Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger napsal(a): On Saturday 24 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote: could bugzilla be changed so that the default search includes bugs in all status. instead of just open bugs. I know sometimes I'll miss closed bugs because I'll forget to do an advanced search. there is an open

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-25 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On 3/25/07, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm a native speaker [...] Yeah, right. May I remind you that you're a USian ? obligatory_smiley :o) /obligatory_smiley Denis. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Jakub Moc wrote: Hmmm, I'm not sure how much of an regression this is. AFAICT bugzilla always required to prefix the search with ALL if you want to search for resolved bugs as well. There's even a note about this directly on the homepage, below the search box. :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Everyone developer should downgrade back to gentoolkit-dev-0.2.6.2

2007-03-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: isnt this what package mask is for ? and/or just put out a quick -r1 that reverts echangelog -mike I did package.mask it, but not everyone syncs daily. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to the Social Contract? Not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 04:54 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 04:54 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Matthias Langer wrote: In my opinion, any project that has reasonable potential to improve Gentoo as a whole which doesnt apply here -mike pgpkZMxj5OVdW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:40:51 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Matthias Langer wrote: In my opinion, any project that has reasonable potential to improve Gentoo as a whole which doesnt apply here Did you not say that finding alternatives to Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-25 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:37:04 +0200 Denis Dupeyron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/25/07, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I'm a native speaker [...] Yeah, right. May I remind you that you're a USian ? obligatory_smiley :o) /obligatory_smiley Denis. Hi, May be a little OT, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:54:33 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont see why this is required ? ignoring the fact that the wording is way too vague to do anything but cause confusion and people to spout long winded rants, seems like useless nitpicking about an issue that doesnt

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Matthias Langer wrote: In my opinion, any project that has reasonable potential to improve Gentoo as a whole which doesnt apply here Did you not say that finding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont see why this is required ? ignoring the fact that the wording is way too vague to do anything but cause confusion and people to spout long winded rants, seems like useless nitpicking about an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:00:00 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont see why this is required ? ignoring the fact that the wording is way too vague to do anything but cause confusion and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:00:00 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont see why this is required ? ignoring the fact that the wording

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Dale
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:00:00 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont see why this is required ? ignoring the fact that the wording is way too vague

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: [Sun Mar 25 2007, 07:35:33AM CDT] Supposedly 80% of our stuff is hosted in one building, where would we find ourselves were this building to building to burn to the ground? Get flooded? Looking through http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/server-specs.xml,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 09:27 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 04:54 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Sunday 25 of March 2007 16:58:10 Mike Frysinger wrote: Did you not say that finding alternatives to Portage is one of Gentoo's priorities? no i did not, nor does that apply here not to put anything in your mouth, but I am a little confused:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Dale wrote: As a lowly user, I agree. Gentoo should not put all its eggs in one basket. Gentoo should use whichever basket could fit... -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Which of the following do you think is most likely to happen? * That Gentoo relicences everything under a proprietary licence GPL-3 you mean? * That Gentoo colludes with Lucifer Cough... * That Gentoo comes under pressure from a sponsor with an agenda Remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:35:21 +0200 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo should use whichever basket could fit... Just because there is a basket that can fit all our eggs should not prevent us from looking, where possible, for other baskets that would let us distribute them more evenly.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Which of the following do you think is most likely to happen? and which of the following do you think is most likely to happen ? * Ridiculous scenario #1 * Ridiculous scenario #2 * Spin of recent events to look like a conspiracy obviously the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ANN: PMS public release

2007-03-25 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
Looks like a good job to me. -- Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszyński -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:27:11 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Invalid (to me) implies a judgement of the work of the submitter, while NOTABUG (to me) implies more a simple variance of opinion, recognizing the other viewpoint as possibly valid (not invalid), but simply choosing a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: On Sunday 25 of March 2007 16:58:10 Mike Frysinger wrote: Did you not say that finding alternatives to Portage is one of Gentoo's priorities? no i did not, nor does that apply here not to put anything in your mouth, but I am a little confused:

[gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:46:36 +0100: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:40:51 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Matthias Langer wrote: In my opinion, any project that has reasonable

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:16:13 -0400: well, while we're protecting Gentoo from hypothetical situations that dont exist now but could in the future, we should add a clause that bans collusion with Lucifer as that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Sunday 25 of March 2007 17:54:24 Andrew Gaffney wrote: Support for an alternative package manager != language bindings for said package manager :P heh, I just wanted a clarification of the Council standpoint in the matter of finding alternatives to portage, which became quite vague after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
I'd like to ask what are the negative side-effects of adding such paragraph. Are there any true negative side-effects to a specification like that? A different topic is the way the paragraph is written. If we don't like how it is written, we can change it and problem solved. To be honest,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: On Sunday 25 of March 2007 17:54:24 Andrew Gaffney wrote: Support for an alternative package manager != language bindings for said package manager :P heh, I just wanted a clarification of the Council standpoint in the matter of finding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
I'd like to ask what are the negative side-effects of adding such paragraph. Are there any true negative side-effects to a specification like that? A different topic is the way the paragraph is written. If we don't like how it is written, we can change it and problem solved. To be honest,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: I'd like to ask what are the negative side-effects of adding such paragraph. Are there any true negative side-effects to a specification like that? A different topic is the way the paragraph is written. If we don't like how it is written, we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:27:11 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do others think of NULL or VOID vs. NOTABUG vs. INVALID? I'd object against NULL or VOID, they don't make much sense to me. NOTABUG seems to be the best fit as it's very specific and doesn't leave much room for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Michael Krelin
the werent the same question nor were they the same answer They weren't the same, but the second answer was definitely wrong: So is alternative package manager support something that's considered important and a priority by the Council? yes Did you not say that finding alternatives to

[gentoo-dev] Re: ANN: PMS public release

2007-03-25 Thread Steve Long
Piotr Jaroszy?ski wrote: Looks like a good job to me. ++ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 3/25/07, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest, protecting ourselves from things that now seem improbable, isn't such a bad idea. and where exactly do you stop ? -mike That's a good question, but I am not appropriate to answer to that yet. :) -- Ioannis Aslanidis

[gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: A segment of an already minor segment (certainly currently, tho that /may/ eventually change), not likely to be something that can reasonably be characterized as benefiting Gentoo as a whole, at least in the near to medium term, and beyond that, well, things remain up for grabs.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: As one who was offended when one of my first bugs got INVALIDated... I know the feeling, mate :) NOTABUG would have been better. It may suffer some of the same issues, but is better, and at least here, wouldn't have the discouraging connotations due to the minor variation in

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Steve Long
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to the Social Contract?

[gentoo-dev] 2.6.20 to go stable in 1-2 weeks

2007-03-25 Thread Daniel Drake
I'm planning to request the latest revision of gentoo-sources-2.6.20 go stable on x86 and amd64 in 1-2 weeks from now. Other arches will probably follow soon after. There are still a few new bugs with external modules: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163825 I've commented on every one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to the Social Contract?

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.20 to go stable in 1-2 weeks

2007-03-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Daniel Drake kirjoitti: I'm planning to request the latest revision of gentoo-sources-2.6.20 go stable on x86 and amd64 in 1-2 weeks from now. Other arches will probably follow soon after. There are still a few new bugs with external modules: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163825

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.20 to go stable in 1-2 weeks

2007-03-25 Thread Warwick Bruce Chapman
Daniel Drake wrote: I'm planning to request the latest revision of gentoo-sources-2.6.20 go stable on x86 and amd64 in 1-2 weeks from now. Other arches will probably follow soon after. There are still a few new bugs with external modules: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163825 I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-25 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:53:51 +0300 Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be a little OT, but just two of four ancient-sayings: 1.Never accept things personaly (everyone is acting on his own motives); 2.Try not to make assumptions (just ask questions, till you get it). Clearly (from above,

[gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, virtual/x11 has been deprecated for some time and now that all packages that only use it have been removed it is time to mask and remove it. I have put it in package.mask now - please fix your overlays in case you still use virtual/x11 somewhere. It will be removed in 30 days as per the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I know I've seen many instances where the word INVALID has got peoples hackles up, [...] This is the same issue I have with NOTABUG - it's like saying, you're wrong, shouldn't have raised the report, just perhaps not as in-your-face as INVALID. Precisely. NOTABUG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather than any outside party, how about the following addition to

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.20 to go stable in 1-2 weeks

2007-03-25 Thread Daniel Drake
Warwick Bruce Chapman wrote: Will you be marking linux-headers-2.6.19 stable as well? I really think http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160381 needs some serious attention. linux-headers isnt anything to do with me or the kernel herd. I can't comment on when it will go stable. Daniel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-25 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/03/25, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely. NOTABUG sounds less harsh than INVALID (for some just a little, for others a lot), it is less likely to irk people, and it is also used elsewhere, so why not use it instead? Not that i care that much, but imho INVALID

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: It looks like our social contract doesn't prohibit Gentoo from being dependent upon a single sponsor or corporation. In the interests of keeping Gentoo run by the developers rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the Gentoo Foundation web site and see Chapter 2 Section 5 And how exactly does this help us in the event of say the OSL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:59:41 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the Gentoo Foundation web site and see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
Duncan wrote: A segment of an already minor segment (certainly currently, tho that /may/ eventually change), not likely to be something that can reasonably be characterized as benefiting Gentoo as a whole, at least in the near to medium term, and beyond that, well, things remain up for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 25 March 2007, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 16:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the Gentoo Foundation web

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, virtual/x11 has been deprecated for some time and now that all packages that

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-03-25 23h59 UTC

2007-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-03-25 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-portage/emool 2007-03-19 10:17:22 blubb www-client/mozilla 2007-03-19 10:25:35 armin76

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for NX components split ebuilds

2007-03-25 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
Hi, the following packages have been superseded by/merged into net-misc/nx, the last ebuild in portage that used them (nxserver-freenx-0.5.0) was removed 4 months ago: net-misc/nxcomp net-misc/nxesd net-misc/nxproxy net-misc/nxssh net-misc/nx-x11 net-misc/nx-x11-bin They are now package.masked,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread arfrever
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. These not numerous packages still using virtual/x11 can be fixed after masking it. Almost nobody uses them. Masking

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:45:38 +0200 arfrever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. These not numerous packages still using

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:45:38 +0200 arfrever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisaÅ#8218;: I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. These not numerous packages still using

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. It doesn't seem to build. FXColorSelector.cpp: In member function 'long int FX::FXColorSelector::onUpdAlphaText(FX::FXObject*, FX::FXSelector,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Alec Warner wrote: [Sun Mar 25 2007, 09:08:01PM CDT] It's acceptable to me. I'd rather see us make progress than postpone changes for months while devs bicker about changes to be made. That would not be the case if say, people had the balls to just fix things in the tree. However we have

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Well, if it's reached the take drastic action stage (which, let's face it, it has at this point), why not go and fix the tree? It's a better solution than breaking it, and anyone who moans now isn't going to get any sympathy from anyone. I'm fixing it now. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 03:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Well, if it's reached the take drastic action stage (which, let's face it, it has at this point), why not go and fix the tree? It's a better solution than breaking it, and anyone who moans now isn't going to get any sympathy from

[gentoo-dev] Re: [last rites] virtual/x11

2007-03-25 Thread Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill wrote: Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: I commented this out of package.mask. x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r2 still uses it. Need to fix that up before masking it. I'll have a look. Okay, x11-libs/fox-1.2.6-r3 was added to the tree which fixed the virtual/x11 and GCC 4.1 compile

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Atom matching behavior

2007-03-25 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On 2007/03/25, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =foo/bar-1.2.* has never been valid and still isnt valid in current portage ... i dont see a reason to force it in for EAPI=0 considering we've gotten by so far without it being a big deal Sure. I've probably not been clear, i was not

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Atom matching behavior

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: My suggestion is only about dropping the substring-match semantics, to replace it with something more restrictive, and that, it's doable for EAPI=0 if decided now. i'd be on the fence about that ... i feel like some of your examples

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Atom matching behavior

2007-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 25 March 2007, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On 2007/03/25, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =app-dicts/aspell-en-0.5* --- app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.0 app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.1 you'd have to add more atoms to match 0.51.0, 0.52.1, 0.53.3, etc... Yes and