Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

on 11/2/01 12:03 PM, "horwat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/blueprints/learn.html >From that, I found this: "Accelerate read-only data access by not using enterprise beans." I love it. :

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nt: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop... > on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and is > > instead a multi-faceted

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They have: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/blueprints/learn.html Justy - Original Message - From: "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better P

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- Original Message - From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop... > on 10/31/01 5:41 PM, "horwat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (SNIP cutt

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From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 11/2/01 3:13 AM, "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and is > >> instead a multi-faceted exam

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On 11/2/01 3:13 AM, "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and is >> instead a multi-faceted example of the possibilities offered by j2ee. i >> suppose t

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on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and is > instead a multi-faceted example of the possibilities offered by j2ee. i > suppose they could rework it and create a benchmark out of it... > > microsof

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are 'doing right'), spread FUD. matt - Original Message - From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop... > on 10/31/01 5:41 PM, "horwat&qu

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on 10/31/01 5:41 PM, "horwat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The J2EE PetStore application was created as an educational tool to showcase > features available in a J2EE architecture. True, it has many more EJB's then > required in a normal application but these EJB's are meant to be examples of > h

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-- From: "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop... > http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp > > Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from

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From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 10/31/01 6:45 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> It would be interesting

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Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Needless to say, Scarab is fully OSS, performs quite well and the code is a > very nice example of how to write an extremely complex web app. > > (Just to repeat myself) _I_WANT_IT_NOW_TO_REPLACE_THAT_STINK_OF_BUGZILLA_ (B

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On 10/31/01 6:45 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> It would be interesting to have a Java competition - trying the various >>> differe

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One of the central points was there was less code. : http://www.gotdotnet.com/team/compare/petshop.aspx It would be easy with Orion, EJBDoclet and a decent WAR file compatible page mark-up technology to beat the figures posted. Though not Apache, we should not discount SiteMesh.( http://www.

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FYI, Intel did a comparison of PetStore written using XMLC and no EJBs. Check out the following performance analysis done at the Intel performance labs that shows the PetStore app running 5x-10x faster on Lutris Enhydra than BEA, etc when implemented using XMLC instead of JSPs and using simple da

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on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be interesting to have a Java competition - trying the various > different techniques, tools and frameworks and seeing how each of them stack > up to .NET. Comparing code complexity, performance etc. > > e.g. with beans

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From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on 10/31/01 1:19 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp > > > > Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from a quick look at > > the source code, it seems MS achieve their perfor

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on 10/31/01 1:19 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp > > Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from a quick look at > the source code, it seems MS achieve their performance gains by not using > EJBs :-) Ok. Now that

[OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from a quick look at the source code, it seems MS achieve their performance gains by not using EJBs :-) I wonder what the figures would look like if the PetStore were implemented along similar