Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I really think the time has come for a Java gui stuff foundry. (Unless everyone has moved to C# already ;-) ). -Andy On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 08:00, Santiago Gala wrote: > Paul Hammant wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > *Context* > > > > To remind you, I am a committer on Avalon and Commons with inters

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-06 Thread Santiago Gala
Paul Hammant wrote: > Folks, > > *Context* > > To remind you, I am a committer on Avalon and Commons with intersts in > anything that uses avalon-phoenix. Many months ago, I placed a long > worked on project called Jesktop inside jakarta-avalon-cornerstone's > CVS as a "demo" application for

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 20:12, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > On 2/4/02 8:00 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> > >> I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be > >> on the server... > >> > > > > whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which e

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 8:00 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be >> on the server... >> > > whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again. > >> Every microsoft server requires a GUI, for example

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be > on the server... > whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again. > Every microsoft server requires a GUI, for example :) > And a rapid fire reset button. > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr.

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Peter Donald
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:04, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > I see absolutely nothing there that would preclude GUI apps. > > It would seem to be slightly outside Jakarta's mission statement > > > > Jakarta is a Project of the Apache Software Foundation, charged with the > creation and maintenance of co

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 2/4/02 7:04 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 09:18, Sam Ruby wrote: >> Paul Hammant wrote: >>> >>> What rules do you want changed? >>> >>> 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF >>> attentions. >>> 2) If jakarta is not the

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 09:18, Sam Ruby wrote: > Paul Hammant wrote: > > > > What rules do you want changed? > > > > 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF > > attentions. > > 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools > > These rules don't

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Sam, >>What rules do you want changed? >> >>1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF >>attentions. >>2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools >> > >These rules don't seem to be present in my copy, can you point me to where >I can find them

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: > > What rules do you want changed? > > 1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF > attentions. > 2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools These rules don't seem to be present in my copy, can you point me to where I can

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Sam, >>I would love >>for Jesktop (impl) to remain at Apache as a top-level project, but a) it >>is not in scope and b) suffers from the wel known catch-22 of having no >>community yet. I hope the rules change in teh future so I can bring it >>back. >> > >What rules do you want changed? > 1) Apa

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: > > I would love > for Jesktop (impl) to remain at Apache as a top-level project, but a) it > is not in scope and b) suffers from the wel known catch-22 of having no > community yet. I hope the rules change in teh future so I can bring it > back. What rules do you want change

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Paul Hammant wrote: > > I'm proposing moving it off jakarta CVS and onto sourceforge, where > committers can be added at will without the faux-pas of access to > Avalon's huge codebase. The reason I am asking here is that it is > taking code away from Apache. It will still be Apache licensed and

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Ted, >Has there been a vote regarding this in Avalon? > It is in progress and so far in favour of a move. I dont think it will be vetoed as I was the only one that ever committed changes. It won't be useful until I complete the mime-manager-registry (for double click associations etc), so f

Re: Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Ted Husted
Has there been a vote regarding this in Avalon? Have all the prior authors of the packages been pinged? Will the existing codebase continue under the Apache License? What is the status of the current sourceforge projects? Could this be joined into one project there under the Apache License? It

Jesktop migrating from Jakarta to Sourceforge

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Hammant
Folks, *Context* To remind you, I am a committer on Avalon and Commons with intersts in anything that uses avalon-phoenix. Many months ago, I placed a long worked on project called Jesktop inside jakarta-avalon-cornerstone's CVS as a "demo" application for Avalon-Phoenix. I then did quite