi everyone,
The new Commons TLP was established today, with Torsten Curdt as
Vice President.
...so where do we start with the TLP move is the question :)
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so this thread died again without a conclusion or resulution.
My take with as few words as possible:
* push for active project to go TLP
* jakarta.apache.org - the portal to all java projects at apache.
Just a shell - but let's keep the brand. Not necessarily a PMC
required. (Although a
+1
On 08.05.2007, at 19:20, Henri Yandell wrote:
Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect.
However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it
move to TLP.
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution
Please add your name if you're a Commons de
On 10.03.2007, at 16:13, Torsten Curdt wrote:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40577
ups ...wrong bug :) but anyway!
How can I add new version to bugzilla? Who has admin rights on
bugzilla?
...thanks to Martin Cooper all done now :)
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http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=40577
How can I add new version to bugzilla? Who has admin rights on bugzilla?
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On 10/16/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+1 from me.
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On 10/15/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> AFAIK the policy is still that three votes of PMC members are
> required. In other words, may I point you to
>
> http://marc.theaimsg
+1
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Would it be possible to have it on Monday or Tuesday or is there another
firm date for BOFs ?
I reckon let's better not make the official BOF on Mon/Tue as probably
most people (users) arrive on Wed. We should give them a chance to
join us as well ...but we can still go for a beer/food on Mon/Tu
Cool :) Let's do this at dinner, since there are only 2 of us ;)
Hehehe :-)
...from experience I am sure a few more people will show up.
So I reckon we should schedule it as an usual BOF ...but doesn't
mean that's gonna exclude food or beers. Let's leave it up to the
"community dynamics" ;-)
c
+1 cool bananas ..will be there
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On 8/22/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi fellow Jakartians,
I welcome everyone going to Apachecon to the Jakarta BOF (which I just
registered in the Wiki,
assuming that is sufficient to have the BOF take place).
I just put
> Why that combination? ...feels quite unnatural to me - I am sure so it will
> for the users.
It's our list of small largely inactive subprojects. We know that none of
those are going to go TLP, and their dev lists are quiet by an order of
magnitude compared to an inactive TLP potential project
The problem with moving Commons up is that when you look at where Jakarta
needs to go, and when you look at where Commons generally is now; they are
the same places - and it's hard to distinguish between the focuses.
Hm... interesting... funnily I have never seen it like that before.
Always had
> But if you argue into that direction -no matter how often this has
> been discussed already- I would rather question the idea of an
> umbrella PMC then... (*ducks*)
Time and energy to express the ideas you have in that direction ?
Let's try :-)
IMO it's quite awkward to have oversight over a
Just a few comments (as I am a bit late)
At Cocoon every committer can join the PMC by just asking for it. The
idea is that committer do care and shape the project anyway. If you
don't care enough about the project - why would you be a committer? We
are quite open and were working out most of the
More worrying, it sounds like while ecs/oro/regexp have someone holding a
janitor role and looking after things, Slide might not.
However I do think that there are quite some projects relying on it.
Maybe worth checking who is using slide (gump?)
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Guys,
There are rumours people are interested in a beer chitchat BOF kind of thing :)
Say tonight 8pm at the bar?
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For additi
...if you are using BCEL it would be great if you could give the
latest RC a test run.
We would like to release BCEL 5.2 ASAP but we are still lacking some feedback.
http://people.apache.org/~tcurdt/bcel/rc2/
http://vafer.org/blog/20060429164701
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> However Jakarta-sandbox is
> SCOPELESS. Go have a scopeless sandbox on sourceforge IMO. If you want
> to start a whole NEW project then do that in the incubator IMO.
Why on sourceforge - why not on our infrastructure?
What the difference for you?
You want every tiny (commons) library go thro
On 15.03.2006, at 10:10, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 3/14/06, Torsten Curdt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...regarding the forums - na. What does that help?
Judging from myself, users don't like to have to subscribe to mailing
lists, especially when they don't need the list
i like the idea of tagging emails better: a single list with cool
server
side filtering and metrics. we don't have the technology for this
yet so
i'm willing to see the mailing lists split so long as people would be
willing to consider coming back if it every arrives...
I was just consideri
BCEL - In need of a bugfix release, design-wise ASM is preferrable.
Almost there :) ...still a few bugs to close
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On 05.03.2006, at 20:21, Henri Yandell wrote:
I started to write a long email on the problems in Jakarta, on
umbrellas, on the lack of a Jakarta community and existence only of
subcommunities and on how it should be "there is no Jakarta Xxxx,
you are members of Jakarta - not a subproject
+1 let's kill it ...wiki would be alright though
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On 21.10.2005, at 00:03, Henri Yandell wrote:
So, period of comments now over, let's go ahead and vote on the
creation of a Jakarta Subproject named Http Components with the
following initial charter:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-httpclient/NewProjectCharter
[x] +1
[ ] -1
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I help manage tomcat-users and tomcat-dev, both high volume lists.
We use the following policy for both lists:
- anyone can subscribe
- subscriptions are not moderated
- subscribers can post
- posts from non-subscribers are rejected
This works pretty well, the only things tending to go wrong
given that there's a rising tide of demand to make all lists
subscriber
only, i think that this would be better than simply sending all
unsubscribed posts to /dev/null.
+1
i have personal itches about some of the required technologies and i
know some of the spam assassin guys are keen on s
This might have to do something with the timestamp resolution of
the filesystem. Not every filesystem have a resolution of
milliseconds but some higher factor.
Yeah, Brett already pointed offlist me on that.
It gets ever worse e.g 10ms for FAT on create but 2sec for write
(http://msdn.mi
Guys,
I hope this is not too OT for this list but I
am running out of ideas. What could be possibly
be wrong with the following piece of code:
import java.io.File;
public class test {
public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
File dir = new File("dir");
dir.mkdir();
we're moving towards insisting on pgp keys so we could check and
moderate through all signed apache.org email without danger.
You mean forcing all subscribers to use gpg
Although I love the idea of forcing people to
sign their mails
http://vafer.org/blog/tcurdt/archives/93.html
http://
Hi,
I've been a moderator for the bcel-dev@jakarta.apache.org and
bcel-user@jakarta.apache.org for a few months now. In that time there
have been 2 valid emails from people who weren't subscribed, and a few
thousand spam mails.
I'm rather tired of being a human spam filter for the mailing list
Finish SVN migrations (Turbine-3, POI, JMeter, Cactus)
Turbine-3 should go from CVS to the graveyard. No detour through SVN
please.
AFAIU (not totally sure) all projects need to migrated to CVS
by the end of the year because CVS is meant to go away. If we
want it to be still available we need
I have a big problem with putting people's names beside projects
and components on a public web page. Besides being yet another
thing that needs to be kept up to date, it will only encourage
people to contact the developers directly, instead of using the
mailing lists. From my own perspecti
>>Probably needs to be discussed.
>
>
> please, please no sub-sub-projects!
...just a theoretical option.
But I guess you are right ;)
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> Pardon my ignorance, but if Web were a subproject under Jakarta
> Commons, could Web itself have subprojects?
AFAIK there is no project that has such subproject.
...but that does not mean it's completely impossible.
Probably needs to be discussed.
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> What's wrong with Webapp Commons?
Commons = Jakarta Commons
...for a whole bunch of people.
As long as it is not under the
Jakarta Commons umbrella like
"Jakarta Commons Web" I would
be clearly against using the
word "commons".
Actually if it is meant to be
java only it could even fit well
in
> The most obvious would be CommonsWeb or WebCommons, as the general user
> community could link the concept to commons easily enough. However,
> there is a danger that it could be confusing precisely because of that.
As long as it is not under the
umbrella of the Jakarta Commons
project I would a
> Please, lets calm the things down.
> Henri will write an email to SD magazine, and the earth
> will still spin tomorrow.
...that's an excellent ending for this discussion :)
Thanks
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> Hi Kate,
>
> I'd like to thank SD/Jolt on behalf of the Jakarta community for the
> JOLT "Productivity Winner" award for Tomcat 5.0. Media recognition of
> the work the Tomcat community puts in is always very welcome.
>
> I'm also writing to let you know about a [serious] error on your JOLT
> p
>>As a matter of fact we have quite some committers in our
>>community that are sponsored by the companies they are
>>working for. Who is able to define whether who is the
>>"leading" or "main" contributor? I would not want to risk
>>picking the wrong one and pissing off other contributors. So
> I think continuing with the current attitude would only lead my company
> to reevaluate its involvement in ASF projects, and I could not really
> blame them if they did. Of course, this may be what some people here
> seek (hopefully, it is not and it's just my paranoia at work).
I am sure the co
Sounds good +1
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Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Tim,
>
> This is a *VERY* slippery slope. All of us are committers at Apache on
> a personal basis and our employment is no bearing on our committer
> status. Remember, they (or anyone for that matter) else can fork
> Tomcat (and call it by any name they want and do whate
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I share your concerns.
Same here! ...there was a poll about how many
active committers are around on bcel-dev.
IIRC *one* responded. Other than that there
are just users around waiting for patches being
applied or just lurking.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bcel-dev&m=11029
Any voting needed for the sandbox components?
To get in to the Sanbox, no. To get out again, to Commons Proper, yes. ;-)
ok :-)
Otherwise it would be great if I could get
access to the sandbox so I can move the stuff
over.
I'll make a request to have you added to the jakarta group.
great! thanks,
Any Apache committer can have sandbox karma just for the asking.
The only complication is that the committer will need to get the jakarta
unix group, so it'll take us a little bit longer to add karma.
Any voting needed for the sandbox components?
Otherwise it would be great if I could get
access
Hey, folks!
Over at cocoon we have some code that might be worth
sharing on jakarta commons. So I was wondering
if the sandbox is open to any committer or only to
jakarta committers? (which I am not) I heard
different stories...
I factored out our javaflow (java continuations)
implementation and a
I am probably ignorant, but what are continuations?
Hope these links help to get the picture...
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/flow/continuations.html
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/flow/
http://vafer.org/blog/tcurdt/archives/48.html
http://vafer.org/blog/tcurdt/archives/50.ht
Just curious:
Why is this not developed under the Apache Incubator?
Is there a reason for the codehaus move?
We already have a first implementation
based on java byte code transformation
(via BCEL) in Cocoon. But this initiative
is aiming for a JSR that hopefully give us
native support - one day...
We'd like to invite everyone who is interested
to join our initiative on codehaus.org. We are
aiming to write and submit a JSR for native java
continuations support inside the JVM.
We are currently looking for people that have
any kind of expertise in the continuations field
or just like to support
Is there a particular reason why the jelly release is
hosted on ibiblio.org? (No nagging - just curious)
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>>Does anyone know if there is an Apache wide license for
>>optimzeit? IIRC I heard someone say something like that
>
There isn't one.. I forwarded the mail exchange I had with a Borland
manager to jakarta pmc about a year ago or something, don't know if it
got picked up.
Hm... maybe JProbe then?
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> > What about NS4 and IE4 and earlier? Well ... read
> > http://www.alistapart.com/stories/netscape/ then come back to talk
> > about
> > it (maybe off these lists if this is considered OT).
>
> h, what do others think on this?
I have to admit that this article is quite true.
And we don't ha
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