move user lists to mail.html from mail2.html? [WAS Re: mail2.html -> mail.html]

2003-07-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 02:15 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Thank you for the comment, Robert. TO tell the truth, my original motivation to arise this issue was concering to the upcoming newsletter. I published the final "Jakarta Newsletter" in early this month and I found I made some mista

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
t site/mail2.html. Thank you all who participated in this issue for the comments! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------- On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:17:40 +0100 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) robert burrell

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
jakarta came round to having two pages for mail subscriptions after having years of regular problems with people joining the lists who had no idea about how to behave. the pages are user unfriendly but the old solution (ie publically and vocally humiliating posters on list) was worse (since it

RE: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-22 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi Tetsuya, What is wrong with the pages as they are? There are thousands of people who have subscribed to the lists using the current method, and luckily there are not too many misdirected posts. Furthermore, a search for "jakarta mailing lists" http://www.google.com/search?q=jakarta+mail+archiv

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:02:57 +0100 "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was dead against this when Tetsuya first raised the issue, > I'm still dead against this, and likely to remain so until someone > can explain to me why it would be better than what we currently have. 1. Current pag

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Michael Davey wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > >No, my original intention was derived from just this simple question: > >"Why doesn't each subprojects' left-side navi point to the *appropriate* > >section in mail2.html?" > > > > > I was dead against this when Tetsuya fir

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-21 Thread Erik Price
Henri Yandell wrote: That's all very well and good. But why do I have to read the rules to go look at the archives? That frustrates me every time I want to search the archives. Remember two simple hyperlinks: http://mail-archive.com/ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ I like the second one better

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:48:16 +0100 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) Michael Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > >No, my original intention was derived from just this simple question: > >"Why doesn't each subprojects'

RE: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Danny Angus
> I was dead against this when Tetsuya first raised the issue, I'm still dead against this, and likely to remain so until someone can explain to me why it would be better than what we currently have. What we have is (as far as I'm aware) the result of responding to the actions of people in respec

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Michael Davey
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: No, my original intention was derived from just this simple question: "Why doesn't each subprojects' left-side navi point to the *appropriate* section in mail2.html?" I was dead against this when Tetsuya first raised the issue, but I think I am coming round to Tetsuya's

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:57:10 -0400 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The nice thing about the current approach is that you can't get to see > the links w/o having to have read enough of the first page to >

RE: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Henri Yandell
> changing it unless you have a good reason to, if it ain't broke don't fix > it. > > d. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 20 July 2003 11:20 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: ma

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Presently they give up reading it and email me personally. -Andy On 7/20/03 11:57 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The nice thing about the current approach is that you can't get to see > the links w/o having to have read enough of the first page to > understand that you hav

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
The nice thing about the current approach is that you can't get to see the links w/o having to have read enough of the first page to understand that you have to click through to the next page. Otherwise, people will just skip down until they find what they want and then have missed what is some

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:33:20 -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the idea is to make people read the rules first, I wouldn't > > advise > > changing it unless you have a good reason to, if it ain't broke don't > > fix > > it. > Yes, that's what i was trying to hin

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Original Message- From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2003 11:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mail2.html -> mail.html Hi all, I am wondering how it might be if deleting jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html and putting all the contents to jakarta.apache.org/site/m

RE: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Danny Angus
0 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: mail2.html -> mail.html > > > > Hi all, > > I am wondering how it might be if deleting > jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html and putting all > the contents to jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html > > All the Apache TLPs (Top Level P

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:21:13 -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that each subprojects can indicate the direct/appropriate > > subscribe/unscribe section from each subprojects' pages. > > (Now: e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#tomcat > > future: e.g. htt

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 06:19 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi all, I am wondering how it might be if deleting jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html and putting all the contents to jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html All the Apache TLPs (Top Level Projects) do not separate the mail list explanation

mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Hi all, I am wondering how it might be if deleting jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html and putting all the contents to jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html All the Apache TLPs (Top Level Projects) do not separate the mail list explanation pages like jakarta, AFAICS. cf. http://ant.apache.org/mail.ht