Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat

I may not have interpreted your message correctly. If I inferred something
from it that you didn't intend to convey, please clarify.

Developing the Portage software itself is an entirely different process than
creating an ebuild: unless you're planning to contribute enhancement code to
Gentoolkit or Portage, they're just a set of tools for package development and
management. In order to create an ebuild, you need to know what package you 
/want/ to bring into the tree. Randomly submitting ebuilds that will shortly
thereafter be without a home is only a recipe for neglected packages.

  

I'm aware of the fact that building portage related software is
different from creating ebuilds. I'm interested in the openoffice
ebuilds, as well as scheme and some lisp related ebuilds.
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[gentoo-dev] Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
I saw the post by Joans and I decided to bring it up again.

About two months ago I came here wanting to become a developer, 
since I'm a PHP programmer I came to Stuart asking him to by my mentor and help me get to know things before opening a developer bug for me.

Lately stuart was pretty busy and I hardly ever hear from him, so I was wondering if someone else could be my mentor.

My name is Omer Cohen (omercnet on freenode), I'm 18 years old an I'm Israeli.

I'd really appriciate your kind response :)-- Thanks,Omer Cohenwww.omerc.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


[gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread aLeJ
 Adding my resume for those who are interested
 www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc

I don't think that posting your CV in doc format is a very good primer
step, isn't it?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
what's wrong with that? :/
On 6/5/05, aLeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adding my resume for those who are interested 
www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.docI don't think that posting your CV in doc format is a very good primerstep, isn't it?--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread aLeJ
El dom, 05-06-2005 a las 14:48 +0200, Omer Cohen escribi:
 what's wrong with that? :/
 
The url is not working and therefore, it's not a very good idea to use
close text formats so as you can use rtf, pdf, html... Make things easy
and don't complicate them (it's only my opinion)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Sunday 05 June 2005 13:48, Omer Cohen wrote:
 what's wrong with that? :/

 On 6/5/05, aLeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Adding my resume for those who are interested
   www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc
   http://www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.doc
 
  I don't think that posting your CV in doc format is a very good primer
  step, isn't it?
 
Well top posting kind of screws up the quoted conversation order a little :) 
Also posting your CV in MS Word format when we all develop and use Gentoo 
Linux is bad because that is a closed document format most would have trouble 
reading (were they to even try).

Using an open format readable by all - such as OpenOffice, (X)HTML, plain 
text, PDF, LaTeX or probably others I have not mentioned would be a much 
better way to do it.

I hope that clears it up for you. There are many guides on the net about 
netiquette, and why closed formats are bad for open communication.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Omer Cohen
I dropped the file since I thought there was somthing wrong with it, I'll put it back on right now as rtf.
www.omerc.net/O.Cohen-CV.en.rtf
enjoy
On 6/5/05, aLeJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
El dom, 05-06-2005 a las 14:48 +0200, Omer Cohen escribió: what's wrong with that? :/The url is not working and therefore, it's not a very good idea to use
close text formats so as you can use rtf, pdf, html... Make things easyand don't complicate them (it's only my opinion)--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for a dev-web mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Stuart Longland
Omer Cohen *top-posted*:
 what's wrong with that? :/

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

While, sure, OpenOffice _can_ read Word format, it's far from perfect at
doing so... and besides, we're in the business of promoting Open Source,
not pushing it to one side. ;-)

Also, can you please disable HTML email composition (might be termed
rich-text), not all of us here use HTML-capable email clients.  And try
not to top-post[1], it makes big threads very difficult to read when
posts appear in reverse cronological order.

Regards,
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Footnotes:
1. This is mentioned in RFC1855, which I have mirrored at
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[gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
I ever seen.
Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
pam_smb in net-misc and so on.

I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.

Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
obv.)..

Comments?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ian Leitch
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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
 I ever seen.
 Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
 pam_smb in net-misc and so on.
 
 I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
 implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.
 
 Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
 think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
 a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
 obv.)..
 
 Comments?

I made a bugfix release of epkgmove just the other day. It should now
move packages correctly, though you'll still need to check it's actions
like a hawk.

See http://dev.gentoo.org/~port001/DevTools/epkgmove/Testing/

Take a look at #84015 also.





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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
 I ever seen.
 Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
 pam_smb in net-misc and so on.
 
 I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
 implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.
 
 Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
 think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
 a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
 obv.)..
 
 Comments?

Diego:
This is not directed at you solely but expresses my general feelings on 
the topic of ever moving packages.

I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of 
time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. 
Invalidates binary package trees. It places stress on rsync servers. It
makes people have to rewrite rsync_exclude files. Makes it harder for 
scripts that interact with portage. And in the end really gains us next
to nothing. Please stop moving stuff around for cosmetic reasons. I see
far to many threads about changing stuff. No real valuable work ever
gets done. Stuff simply just gets shifted around somebody can think of a
new way to categorize existing data.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Ned Ludd wrote:

On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
  

Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
I ever seen.
Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
pam_smb in net-misc and so on.

I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.

Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
obv.)..

Comments?



Diego:
This is not directed at you solely but expresses my general feelings on 
the topic of ever moving packages.

I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of 
time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. 
Invalidates binary package trees. It places stress on rsync servers. It
makes people have to rewrite rsync_exclude files. Makes it harder for 
scripts that interact with portage. And in the end really gains us next
to nothing. Please stop moving stuff around for cosmetic reasons. I see
far to many threads about changing stuff. No real valuable work ever
gets done. Stuff simply just gets shifted around somebody can think of a
new way to categorize existing data.

  

I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place
within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user.
To give an example: mzscheme was placed in dev-lisp while portage had a
dev-scheme directory.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-06-05 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 21:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 May 2005 06:20 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  yes, it's finally that time ... after months of hearing us say 'we want to
  get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious
 
 last chance !
 
 can someone forward the original e-mail here to gentoo-user ?

The comments back from gentoo-user have been that it works fine.  One
was a glowing endorsement of all the changes.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
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foser wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
 
I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place
within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user.
To give an example: mzscheme was placed in dev-lisp while portage had a
dev-scheme directory.
 
 The current set-up isn't user-browseable anyway and hasn't been for a
 long time. I don't think the focus should be on correcting that in the
 tree, the user tools should be improved really.
 

Then why is their a browsable Categories link on the packages site?

http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/

I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things
less confusing for the end-user and developers alike and doesn't qualify
as a cosmetic reason. It *is* valuable work, IMHO.

That's not to say that the user tools shouldn't be improved where
possible, of course. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:50 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
 Solar,
   I realize you meant this as a general statement of opinion and not a 
 flame-baiter, but can you elaborate on:
 
 On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:37, Ned Ludd wrote:
  Invalidates binary package trees. 
 
 My (wrong?) understanding was that this is addressed when portage runs a 
 fixpackages (otherwise what's it doing to all those binary packages?). I ask 
 because its no secret that I'm working on a split up of dev-perl from the 
 500+ packages to a better organized, reasonable scenario where packages are 
 categorized based on, well, category :) rather than on the fact that they 
 contain some perl bits or module bits, stuff them in dev-perl. 

In my experience, fixpackages doesn't actually fix this sometimes. I've
had to phsyically delete the binary package and recreate it for the
category to be fixed. Sadly, I haven't had time to search for a bug on
it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 19:34 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 On Sunday 05 June 2005 17:37, Ned Ludd wrote:
  I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of
  time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody.
 Sorry but I don't agree with that, at least for the particular case of pam.
 The way it's now, makes my work hardware than it could be having them in 
 order. If I want to look for pam modules which needs to be fixed, I need to 
 go through a list with eix looking for them. Also two similar modules like 
 pam_ssh and pam_ssh_agent are respectively in app-crypt and sys-libs.
 And sorry, I don't think that everytime I need to find out what I need to 
 change or test I need to do some strange query like eix -r [^s]\?pam -o 
 ^pam.

14 files matching the pam prefix and 18 thing matching description.

app-admin/pam_dotfile (Mail related)
 pam module to allow password-storing in $HOME/dotfiles

app-crypt/pam_krb5 (Should of been put in sys-libs)
 Pam module for MIT Kerberos V

app-vim/pam-syntax (Seems logical)
 vim plugin: PAM configuration syntax highlighting

dev-perl/Authen-PAM (Seems logical)
 Interface to PAM library

kde-base/kcheckpass (Seems logical)
 KDE pam client that allows you to auth as a specified user without
 actually doing anything as that user.

kde-base/kdebase-pam (Seems logical)
 pam.d files used by several KDE components.

kde-base/secpolicy (Not sure)
 KDE: Display PAM security policies

net-libs/pam_ldap (Should of been sys-libs)
 PAM LDAP Module

net-mail/checkpassword-pam (Seems logical)
 checkpassword-compatible authentication program w/pam support

net-mail/poppassd_ceti (Seems logical)
 Password change daemon with PAM support

net-misc/pam_smb (Should of been sys-libs)
 The PAM SMB module, which allows authentication against an NT server.

net-www/mod_auth_pam (Seems logical)
 PAM authentication module for Apache

sys-apps/pam-login (Seems logical not a lib but a program)
 Based on the sources from util-linux, with added pam and shadow
features

sys-libs/pam_mysql (Seems logical)
 pam_mysql is a module for pam to authenticate users with mysql

sys-libs/pam_passwdqc (Seems logical)
 Password strength checking for PAM aware password changing programs

sys-libs/pam_pwdfile (Seems logical)
 PAM module for authenticating against passwd-like files.

sys-libs/pam_ssh_agent (Seems logical)
 PAM module that spawns a ssh-agent and adds identities using the
 password supplied at login

sys-libs/pam_usb (Seems logical)
 A PAM module that enables authentication using an USB-Storage device
 (such as an USB Pen) through DSA private/public keys.

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If you really feel you must invalidate everybody else binary trees 
and adding a workload on others for your gain then go for it.
But adding another category for what are clearly mostly system 
libraries does not make sense me in this case. 
So sorry I object to new category creation for PAM.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 13:25 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
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 foser wrote:
  On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
  
 I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place
 within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user.
 To give an example: mzscheme was placed in dev-lisp while portage had a
 dev-scheme directory.
  
  The current set-up isn't user-browseable anyway and hasn't been for a
  long time. I don't think the focus should be on correcting that in the
  tree, the user tools should be improved really.
  
 
 Then why is their a browsable Categories link on the packages site?
 
 http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/
 
 I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things
 less confusing for the end-user and developers alike and doesn't qualify
 as a cosmetic reason. It *is* valuable work, IMHO.

And how long before somebody proposes sys-auth?

*poof* we now reshuffle, but then we can do auth with ldap. So lets
move 
all the */ldap* related subjects under it sys-auth/... Then a month or 
six later comes along sys-ldap and it gets moved there. The logic will 
go full circle before long if we consistently keep shuffling packages
around.

All in all this is seriously the reason why ebuilds have a DESCRIPTION= 
and one of the reasons we have metadata.xml files.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Nathan L. Adams wrote:


Then why is their a browsable Categories link on the packages site?

http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/


Very good question , ..

I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things
less confusing for the end-user and developers alike and doesn't qualify
as a cosmetic reason. It *is* valuable work, IMHO.



I often use simple unix tools like ls grep etc .. to search for things
in my portage tree I find that this goes alot quicker then using the
user utilities , so I guess your right those need more attention then
the tree structure.

That's not to say that the user tools shouldn't be improved where
possible, of course. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 21:21 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 On Sunday 05 June 2005 21:03, Ned Ludd wrote:
  14 files matching the pam prefix and 18 thing matching description.
 You missed pam_ssh. And that's just an example.
 By the way... mind telling everyone here how did you do that search? I still 
 feel that looking for pam things in a *single* place is more useful than 
 looking in many different places.
I ran 
q search pam | grep -i -v SPAM
and it took 0.665 seconds. Quite a bit faster than having to cd 
$PORTDIR and cd foo ; cd .. ; cd bar ; cd ..

 If you feel that sys-auth is more logical, seems good to me. I haven't said 
 that it *must* be sys-pam.. was a proposal and as proposal is something I'd 
 like to discuss.

Not really.
We currently have about 138 categories and 19443 ebuilds in 9413 uniq
package names. That's something like 68 on average packages per category
with the addition 1 new category it only brings that 
average down to 67 things. I counted about ~20 PAM things in the entire 
tree which is less than one third of the global per package average 
category count.

  If you really feel you must invalidate everybody else binary trees
  and adding a workload on others for your gain then go for it.
 For my gain? Wait I was talking of me in this case but it's not just me.

Sure it is. You proposed it. You make reference of being the one that 
needs to fix things more than one time.

 I think everyone which is looking for pam modules would like to search 
 something like sys-pam, instead of looking here and there on the tree or 
 trying to use some strange black-magic queries.
 By the way, if you're looking for pam modules, your results are quite full of 
 cruft.

No strictly all PAM listed in the description. 
If something was missing from the description then that given ebuild 
should be fixed to reflect it.

  But adding another category for what are clearly mostly system
  libraries does not make sense me in this case.
 Currently sys-libs contains a very wide range of things, just a couple of 
 them 
 seems to be strictly related. As I said, if you feel sys-auth is better, 
 good. That would probably take also other things like courier-authlib for 
 example.


 But sys-libs doesn't seem the right place for me.

Please hold off on the creation of any new categories till robbat2 
and Azarah get a chance to comment, if they are for it I'll shutup.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
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Ned Ludd wrote:
 *poof* we now reshuffle, but then we can do auth with ldap. So lets
 move 
 all the */ldap* related subjects under it sys-auth/... Then a month or 
 six later comes along sys-ldap and it gets moved there. The logic will 
 go full circle before long if we consistently keep shuffling packages
 around.
 
 All in all this is seriously the reason why ebuilds have a DESCRIPTION= 
 and one of the reasons we have metadata.xml files.


Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically
organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do you
group by what the package is used for (email vs. game vs. web browser)
or by what it is built from (PERL stuff, Gnome apps, KDE apps). It
appears that currently its a mix. Is that documented anywhere?

I personally think the organization should be from an end-user
perspective as much as possible. Imagine for a moment that you are a
Genewbie (new Gentoo user). You have a new minimal installation and you
want to add some applications. How do you know what your choices are for
an email client, for instance? You could find most things here:

http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=mail-client

But that wouldn't let you know about kmail, a fairly important option.

If you were to do a search, you wouldn't get much either:

# emerge -s email
Searching...
[ Results for search key : email ]
[ Applications found : 5 ]

*  dev-perl/Email-Find
*  dev-perl/Email-Valid
*  net-mail/archivemail
*  net-mail/email
*  net-mail/sendEmail

So while the metadata.xml files do exist, I don't see how they are
_currently_ very useful to the end-users. Again, I think better
organization and improved tools are both worth while.

Nathan

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Nathan L. Adams
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Nathan L. Adams wrote:
 Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically
 organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing stuff. Do you
 group by what the package is used for (email vs. game vs. web browser)
 or by what it is built from (PERL stuff, Gnome apps, KDE apps). It
 appears that currently its a mix. Is that documented anywhere?
 
 I personally think the organization should be from an end-user
 perspective as much as possible. Imagine for a moment that you are a
 Genewbie (new Gentoo user). You have a new minimal installation and you
 want to add some applications. How do you know what your choices are for
 an email client, for instance? You could find most things here:
 
 http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=mail-client
 
 But that wouldn't let you know about kmail, a fairly important option.
 
 If you were to do a search, you wouldn't get much either:
 
 # emerge -s email
 Searching...
 [ Results for search key : email ]
 [ Applications found : 5 ]
 
 *  dev-perl/Email-Find
 *  dev-perl/Email-Valid
 *  net-mail/archivemail
 *  net-mail/email
 *  net-mail/sendEmail
 
 So while the metadata.xml files do exist, I don't see how they are
 _currently_ very useful to the end-users. Again, I think better
 organization and improved tools are both worth while.
 
 Nathan
 

Oooops. I just realized that I did a --search instead of a --searchdesc.
But I doubt most users even realize that --searchdesc even exists, so my
argument there still applies. ;)

Nathan
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 04:22:10PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
 Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
 I ever seen.
 Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
 pam_smb in net-misc and so on.
 
 I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
 implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.
I'd say sys-auth (standing for System authentication and
authorization), as then all packages dealing with NSS can be moved as
well:
sys-libs/libnss-mysql
sys-libs/libnss-pgsql
sys-libs/nss-db
sys-libs/nss-mysql
net-libs/nss_ldap

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Mike Doty
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 17:44 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote:
[snip]
 it is a laborious work, but it could be done.
 too bad we don't use subversion :(

I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Doty wrote:

I wonder if there is a svn interface to cvs, or if one could be written.

  

rename/move is a feature of the svn database, not of the svn interface.
also support symlinks, btw.


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[gentoo-dev] New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags:
  [+ C  ] radius (net-dialup/ppp):
  Enables RADIUS support

  [+ C  ] radius (net-misc/gnugk):
  Enables radius support
but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag.

any objections?



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[gentoo-dev] Re: New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-

Nothing wrong with having three packages with a local use flag.  Global use
flags are for use flags with global appeal/usage.  So far, to me it looks
like radius should stay a local use flag.

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Alin Nastac wrote:


at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags:
 [+ C  ] radius (net-dialup/ppp):
 Enables RADIUS support

 [+ C  ] radius (net-misc/gnugk):
 Enables radius support
but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag.

any objections?



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Alin Nastac
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote:

 Nothing wrong with having three packages with a local use flag. 
 Global use
 flags are for use flags with global appeal/usage.  So far, to me it looks
 like radius should stay a local use flag.

Enables RADIUS support isn't general enough for ya?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New global useflag proposal: radius

2005-06-05 Thread Meder Bakirov
On Monday 06 June 2005 10:18, Alin Nastac wrote:
 at the moment, there are 2 radius local useflags:
   [+ C  ] radius (net-dialup/ppp):
   Enables RADIUS support

   [+ C  ] radius (net-misc/gnugk):
   Enables radius support
 but seems that net-misc/ser should also have such flag.

 any objections?

I second this,

because, generally there may be more packages, that can be built with 
(optional) RADIUS support.

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